www.advantagegear.com/index.php

found this site and thought that I should spread the word about it here. most of the clothing is in navy blue but some are available in black.
  • Re: fire resistant clothing for safetys

    Mon, May 5, 2008 - 12:05 PM
    That's pretty expensive for stuff that isn't significantly better fire protection than say Dickie's work pants and a heavy cotton long sleeve t-shirt. If you want spot protection (sleeves/gloves/hood), I suggest Northern Safety (northernsafety.com), which is WAY cheaper, and only has black and uglyyellow.

    If you were to, say, have a gigantic fuel dump fire, it might make a difference... but then it'd be the insulated ones (ie the ones for 299) that would help.
    • Re: fire resistant clothing for safetys

      Tue, May 6, 2008 - 6:48 AM
      I'd agree with you that this stuff is probably be a bit overboard for most of us (unless you want to actually walk through a big fire), and that heavy cotton is the most practical. But I wanted to share this at least for the sake of having the paranoid and overly cautious extreme represented.
      • Re: fire resistant clothing for safetys

        Tue, May 6, 2008 - 11:39 PM
        On a related note, it's not always whether Dickies or whatnot may offer protection almost-as-good, but we find a good deal of people want permanently treated fire resistant gear, especially something that is ARC rated. With more fire departments becoming more conservative, some are thrilled to see that performers are using rated clothing. Case in point, our local fire department is impressed to see ARC rated casual gear (such as t-shirts and turtlenecks).

        Will such clothing help you any more than Dickies if you get soaked in fuel and set alight? Probably not. But it is nice for big fire, safeties, and those times when you get tangled in a normally-unprotected spot. The bonus of being able to tell the FD that you are using ARC rated clothing (and other fire groups aren't) may make a difference to your reputation. Is an amateur going to benefit as much? Maybe not, in which case the spot protection Sam brings up makes sense.

        Examples of shirts and other rated gear:
        www.flammaaeterna.com/c-25-apparel.aspx

        Matthew
        Flamma Aeterna

        I wavered a tiny bit on responding to this, but ultimately thought I would. After a lot of our own research we ended up carrying a good line of fire-resistant clothing (specifically types of clothing that fire-dancers and safeties wear). Personal experience with what I have used has brought me to the belief that rated gear generally outperforms anything we normally wear. Granted, if something soaks up fuel and gets set on fire, then it won't matter either way, but the permanent fire resistance treatments I have found to be worth it, especially for big fire and safeties.
        • Re: fire resistant clothing for safetys

          Wed, May 7, 2008 - 10:15 AM
          That's weird, I've never heard of ARC ratings....
          • Re: fire resistant clothing for safetys

            Thu, May 8, 2008 - 8:29 AM
            Some companies that have people who are around electricity a lot have to comply with NFPA 70E. NFPA 70E deals (almost) completely with arc flashes, but it has charts on what amounts of energy contitute what level of hazard, and what level of ARC protection is required (if you have to comply) for a given hazard.

            Since Calories of incident energy are Calories of incident energy, it can be nice to know (and demonstrate) what you are wearing meets or exceeds the energy/heat you are exposed to.

            Matthew
            Flamma Aeterma

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