Is a Giant Mosque at Ground Zero Justified?

topic posted Mon, July 5, 2010 - 12:52 PM by  Rocky
Is a Giant Mosque at Ground Zero Justified?

Ground Zero Mosque Overwhelmingly Approved By NYC Community Board: 'It's A Seed Of Peace'

There are already 200 mosques in New York. One at ground zero titled "The Cordoba House" would only represent CONQUEST to Muslims around the world.

How stupid can people be?


Ground Zero Mosque: A Muslim View: Stop This Imam Now

"In plainer English, forget the separation of church and state: Abdul Rauf's goal is the imposition of Sharia law - in every country -- even democratic ones like the U.S.

"Imam Rauf is dreaming of constructing this mosque with the ultimate goal of Islamizing America."


No Mosque at Ground Zero - video by Pat Condell

Stop the stealth jihad:

Protest rally against the Islamic supremacist mosque June 6th

Ground Zero mosque protest still scheduled

A mosque at Ground Zero equals victory

New Mosque named "Cordoba House" See Why

One of the Cordoba Initiative's "Muslim leaders of tomorrow"

Ground Zero mosque team lacking funds amid bookkeeping chaos

A sneak preview of the Ground Zero mega-mosque

How to stop the Ground Zero mega-mosque

Overtolerance could pave the way for sharia in America

Saudi billionaire boasts of manipulating Fox news coverage

Kagan helped shield Saudis from 9/11 lawsuits



"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."

- Omar M. Ahmad, founder of Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)

Dhimwit: "A non-Muslim member of a free society that abets the stated cause of Islamic domination with remarkable gullibility. A dhimwit is always quick to extend sympathy to the very enemy that would take away his or her own freedom (or life) if given the opportunity."

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  • Re: Is a Giant Mosque at Ground Zero Justified?

    Thu, July 22, 2010 - 10:39 AM
    Terms one will need to get familiar with:

    Dhimmitude, Dhimmi, Dhimwit / Quisling, Jizya

    * Dhimmitude:

    "The term dhimmitude comes from the Arabic word "dhimmi." It refers to subjugated, non-Muslim individuals or people that accept the restrictive and humiliating subordination to an ascendant Islamic power to avoid enslavement or death."

    -- "Eurabia: The Euro-Arab Axis" by Bat Ye'or (page 9)

    "The concept of "dhimmitude" (a term coined by Bachir Gemayel) was introduced into Western discourse by the writer Bat Ye'or in a French-language article published in the Italian journal La Rassegna mensile di Israel in 1983. The term was used in English as early as 1985 in a book review by Prof. James E. Biechler in the Journal of Ecumenical Studies, in which he praised Ye'or's work, commenting that "Perhaps the single most significant contribution of the author is her definition and development of the concept of 'dhimmitude'". Ye'or further popularised the term in her books The Decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam. From Jihad to Dhimmitude. Seventh-Twentieth Century and the 2003 followup Islam and Dhimmitude: Where Civilizations Collide After the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the term became far more widely used, particularly in discussions about Islamism and the Islamization of the West.

    Bat Ye'or defined dhimmitude as the condition and experience of those who are subject to dhimma, and thus not synonymous to, but rather a subset of the dhimma phenomenon.

    It may be simply a replacement for the relatively little known (compared to dhimmi) noun dhimma, coined to carry the same meaning. This has already widely happened in French usage where, as in English, "-tude" is a productive suffix.

    A more recent pejorative usage variant of "dhimmi" and "dhimmitude" divorces the words from the historical context of jihad and applies them to situations where non-Muslims in the West are championing Islamic causes above others. "Dhimmi" is treated as analogous to "Quisling" within this context".

    "Dhimmitude is the status that Islamic law, the Sharia, mandates for non-Muslims, primarily Jews and Christians. Dhimmis, "protected people," are free to practice their religion in a Sharia regime, but are made subject to a number of humiliating regulations designed to enforce the Qur'an's command that they "feel themselves subdued" (Sura 9:29)."

    "This denial of equality of rights and dignity remains part of the Sharia, and, as such, is part of the law that global jihadists are laboring to impose everywhere, ultimately on the entire human race.

    The dhimmi attitude of chastened subservience has entered into Western academic study of Islam, and from there into journalism, textbooks, and the popular discourse. One must not point out the depredations of jihad and dhimmitude; to do so would offend the multiculturalist ethos that prevails everywhere today."

    * Dhimmi:

    Dhimmi: "An Islamic term that refers to a subjugated non-Muslim person living in a Muslim society. Second-class status is confirmed by the legal system and dhimmis do not share the rights of their Muslim rulers."

    "a non-Muslim subject of a state governed in accordance with sharia law"

    * Quisling:

    "a person who betrays his or her own country by aiding an invading enemy, often serving later in a puppet government"

    "Quisling, after Norwegian politician Vidkun Quisling, who assisted Nazi Germany to conquer his own country, is a term used to describe traitors and collaborationists. It was most commonly used for fascist political parties and military and paramilitary forces in occupied Allied countries which collaborated with Axis occupiers in World War II, as well as for their members and other collaborators.

    * Dhimwit:

    "A non-Muslim member of a free society that abets the stated cause of Islamic domination with remarkable gullibility. A dhimwit is always quick to extend sympathy to the very enemy that would take away his or her own freedom (or life) if given the opportunity."

    * Jizya: Qur'an 9:29 = non-Muslim tax:

    "Fight against those who do not believe in the last day and do not consider permissible that which God and His messenger make impermissible and do not and do not subscribe to the religion of truth from among the people of the truth until they pay the jizya out of hand while they are subjected."
  • No Mosque at Ground Zero

    "Message from Frank Gaffney: The Center for Security Policy today unveiled a powerful 1-minute video opposing the construction of a 13-story, $100 million mega-mosque near the hallowed ground of the World Trade Center. The Twin Towers were destroyed on 9/11 by adherents to the barbaric, supremacist and totalitarian program authoritative Islam calls "Shariah." And the imam who is promoting this mosque has publicly declared that he seeks to "bring Shariah to America."

    As the ad makes clear, Shariah's followers have long built mosques on the most sacred sites of those they have conquered -- for example, on Jerusalem's Temple Mount, at Constantinople/Istanbul's St. Sophia Basilica and in Cordoba, Spain, the capital of the occupying Moors' Muslim kingdom.

    A growing chorus of New Yorkers and other Americans -- including, notably, former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin -- have expressed outrage at the prospect of a similar, permanent beachhead for Shariah being use to defile Ground Zero, and symbolize America's defeat at the hands of her enemies. We say, "No Mosque at Ground Zero."

  • Anti-Defamation League Opposes GZ mosque

    New York, NY, July 28, 2010 ... The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today issued the following statement regarding the proposed Islamic Center near Ground Zero in Manhattan:

    "We regard freedom of religion as a cornerstone of the American democracy, and that freedom must include the right of all Americans - Christian, Jewish, Muslim, and other faiths - to build community centers and houses of worship.

    We categorically reject appeals to bigotry on the basis of religion, and condemn those whose opposition to this proposed Islamic Center is a manifestation of such bigotry.

    However, there are understandably strong passions and keen sensitivities surrounding the World Trade Center site. We are ever mindful of the tragedy which befell our nation there, the pain we all still feel - and especially the anguish of the families and friends of those who were killed on September 11, 2001.

    The controversy which has emerged regarding the building of an Islamic Center at this location is counterproductive to the healing process. Therefore, under these unique circumstances, we believe the City of New York would be better served if an alternative location could be found.

    In recommending that a different location be found for the Islamic Center, we are mindful that some legitimate questions have been raised about who is providing the funding to build it, and what connections, if any, its leaders might have with groups whose ideologies stand in contradiction to our shared values. These questions deserve a response, and we hope those backing the project will be transparent and forthcoming. But regardless of how they respond, the issue at stake is a broader one.

    Proponents of the Islamic Center may have every right to build at this site, and may even have chosen the site to send a positive message about Islam. The bigotry some have expressed in attacking them is unfair, and wrong. But ultimately this is not a question of rights, but a question of what is right. In our judgment, building an Islamic Center in the shadow of the World Trade Center will cause some victims more pain - unnecessarily - and that is not right. "

    Statement On Islamic Community Center Near Ground Zero

    Anti-Defamation League Comes Out Against Ground Zero Mosque

    Anti-Defamation League comes out against proposed mosque, Islamic center near ground zero

    - Comments:

    "A mosque at ground zero is just poor taste, and I agree with the ADL, a mosque at that location will only continue to cause problems, not repair or unite anyone. "

    "How about we keep Ground Zero entirely religion-free. After all, a macro view of the situation shows that it was religious intolerance and religious violence that occurred there that day. Let's not parse and split hairs about which one... they are all to blame."

    Manhattan, NY - Majority Oppose Ground Zero Mosque

    “I don’t want a mosque on the grave of my son and on the grave of everybody else who was murdered on that day”


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