Just wanted to take the sarcasm down one notch to tell you (James) and anyone else - that at one time I too was one who would piggy back other's ideas until someone told me what I've told you here. They asked these same questions and instead of aiming at them as you have with me, I chose to listen. And a wonderful thing happened - I started DOING things. Hmmm... half-baked - yup. Some of them - which is the ONLY way people do things my dear. The only way. All great artists, inventors, or anything else jumped in and did stuff. They failed MISERABLY and then they succeeded. And when you are saying things like "Half baked ideas cause more trouble than gain" or similar things - take a good close look inside - I guarantee you'll find that it's fear. And when you see it you can drop it. And when you drop it, YOUR voice can also come out and give all it's messy weird and wonderful ideas to the world.

Sorry it has to come to a head like this, but this world really makes us terrified of our own shadows and some of us have to get mad before we get real. See you on the other side.

The only fear around here is by people like you who cannot face the truth and have to spout a lot of rhetoric. Don't try to whitewash your commentary, but then I see from your other posts elsewhere that you seem to go out of your way to pick fights anyway.

And don't try to come off with that posturing BS about being a "doer" and others who disagree with you not doing anything, that is a load of bull too.

What kills most ideas, more than anything else, not fear, but ego. Ego of people like you who are so arrogant that they think their way is the only way and that no one else has a clue about what they are doing, yet fallen fruit is hardly a new or original idea and I am sure Jewel knows that too and is fine with it, yet you seem clueless about it. Whose idea it is or how original it is is meaningless as long as you are doing something worthwhile.

Anyone as insecure as you mention and lacking in conviction is going to fall on their face the first time they encounter any resistence, and you can bet there will be resistence, especially in urban areas where people have been fined,cited, arrested and sued for taking things from other peoples land or the public right of way. A man in florida went to jail for feeding such things to the homeless.

Anyone who thinks their idea cannot and should not be improved upon, especially in the early stages when it costs nothing, is a complete egotistical moron.

Your ego keeps you from accepting that someone might be offering useful input and who may have actually done and been doing what the people are talking about but you are too arrogant to consider that option. Your comments on other peoples intentions are rude, assinine and arrogant and foolishly assumptive, in fact it reflects the typical tactic of trying to project those things onto other people.

I'll give you a clue, last year, my people gathered and donated to the local food banks, approximately 1 ton of food per week by working with local farmers who had extra crops or who had second growth in their fields they were not going to pick. I also worked at those food banks and went to local stores to round up unused or unwanted food. And that is not the only such project we were successful at in the last few years in this area.

Tell me, how many acres of damaged land have you reclaimed? How many acres of wetlands have you preserved? How many artificial wetlands have you constructed to control pollution? How much time and money have you donated to any form of meaningful cause?

How many real non-profit organizations do you actually work with or serve on the board for?

Ever worked with 4 H, scouts, project second harvest, Big Brothers and Sisters, or perhaps the American Cancer Society?

I donated thousands of dollars last year to charitable efforts including several thousands of hours of my time and work and at least as much in additional personal expenses.

If I take the time to offer contributing advice to a friend with similar interests it is none of your business.

You know nothing about things I have done or am doing and that is another arrogant assumption on your part.

Maybe I am tired of knee jerk know it all loudmouths that show up here on tribe so much.

Maybe I am tired of all the hippy wannabee liars.

Maybe I am fed up with twits that have to question every motivation when people try to do something nice for others and run everything into the ground. People like you are why a lot of people get fed up with trying to support good ideas.

I have seen people like you kill of far more good ideas and efforts than constructive commentary ever will. I saw a person fitting your exact pattern of behavior cost a cat shelter I worked with a pair of fully equiped computers and monitors.

Maybe I don't like people who question my integrity when I try to offer help to someone I considered a friend long before you show up with that silly profile picture.

You can wager what ever you want to and you will still be wrong, and don't try the "I don't play that way BS" either since you just said it. Yeah, that's real mature.

No you don't tell people to shut up, you just go on and on trying to imply that people who offer useful advice are trying to sink the effort.

So why are you so paranoid and inflamatory? I see it is not just here, and you even say you go looking for fights in your profile. So you pick a tribe, try to suck up to some people then decide to incite flames from someone else. That's a real emotionally stable and mature pattern.

OOO, "those of us on the creative side", nice attempt to instill an us against them mentality, too bad you are wrong again, so that line of bull won't fly either. I won't demean my efforts by listing them for the likes of you.

Nobody has perfect and fully formed ideas at the start, that statement and implication is also idiotic.

So, have you ever done anything useful or do you just go around trying suck up and hang on other peoples coat tails?

Don't bother replying to me unless you have something mature and useful to say. I've already dealt with too many of the type you are coming across as.