Jeesh, its everywhere, isn't it?
I am taking a sustainable living workshop this weekend. I am pretty excited about it. I am fairly conscientious about the world around me, but I always know there is room for improvement!
One of the things that this workshop is going to tackle is the plastic issue! My first step, before even taking the workshop, is moving to Kleen Kanteen bottles. A friend of mine owns punkin butt ( www.punkinbutt.com ) and has been able to get whole sale items for a local board we're on here in the Portland area. Years ago I thought I was doing good by switching to Nalgeen bottles for our water. Not that Nalgeen is bad, but I have always thought there must be something better.
Now I want to know how to change to non-plastic containers to store left over foods in and the like.
And what about baby toys? So many of them are plastic. I know there are wooden ones and cloth out there, but damn, they seem so expensive!
So how about it, does anyone here have suggestions, ideas, experiences they would like to share?
I am taking a sustainable living workshop this weekend. I am pretty excited about it. I am fairly conscientious about the world around me, but I always know there is room for improvement!
One of the things that this workshop is going to tackle is the plastic issue! My first step, before even taking the workshop, is moving to Kleen Kanteen bottles. A friend of mine owns punkin butt ( www.punkinbutt.com ) and has been able to get whole sale items for a local board we're on here in the Portland area. Years ago I thought I was doing good by switching to Nalgeen bottles for our water. Not that Nalgeen is bad, but I have always thought there must be something better.
Now I want to know how to change to non-plastic containers to store left over foods in and the like.
And what about baby toys? So many of them are plastic. I know there are wooden ones and cloth out there, but damn, they seem so expensive!
So how about it, does anyone here have suggestions, ideas, experiences they would like to share?
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Wed, February 6, 2008 - 1:28 AMactually, nalgene IS bad. they manufacture restraints for animal testing labs.
this is a subject that has been very much on my mind recently. i am a new avon rep & the waste associated with small containers of makeup, skin cream, lotions & cleansers really bothers me, but i don't know what to do about it. i'm just adding to the problem by perpetuating it.
i am seriously considering tossing all of our non-wooden toys & i'm compiling a list of my favorite natural toy shops online. i'm putting the word out to friends & family that plastic toys are no longer welcome in our home. it's obvious that wooden toys are more expensive, but look at it this way, your family will buy only one, maybe 2 or 3 wood toys per holiday because they are pricey & that automatically cuts down on consumerism, plus wooden toys tend to be high-quality, so they will last through your children & maybe even their children & grandchildren. they're instant heirlooms!
that's my $.50 worth. -
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Thu, February 7, 2008 - 3:49 PMThis one is tricky for me but one I think about a lot, too. I sometimes think of getting rid of all Sam's plastic toys, but it doesn't seem fair for me to get rid of his and keep mine. Before I put that rule on him, seems like I'd have to apply it to myself. And then I'd have to get rid of my computer, my camera, my phone, my cd's, my dvd's, my ink pens, and so on. I often think getting rid of those things might do my family a world of good, but right now my computer is my lifeline to the world via these and other discussion groups while I live in the middle of nowhere. I think that with plastics, as with all things, you can find balance, it's just really hard in this consumer, throwaway culture.
Sam has plastic toys, all gifts or from the thrift store except for the vacuum I bought him for Christmas because I knew how much he'd love it. I went to your Avon site, Idra, and picked out that little ice cream maker (but then got too sick to deal with ordering) but I'd bet it's made of plastic. It would be better to get a wooden one, but I wanted to support your new endeavor. I get really confused about these things sometimes, mostly all gray area to me!
Sometimes to walk in loving kindness is far from a clearly worn path, no? -
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Thu, February 7, 2008 - 11:07 PMi am absolutely haunted by waste. i take packaging into consideration when i buy something. sometimes that is the deciding factor for me not to buy it!
it's hard for me to just sell sell sell when i know that most of the packaging will end up in a landfill. luckily, i'm not planning on this as a long-term endeavor.
most recently, i am in the market for a new yoga ball. however, it seems they are made of pvc. now, i'm on the hunt for non-pvc varieties. *sigh*
this planet is going to shake us off like a wet dog with fleas... and rightly so. -
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Fri, February 8, 2008 - 10:09 AM<this planet is going to shake us off like a wet dog with fleas... and rightly so.>
Yeah, I hear that! Or...if it is not due to extreme weather or flash ice age, it will be from all the terminal maladies posed to us from using products in the plastics! : / -
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Sat, April 5, 2008 - 9:36 PMI went on a binge at the beginning of the year ridding our house of plastic toys, plastic dishes, plastic sippy cups, plastic 5 gallon water containers, ect.
I bought a Klean Kanteen sippy cup and one for me and my husband.
we are very much trying to reduce our family's need/reliance on plastic.
I cringe at the thought of our water being stored in plastic. My recent endevour is to get our local springs, highbridge, to deliver their spring water in their glass containers. Meaning, this water goes straight from the spring to the glass jar. Maybe it's a little more expensive but I think it is worth it for our health.
As far as toys we got rid of all the plastic sing songy crap. I did keep the fridge and farm phonice because Solomon has learned so much from them. Basically, we have wooden building blocks my husband made, a wagon, dolls, puzzles, books and balls.
I ordered a book on how to make knit toys. I recently received it in the mail. There are patterns for balls, dolls, monkeys, blocks, ect. I am into this idea.
We are in the process of a move and when we unpack I am sure I will be giving more of his toys to the goodwill.
Oh, and as far as food storage containers, I have been buying glass containers and pyrex to store/freeze food.
Off topic here, but I recently also switched our family over to recycled toilet paper, which reduces our need to cut down more trees for ass wipe! Would it be gross to switch us over to cloth wipe? I use it for Solomon. I am seriously thinking about it. -
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Sun, April 6, 2008 - 1:23 PMoh you are an inspiration. reading this puts wind in my sails to do the same thing. i love the idea of ridding our home of all the plastic nonsense, but where will it go? i'm not even sure if it's recyclable & if it is, where can i take it? i actually want to recycle it, not just pass it on to someone else who might throw it away when they're done. not everyone is as concienscious as we are. -
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 4:43 PMI recycled everything that I could but unfortunately some were not recyclable so I did donate them to the Goodwill. I figure those that really want it can have it at a cheap price.
On, a different note, someone told me that the "energy effecient" light bulbs gave mercury in them. I must read about this. -
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 10:16 PMIf you're looking for great hand made toys at reasonable prices, check out Etsy. I know some of you actually have your own Etsy shops, but just in case someone hasn't heard of it. I spend hours just looking at all the beautiful creative things people make. I LOVE Etsy. Just do a search for whatever kind of toy you want, you can search by material or description, you can even search for Waldorf inspired toys, which I love, even though I'm not a big fan of Waldorf overall. Because it's cheap to list and there's no overhead, the items are less than you'd pay in an upscale shop. Can't say enough good about it.
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