Fear of Success

topic posted Fri, December 2, 2005 - 7:47 AM by  gypsygirllll

When a dream is so close to being realized why would one be afraid of achieving the dream?
How do you get past the fear of incompetence to truly achieve what your destiny insists that you achieve?
Just some lite questions to ponder.
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gypsygirllll
Philadelphia
  • Re: Fear of Success

    Fri, December 2, 2005 - 4:58 PM
    About the first question, I think it might be a fear of change. Because if you achieve your dream, your life has to change and then what? And if everything you wanted is realized and it turns out not to be what you want, then what? So I think fear is part of it. I also think some people won't let themselves be happy. Maybe somewhere inside they don't think they deserve it. Maybe they're afraid to be happy because then you have everything to lose. (There's that Fear again. Sneaky bastard.)
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      Sat, December 3, 2005 - 1:41 PM
      happyness tends to be fleeting. when we have what we desire we have something worth holding onto and to be scared of loosing. misery is easier, not so scary to have taken away. and yes, the grass ever greener syndrome is a bitch. oft true....so what then?
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        Mon, December 5, 2005 - 12:01 PM
        Let me share with you what my cousin Aggie said when she was on what was to be her last road show GiGi. She knew she was terminally ill, yet she chose to make one last tour. "The older I grow, the more I realize that the trvialities that used to frustrate one when you were younger...they don't mean anything. Theater is a thankless art. When the curtain goes down, that is all. It really doesn't mean anything, memories are short, and fame is fleeting." She died in late April of 1974. In case you are wondering my cousin was Agnes Moorehead..anyway her theory also includes the thought that "Fear of living is more frightening than the fear of dying. The fear of experiencing everything one would want too is paralyzing." Live flat out and even if you believe in reincarnation live flat out. Fear is only us getting in our own way...my cousin taught me well....
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      Mon, December 5, 2005 - 5:13 PM
      .......and sometimes all you can do is wait until all the notches in the keys combo are lined up.....
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    Mon, December 5, 2005 - 11:19 AM
    ok well first are you happy now in general with this transition in your life... answer that then if you r so satisifide with whats going on then ya you might afraid of change... lets us see...hmm well then there is the grass is allways greaner... so well is the qustion how to keep on till you get what you want or knowing what you truely want. lets see. there is no such thing as achieving a dream... you set a goal and you make it to that step.... a dream continues to grow even if you arnt awair of it... yes a dream as hope or desire not what you do when you sleep... or is it..... human beings are as all animals never saticefied the are endlees in the unapiesable appitite for this concept of contentment... hello everybodys herd the saying... it is the journey not the destination. you dont go to a party to do something other than contribute and be a part of the party. you go for that experiance but you make the experiance.. like sex how fun or how well do you think it would serve any spiecies if it was just touch and go... do you think that life would exist if we procreated like that... come on all woman should know that. it takes effeort to reap the bennifits of of effort. or lets go another way.. hungry why wait eat a candy bar... fast simple easy obtainable. now eat that everyday plain as is for eternity... well do you think you might try to taste more than what you have... the forbiden fruit perhaps.... that is destony to never fully achieve what youmost desire the hunger nead or want drives us we are all r that fiend... adickted to getting more out of lif.e that is a reson why humanity exists as we do...cause we strive to live more..... so what is it that you are asking this isnt the right q for u... lite as it maybe topical lets say well just throw this on it and ask your self why is this the qustion i asked. u r pondering about it yourself what is driveing this desire for this explanation... what light will i find in an answer... nothing exept a new qustion.. if you want it you just nead to do it... consiquences are reactions to actions they happen weather you do or not, so try not to fret about doing it the act you seek .... worry more on regreting not doing what u are a being here to exist... so live and act... questioning all the way...
    best ive found yet is deffinatly why.. as i answer each time i find nore a reson to believe and to be....
    ----------just poundering thnx for the question-----------
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    Mon, December 5, 2005 - 12:49 PM
    Reaching a goal in life usually was an enjoyable experience. Once the goal was achieved I needed other goals. It’s natural that the mind is afraid. It is natural that there is struggle along the way. I have been afraid giving public speeches, giving a toast, having a public art exhibition. I have been afraid of death and of all kinds of things. Every time I overcame my fears I felt relieved.

    Yet, I have to move forward. I always think is the worst what can happen. Maybe the worst wheat can happen is that I am unloved and disapproved. Anyway, at the end what matters is that I am there for me and I am never abandoning myself. Even if I would reach a long cherished goal but as a result the World would turn against me (given my motivations are noble), I still would never give up on me. It is up to us to protect that frightened inner child within us. Self-sabotage out of fear is a definite choice however. I would not want do be lady Di, for example. She did not have any freedom to move around undetected. What a hell in my eyes?

    Self-sabotage can be constructive. If you become a beauty queen but as a result become sick and anorexic – nobody sees you as you but just your glamorous outer shell, one has to rethink if one really wants to achieve a superficial goal, while deep inside one remains lonely and even unloved. It all depends of what the goal is and if we can handle to reach the goal. Maybe some goals are not worthwhile to achieve anyway. We need to figure out what really matters to us in life.

    I like spiritual goals the best. They give room for expansion and are less threatening and far more nurturing than let’s say “materialistic goals.”
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      Mon, December 5, 2005 - 5:28 PM
      "Self-sabotage can be constructive."

      ah yes.....best when knowingly carried out, carefully executed and planned ahead of time, best when the energy you have summoned upon yourself commands your respect, fear, and an attitude of subserviant servitude to the un-be-known-to-you God.

      poisioning myself with goodness......
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    Re: Fear of Success

    Sun, January 28, 2007 - 3:22 PM
    Brilliant subject matter. No matter what it is, even a molecule can get competitive or in the way of a dream. Next time I get to success and things are smiling at me I'll remember not to frown back. I want to re-charge and let future successes seep into my soul.
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      Sun, January 28, 2007 - 4:53 PM
      I consider success as a peak. It can be scary to stand at the top. Where do you go from there? How long can you hang on to it? What do you do now? Where's the next goal? All valid questions....some which people find impossible to answer, thus choose to not scale. It's an easier fall from a step than a pinnacle...although the view from the top can be incredible!!
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    Mon, January 29, 2007 - 9:16 AM
    While my progress to success has still been measured in baby steps, many friends and colleages that surround me have gone from baby steps to leaps and bounds. While I have been happy for then I have seen other people they know treat them differently seemingly for no reason. Suddenly they get snubbed and they are not sure what brought it on. My friend Richard is experiencing that right now and it baffles me but I wonder if it is a matter of insecurity that causes this.

    That possibility scares me if I was to leap up the ladder suddenly myself. I dont want the friendships I have to change just because of successes. I just want to be the same humble hippie-esque artist I have always been.
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      Mon, January 29, 2007 - 7:59 PM
      winning is a scary thing; you and your life changes. you cannot see beyond the days end when the sun dies; what will the dawn bring?

      On the other hand if the folks you love are with you damn the torpedos and full speed ahead. hopefully someone in your circle has the authority to firmly kick your ass around your ears and make you take the lime light.
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        Mon, January 29, 2007 - 8:28 PM
        As far as me personally, yeah, that hits the nail right on the head. I never want to take credit for someone else's hard work or something that I didnt directly put my hands into. Thats why when sheer luck brings me a windfall I dont take credit for it. Still, I must learn how to take the limelight when I do earn it. Modesty is my goal so I dont know how to take the limelight and compliments but at the same time keep modest. again, so many people's egos spiral out of control. I would like to think that Im stronger than that but ...Im still human so I dont know.

        -Kat
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        Tue, January 30, 2007 - 7:34 AM
        I frequently sabotage myself. In fact, I've become pretty slick at it. Self sabotage can be a strangely comfortable habit. There are some hidden payoffs in cheesing out. I usually start with a goal that I feel is perfectly attainable and may be. In my mind the goal becomes perfectionistic and overwhelming, so I procrastinate. That way I keep the idea of achieving my goal alive, but I didn't have to face adjusting the fantasy of the achievement to the reality of day to day working toward the goal. It ends up being an "all or nothing" mentality. Here's what I'm doing that's working. I'm setting small achievable goals. When I tick them off, I allow myself a feeling of acomplishment (no matter how small). When I set goals, I do the minimum, so it doesn't seem so gigantic. If I finish that, then I can polish it up and make it better if circumstances allow. Success brings with it a commitment and vulnerability that can be intimidating. The main thing is that you're doing what you love, because success is not its own reward. Ernie's so right, it helps to surround yourself with people who know your tricks, love you, and can and will hold you to task:)
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    Tue, January 30, 2007 - 9:22 AM
    I think perhaps it happens when someone has been so invested in what they seek to attain that they don't know who they'd be without the seeking (this is only one way it might happen, but I'm nearly late for class so it's all I've got right now).

    Justin
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      Wed, January 31, 2007 - 4:14 PM
      I agree - sometimes it's really frightening to think of what you will be if you achieve a particular goal. Especially if it's closely tied to your identity and how you have always perceived yourself. Change always requires redefining one's self. It also requires challenging the way others see you and that can be equally scary. But I have found, every single time I've moved through some really scary change, that on the other side it's much better. Going through the fear and the reulting changes are always worth it. AND every stinking time I get to the other side I find myself thinking "well that wasn't such a big deal - what was I so antsy about?"
      • Re: Fear of Success

        Tue, February 6, 2007 - 11:33 PM
        indeed *grins* fear is often miss leading I've found. It's nice to grow and change even if it's daunting.
        • Re: Fear of Success

          Mon, April 23, 2007 - 3:58 AM
          fear vs focus. success vs survival. most miss what is the most important in life.
          • Re: Fear of Success

            Mon, April 23, 2007 - 9:48 PM
            when you spend your life self-medicating to deal with the fear, eventually you become addicted to the fear. without my fear, what would i have left? who would i be? how would i know who i was? in order to let go of fear, you have to let go of the Self. not kill it or destroy it - just let it go.
  • Re: Fear of Success

    Sun, August 19, 2007 - 1:51 AM
    Be patience is what comes to my mind.....
    Also learn more about yourself ......make a list write down
    what you expect of yourself......
    Don't say to yourself that you can't do something work .....
    work towards it.....its not just a Dream / wish but a happening....

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