So, what new will be on the new Tribe besides the streamline improvements?
The #1 thing that I'd love to see is a chat app built in like they have on Facebook. Talk about use - that'd be a hugely useful tool. Then again, maybe that's the problem? The bandwidth?
Anyway.
Keep up the good work, and thanks for Tribe.
Andrew
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 9:53 PMbecause the response to "tribechat" has been sooooo positive thus far, right? ummm....no. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 12:44 AM<because the response to "tribechat" has been sooooo positive thus far, right? ummm....no.>
Um, Frec - it's been "soooooo positive thus far" because it's a bad app. If it was PART OF Tribe like the Facebook app was that automatically opened? It'd be immediately extremely successful, I'd bet on it.
<Personally, I would just like an edit post feature so I can correct typos I never seem to spot until after I've hit submit.>
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh......(whispering) Qumar, if you're using Firefox, you can simply hit the 'back' button and make the change if no one has posted to that thread BEFORE you RE-HIT the 'submit' button. shhhhhhhh don't tell anyone.........
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 12:57 AMShhhhhhhhh......(whispering), you can do that with IE, too...didn't work everytime for awhile, but now it seems to work, as long as no one has posted to the thread before you hit the 'submit' button, you can edit/correct your post...Shhhh.... -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 6:14 AMpersonally I really don't want to see Darren spending even one second on a chat feature or fixing tribechat, its unneccessary & I don't even want to think of the amount of work necessary to get the POS tribechat into something useable. There is trillian, yahoo, AiM out there already, I already use all of them to talk to my tribe friends as well as others, i don't need a tribe specific chat & don't think anyone else does, certainly no one I have talked to feels the need for tribe chat -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 8:13 AMWhat Simon Said.Many people actually do not want tribe to be connected in any way to other netwrking sites that they might have an account on.Me, if I wanted to deal with facebook or myspace i'd log in more than once a month or so, just to clear the spam. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 11:42 AMI created an account on facebook after tribe kept crashing and started getting hundreds of spam emails every damn day since.
Facebook is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY over rated. I never log in anymore (and I work in IT so I have a computer on my lap every minute unless I'm driving or sleeping).
I think the fact that you can't correct a post that's been replied to is the way it should stay. I hate typos more than most (I'm notorious for perfect spelling and grammar), but we all know people who would go back and change the substance of their posts after someone called them on their b.s. [cough coughadam cough]. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 12:16 PMPlease, please, please, Darren...
OPEN LINK IN NEW TAB
OPEN LINK IN NEW TAB
OPEN LINK IN NEW TAB
OPEN LINK IN NEW TAB
OPEN LINK IN NEW TAB
OPEN LINK IN NEW TAB
OPEN LINK IN NEW TAB
OPEN LINK IN NEW TAB
I HATE that every time I click on a link it takes me out of tribe. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 2:59 PMCan't you just right-click and select that yourself? Not eveyone in the world is using a multi-tab browser.
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 2:39 PM<personally I really don't want to see Darren spending even one second on a chat feature or fixing tribechat, its unneccessary & I don't even want to think of the amount of work necessary to get the POS tribechat into something useable. There is trillian, yahoo, AiM out there already, I already use all of them to talk to my tribe friends as well as others, i don't need a tribe specific chat & don't think anyone else does, certainly no one I have talked to feels the need for tribe chat>
Simon, I'm not sure if I understand what you're saying. Your post was kinda ambiguous. Open up. Share. Don't be afraid to tell people what you think.
<Many people actually do not want tribe to be connected in any way to other netwrking sites that they might have an account on.>
I think that you misunderstood.
I am not suggesting that the kind of chat feature that I am discussing would be connected to any other 'netwrking' site. Just Tribe.
One limitation of tribe and a might anchor has been Tribe's inability to move forward with the changes that the other sites have very successfully gone through. Tribe is 100X better than Myspace and Facebook - why are those doing so well? The reality is that people like to chat. They like to IM eachother. They like to text. This is one of the 'kill aps' that really has changed how people communicate, just as e'mail changed how people communicated in the mid'90s. That you don't do it does not mean that it's not a necessary part of any networking/communication site.
Are you on Facebook? Have you seen their chat app? It's tiny yet incredibly useful. I'm not suggesting that Darren should stop everything else that he's doing and jump on it, but it'd be a great addition. That's all.
<I HATE that every time I click on a link it takes me out of tribe.>
Ahem.............ctrlclick/apple->open link somethingorother will do it on a Mac. Or, on a PC, right click on the link and choose 'Open Link In New Window/Tab'.
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 3:12 PMThe other option is "open link in new window."
I work in IT, so I know how to do it. I also belong to social networking sites where that is the default. I have also read comments from others who don't know how to do it complaining about it. I have also found it annoying to have to right click select from the list every damn time when I know there is the possibility that it can be changed one time in one place by Darren for me and everyone else on tribe for each and every time, each and every link.
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 3:27 PMI work in IT as well, as a web developer, and tossing people into a new window for each and every link is not considered a "best practice" and kind of pisses people off.
If Darren decides to add this feature in an effort to make Tribe seem more like Facebook for some people, then I think there should be a user-controlled setting that allows us to turn it on or off. I sure as hell don't want each and every link popping open a new tab or window, even for external links. I can control that myself and don't need Tribe to do this for me.
And why are we even discussing the addition of new features to 3.0? I thought this was going to be a code migration under the sheets. I think they should be focusing on keeping the look, feel and function of Tribe consistent through the migration. Adding new goodies would only cloud the issue and make for a more difficult testing and transition phase. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 3:34 PM<<And why are we even discussing the addition of new features to 3.0? I thought this was going to be a code migration under the sheets. I think they should be focusing on keeping the look, feel and function of Tribe consistent through the migration. Adding new goodies would only cloud the issue and make for a more difficult testing and transition phase.>>
Exactly!!
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 3:38 PMI'm not talking about facebook, but a private website one of my software company starting friends developed for us to keep in touch back in '01.
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 5:40 PM<I have also found it annoying to have to right click select from the list every damn time>
Yeah, I do understand, no doubt - I just think that more people would like to be able to click on links and run around instead of having to close a whole bunch of windows every time that they want to dig around the web. Thus - the same page is the default.
<I work in IT as well, as a web developer, and tossing people into a new window for each and every link is not considered a "best practice" and kind of pisses people off.>
There you go.
<And why are we even discussing the addition of new features to 3.0? I thought this was going to be a code migration under the sheets.>
Because I went and upset the apple cart. Oops.
<Adding new goodies would only cloud the issue and make for a more difficult testing and transition phase.>
True, I just thought to mention it because that chat app at Facebook was so well done.
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 6:14 PMOkay, I think I see where we may not be on the same page. What I'm talking about are links to things out side of tribe. The way our other site is set up, hypertext keeps you in the same window UNLESS THE LINK TAKES YOU OFF THE SITE and in that case, it opens in another window.
One reason this makes better business sense is because you don't lose your eyeballs to another site accidentally. People leave your website of their own volition, not inadvertently because they clicked on a link for photos that took them to flicker instead of someone's tribe photo page.
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:19 PMPersonally, I would just like an edit post feature so I can correct typos I never seem to spot until after I've hit submit. -
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Sun, May 11, 2008 - 10:34 PMThe one glaring problem I see with this feature is all the "revisionism" that will go on if this is developed.
I just respond to myself with the corrections in place before the self annointed "educators of Tribe State" get to it!
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 1:30 PMThis is all noted -- I have to say that the chat server would get a lot of use if the interface was like Facebooks (yes, I spent a little bit of time trying to figure out how to rip off their chat app, I admit it...)
The nature of Ruby on Rails means that there will be a lot of improvements in the UI. Ruby On Rails isn't like Java that tribe is currently in -- it's more like an application where you tell it the parameters and it builds itself. There are some additions that I know people will rave about, and the "look" of tribe won't change at all -- but the "feel" might be different, and if we do it right then it'll be a lot faster.
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 1:31 PMGood luck.
Do you want my token to wear in the lists?
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Tue, May 13, 2008 - 3:01 AMI would love to be able to mark my tribe messages as "unread" after reading them and also some form of indication that I have replied to them..
Good Luck Darren and thanks for the update !!! -
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Fri, May 16, 2008 - 9:46 PMI would love the ability to allow people to join a tribe but not post-i.e. a read-only tribe.
I'm in the process of creating an FAQ tribe to address the FAQ's of a large and active tribe of mine. So far my only way of having this work is to make the tribe moderated, so people can read it, but rather than letting people join, having them bookmark it, so it stays streamlined, and cuts down on the amount of work I have to do to moderate.
Make sense?
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