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Dewatering BD & WVO

Doctor_Who — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:50:15 GMT

So I've decided that I've had enough of disposable filters and whatnot for cleaning my oil. And I've been doing a little casual research into either building or buying a centrifuge to separate out particulates and water from my base waste oil.

I decided to flip through YouTube as it seems to be an endless source of ppl with hairbrained ideas on just about anything you can type into the search box.

Well it turns out that a apparently popular way to dewater veggie oil has been heat the oil up. Now while this is a crude and quasi-effective means of evaporating water out of oil, it really is just taking one form of carbon savings and transferring it to another. (But I'll save the carbon emissions spiel for another occassion)

I'm going to tell you my top 2 runners up for the Biodiesel Darwin Awards and leave you with links for your personal viewing pleasure. Just in case you havent figured this out. DONT DO THIS!

High among my fave videos are of one subgenius using 12,000 kilowatt hours to heat his oil in a barrell. He had tapped a hot water heater into the side of his barrel. Besides the fact that these heaters will glow red hot if not completely covered with liquid, it just seems incredible to me that this guy would think it was a good idea to use so much energy to dewater his veggie oil. He was however very proud of the fact that he used toilet paper tubes to keep his gloves open so they could dry out while he wasnt using them. He also seemed rather proud of the negative ventilation unit that he built out of bathroom fan and some sort of flexible vent tube to sit over the bung hole. This was "to keep the smell down".... I'm not sure what that means but the fact that the water that he had trapped in the closed barrel was likely to just recondense on the sides and lid and drip back into the oil seems to have escaped him.

Points for the toilet paper tubes, but minus those points for the fire marshals investigation into why he burned down his garage and scorched the neighbors house with the biggest grease fire since the one at the pit bbq 30 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8DWsB8CAGQ
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My next fave comes from the timeless problem of how to dewater oil if you live in a apartment. This gentleman is limited by the fact that he has moved into a place with no garage. So he has decided to place a plastic barrel next to the laundry equipment and to heat the oil in a 5 gallon pot that he proceeds to heat up on his stove to "around 300 degrees" then he lets it cool down to "150 degrees", then he uses one pot to pour it into another pot and then pours that pot through a rudimentary metal strainer (sized to catch french fries and rat tails) and also a sock filter ONCE and lets it cool. Points for at least having a strainer / sock filter combo. Minus points for pouring scorching oil into a plastic container.

My major complaint about this video is that you dont actually get to see this rocket surgeon potentially heating up the oil to its flash point in the largest canning vat he could find at the flea market. Thus causing him time in jail and his neighbors in a red cross supplied hotel because they didnt have renters insurance and didnt know their neighbor was heating up and had stored enough oil to cause the fire dept to call for the foam unit two counties away.

The fact that he goes through all this labor JUST to pour the oil into his diesel Ford, tickles me. Besides being an enormous waste of energy heating the oil on a stove top the labor intensive process this guy invented leaves no doubt as to why the USA is #21 in the world for science.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCJqwK_aHFg
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Now I dont want you to think I'm making fun of these people, because I'm really not. I think of it as more of letting you see these people making fun of themselves. What these folks are doing is simply demonstrating the relative genius and hardy nature of the diesel engine.

This next video is one that I consider to the be the winner in this batch of nominees. This is representative of the least common denominator when it comes to biofuel or waste veggie oil systems. Just because you found it on the Internet doesn't mean its a good idea. While these guys don't have the spit and polish of some of the other systems on the market lets face it, they represent a very real segment of people who have no earthly idea of what they are doing, but they are willing to sell it to you in kit form.

One of my major problems with this idea is the fact that the guy hosting the video repeatedly mentions that the system is clogged up right now, but that its ok because he just poured too much dirty oil into it and that he also needs to just change the filter. To me there are more glaring problems than just a clogged home filtration water filter. My main problem with this system is the fact that the bottom tank has no way of being emptied. With no way to drain the filthy oil particulates, or dump it when after months of settling with water and algae it becomes rancid.

Points for being the first and only system that I've seen that was completely gravity based. Also points for not being a serious danger to life and property. This system uses no pumps or heaters or other energy consuming or carbon producing means. I'm not a big fan of just randomly heating oil as is causes turbulence in the oil and extends settling time. (Try it if you dont believe me oil that isnt heated will settle in a shorter period of time than oil that is heated). Points deducted for being almost completely ineffective for anything except storing mass quantities of oil for settling out. I wouldnt go so far as to say it is a bad idea, just a mediocre one with poor execution.

In case anyone is wondering this system is modeled very similarly to a mound septic system. With a settling tank, a separate weeping tank and in the place of the weeping array an overflow tank to receive the "filtered oil". The major differences is that a 2 or 3 tank septic system is mounted with baffles on the interior of the tank so that the settled sediment isnt stirred up by the arrival of fresh waste. Thereby limiting or eliminating the possibility of solids to the secondary weeping tank. Now I'm not making any puns about crappy design here, but it kind of makes you wonder where the inspiration for this idea came from.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEbwK27YJIQ&NR=1

Well thats all for now. So many videos and so little time to write them up. Keep it safe and when in doubt make a YouTube video!

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best veggie oil conversion kit

Esteban — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:49:43 GMT

Just thought I would get some feedback on what you greasers thought about what the best Veggie Oil Conversion kits out there. I ordered a Fyrbrid Veggie oil conversion kit for my 1980 240 mercedes Diesel which has a 300D motor in it. I ordered this kit on May 24th of this year and I have still not received it. I was told by many grease Car enthusiasts out there that Frybrid was the best Grease car kit made out on the market. It may be. However, I am going on three months now since I have ordered this kit and I am now thinking about cancelling my order and going with a different grease car conversion kit. I look forward to your input.
Estaban

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Good starter scooter?

MidnightOrchid — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 19:15:13 GMT

I would like to make the transition to a scooter / moped (which ever is the politically correct term). What is the best starter bike?

Short-term goal: good engine, save money on gas, derivable at night, some storage would be nice
Long Term: High way riding, great engine, gas mileage, storage and comfortable

I don’t mind buying an under 200 cc as a starter and upgrading later. I’m looking for something not too heavy and easy for a beginner to learn and be able to comfortably upgrade to something with more power later.

Mis:

I’m currently considering
RV250 citycom300
Daelim S251
Genuine Buddy

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WVO School Bus - Cross Country in September

RadicalBunnny — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:43:49 GMT

We are a family of four embarking on a nomadic cross-country trip in a school bus we're converting into an RV that runs on WVO. We're hoping to be able to find oil along the road, if you have any or know of a good source, to share or sell, we'd love to hear about it. We're traveling from New England to the Pacific Northwest starting in September '08. We'll be hitting CT, MA, NY, PA, OH, MI, WI, IL and TN to start off. We'll have the capacity to filter on the road, so decent quality dumpster grade would be fine. You can reach me directly at radicalarts@ecoisp.com. Thanks! Chris

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For Sale: 1980 Mercedes Benz 300SD Turbo Oil (BioDiesel/Diesel) $2500 in Santa Monica, CA

matthew — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:10:22 GMT

1980 Mercedes Benz 300SD Turbo Diesel $2500
S-Class Mercedes (Top of the line) with "single tank conversion" from Lovecraft runs on 100% vegetable oil = free fuel! Can also run on biodiesel or diesel (and any combination of the 3). I'll be happy to show you how to collect, filter, and fill with free used vegetable oil.
175,000 miles. No rust. Very safe car, tank-like. Peppy turbo. A/C works. NEW: brakes (calipers, pads, master cylinder), 4 tires, A/C service, engine mounts, engine shocks, steering box. Known issues: oil leak at turbo charger, engine noise, some dash instruments don't work. This car is not drivable until the oil leak is fixed. It starts and idles, but loses oil. My mechanic says $400 to fix the leak.

310-745-7702 or 310-804-8095

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Veggie Oil in Santa Cruz (or anywhere along the 101N between LA and Santa Cruz)

sayr — Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:13:04 GMT

Hi all!

My wife and I are making a trip up to Santa Cruz (from LA along the 101N) today.
We are looking for somewhere to buy filtered veggie oil to put in our empty cubes (we'll haul them along) or in our 300TD tank.

Anyone know of a place to score some clean oil in our near Santa Cruz??

Thanks for any help!!

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Hey!

ik — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:37:29 GMT

Why does no one reply in this tribe?

Is there anybody out there???

Looking for co ops or/and to help out gathering wvo in the Santa Cruz area?

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Diesel to VO Conversion Slave!!!

Roman — Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:38:50 GMT

Dear sisters and brothers,
I would love to be your conversion slave. I work for free and only need a place to throw up a tent or a sleeping bag. Nourishment is also accepted, but i am getting ahead of my self. I am very mechanically inclined, as i do personal work on a '83 300D Mercedes, and have done so on a few previous non diesel vehicle. My moral and energy is always high and positive, and I work until the job is done right. I am willing a positive and creative environment where I may be able to learn the process on any diesel vehicle. The desire to learn arises from being resourceful in using a waste product as fuel and to eventually convert my own car. I may also have the pleasure of taking the skill to South Africa in February, where I will be creating dwellings out of clay and earth. Let’s enjoy each other!

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How do i heat grease in a plastic tank?

change — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:36:46 GMT

ive had to switch to sturdy plastic 14 gallon tank for fuel since my main tank was damaged by mechanics.
Im want to ride veggie but im not sure how to heat the grease...should i heat the copper line it moves through (doubt that could be done).
Im curious about a way to safely heat oil in the tank. I wouldnt want it to melt just because its not topped off.
thanks for your attention and contact me to converse.
Peace
Change

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rack for a 300CD?

salamandyr — Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:33:12 GMT

anyone know a roof rack or on-trunk rack that will fit a 300CD?

even a temp one would be fine - i need to carry a bunch of 5 foot poles.

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need VO for roadtrip (NY, PA, VA, NC, SC)

GreenJoel — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:18:55 GMT

hey all, I'm taking a roadtrip from the Boston, MA area to western South Carolina...my truck runs on veggie, but I can't seem to get enough for the trip before leaving...so, if anyone along the way (taking rtes.90 to 84 to 287 to 78 to 81...) can spare some decent, filtered veggie, I'd be forever appreciative...plus we'd work out a fair trade.

I'm actually leaving today (I know - I should have posted earlier!) but if anyone can help out, please email me either here on tribe or at joelhenderson AT hotmail DOT com (you can figure it out I'm sure, hehe)

thanks

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Good diesel buses available at reasonable prices

patrick — Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:22:17 GMT

Howdy folks

I just got some more buses. All diesel, nothing over 4500 dollars, all with warranty.

Two have automatics, all the rest are 5 or ten speed manuals.

Just give me a yell if you know anyone who needs a bus or any bus part

Thanks

Patrick Young
WheelchairBusProject
www.fresnoalliance.com/wheelchairproject
(559) 2651-3814 or (559) 244-1042

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Hartford Advocate

RadicalBunnny — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 05:52:24 GMT

I got a little feature in the Hartford Advocate's My Ride column.

http://www.ctnow.com/custom/nmm/hartfordadvocate/hce-hta-1214-ht51ncridemyride51.artdec14,0,3277811.story

Chris

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Biodiesel / Diesel Step Van FOR SALE

Crystie — Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:49:27 GMT

1988 Chevy Diesel Step Van--- shelved, spacious, barn doors at the back- 26 foot truck...

perfect for a travelling road show or a shop on wheels or to go to burning man and beyond....

also makes a formidable travellign house- great potential for solar power on the top.....

purchased it to become mobile music studio/travelling road show but I'm leaving for Mexico and going to look for another bus there....

Great Buy- lots of mechanical work done, new tires, run on 99.9 biodiesel or make your own or convert to SVO

priced to sell--- $4000 OBO

ps-- her name is Mothership Mary

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Anyone know a good (and nice) mechanic in Brkly/Oakland?

eliV — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:21:51 GMT

Howdy,

Me and a friend just purchased a Diesel StepVan and will be picking it up soon. We're looking for a place to take it in the area and get the fluids changed and have it looked at and "tuned up" before we drive it 2hrs to start the WVO conversion. But most important i'd like to take it to a Bio/SVO friendly place where the mechanic will let us watch what he's doing as well as explain it.
Hell, i'm even willing to pay a non-official mechanic if that person will be quite helpful/knowledgeable; and has the facilities.

thnx,
eli.

Post Scriptum:
Sorry about posting this is so many different Tribe forums, just trying to build/find/access the grease network.

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good diesel mechanic near Berkeley WANTED

indigo — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 04:46:15 GMT

Hi,

I'm looking for a good diesel mechanic for my '96 300E veg oil sedan. It's an awesome car that Dennis Luchini (a god) got the bugs out of a BAD conversion and now that's all good. But I'd like a general mechanic nearby. I've tried Moran and they're nice but diesels aren't their big thing. As the car isn't the Regan -era model that most people drive, I'd like someone familiar with newer diesels.

Thanks,
Indigo

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want to convert a VW.....???

karakay — Sun, 28 May 2006 20:14:18 GMT

I have for many years wanted to convert a VW Bug into some formof green energy fuel,, Whether it be Boi deisel,,,,but is there anyone with a suggestion of another alternative that would convert a VW??

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Your veggie wizardry, my buses and engines = Blazing Orgazms/Unimaginable Bliss

patrick — Mon, 22 May 2006 21:06:12 GMT

Howdy veggers
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"I remember my first orgasm. I tell ya, I was terrified. Hey whattya expect, I was all by myself" --the late great Rodney Dangerfield.
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I'm Patrick, the King of California Buses. There simply Is No Equal, so don't bother looking. I already know some of you. I was going to write a generic letter explaining my self, and reason for existence, but instead decided to amaze and delght you wth this litle bit of mirth I call "my latest ad on Ebay". Enjoy......

Here is the text of my new Ebay ad. Send it only to those who have courage and gentleness, strong backs and broad hips, or something like that. It is titled (to attract Fat Older White Men With Money) "FOR SALE: MY ATTRACTIVE WIFE AND BUS"
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Well, I'm actually only selling an "image" of my attractive wife now. EBay rejected my first ad, and the wife weren’t too pleased either. She got on her computer, went to EBay and listed me in Antiques, subcategory "Jerks" so I guess I got what I deserved.

So what am I really selling in this ad? Well, what’s it to you? Are you here to buy a very good high quality long lasting rugged and powerful diesel bus from me, or give me hard time? I would definitely do the former, because I have a terrible temper and poor emotional control in most situations (except when helping a grateful and satisfied customer with their high quality ultra durable best deal on the Net rugged and capable diesel bus, or parts.)

You can see all the buses I got, it's ridiculous at this point. I'm getting 3-4 more this month. So why would a otherwise sane person be doing this?? (selling buses, not wives) Well read on my son, read on.

I do this bus thing to support my fabulous non-profit, the Wheelchair Project. My wife and I went to Central America (that was my first wife, she ran away with one of my buses, a tall strapping young triple axle with a full head of hair and a devil may care Bad Boy attitude. I still see them around town now and then, and it still hurts) and had kids brought to us who were either very sick, going deaf, etc. and it was just from lack of very simple stuff like clean water, and medicines you could get at Wal-Mart for three bucks.

So, we either had a chance to face it, or act like we didn’t see it, so we decided to face it. So we helped raise 9000 bucks, and sent it to some scam artists who were supposed to be legitimate (Hey I DIDN”T choose these folks, the group did) and went we got to Nicaragua, the hospital hadn’t been destroyed, they never heard of us, and the only thing that got down there was the 15 boxes of supplies we hand carried, and little cases of ampicillin and penicillin we bought in Mexico City.

So after that, I decided to never give away the Do Rey Mee, but to go in person and at least check the stuff into the hospital, school, etc. Then if it got stolen it would still go into some person’s sick behind, or under some wheelchair needy person’s fanny (I send lots of wheelchair, so my thing is called the Wheelchair Project)

By now you may we thinking, “Is he ever gonna get to the bus for sale?”

Ok, I’ll start, but only after reminding you that I’m going to Haiti in about 2 months, gonna ship a Ford bus with a healthy CAT motor, full of the stuff the folks requested (school supplies, generators, Honda Trail 90 motorbikes, medical supplies, a copy machine, etc…..no junk or used clothing please!)

So when you buy a high quality near eternal timeless hand crafted bus of bliss from me, I will take said money and buy more stuff for the project, or bend over deeply then write the check to get the bus through the Panama Canal (6 Grand, oh I love it) or change the differential (the bus only goes 50) and drive it to Miami, great fun in a noisy front engine bus with a sheet of plywood/wall right behind the driver.

But enough about me. What do YOU think about my project?

OK you wanna bus, I gotta bus. How about a mid 70’s Gillig or Crown? Why these models you say? Because the are simply the best, unequalled in quality, and bonehead simple for boneheads like you (and your extended family) and me.

These buses were built by hand (both left AND right) and sold for over 100 thousand George Washingtons back in the day, and that was back when 20 bucks could buy you a Deusenberg or an entire politician. Kids nowadays, nothing but a bunch of lazy gang bangers, driving around with that loud “music” blasting….Boy I could just grab one of ‘em by the neck and squeeze until their eyes pop, but I can’t because I teach in the public schools (20 years of tears, laughter and spineless administrators)

OK I guess I’ll sell you the Crown bus I have. It is a good bus. It is very clean. It bathes regularly, goes to church on Saturday (I don’t know why either) and will give you years of love affection and loyalty.

It’s a 1970 Crown, with a healthy and happy 220 horsepower Cummins and a 5 speed transmission. (ONLY 220 horsepower in a 19,000 lb behemoth?) Yes, only 220 horsepower, but it produces it at about 1800 RPM, and would squash your SUV like the overpriced insect that it is, and just drive right on without even a glance back.) The engine is 743 cubic inches of six cylinder hell, built for torque, and will haul 15,000 lbs without even blinking a headlight. I know, I’ve done it a time or 8. The tires are good too. They are really. They are all Michelins, tubeless, with the biggest size on a bus, 12R x 22.5. (Are you bidding yet? I can hold for a minute while you do…)

The bus is almost perfect inside, and 100% original and stock like the day it left the factory. I’ve already put about 400 miles on this bus, and let me tell you, it towed perfectly behind the wrecker. But seriously, it’s a great bus, clean, starts and runs and drives like Rolls Royce, handles like a Ferrari, and gets better mileage than those new hybrid cars. I regularly get 40-42 miles per quart, and only fill up every third Leap Year, and even then these old engines will run on bathtub water, dirt, or old paint from your neighbor’s garage.

And if you’re one of this long haired wiseacres that smokes that stuff and thinks they know everything, then this bus can easily be converted to veggie oil. I have some young friends who smell vaguely like rotting cabbage, but they can convert a bus over to veggie faster than you can say pass the bong. But they’re only good until about 4:20 in the afternoon, then after that, park your bus and lock it.

But they will help you if you wanted to go veggie or biodiesel, I’m just too busy to explore the technology right now.

And I hope you realize that I’m not just selling This Bus alone. I am violating every rule made by God and EBay, and hoping they won't notice that I am trying to hustle everything I own with one ad. I’ve got other buses and lots of parts for sale. I even work on buses (once again a crappy way to make a buck, but you do meet lots of nice people, and their wives too if you play it right) and I learn from every job I do.

So write call, or just wire directly to my bank account in Zurich. It’s the one next to Jack Abramoff’s, right behind “Duke” Cunningham’s tear stained Certificates of Deposit.

OK feel free to call me off this site and help me evade EBay’s fees. They pay ABSOLUTELY NO ATTENTION to what I write anyway. Heck, I sold somebody’s mother in law to Liberia about 2 years ago, no problem, smooth transaction.

OK you can do one of the following:

1. Call me at home. (559) 251-3814

2. Write to my e-mail. It is WheelchairBusProject@yahoo.com

3. Go to my web site. That won’t accomplish anything, but nobody goes there, and my URL is lonely and depressed. It’s a good site, loads fast, etc. There are some pictures of my first wife there too, she’s the one holding the meat cleaver. It is www.fresnoalliance.com/wheelchairproject

4. Have some fun and write me going through (ugh) the traditional EBay channels. Then both you and the other folks who have endured this ad, and have way too much spare time, can read and enjoy my ridiculous answers to your attempted questions.

OK start bidding. There isn’t that much time. Don’t bid unless you really mean it though. I’ve suffered enough heartbreak and disappointment in life already, will be 50 in about two months, and just don’t need the hassle. But for those lucky few, bid now and bid high.

Bid for yourself, and bid to support the troops. Bid. Now. Bid bid bid bid bid. Get your wife involved. Heck it’s fun for the whole family. A bus looks good in the den or driveway, and can be used as a temporary holding facility for your oldest daughter and her boyfriend when he gets out of jail.

Ok gotta go, the wife’s waking up.
So BID, bid now, and bid high, …………………because If You Don’t bid, the terrorists will have won.

Specialist 4 Patrick Young
64C20/30 (light/heavy truck driver)
Decorated veteran of the 501st transportation company
Kaiserslautern and Frankfurt Germany.
“Keeping the Russians at bay since 1974”

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North Bay conversions

Dusty — Mon, 22 May 2006 18:24:57 GMT

Hi folks .
Last October 05 I attended a bio-feul gathering in San Francisco @ cell space . Many vehicles ,Julia "Butterfly" Hill and their bus, and many helpfull people . I was most impressed by one young man explaining the whole WVO conversion thing for diesel. He does conversions in the North Bay area I think Sebastopol or Santa Rosa. Im getting an 81 Mercedes and need to reconnect with him RE: The conversion
Aloha
Dusydog
jbgort@hotmail

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the national wvo / svo / greasecar network / coop

Sprockett — Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:03:45 GMT

Hey everyone,

I'm glad to find this group here on tribe! If any of you are going to burning man 06, i'll be there in my greasecar 82 VW campervan, staying at the contact improvisation camp.

So, where you want to go if you want to travel cross country and fill up on free veggie oil along the way is http://www.fillup4free.com. Also, if you have oil to share you should go there too.

-Kristopher

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New kid here }:o)

busdweller — Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:47:51 GMT

Hello folks

For the last 3 years I've live full time in my converted school bus/home. ve 2200 watts of PV solar on it. I just baught a 1974 GMC Buffilo to convert in to my new bus/home. It has an 8-71 motor with 140,000 miles on it and I would like to convert it to WVO. Can any of you folks tell me what im in for as to work, parts and cost.

Peace along the way
Dennis the bus dweller N.Y.

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Diesel Power

Doctor_Who — Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:08:10 GMT

Hey kids [and old farts] I wanted to drop in and do a little shameless advertising for my new tribe.

Its called Diesel and/or Diesel Power and its going to deal with all the new advancement in diesel technologies and alternative diesel fuels expanding on both renewable and non-renewable fuel sources.

Since the rise of the price of a barrell of oil and the well muffled general panic that is coming primarily from Suadi Arabia we are looking at a energy shortage. Nobody knows exactly when, but the oil companies themselves are starting to look for alternatives, considering it was the oil companies themselves who had stiffled any other alternatives this is a good sign.

Unfortunatly some of the solutions in the pipeline for the future, arent necessarily the cleanest most environmentally friendly options available and some others take waste products and turn them into clean burning alternatives. They do however address the need for cheap energy and if they can be scaled more easily than cleaner alternatives we could find ourselves on the same pickle in a different barrell.

The purpose of the tribe is to be informative, so that we all become better informed on what is out there as these other not so clean alternatives pop up. I have some really interesting {or at least I think its interesting} stuff posted already as well as have some contributions coming in.

I think we all know that bio-diesel will not be able to sustain our demands for fuel. But would you believe you could make diesel from waste woodchips and mix in a little bio-d for lubricity and whammo, you have a clean fuel and you help reduce the waste stream.

Anyways I hope that you will join, there are many very interesting topics to discuss and information to share.

tribes.tribe.net/dieselpower

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