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is it just me or did anyone else find the whole burning man trying to be green thing paradoxical? it just didn't play out effectively. I wrote a little more about it here:
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Re: the paradox of the green burn
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 2:14 PMWho said that they were trying to BE green? I thought it was just an art theme. -
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Re: the paradox of the green burn
Sun, September 9, 2007 - 7:11 PMoh right, silly me......ok I'm bored now....where's the blinky..... -
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Re: the paradox of the green burn
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 1:39 AMwe all know that this isn't a green festival, nor was it trying to be green. There is a contingency of people trying to get this festival up to speed with the LNT consciousness it promotes, however we know that it has a long way to go. The participants make that choice.
The infrastructure of BM is making that choice, but not on all front, and it's taking some time for sure. However I appreciate the small things that have move this festival's foot print.
I would not call this year the green year, and personally would have given it another year for education to the participants of what LEAVE NO TRACE really means... before putting out a theme like the Green Man and let people decide for themselves. The
"Green Man" theme confused people and many of us went with that to promote greener ways of living, but that is a lifestyle choice and there's often a whole process one goes through to go in that direction. It can't be forced on anyone because then it creates a back lash and as we are seeing now with this not so green year and a theme that gave off different ideas and implications it doesn't always work in all ways - as one would expect if you follow the patterns of this trend.
relax, enjoy, take in the simple things in life is the way I am dealing with this reactions from this year.
Burning Man is for a week or so and a time to share, connect, express, and hopefully leave no trace.
People will do what they will do and I am not impressed by the explosives or oil derricks, and waste accumulated at this event. Again it is the participants choice.
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Re: the paradox of the green burn
Mon, September 10, 2007 - 10:03 AMyeah, I wasn't impressed by the oil derrick either. the "statement" such as it was, is so hypocritical....let me see, we'll burn a whole bunch of fuel to show how awful it is to use fuel.......funny how people can reason anything to where it makes sense to them. I appreciate the work you are doing katrina, and you are right, changing people's behavior doesn't happen overnight. I do find there to be an inherent paradox in bman even trying to be green, given that it happens in a dry lake bed in the desert. there isn't much life that can survive there, so everything we bring in is largely artifical and man-made. I was lucky enough to see a few real living dragonflies out there this year, and in the past I've done some of the nature walks with the earth guardians around the hot springs. Coming from the history that burning man has becoming green is a very contradictory issue, but having responsibility for yourself is inherent in the event as well, so there is some potential there. I am glad for the work you are doing, keep it up. I think it is time for me to focus my efforts closer to home. I wish you much success. -
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Re: the paradox of the green burn
Sun, September 16, 2007 - 6:06 PMHaving loved the metal sculptures by Dan das Mann throughout the week, I was really sickened by the whole Crude Awakenings burn. I think it was SUPPOSED to feel very sickening as 1800+ vehicles converged on a giant explosion of chemicals with lights and engines running, gennies too. The smell of fumes and chemicals had me sick the entire night as I began to see and feel my death inside of my lungs.
I don't know if I can return to the playa, at least not for the big dance itself. I enjoy being there the week before when everyone GETS IT and you don't have to tell people to pick up their cigarette butts and take their plastic bottles home.
We seem to be getting worse about Leave No Trace as the event grows bigger......this should have been the year we changed this.
I was really mad at myself for not finishing the portocomics and really giving the whole shit a good dumping.
We definitely need more people who are willing to write about their difficult experiences, their struggles with "green" and how it plays out both in Black Rock and beyond. We all know that BRC is not a sustainable life, but it shouldn't have to be so disgusting that we're choking on the air!
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Re: the paradox of the green burn
Sun, September 16, 2007 - 10:28 PMI wish more people would look at things with a critical but fair eye to see where things can be improved. it's not about being judgemental it is about looking at something honestly and deciding which direction you want to go. there is so much happening in the world that is causing harm to the environment in many, many ways, that as a creative person I want to seek out and find ways to express and enjoy myself that contribute the least to that harm. We all take things from the generous bounty of this planet we live on, we do also have the opportunity to give back to it, though it seems rare to me that people do or even consider such a thing. We can close the loop of overt destruction and balance it out with healthy creativity. -
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Re: the paradox of the green burn
Tue, September 18, 2007 - 9:50 AMjust as an individual in this society cannot one day wake up and change every aspect of their lives to be 100% green, so the same is true for burning man. it will take time for the festival to become green, and given the nature of the burn, it will probably never be 100%.
thanks to everyone who worked so hard to start the process. if we keep working at it, then maybe in 10 years we will have a green festival in the desert!
personally, i thought the irony of crude awakening was perfect. they tried to bring the war home so that those of us in the desert could for maybe a few moments experience what our brothers and sisters in the iraqi desert are experiencing. no, it wasn't green, but it was a powerful reminder of why we need to become green, not just at burning man but in our whole lives. i know i personally have many more changes that i need to make in that direction. and when i wandered out there in the morning, the derrick was a smoldering ruin and the statues were worshipping the flat plain of the playa and the mountains in the distance. is this not what we are all after? -
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Re: the paradox of the green burn
Fri, November 2, 2007 - 9:01 AMpretty green:
Winner of the day:
www.youtube.com/watch
and then there is Rubix:
www.alltooflat.com/pranks/cube/
and then the CUTE one:
www.inhabitat.com/2007/10/2...na-tokodi/
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