Howdy, Symon here - just checking in and saying hi.

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posted by:
Tricky Bacon
SF Bay Area
  • Re: New member saying hi...

    Mon, May 26, 2008 - 11:40 AM
    Welcome to the tribe, Symon. Tell us what you're looking for amongst these fabulous people in this tribe (or the world in general). What's your story? I hope others will tell their stories, too. People keep joining but don't poke their heads out!
    • Re: New member saying hi...

      Wed, May 28, 2008 - 7:05 AM
      OK, here goes - I suppose I am just trying to find some people who feel the same way about sex and friendship that I do. I'm bisexual, yes - but I'm very different than other bisexual men I have met. I don't think I really fit into any sort of "scene", even here in the Bay Area.

      I've always kept my friends and lovers in separate groups, mainly because in my personal experience I've found that if you sleep with your friends, eventually they stop being your friends and things just end up getting weird. I'm hoping that this can be challenged simply by choosing different friends (I don't really have an bisexual friends that I know of; everyone professeses to being either straight or gay).

      I am not part of any bisexual political agenda - I simply enjoy sex and intimacy and all of the connections that can develop from just hanging out with someone and discovering who they are, regardless of gender.

      I am most attracted to very masculine men (facial hair, average bodies, blue-collar types) and very feminine women (skirts, nice legs, long hair, perfume, etc). Yum!

      I've never had any luck meeting lovers on Tribe, but I still take a swing at it every once in awhile.

      Cheers!

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      • Re: New member saying hi...

        Sun, June 15, 2008 - 10:32 PM
        The bi scene is pretty weird here in that it doesn't really exist. There are a few groups out there but in general we are still the black sheep. It has gone so far as people who are openly bi getting heckled at 'gay' events. I am marching in this years pride parade in the bi contingency and am wondering if there will be any kind of flack. I think we, bi guys, are starting to get more accepted by the gay community but bi girls have more of a problem with the lesbians. Just my 2 cents here :)
        • Re: New member saying hi...

          Wed, June 18, 2008 - 5:48 PM
          >The bi scene is pretty weird here in that it doesn't really exist.

          I would beg to differ. As some have mentioned, babn.org is quite active. Also there is a nice bi dinner group that you can connect with at joniverse.info/bidinner.htm For the ladies, there is the notorious Chasing Amy group, but not being a woman, I don't have the link handy.

          >There are a few groups out there but in general we are still the black sheep.

          This I have to agree with. Like intersex and genderqueer, bisexuality doesn't fit with the binary systems that most people have grown to know and love. Perhaps this will change, with time.

          >It has gone so far as people who are openly bi getting heckled at 'gay' events.

          Again, this is the price of admission for the bi vanguard in the gay and lesbian establishment.

          >I am marching in this years pride parade in the bi contingency and am wondering if there will be any kind of flack.

          Marching in a pride parade is an invitation for flack for anyone. So much more so for bisexuals. We all sort of take turns marching and taking flack. Burnout is de rigeur, but there are many ways to be a bi activist. Some of us cycle through the roles and thereby avoid it.

          >I think we, bi guys, are starting to get more accepted by the gay community but bi girls have more of a problem with the lesbians. Just my 2 cents here :)

          Hm. It's always tricky to compare oppressions. I'm more of a mind to describe my experience these days and leave others to describe thiers.

          That said, it is my opinion that bi guys overall have to be one of the most closeted species on the planet.

          Then again, porn stars, VIPs, and vulcan mind masters seem to do alright nonetheless. I've often wondered how life might have been different with a 10" cock, a trust fund, and a more charismatic personality. But then I digress... ;)
          • Re: New member saying hi...

            Thu, June 26, 2008 - 8:09 AM
            Yeah, I've pretty much given up on being "out" in San Francisco. I continue to live two lives, and I've just gotten used to it. It feels normal to me now.

            One thing I do differently though, as I have aged, is that I no longer try to hide my bisexuality from women I meet. What this means is that, in my experience, the women are intrigued, then they move on and that is the end of it. We are simply friends going forward, and no sexual relationship develops. I don't go out of my way to be repulsive or shocking about it, I'm very matter-of-fact, but it does not seem to matter. I meet reasonably attractive, single women all the time and they express interest until they find out I'm bisexual, then they vanish.

            I've given up trying to figure it out and I suppose it's very possible that my days as a truly "practicing" bisexual are over. Just wondering of other older bisexual guys have had the same experience..? I still think of myself as physically attractive, charming, and interesting, but women seem to feel differently - AFTER they find out I'm bi. Does not seem to have anything to do with my age (46), as I once suspected when someone told me "San Francisco is a city for young sinlges with money".

            I feel like a leper sometimes. I suppose the situation might be different if I had a million tattoos, liked to beat people with leather whips, or had a three-pound steel ring hanging out of my nose, but I'm just not into that stuff, having tried it when I was younger and no longer finding it interesting.

            I love sexy women, handsome rugged men, intelligent conversation, sensuality, openness, and sex. Apparently that's out of fashion in San Francisco? Not sure, but that's how it feels more and more.

            Friends have advised me to begin meeting women from outside the U.S, which is starting later this year when I travel overseas, so we'll see.

            -->S.
            • Re: New member saying hi...

              Sun, June 29, 2008 - 6:30 PM
              Good for you, tricky for at least being upfront with women you meet about being bi. I think if anyone has anything a little out of the norm (sexual preferences, important fetishes, STDs and a long list of important shit) that you really need to tell those you are seeing. I've often reported that my husband told me in the very first e-mail he sent me that he was bi. I figured I may as well see if I like this guy and the fact that he is aware of his sexuality and not afraid to admit it is just that much sexier to me.

              I'd advise continuing with your honesty--the right woman will be grateful that you didn't hide that part of yourself.
              • Re: New member saying hi...

                Mon, June 30, 2008 - 11:02 AM
                <<the fact that he is aware of his sexuality and not afraid to admit it is just that much sexier to me. I'd advise continuing with your honesty--the right woman will be grateful that you didn't hide that part of yourself.>>

                I agree. While I don't necessarily go out of my way looking for bi men, I have to say that hearing a man I'm interested in tell me he's bi is a huge turn on precisely because I know he's at least that self aware and honest with himself and has had the courage to do some experimentation and take ownership of it.
                • Re: New member saying hi...

                  Mon, June 30, 2008 - 11:27 AM
                  gotta say that my experience is similar to tricks (re - mentioning bi to gals). but thanx so much for letting us know that there ARE open minded gals out there. ive gotta agree with the show-your-hand-right-off sentiment... it is almost impossible to play-the-bi-card once youve met/greeted a woman for more than a few minutes and she assumes youre hetero.

                  interestingly - since this is a group for meeting couples - i guess the same advice applies - but it gets even a little trickier. in particular - i am not a 50-50 bi guy, i definitely lean more towards guys (they are easier to deal with for me). i havent even really TRIED to negotiate a meet/greet with a RL couple because i cannot imagine a scenario where the gal would feel comfortable with me.

                  so, help a bi-guy out, should i focus more - or less - on the gal; when trying to meet a couple? im sure the answer is individually dependant - but ill take any individual experiences/preferences i hear about and try to learn... always trying to learn (and have fun).

                  hugs, harold.
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                    Re: New member saying hi...

                    Mon, June 30, 2008 - 12:29 PM
                    I'd say it depends on the couple.

                    For you, I think you should probably focus more on the guy, because that is your more honest intention. No point in sending mixed signals. I would definitely prefer a guy who was really into my man, like I am. That would actually rank somebody pretty damn high in my book, now that I think about it. Impress me by impressing him.

                    We've all got egos. Don't ignore either side of the couple. Simple politeness and respect goes a long way.

                    The funny thing is that I doubt I could ever date a couple. I would pay way too much attention to the guy, too. But I am nowhere near being 50/50 bi either - I also definitely lean more towards guys because they are easier to deal with!

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