Weight gain after intensive weekends - what's going on?

topic posted Mon, June 15, 2009 - 3:38 AM by  Melanie
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Something clicked in February and since then I've been slowly but surely losing weight. However, I find after an intensive weekend, I gain weight. After 9 hours of dance at Majma, I gained 3 kilos (6.6 lbs) and after 15.5 hours dancing and exercise at Raqs Britannia, I was up 4 kilos (8.8 lbs). It's a double set-back, because not only have I not lost weight, I then have to try to lose that weight again! It should in theory be easy, because the body is supposed to continue to burn fat well after intensive exercise. However, this week I have only lost a kilo (2.2 lbs) of the 4 that I gained.

I find that I don't eat much on these weekends, and have a hard time drinking enough to stay hydrated. My friend and my partner, both of whom have biology related degrees, think that it has to do with fluid build up in the joints and muscles and the building of muscle, which is heavier than fat. I certainly notice the muscle after these weekends - you could bounce rocks off my pecs at the moment!

Sorry, this sounds a bit whingey, but I feel sabotaged by my body. It's very disheartening to have worked so hard and see the needle on the scales go the wrong way! Does anyone else find this, and more importantly, any advice, tips, tricks which will help?
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  • Does anyone else find this?
    Yup...I am one of those people who fluctuates 3 to 4 pounds daily and could easily pile on 15lbs ( or lose if I'm on the hyper mode) in a month. While my picture does not display a big girl...I assure you I am at 5'7" and 175lbs and couldn't get into a size 12 in my life depended on it. I am just fortunate to be extremely wide. It takes almost 25lbs for me to drop 1 size. My culprit is my thyroid, fluctuating estrogen levels and a propensity to build and lose muscle at a lightening speed due to other fun hormones. *In* a perfect world, you exercise real hard, watch what you eat and easily obtain (as well as maintain) a perfect figure. So the skinny gals and doctors tell us. LOL In the real world...your body must function properly for this to happen.

    Building muscle will def add to the scales ( good ), becoming dehydrated will cause you to lose ( bad) but I don't think I need to tell you that. Ideally though... after intensive exercise you should lose weight and ( simultaneously) build muscle. However, if you don't eat and dehydrate yourself, the body can go into a preservation mode drawing more caloric intake from what you do eat and it may remain for awhile.

    I am not a dietician nor a physican but any time there is a dramatic gain or loss of the type you mention in a very minimal amount of time, I would be concerned about a potential health issue. It's possible you may be fighting a losing battle and it is worth checking in to. And yes...I know how difficult it is to go to a doctor and broach the subject because of a perpetual bias and grand assumptions. Let them say what they will but they cannot deny you testing. And sigh...get those results in your hands. GPs are NOT Endocrinologists.

    What works for me as far as weight loss (oddly enough) is intensive exercise over a period of a week or two along with increasing my caloric intake and making sure I stay hydrated. My body gets hungry from all that work and I listen to it. At least, that's what is working for me now. Sigh!
    • I'm seconding Anne Marie's suggestion to ask your doc. Before I read how much weight you'd gained in kilos, I was going to say "muscle mass," but that seems like a bit too much for new muscle. Another issue may be that you didn't eat much on these weekends. It sounds counterintuitive, but your body will often hang on to weight if it doesn't get enough food - it's worried it might starve and need something to live off of. Still, neither of those would really explain 8 pounds, in my mind. I'd ask a doctor. It can't hurt to consult your GP just because you're trying to lose weight, too. My health care provider has been really pushing their "lifestyle wellness" plan lately, which is an exercise/nutrition plan for folks of all sizes. I think it's a lovely idea, since most diets out there on the market aren't really well-informed.
  • OMG weird you should mention this. Both a friend of mine & I have noticed that after Suhaila weekend workshops we weigh a few pounds more than before. It makes no sense... I mean I doubt I've built up THAT much muscle in a weekend doing the things we do in class every week anyway, and I don't usually feel like eating a ton after exerting myself that much and I am drinking a lot but I've got to be sweating out at least as much as I'm putting in.
    • I have the same experience...of course, the prerequisite "ask your Dr." is first and best advice...I believe (in my case....not everyone's) that the difference is I don't graze all day, I drink less, and therefore, my body must think...OMG...slow metabolism DOWN so that we will survive the next month without any food... This would mean that I haven't evolved as far as I would like to believe...but, there was a time that "people" would eat sporadically, and this caused their bodies to conserve fat, energy, etc...to survive until the next meal. I guess to test this hypothesis...I would have to really make sure I ate a couple of small protein snacks, drank plenty of water, and see if I still gained the weight. I gain 5-9 lbs every weekend, but, by Tuesday or Wednesday, I've lost the weight. I've probably gained and lost at least a ton altogether!
  • Honestly, I would suggest that it's simply stress.

    You may not feel stressed out, but if the weekend is as intense as you say, and your body isn't used to that intensity every weekend, it's probably producing additional cortisol, which helps the body keep weight on. (Packed away for storage until stressful times are over.)

    That's my thought.
    • Before I started with the weight loss thing (it's not a diet, diet is a four letter word) I did indeed visit my GP and had blood tests, and she let me see my results too, so I know for sure that everything is fine (thyroid, blood sugars, etc), but I'm menopausal, so that won't help.

      Hmm, yeah, I think the stress-starvation-preservation thing has something going for it, although you're right, I don't feel stressed (having a fantastic time, but completely knackered!). I don't feel like eating much when I'm doing that much exercise during the day, and I tend to drink in sips, otherwise belly rolls are accompanied by a strange sloshing sound ...!

      So I'm not the only one who finds themselves heavier after lots of exercise. Those of you who also find this, do you do anything or have to work to knock the weight off, or do you find it just disappears by itself?

      Thanks for your responses so far. They don't shift the reading on the scales, but they make me feel better! Keep 'em coming!

      • Well, there's stress "I'm gonna tear my hair out and I'm losing sleep," and then there's stress "I'm putting my body through something it isn't used to." You can be physically stressed without feeling emotionally stressed.

        Since you may find fat replacing itself with muscle during your weight loss/heavy dancing, you might rely on your eyes more than your scale. I have actually gained weight during the course of my intensive dancing, but I can see visually that it is muscular and that my body has moved around a bit (for example, I now have I waist!) and so I'm aware that what the scale is telling me isn't necessarily what is going on. There are ways to measure this, like body-fat measurement, but I'm sort of of the opinion that we know our own bodies well enough to gauge when muscles are appearing, know what I mean?
        • You're so right. Definitely physically stressed during the RB weekend. I got about 4 miles from home on Friday morning, tootling down my local country lanes here, which had recently had chippings (road gravel) spread on them. I put a wheel off the left hand edge of the road, which spun me across the road, up the hedgebank and rolled the car! I wasn't going very fast, so I got away with some scratches and bruises, but the old car's written off. I roll better than it does! The bruising was from the seatbelt and steering wheel and was quite colourful during the weekend, but I don't think I have ever healed so fast - only a week later, it was scarcely visible. I think perhaps getting the muscles warm and the blood flowing probably helped a lot, and having an exciting weekend and lovely company (a friend of mine drove us up to Blackpool and back) meant that I could be happy and forget about the accident. But it would perhaps have exacted its price on the preservation side.

          My OH has made complimentary comments after these intensive weekends about which bits have tightened up and moved round, so he can certainly see the difference! And I notice the difference in my body, in terms of muscle tone, strength and openness. Perhaps that's more important, but I do like to see the scales reading less too. There's still such a long way to go.
  • first off when you do not drink enough water and stay hydrated..your body will try to retain water....if you do not eat enough food, your metabolism slows down..its a double edged sword....

    you need to eat enough to maintain your metabolism...but not too much. you need to find out your bmr (basic metabolic rate) and lets say it says you should eat 2000 calories a day to maintain your weight...drop that by 1-200 calories and eat at that calorie deficit for 2 weeks..if you still dont lose weight, drop it another 100. remember this, when you do a calorie deficit like this, it wont happen the next day..your body does not work in 24 hr periods, give it a week or two.

    you also need to be eating the RIGHT foods. carbs are your friend, but healthy carbs.....sugar is great for you if your eating ehalthy non processed sugar like a banana, some raspberries.....not cookies.

    a common myth is that cardio makes you lose weight..any exercise in general helps BUT...you will burn fat, boost your metabolism and drop lbs FASTER with weight /resistance training rather than cardio and dance is cardio so if you really want to drop lbs, add that in to your workout.

    look up BMR calculator to find out what your daily calories should be to maintain...and drop it. and make a profile on fitday.com and log your food.....most ppl eat more calories than they realize.

    now with the bmr and calorie deficit you do need to learn your own body...for me with my bmr it said if i ate 2300 calories a day i would lose weight...that didnt work fo rme...eventually i found out that right now for my size if i eat 1900 calories a day i am energized, healthy an dlosing 1-2lbs a week consistantly.

    their are 3 basic body types...endo, ecto and mesomorph......over weight ppl are generally endo what this means is that for your body type, your body almost finds it easier to be overweight..thats my body type as well. ecto's cant get fat if they wanted too lol. lucky asses....meso's are lucky, they build muscle fast and stay lean.........so for women like us prone to being overweight, its a matter of eating healthy, steady exercise, staying hydrated and being consistent.

    i am by no means saying dont eat cookies or cake......im saying if you wnt to eat a cookie, fine....but only eat one or two and dont do it every day. moderation is key to a healthier lifestyle.

    whole grains instead of white over processed junk like white bread etc etc....

    plenty of veggies especially ones with fiber like broccoli

    healthy fats like almonds, peanut butter, olive oil instead of butter

    balanced meals that have a good protein, good carbs, veggies., good fat....


    ultimately DIET trumps exercise in weight loss...you can workout all you want, if you eat like crap you will be overweight.....if you never exercise but eat really healthy, you can be thin...your diet is the most important.

    and never do crasah diets...they last for a few weeks. its about a healthy lifestyle change and learning to keep the bad foods in moderation and liberate the healthy ones.
    • one more thing it is very common for our weight to fluctuate during the day and even 2-4 lbs during the week. nine times out of ten that is water weight. you shoul donly weight yourself at the very most once a week and make it the same day..measurements are what really dictate your fat loss, not weight....get a measuring tape and record your measurements. sometimes your measurements drop inches while your weight stays put
    • <you will burn fat, boost your metabolism and drop lbs FASTER with weight /resistance training rather than cardio>

      I was under the impression that only cardio actually burns fat. Otherwise you end up with beautiful muscle enveloped by all your remaining fat. Is this one of those long-standing myths… or do I have my facts wrong?
      • when you do cardio you burn off muscle as well as fat..problem with that is that the more lean muscle you have, the more fat you burn off daily ...so in essence it will slow down your loss after awhile.

        when lifting weights and resistance if you life super heavy for short reps of say 4-5..you ill build bulky mass...

        when you do medium weights at 12-15 reps you build lean muscle, which burns fat faster and is not bulky or "big" its a big misconception that if you lift weights you get big...that only happens if you lift at a lower rep range. when you lift at higher reps you build lean muscle and stamina vs bulking.

        cardio is good 1-2x a week but mostly HIIT cardio. (high intensity interval training) look that up online and you'll find tons of example........one quick one. sprinting ...sprint for 20 second..walk it off...sprint again..walk it off....

        i know a few bodybuilders and they straightened me out with the miconception that cardio up the ass will make yous kinny...if you are really overweight, any exercise will help you burn weight but ultimately weight training is proven to burn more off than just doing cardio. once they sorta set me stright and showed me "this type of weight training makes you bulky..and this kind of weight training makes lean muscle and burns fat" i have been losing tons easier....i startd out a size 18, im at a size 12 now..i dont do crazy diets. i just eat healthy and balanced and the bad tuff in moderation and i do weight/resistance combined with dancing (cardio) and yoga for flexiblity (yoga is a dancers best friend lol)
        • bodybuilders.com

          that site is not just bodybuilders, its mostly women who want to be fit and in shape....they have EXCELLENT advice. helped me a lot. ive struggled with my weight my entire life...ive been all over the scales. and right now im not some size 2 girl..but ive dropped a lot following advice from that site and my friends.

          btw when i say medium weights at 12-15 reps.....roughly my weights are 25lbs. thats a good starter. i know women who are lean...fit..but not bulky or muscular and they life free weights at 55 each....but they do them in medium to high reps...not short. thats why you see big guys going grrrrr trying ot do 2 reps of something super heavy. that is what builds bulkyness.


          but none of this matters if you dont eat healthy. its the most important part by far
  • One of the best things I did for myself was throw my scale away. Really, truly.
    • I'd have to go to rehab...don't know if I could lose the obsession with numbers. I don't blame the media, I don't blame outside factors...this is purely an "Etta" issue. It's a real problem...seriously. I weigh myself everyday. I KNOW this is bad bad BAD....but, I guess since I've lost so much weight, I'm afraid of letting it creep back on...mental. Mental. Something I just have to work on. Do others have strategies on how to just blow the scales up and stay on track?
      • I had issues with myself and my weight UNTIL I threw out my scale. Then my focus turned from the numbers to being a healthy and strong woman. I soon after felt thinner, stronger, and watched my clothing size drop. I was never a size 2 when I monitored my weight all the time. Our bodies change throughout our lives especially as women. Linking our emotional perspective to how much we weigh is a dangerous process. This is coming from a dancer whom had eating disorders in order to try to look like the ballet dancers I wanted to be and never could emulate. I can't stress enough how freeing and good for my soul it was to rid myself of the scale psychological war. Ya just gotta do it. =)
        • I 100% agree with Aubre. Throw that sucker away and go by how you feel and trust me when you are no longer stressing and having hours of inner dialog tearing you apart over a number you will feel better. I wouldn't comment on what people should or shoudn't eat or how much they should do weights or yoga or cardio along with bellydance because we are all different and what works for one may not work for another. I'm being straight when I tell you that when I threw my scale away my waist size seemed to shrink and I just felt better. Physically and mentally. ( i dont' think my post has anything to do with weight gain after intensive weekends--sorry I just had 2 cents)
      • Etta –

        Be aware and really "discover" that weight does NOT tell you everything.

        You can gain muscle, lose inches, lose several sizes and not lose a single pound. Your measurements can change up to 2 inches and you could still find that you haven't lost a single pound.

        By the same token… you can stay at this weight and still gain fat or lose muscle. That's not so good.

        I take my measurements once a month. That way I can tell if I've had a good month or a bad month. I do occasionally weigh myself, but not terribly regularly.
  • It may acutally be just muscle gain....Sometimes when you think muscle gain you think arms or stomach but in an intensive bellydance workout you are working your whole body and if your whole body is adding on muscle then it would sound about right and it would not be super noticeable either. I never check a scale for weight loss as it might be actual muscle as muscle weighs more than fat and not fat.I use a fashion design,measuring meter.

    If the dance was that intensive then your body may have tried to hold on to weight but it would have been no way it would have been able to keep it as it would have had to been used just to keep you going.

    You should try gatorade for dehydration in order to be hydrated you need a correct amount of sugar and salt integrated back into your body, water will not cut it.
    • i really second tossing your scale.

      measurements are ten times more reliable......measurements and your clothing size...screw the scale...

      just look up those body types and they will describe it to you so you know what you are. its pretty much broken down super skinny, can never gain fat or muscle...ecto......overweight, fat around your midsection, almost impossible to lose weight and sooo easy to gain, endo.........naturally lean but with lean muscle, the l ucky ppl..meso....

      its hard for anyone to lose weight but when you have the endo its even harder. thats what i am. if i cheat for 2 days, ill gain 10lbs easy...but if im hardcore for 2 days..ill lose half a pound lol. just how it goes. sucks but hey...at least i got good t&a rofl. i would hate to be an ecto anyways. best belly dancerrs got something to shake !8shimmy shimmy8 lol.


      one bi thing...its so simple...drink more water! if you do not exercise at all, you need at least 8 glass of water a day......pretty much you should drink a gallon of water a day hands down. if your piss is nto clear, you not fully hydrated. its revs up your metabolism, your body doesnt hold onto water weight, your skin is healthier, your hair...its a win iwn....
      • btw gatorade is good if you have nothing else around you.....but if you do have a healthy well balanced snack ready after a workout (you should intake protein right after a workout. sugar right before) then dont dirnk gatorade..only drink gatorade if you dont have a good meal ready.......if you have a good meal that is balancedw ith healthy sugar, lots or protein and healthy carbs, just water is fine.


        honestly....do not worry about salt........even ppl who eat healthy usualy go over the recommended daily amount for sodium without realizing it. and their is sugar in just about everything.

        one of the biggest mistakes ppl make is not eating enough protein and veggies. carbs are good, but you should not be eating nothing but carbs.

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