lagina.org

topic posted Sun, August 19, 2007 - 4:01 PM by  Phileremon
www.lagina.org/

"Sacred precinct of the Goddess Hekate."

There is a gallery section of 363 photos in flash format. The photos show the recent excavation and restoration work that was done there.

However, if you want to browse the photos themselves, here are direct links:

www.lagina.org/gallery/photos/rsz_0.jpg - www.lagina.org/gallery/ph...rsz_362.jpg


The photos are stunning- a must see!
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    Sat, August 25, 2007 - 3:35 PM
    Thanx alot dude!! Super interesting, and it,s been hard finding pictures from this site. Does the excavation take place right now? Im planning to go to Lagina perhaps this winter but more likely next year. Looked the place up on google earth but is not sure just what i am looking at or where exactly the location is. The whole area is full of digging sites it looks like.

    The pictures are a blessing! I find the crosses very interesting. I knew the cross was very important in this but not to this extent. I also find the other symbols interesting, will post a painting to my photo album soon and boy it,s weird.. because i have included symbols very similar! The axes are interesting too.. The same ones or similar is present on crete.
    Who is the bearded guy, posseidon?

    I wonder what the inscriptions are saying.

    What about this? :/

    www.lagina.org/gallery/album0.html


    Odd with all the symbolism at the end of the album. Well got to purchase that dvd now :P Ciao. Thanx!!!
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      Sun, August 26, 2007 - 7:56 AM
      Hi Henrik.

      Yes, I agree with you about the dearth of information available on Lagina. It's a shame, in my opinion, given it's importance in relation to Hekate.

      I believe the excavation and restoration of the site may be done.

      If you want a detailed map, take a look at this one. www.travelbodrum.com/image/muglamap.gif
      It shows the Mugla province of southwest Turkey. Lagina is in the upper left part of the map, northwest of Yatagan.

      In your reference to the bearded guy, I suppose you mean this one? www.lagina.org/gallery/photos/rsz_68.jpg
      I'm not certain if it depicts a human or deity. If human, it may depict one of the Seleucus rulers responsible for the Lagina construction. However, it may be Zeus, as the east frieze from the sanctuary shows various scenes from the life of Zeus.
      Also, as you may know, Lagina was the religious center of Caria, while 11 kilometers to the south, Stratonikeia was the political center. I believe Zeus was the Deity of Stratonikeia - He did have a temple there. See www.sitesandphotos.com/catalo...47.html

      More material on Lagina and Stratonikeia here: www.akyaka.org/tarih/history/mugla.html


      There is an article from Bulletin de correspondance hellénique. Volume 11, 1887, "Inscriptions de Lagina" by Charles Diehl and Georges Cousin about the Lagina inscriptions. www.persee.fr/showPage.do
      I don't read French, so I can't tell you much about it.


      One interesting thing I just ran across regarding Hekate and Zeus was "Battlefield Epiphanies in Ancient Greece: A Survey"

      "Reports of battlefield epiphanies - by which I mean appearances of
      gods and heroes on the battlefield during combat - recur in ancient accounts of
      Greek military campaigns. Based on the data collected in Chapter II of the
      third volume of W.K.Pritchett’s study of The Greek State at War (Berkeley
      1979), a list may be compiled of up to 22 such episodes."

      www.digressus.org/articles/...heeler.pdf

      Specifically I found this fascinating:

      23. Stratonikeia, ?40BC. Zeus and Hekate may have appeared on the battlefield, perhaps during Labenius’ invasion. Source and doxography: Pritchett, 39.

      22. Lagina, ?early First Century BC. Hekate may have appeared in a time of crisis. Source and doxography: Pritchett, 38.



      I'm saving up for trip to Lagina. Hopefully in a year or two.
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        Sun, September 2, 2007 - 3:25 AM
        Thanx, now I know exactly where Lagina is located. Will post a google earth picture in the gallery.

        About the bearded man, lagina.org sugest it,s zeus.


        From www.akyaka.org/tarih/history/mugla.html
        In the east, scenes from the life of Zeus; on the west, the battle between gods and giants; on the south, the meeting of Carian deities; on the north the battle of Amazons).

        Im very curious about the crosses in the Lagina pictures. Would there be any connection to this? Note the cross. Also crossroads.
        www.beazley.ox.ac.uk/diction...body.asp

        **There is an article from Bulletin de correspondance hellénique. Volume 11, 1887, "Inscriptions de Lagina" by Charles Diehl and Georges Cousin about the Lagina inscriptions. www.persee.fr/showPage.do I don't read French, so I can't tell you much about it.

        Thanx!! Perhaps a friend of mine can help out translating it. She is an French to English translator.

        Interesting about the battlefield interventions. Also the connection to Zeus and Lagina.

        `` : Hesiod's Theogony contains a hymn to Hekate that praises her as second only to Zeus in divine importance. Was this strange exaltation of a minor goddess based on Hesiod's personal religious practices? Was it a poetic device? An interpolation by a member of some unknown Hekate sect? No one knows.´´

        So you are planning on going there Philermon? Perhaps we could join up or discuss the subject further? I was in turkey year 2001. Would be fun to gather a larger group and go there.
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          Wed, September 26, 2007 - 10:51 AM
          **Breaktrought** Something totaly interesting with beautifull pictures!! Pictures speaks more then words :-) Taken by Filton College study tour in 2005.

          clairecox.org/turkey2005_2/

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            Thu, September 27, 2007 - 12:54 PM
            Fantastic! Thanks for the link, Henrik. :)
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              Sat, December 29, 2007 - 4:58 PM
              One day i would like to go on a turkey grand tour. Starting out in Istanbul, and checking out the old ruins of constantinople. Then moving down towards the mugla province. There is something to see everywhere in turkey. I would map all the places out in advance. getting up early in the morning everyday :-P Im sure there are plenty more about Hekate to discover ( we are talking statue pictures here) then what we can dig up from the internet and books. The Lagina site seems a bit complicated to reach tought i would deffinately try.

              The field trip where i got the pictures seems like a good alternative. It,s a different country once one get,s out of the turist parts.. even dangerous so a group is deffinately preferable i think.

              Tought if i ever got to the temple cite i would like to spend atleast a whole day and then sleeping over there. Dark moon ritual and the whole set!

              At present day there is this pond of water there.. it would be interesting to sit there scrying into the water. Because i believe that pond, even tought it,s not intended to a start, is very powerfull. A bit like the lake avernus in Italy.

              Preferably leaving sacrifices there would be good since there seems to be a post- modern altar added there.

              Crusade anyone?

              Hmm.. guess i have to settle with an themed meditation, tought that works too!!

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                Fri, February 8, 2008 - 3:32 PM
                Looks like things are going my way here.. I recently got a new friend in Turkey. Due to privacy concearns i cant give out details, but she partaked at the Lagina temple as a part of her studies in archeology. She has offered to help me, and has also offered me a guest room in Turgut. So it looks like i will be heading there this summer ( cant say im not nervous) I will then take alot of pictures, especially down to details and inscriptions and post them here. Will look into if anything is written that has not been published. I will also ( if possible) try to pick things up psychic aswell.
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                  Sat, February 9, 2008 - 12:41 PM
                  www.youtube.com/watch (from 2007) Lagina excavation.
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                    Sat, February 9, 2008 - 1:01 PM
                    fen.selcuk.edu.tr/arkeoloji...alan_1.asp A true treasure!! Check it out :-)

                    www.mugla-turizm.gov.tr/en/14120.asp About Lagina

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                    cat.une.edu.au/page/lagina

                    The sanctuary of Hekate at Lagina and the tombs and settlements along the sacred way have been investigated since 1993 by Ahmet Tırpan of Selçuk University. The sanctuary is located in the mountains of Caria, north of Yatağan, and the sacred way leads southwards to the city of Stratonikeia. The pseudo-dipteros temple with Corinthian columns dates to the later 2nd century BC but coins found at the site indicate the sanctuary dates back to the 4th century. This is a salvage project as the remains are threatened by coal mining.

                    In 2006 soundings were made in the area of the west stoa to reach the original agora. However, the extensive deposits of the Byzantine reuse resulted in only small areas of the original buildings being located. Soundings were also made outside the propylon, where a small vaulted structure was found. It was built during the Roman period but was later converted to use as a church.

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                    Article from 2002
                    5,000-year-old ancient city discovered in Yatagan

                    Archaeologists have discovered part of the large ancient city of Koranza, also known as Lagina, in Yatagan, Mugla. According to archaeologists, the temple of Hakete, discovered during excavations in the Lagina region, is part of the ancient city.
                    Professor Ahmet Tirpan of Sulcuk University said that they have uncovered important findings during this year's excavations. Pointing out that they began the current excavations in 1975, which were was first launched by Osman Hamdi Bey and Halil Ethem Bey in 1891, Tirpan said: "According to the archaeological and physiographical findings we have obtained so far, this ancient site has been inhabited since 3000 B.C.. According to these findings, the site known as the Lagina Haketa Holy Place neighbored an ancient city. According to epitaphs, this ancient city's name was Koranza. However, when the Lagina Hakete temple gained in importance after the third century, it began to be known as Lagina. Today, this place is known as Turgut in Turkish."
                    Tirpan said that the artifacts found in Lagian were created by the Karya civilization, which settled in the Aegean region around 2000 B.C.. He said they had a different alphabet and language and that there were some epitaphs that have yet to be decoded. Pointing out that the Hakete Temple in Lagina was the biggest temple built for the goddess Hakete, Tirpan said that they have also discovered chapels belongs to the early Christian era. He added that the colorful plaster on the walls and the coins belonging to the 4th century B.C. were proof of this synthesis.

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