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i made this syrup for a winter time immune stuff. my girls deal with chronic infections, vaginal and viral .... i feel l-o-w energy and slow, and most of us (not the girls, but my husband and son and i) have asthma issues.
i think these problems stem from the mold issue a year or so back, and considering the problem, it isn't totally resolved in the basement- part of it is dirt floor :(
BUT now i am thinking, even though the syrup made with honey and elecampane tincture added to it is so damn good, that the sweet of it may be contradictory?
honey has it's healing virtues, is it still a concern with yeasty stuff?
i do know that my 2 yr old had a runny nose for four days, maybe five.... lots of mucus, clear, running freely. i had started out giving her elder flower, even though there was no fever. it stopped the nose, but then it sounded like it had just plugged her nose, because i could hear it in her head when she talked..... i just let her nose run after that....but it wouldn't cease or slow.
the girls sounded like they were catching a respiratory thing.... even though i had been giving them elecampane at times and then a combo of thyme and monarda at other times to prevent that.
i made the syrup anyway, thinking i shouldn't be giving astragalus if they were already sick.... but there was no fever so i gave it anyway... and the next day- no runny nose and we started getting all better.
and it is just so good, but i do wonder about the sweetness of it- even if it is just honey.
i wish i knew more about diabetes. this sounds like a good mix for that, but then it seems that the sweet would be an issue there too.....
any thoughts?
i think these problems stem from the mold issue a year or so back, and considering the problem, it isn't totally resolved in the basement- part of it is dirt floor :(
BUT now i am thinking, even though the syrup made with honey and elecampane tincture added to it is so damn good, that the sweet of it may be contradictory?
honey has it's healing virtues, is it still a concern with yeasty stuff?
i do know that my 2 yr old had a runny nose for four days, maybe five.... lots of mucus, clear, running freely. i had started out giving her elder flower, even though there was no fever. it stopped the nose, but then it sounded like it had just plugged her nose, because i could hear it in her head when she talked..... i just let her nose run after that....but it wouldn't cease or slow.
the girls sounded like they were catching a respiratory thing.... even though i had been giving them elecampane at times and then a combo of thyme and monarda at other times to prevent that.
i made the syrup anyway, thinking i shouldn't be giving astragalus if they were already sick.... but there was no fever so i gave it anyway... and the next day- no runny nose and we started getting all better.
and it is just so good, but i do wonder about the sweetness of it- even if it is just honey.
i wish i knew more about diabetes. this sounds like a good mix for that, but then it seems that the sweet would be an issue there too.....
any thoughts?
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Re: some thoughts on my winter syrup : burdock, licorice, astragalus, (elecampane)
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 5:04 PMThe syrup sounds good. For folks with blood sugar issues, a decoction is a better choice. As for the honey being contraindicated with a cold/flu, as long as there are not blood sugar issues, a little honey in syrup is fine, actually part of the medicine.
If you are dealing with chronic infections, you may want to look more closely at the root cause, which is probably not honey in a little syrup taken as medicine. One of the most nourishing and energizing herbs is nettle, when prepared as a long steep infusion (4-8 hours).
So as I respond, I realize I am not exactly sure what you are wanting to know. But hopefully that is helpful and perhaps others will have thoughts. But if you have more clarity, you may want to express that as well.
Blessings
Linda
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Re: some thoughts on my winter syrup : burdock, licorice, astragalus, (elecampane)
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 5:44 PMhaha, i write as i think, and it gets all muddled.
my girls are prone to get itchy in the privates after sugary stuffs. i made the syrup as a winter immune 'tonic' and hoping that it could help allay that problem as well, as the burdock is great at dealing with yeasty issues. but then i wonder if the honey sweetness would cancel out the help there.....
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Re: some thoughts on my winter syrup : burdock, licorice, astragalus, (elecampane)
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 6:06 PMOne thing that I make and ingest on a regular basis are burdock pickles. I learned to make these from a woman I apprenticed with years ago in the Pacific Northwest. Many of her students make this. The brine has 1/3 organic raw apple cider vinegar, 1/3 tamari and 1/3 burdock steaming water. So I steam sliced burdock (sliced like coins) and then with a little garlic and ginger I put them in a jar. Then when the steaming water has cooled (so as not to destroy the benefits of the raw vinegar), I pour the brine over the burdock. Let this steep for a week or two..longer if you can wait. Then eat a few at least a day, although it is hard not to eat more. Anway this may be of benefit to your daughters.
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Re: some thoughts on my winter syrup : burdock, licorice, astragalus, (elecampane)
Fri, November 6, 2009 - 9:20 AMit sounds wonderful, and i'll try it and let you know how it goes. i am a bit skeptical if they'll eat them though, but it is totally worth the try :)
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Re: some thoughts on my winter syrup : burdock, licorice, astragalus, (elecampane)
Fri, November 6, 2009 - 11:10 AMKeep us posted on whether or not they like them....they are suprisingly tasty. Most adults really like them, but that can be a total different story with children.
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Re: some thoughts on my winter syrup : burdock, licorice, astragalus, (elecampane)
Fri, November 6, 2009 - 5:59 PMThis is not about syrup, but I was going to mention a recommendation with honey. It seems that combining honey with warm milk is a blend that provides the good enzymes a forum to nourish the body well. Of course, this is provided that one isn't lactose intolerant. Admittedly, I'm still in the learning stages of whether I should opt milk in my diet or not. I love cheese and eggs far too much to totally give up all dairy... -
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Re: some thoughts on my winter syrup : burdock, licorice, astragalus, (elecampane)
Fri, November 6, 2009 - 6:52 PMI was confused about this part of your post:
i made the syrup anyway, thinking i shouldn't be giving astragalus if they were already sick.... but there was no fever so i gave it anyway... and the next day- no runny nose and we started getting all better.
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Re: some thoughts on my winter syrup : burdock, licorice, astragalus, (elecampane)
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 7:01 AMThis is fascininating to me and very helpful...I am just coming through an apparent cold/flu and found the elecampane honey was
very helpful to support my lungs. I now see after reading your post that it probably helped to reduced my very runny nose.
I do think the wild rose tincture is helpful for this also. I am still taking the wild rose tincture and lomatium seed tincture with a little
elecampane honey in my tea in the morning. I am wondering if the lomatium seed honey would also be good. I am going to make some.
Linda, thanks for the recipe for burdock pickles. I have never made them, always opt for burdock vinegar because it is so wonderful.
I will post a photo of burdock gathered yesterday with my apprentices.
Green Blessings,
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Re: some thoughts on my winter syrup : burdock, licorice, astragalus, (elecampane)
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 1:37 PMhi moonica, astragalus is a prophylactic in the true sense.... it toughens the cell walls, so to say, so it makes it harder for the virus to 'invade'
if you have a fever, however, it can make the fever worse.
i guess really, that the fever is the contradiction and not sickness in general.
and julie, i'm not so sure myself that the elecampane had all that much to do with it. i had given her some here and there to stave off the respiratory thing and noticed nothing until i added the tincture to the syrup. but seriously when i gave the syrup, the runny nose was just gone.
like i said, the elder worked too, but i didn't like the way her head sounded with that. i can't wait to work with elder more and learn the intricacies of it's medicine.
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Re: some thoughts on my winter syrup : burdock, licorice, astragalus, (elecampane)
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 1:39 PMI'm a bit confused also. Astragulas is being purported as something that can combat swine flu successfully. Having both, a niece and a friend who have this, I've encouraged them both in this direction, as well as dandelion root. Perhaps we need a new thread to discuss this particular problem, which is causing a concern for many. Just curious... -
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Re: some thoughts on my winter syrup : burdock, licorice, astragalus, (elecampane)
Sun, November 8, 2009 - 10:04 AMlinda, i am about to make the pickles and just wanted to be sure that i wasn't canning in any way..... i do just let them steep, in a dark place?
thanks so much!
*and i was wondering, if i don't ferment my own vegetables... would store bought sauerkraut work, or where should i look for good sources? -
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Re: some thoughts on my winter syrup : burdock, licorice, astragalus, (elecampane)
Sun, November 8, 2009 - 3:43 PMHi Trish,
You wrote, "Astragulas is being purported as something that can combat swine flu successfully."
There is quite alot to discuss in your sentence...thanks for bringing up the issue.
I am not sure who is saying to utilize astragalus for "swine flu". There is alot of information out in the media
about treating illness with herbs.
It is important when reading herbal information to find out what part of the plant was used, whether it was fresh or dry.
How it was prepared and how the herbal preparation was made.
The flu, swine or any other is a virus and so anti-viral herbs can be utilized.
When you use the term "combat" it to brings to my mind the heroic tradition of healing and I feel fear.
I think I have to get rid of this and I will do whatever I can to do that.
When I focus on my health and know that whatever I experience can have wisdom to share, that I know how to help myself
and I know who to ask for help, then I start to trust again. This is the place I spend most of my time.
Trish, I am wondering if you could share some of your feelings about this issue with us.
That would help me understand more about you in regards to this issue.
Peace, Julie
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