my pain has been a source of knowledge giving me empathy to do my healing work. It seems that in the last few years, since life as I knew it for so many years blew up (divorce, child away at school, closest friend transferred to another city) the pain has been weighing me down more than I can bear. I am isolating on the days that I am not doing my healing for others and the only thing that keeps me going is the fact that I bring comfort to others. Some days I am not sure that it will be enough. My father committed suicide and that scares me. I am trying not to burden my child with this crap and my nuclear family is more hurtful than helpful. there is only so much my therapist can do- after all - this is someone who is paid to 'care' and we as healers know that you can't take it home with you. my cats help me along but the solitude is something I keep choosing cause the hurt is holding me down
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Sun, June 10, 2007 - 5:32 PMI know what you mean!
People just take from you, they have agendas and use you.
When they grow weary of you, they toss you aside like kleenex!
I have a few, very close friends and that's it.
I perfer to be alone then be in the comany of 'users'.
That's why people like us seek a home in the woods ALONE!
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Mon, June 11, 2007 - 8:12 AMHi Stacia
thanks for your thoughts. I am not sure if I feel used by some of the people that have come and gone from my life in the past. Rather for me it has been a feeling of not being able to cope with their particular challenges emotionally- just as I am sure people have chosen not to be around me for that reason as well. I don't have patience or tolerance on a social level for some of the dysfunction that seems to be rampant in the way people relate to each other. Dishonesty and passive aggressiveness abound in this culture and I don't like to relate to folks who relate to me that way.
My own propensity for speaking my truth has put many people off from me and sometimes I wish I were different cause I don't mean to be off putting. I try to think before I speak but many times I say what I think and then regret it. The critic in me that shouts to me of my own inadequacies sometimes surfaces about others even if I don't mean to hurt them with it.
I have had some folks use me in some ways and when I stop letting them, they disappear from my life- good riddance to them anyhow!
Actually I have been contemplating planning a retreat in the woods for myself for my 53rd birthday this September. I know what you mean about the woods being nurturing.
Thanks again for answering- I really needed some folks who understood to reach out to me and let me know that I have people in cyberspace who can relate
Jill
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Sun, June 10, 2007 - 10:30 PMdear jill-
find a new therapist. im going strickly on intuition here but frankly if you cant take it home with you, youre getting something you cant use.
im wondering - and again this is totally intuitive jill, ignore it if it doesnt apply - but i cant help but wonder if a spiritualist might be an indicated avenue to investigate at this point.
because here's what i know, for sure: it is when we get backed into a corner that our biggest shifts happen. it is when we face our darkest hours that find we have within us the strength to transcend.
it is when the bottom falls out, and we feel there is nothing solid for us to stand on that we learn we can fly.
there's nothing wrong with you jill. you have a huge soul to have chosen the path you are on. and youre ready now to find what is next.
and perhaps to do so, you will have to let go of what has come before.
there is nothing wrong with you jill. this is bigger than just you.
now is the time to do what you have putting off, to step into what has always lived in your heart and is now screaming to be free, to express.
i wish i could look you in the eye and tell you this. but i think you will know it to be so. your intuition is just fine.
look beyond what you can see. there's something there, and you'll know it, but you have to step into it.
youll have to be courageous. but you are. because you know theres something more important than your fear.
sorry if i stepped out of line, but when im led, i follow.
jill, your Truth is not diminished or altered by circumstance. its bigger than that. stand in your Truth. more will be revealed. i promise. -
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Mon, June 11, 2007 - 8:03 AMthanks for your thoughts Jeff. I have actually felt like this off and on since I was 4 years old (at least that is when I first remember this feeling). My mother put me outside so she could hang with her girlfriend and my sibs were away at school. We lived in the city of LA and it was never safe. I was molested more than once as a child cause my mom did not want to bother with making sure I was safe before she had her 'playtime'
I have always felt on the outside of the general human race. My patients love my healing and empathy- I get cards from some that I have treated ages ago and many have told me how much they appreciate my kindness, empathy and intelligence. One patient tells me that if she listens to what I say, she gets better. If only I had the strength in me to listen to myself and know that I am not alone, etc. I always tell others to look within themselves to find healing and that their relationship with themselves and the divine is the most sacred and helpful relationship they can have. Even if you have people in your life that are or have been supportive- stuff happens and people go out of your life for one reason or another. If you have that divine relationship- you can go on. I KNOW that yet lately can't seem to catch hold of the brass ring myself.
My therapist is a very special person and I value our relationship a lot. He is also an astrologist and has studied Jungian analysis as well as being a spiritual guide himself. It is not him that makes me feel that you don't take it home with you. What I meant by that comment is that although he cares on a level that is safe for him- all of us have to have boundaries or we would quickly burn out- I miss having someone in my life that cares because they choose to and I have meaning for them on a daily basis.
I thought I had reached the bottom of the abyss a while ago but it seems that I have further to fall down this rabbit hole. Maybe I will catch myself and maybe I won't. Only time will tell.
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
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Tue, June 12, 2007 - 6:03 AMI can understand how people feel who think about suicide, I have been there, but to me the difference between those who do and those who don't is I consider the consequences, those I will hurt, the guilt something like that would heap on someone else, and that is what saves me, I can not do something like that and injure someone else in the doing of it, that kind of pain for me hurting others is more than the pain I have felt at the time, so I guess I will have to let my life take it's normal course, I know how you feel about the woods, it's just me, I can leave it all behind, sit on a log and just take it all in, no outside interruptions, no alien sounds, just me and nature. that is why I am moving to the lake. -
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Tue, June 12, 2007 - 2:43 PMExcellent Terry!
I wish I had a lake to move to.
Someday I will have my home in the hills, and maybe a lake too:-)
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Tue, June 12, 2007 - 11:21 PM<<<I have been there, but to me the difference between those who do and those who don't is I consider the consequences>>>
plus, i have a sneakly suspicion we don't get out that easy. i think we'd just have to come back and do it again.
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Fri, June 15, 2007 - 5:20 AMYes so true, there are parts of this life I do not want to live over again.
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Mon, June 18, 2007 - 5:13 PMThat is part of the cosmic joke, isn't it ;-)
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Tue, June 19, 2007 - 1:30 AMI'm watching a person I can't seem to help but care about go through a related / similar isolation.
No one can help you, Jill; that's my perspective. Nothing anyone can express to you will help you.
Don't isolate yourself. It's a self-fueling cycle, a spiral that leads to total and terminal isolation. If being alone isn't what you want, you have to do the work, yourself, of reaching out and moving *past* the moments.
I was also molested in early childhood, also neglected by mom, also have suicide in the family. I also derive pretty much my only current fulfillment / meaning from help and healing I bring to others - it's not healthy nor healthful, though, I feel. It's not good to define myself 100% by what I bring to others.
I suspect you and I both need to find some way to be selfish a tad more often.