Somebody has started to straighten some of these thoughtless and ungrateful people out. And I am even more grateful that it was someone serving in one of the branches of military.
Military paid too much ? You be the judge !
This is an Airman's response to Cindy Williams' editorial piece in the Washington Times about MILITARY PAY, it should be printed in all newspapers across America.
On Nov. 12, Ms Cindy Williams (from Laverne and Shirley TV show) wrote a piece for the Washington Times, denouncing the pay raise coming service members' way this year -- citing that the stated 13% wage was more than they deserve.
A young airman from Hill AFB responds to her article below. He ought to get a bonus for this.
"Ms Williams:
I just had the pleasure of reading your column, "Our GIs earn enough" and I am a bit confused. Frankly, I'm wondering where this vaunted overpayment is going, because as far as I can tell, it disappears every month between DFAS (The Defense Finance and Accounting Service) and my bank account.
Checking my latest earnings statement I see that I make $1,117.80 before taxes. After taxes, I take home $874.20. When I run that through the calculator, I come up with an annual salary of $13,413.60 before taxes, and $10,490.40, after.
I work in the Air Force Network Control Center where I am part of the team responsible for a 5,000 host computer network. I am involved with infrastructure segments, specifically with Cisco Systems equipment. A quick check under jobs for Network Technicians in the Washington, D.C. area reveals a position in my career field, requiring three years experience with my job. Amazingly, this job does NOT pay $13,413.60 a year. No, this job is being offered at $70,000 to $80,000 per annum... I'm sure you can draw the obvious conclusions.
Given the tenor of your column, I would assume that you NEVER had the pleasure of serving your country in our armed forces. Before you take it upon yourself to once more castigate congressional and DOD leadership for attempting to get the families in the military's lowest pay brackets off of WIC and food stamps, I suggest that you join a group of deploying soldiers headed for AFGHANISTAN; I leave the choice of service branch up to you.
Whatever choice you make, though, opt for the SIX month rotation: it will guarantee you the longest possible time away from your family and friends, thus giving you full "deployment experience." As your group prepares to board the plane, make sure to note the spouses and children who are saying good-bye to their loved ones. Also take care to note that several families are still unsure of how they'll be able to make ends meet while the primary breadwinner is gone -- obviously they've been squandering the "vast" piles of cash the government has been giving them.
Try to deploy over a major holiday; Christmas and Thanksgiving are perennial favorites. And when you're actually over there, sitting in a foxhole, shivering against the cold desert night; and the flight sergeant tells you that there aren't enough people on shift to relieve you for chow, remember this: trade whatever MRE (meal-ready-to-eat) you manage to get for the tuna noodle casserole or cheese tortellini, and add Tabasco to everything. This gives some flavor. Talk to your loved ones as often as you are permitted; it won't nearly be long enough or often enough, but take what you can get and be thankful for it.
You may have picked up on the fact that I disagree with most of the points you present in your opined piece.
But, tomorrow from KABUL, I will defend to the death your right to say it.
You see, I am an American fighting man, a guarantor of your First Amendment rights and every other right you cherish. On a daily basis, my brother and sister soldiers worldwide ensure that you and people like you can thumb your collective nose at us, all on a salary that is nothing short of pitiful and under conditions that would make most people cringe. We hemorrhage our best and brightest into the private sector because we can't offer the stability and pay of civilian companies.
And you, Ms. Williams, have the gall to say that we make more than we deserve? Rubbish!
A1C Michael Bragg Hill AFB AFNCC
IF YOU AGREE, PLEASE SIGN AND PASS THIS ALONG TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE AND SHOW OUR SUPPORT OF THE AMERICAN FIGHTING MEN AND WOMEN. THANK YOU.
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Re: Is our military being paid too much ?
Sun, September 30, 2007 - 8:02 AMThis question needs to be asked?
A guy I know is an E7 with almost 17 years in. He makes a bit less than $900/week, and thats combat duty pay.
Break it down to a per hour rate, considering you are on duty 24/7 during combat.
$900 a week / 168 hours = $5.36/hour
Where else could a guy make such a wonderful wage after 17 years?
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Re: Is our military being paid too much ?
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 4:50 PMI remember this article. There is an error within however. The author does not calculate in our BAQ/VHA, Medical and Dental, and COMRATS that are paid to us on top of our base pay. And if deployed there is family separation pay and hazardous duty pay in some areas. Although I agree whole heartedly that we uniformed folks take a substantially large pay cut defending our country, we do not live in poverty, nor does a typical family of three (throw in two dogs too) require WIC. It is often when families begin reproducing more and more offspring that WIC becomes necessary. Also, let it be noted a single woman withchild or raising one who is an E-6 makes too much money too qualify for WIC. This I know for a fact.
When it comes to anyone, and I mean anyone saying we don't deserve a pay increase, I have more eloquent words for that fool. They begin with a steady stream of expletives. But hey, that's just the sailor in me.
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Re: Is our military being paid too much ?
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 7:45 PMKamelion,
I don't even have to read the article to know that we pay our military WAY TOO LITTLE!! And yet, with less than minimum wage, our brave military lay down their lives for OUR freedom and comfort and preservation of OUR lifestyle. They die for the right for people like Cindy Williams to spread her ilk. As angry as I am over how horribly our military is compensated for all they do for us, remember this: We live in a country that allows me the freedom to stand next to someone who can spout off whatever dribble they care to speak that offends everything I love and believe in; for that is their right. And I have the same right to say what is in my heart and mind in front of them.
As far as I'm concerned, there isn't a pay increase high enough to compensate our brave men and women. I only wish there were.