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I need to heal a pattern with a recurrent type of men - now doesn't that sound familiar- and have been sent to this tribe.
Where do I start?
I would also like to create a healthier pattern.
I am somewhat familiar with the chord cutting ritual and hold no grudge against the people involved.
I simply want my life to move to a happier space.
Where do I start?
I would also like to create a healthier pattern.
I am somewhat familiar with the chord cutting ritual and hold no grudge against the people involved.
I simply want my life to move to a happier space.
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Mon, January 22, 2007 - 8:01 PMEniad this is a good place to start cuz with Ho'oponopono you would ask for love and forgiveness of yourself first and then do the same for those that have clung onto your life in any form.
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Mon, January 22, 2007 - 8:54 PMHi Eniad
Being sent here means a Greater part of you gave you a big clue.
Ho'oponopono - this tribe's main discussion - is a single type of practice within a greater body called Huna.
You ask:
Where do I start?
You start by taking 100% percent responsibility for the reality of your life.
I know, from experience, that initially the Ego gets offended by the very concept of "How could I possibly be responsible for this bad pattern!"
But you know what happens when you take 100% responsibility for everything in your life?
You become completely free and unafraid, because whatever happens you can say: "I created it, I can un-create it, I can replace it."
Have you noticed that when one feels that everything that happens is someone else's fault, one feels helpless and ignorant of what to do, where to go?
When you take responsibility, you don't need to worry about safety and security, you are safe, you are secure; just as you would say "this is my house, my space", you can say "This is my reality, I'm going to clean it and decorate it and make it beautiful as only I know how".
Where do we go from here?
Welcome, I'm sure Waihili will have many helpful things for you to do.
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Tue, January 23, 2007 - 9:12 AMWow, Walt, I love what you wrote! One of the beautiful things about this tribe is how EVERYONE here shares and expresses so much wisdom!!!
So, welcome Eniad! I'm just the moderator and a fellow learner. Under extraordinary circumstances, I've been lucky enough to learn a version of the Ho'oponopono process from Ramsay Taum, of O'ahu, who learned from the late Morrnah Simeona, a kahuna la'au lapaau (healer). She was an amazing person by all accounts, and through spiritual guidance re-created the traditional group Ho'oponopono process for modern individual practice.
From the beginning, I've been directed by spirit to share this process. However, it's difficult, because I have come to it through a lineage where the founder has passed on and those who studied directly with her do not seem to be training teachers. From Ramsay, I have permission to share this in ritual settings, but not to teach it, which is sometimes hard to sort out. And to speak from my own experiences honestly (which may not end up being similar to yours or anyone else's!).
So I have been trying to share from what is already openly available in books, and from my own insight. And I've been hoping to ask Ramsay back here to the Bay Area so he can do a third workshop. But he's a very busy man, with much to do in Hawai'i.
So here is what I can say to you now. Morrnah speaks of our "divine blueprint." We all have one. This is, I think, how we may have been at the moment of our first creation as a soul. Unsullied. No glitches. We can return to this blueprint whenever we like. We're encoded with it. But as we go through our lives and karma and all that, we pick up "stuff." Lots of it. But we can jettison it. Using rituals like Ho'oponopono, we can "cut and cleanse" what's been stuck in our blueprint that's no longer serving us.
So in a way, a very definite way, we must cut and cleanse with ourselves first. One way to do this could be to imagine yourself in that unsullied, divine blueprint stage, shining, glittering, radiant, surefooted and nimble. You don't need to look for love, you ARE love.
When you encounter a possible new love, imagine yourself in that state.
Also make use of the capacities of your "three selves:" unihipili, uhane and aumakua. One thing I do know is when we stumble and have difficulties in our normal, day to day mode (the "uhane" part of ourselves), we can still have access, through our unihipili self (the "basic" or child self), to it's wisdom and that of our aumakua (high self) and divine energy. We can ask our unihipili to meet the other's unihipili, and get into alignment that way. We can also ask our unihipili to facilitate a meeting between our aumakua, to ask for wisdom and aloha in all interactions. All this happens without conscious exchanges between the two uhane selves, but this approach has profound effects.
But in order for this to work properly, you really must begin nurturing your unihipili. Ask it for its name. It may be of any gender or gender combinations. Say wonderful things to it. Give it love and support. Try to not violate it with demands and harshness. Be good to yourself. Assure your unihipili that you will be kind and gentle. Send aloha. Do ho'oponopono with it. Give it layers of protective energy -- colors of indigo, emerald green, ice blue and white. (I'll put more of this in another posting.) Make it feel safe and supported, and you will find yourself working together in wonderful ways.
Plus, you'll begin to be able to circumvent snarls with other people's unihipilis. There will be less of that pushing button and old baggage stuff. And when you then add Ho'oponopono to the mix, as a regular practice, things do move along a lot better.
I'm in the middle of a tremendous snarl myself, and this is the only thing keeping me sane...
One other thing. It's not instantaneous. Some situations are profoundly complex. You need to keep working on them. But you will see results.
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Tue, January 23, 2007 - 9:15 AMAlso, please, anyone else who has something to offer on this topic, please share. We're all learning together.
Warm aloha,
Waihili
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Tue, January 23, 2007 - 5:05 PMHi Eniad
Thinking about "recurrent patterns", it reminded me that long ago I also suffered repeating patterns with people, and since "others" around us work as mirrors to what is going on within us, the patterns changed when I changed.
The first, most important and difficult step is learning to love and accept yourself. Not a narcissistic kind of love but a true love that you are unique in creation. There will never be another "Eniad".
As Waihili said: You don't need to find love, You ARE Love.
My basic assumption that I had to eliminate was depending on the feedback of others to determine my worth.
It is known that if you show 10 different people an object, a painting, a house, etc; and ask them to describe it, you will get 10 different descriptions and opinions.
So I ask: How can anyone be qualified to judge your worth when they can't even realize who you truly are?
Have you sat down with Eniad long enough to begin to discover who she is?
When you do, every day will show you something new and you'll discover how easy it is to love a mystery that does not end.
As Waihili said, we are all learning here and in sharing we reflect back on each other what we need to see of ourselves.
Concerning the teachings of Huna and Ho'oponopono, I purchased the book quoted by Waihili and it has turned out to be a most valuable resource. There are many useful practices there.
Thank You Waihili for your words of encouragement.
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Fri, February 9, 2007 - 6:00 PMI wanted time to rethink this.
I thought earlier about the definition of "evil" and one of the two was inertia. I would like to resolve a pattern with inertia. In my case, having been stuck in victim role and having deal with predators because of family history.
I have survived but I would like to do better. I would like not to have such people around anymore and loose the abusers/users. I am dealing with the tail end of this and I want to do it without becoming a predator/user.
I want to meet a different type of people on my path.
I feel a massive shift of energy happening already and this is changing already
I think that as spiritual people we have a tendency to want to be saviours but that does not work. I do not mind being a giver but I noticed that one can become abused instead.
Maybe that is a normal pattern we must evolve through on our way to wisdom.
That is something that some of us are possibly working on now or should be working on.
That could be globally interesting.
My pattern with men is not that bad because I see clearly. I tend to get guys that get netted sexually or by hard-to-get-games by other females when I show interest. They get swept out of the way without my having to do anything. Maybe it means that I do not want to get involved seriously. No matter how intelligent, they are immature that way and often pay a bitter price. They are pathetic, not women beaters nor serious abusers, but I do not want to attract them anymore.
Working on the pattern may get me a better quality mate that I could get involved with. Not carrying the victim pattern means you can be vulnerable with the right person. -
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Fri, February 9, 2007 - 6:19 PMHi Walt,
I take 100% percent responsibility for the reality of my life.
I do that because it puts me in the driver’s seat
“You become completely free and unafraid, because whatever happens you can say: "I created it, I can un-create it, I can replace it."
I absolutely agree with the statement and notice how some people feel victimized by everything, even when it is true, but they themselves set themselves up for energetic bankruptcy.
In passing, I do not think that we create 100 % of all reality in our life because we are not alone in this system that we share with many - but it is pretty close.
I have an incredible string of positive synchronistic events so I am eveolving in the right direction.
Whahili and Enlilson are tribe friends but you showed up almost on cue, Walt.
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Mon, February 12, 2007 - 6:50 PMHi Eniad
I'm glad I was able to play some kind of role in showing you what was already inside you.
I can't help thinking about what you said about "victim mode" and how it resonates with things that have happened to me.
One of the practices that I find myself doing on a daily basis is forgiving myself when memories surface of negative experiences with others. This is because in the past I disliked myself so intensely for having made so many mistakes, that I thought the only proper punishment was to be made to suffer by others. Given the magnetic nature of thought you attract more of what you're already thinking, so the natural result is having painful interactions with others.
In thinking about your description of what is happening with the men who approach the sphere of your awareness, the Ho'oponopono attitude to take (and Waihili correct me on this) is to ask: "What is going on inside me that is manifesting as men being pulled aside when I approach them or simply show interest in them."
The very first time I heard of Ho'oponopono, I went to the Hooponopono.org site and read all the articles. I started using in daily life the liturgy of Mornah Simeona that appears in this article:
hooponopono.org/Articles/c...kahuna.html
every time I came across a person or situation that bothered me, I would mentally recite the liturgy and to my surprise one or two days later circumstances would change completely.
Is this something you can use? I don't know, only Eniad can decide when she listens to how things resonate inside.
Prem/Jyoti
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Wed, February 14, 2007 - 11:16 AMHi Walt,
I am aware that Kahuna magic is very powerful and soft at the same time as in untying knots that allows the energy to work through.
Is the liturgy you mentioned in the link you sent under "I am"? I am already aware of the general magnetic affect of thoughts and have been working on this for a while and Waihili, thanks for reminding us to cut the links on a daily basis. It is very easy to forget to do so.
A lot of us old souls have a tendency to fall into rescuer's mode. It is a passage of evolution but not one where we should remain at. We need wisdoom and detachment. When I establish better boundaries, I feel a poweful energy that is mine and should remain rightly so.
We have been brainwashed to give, give, give but often to takers and wrong ones. We are hurting ourselves and in fact hurting them.
There is the clearing of stagnant energies - where we all start at first - and the creating of clear focused creations.
I would like to heal a general pattern having to do with success that is a clear realisation of my objectives - on every level - without hurting anyone, me included.
Is this too general?
I think that one's evolution is reflected by one's life.
I feel that I have attained accomplishment level meaning that I have very precise things in mind that I would like to accomplish but these can change.
In order to do that, I must control my emotions and manifestation abilities that are already strong.
When you are clearly and ethically yourself and conserve your energy, everything else falls in line. At least that is my belief.
The universe is nothing but energy. We are always bathing in it. There is no time nor space I now feel. -
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Wed, February 14, 2007 - 1:16 PMHi Eniad
Yes, the text of the liturgy is in that article I sent.
Of all the things you said I would ask a question: What if you did not control the emotions?
The emotions are the domain of the unihipili and he/she doesn't like it very much when it's emotional needs and issues are not being addressed.
Instead of control... What if you were to sit with a particular emotion that is troubling you and began a dialogue?
Question what thought or thoughts gave rise to it; ask yourself the validity of this thought and who would you be without it.
In studying the Work of Byron Katie, I realized her method is the Vector method described in Waihili's book Hawaiian Mysticism.
The end result is rescuing yourself from though forms and patterns and instead of "emotional control" you achieve transmutation of the emotional energy.
You yourself have said we are bathing in an ocean of energy, it is the shape, form and frequency of this energy that affects and concerns us.
Of course you might already be doing all these things and my observations are moot.
I agree with what you said about "rescuers mode", I decided to give that up when I realized: 1- Souls create the circumstances they need for their evolution, and 2- Unless someone expressly asks for help, you can't interfere with their free will.
Your seeking appears most powerful, I think you will achieve your goal.
Much Happiness
Walt
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Tue, March 13, 2007 - 6:53 PMDear ENIAD and Walt,
I am so grateful to you for this thread and your thoughtful discussion.
Here is a quote from one of the 13 Indigenous Grandmothers that another Tribe person posted on her blog. For some reason, it seems applicable here, even though we're not talking about illness.
“Illness is a communication from the spirit of that person. The medicine person works to understand what the spirit of the patient is calling for.”
Perhaps our patterns are also communications from our spirits.
Warm aloha,
Waihili -
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Tue, April 3, 2007 - 7:02 PMDis-ease carries several etymological meanings .
Patterns do also most convey communication: creases of the soul waiting to be ironed out as they reverberate through space forecasting a need for healing and recreating opportunities to do so.
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Sun, April 22, 2007 - 11:24 AMasking for healing, forgiveness or love are all our gifts to ourselves and to those that have a part in our life. with the many lives I have had trust me forgiveness is something to to behold.
Eniad like so many other things I have seen you express there does not seem much left to hold you back I look forward to watching the bloom.
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Wed, April 25, 2007 - 1:56 AMFor 25 years, I refused to follow my depression to the deepest, darkest parts of my existence. I resisted. I feared. Only after allowing the descent to begin was I able to finally throw it off by bathing it in the light, so that the Truth was revealed, and the dark was exposed.
We live in magical times. If you are in any way seeking validation from an external source, which always leads to depression because it is not possible to find love in a source external from yourself, please know this. If you really concentrate and identify the issues that make you depressed, if you then ask for assistance with deprogramming the propaganda in your brain, and if you are really willing to release anything that presents itself for examination, you will break through it.
LOVE TO ALL
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Wed, April 25, 2007 - 10:56 AM''it is not possible to find love in a source external from yourself''
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Wed, April 25, 2007 - 12:25 PMSure Joe.
I struggled with it for 43 years.
Your inner State of Being is under your own control. Every facet of it. No matter what circumstance comes your way, you have the power over how you react to that circumstance.
Having said that, to experience true love and bliss is also under your complete and utter power, every moment of every day. To carry the idea that you cannot experience this State of Being unless you find your true partner or find work that satisfies you on every level or (insert any infinite number of circumstances here) is to give away your power over you inner State of Being.
The Truth is, that you must learn to radiate love from within the core of your being. Even the blissful state of a new romance that makes your stomach have butterflies is merely YOU allowing yourself to radiate love from WITHIN your own being. The romance may trigger this, but you are at the controls.
I challenge you to find this immense love within yourself and to radiate it every moment of every day. The ability to do so is not dependent upon ANYTHING external to the body/mind you inhabit.
LOVE TO ALL
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Sat, April 28, 2007 - 7:10 AM'Ae, Dave!
Be the love. Not look for it.
This is very tantric (among other things).
And it's completely possible to do, if you let it happen. I think it's our natural state.
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Mon, April 30, 2007 - 12:06 AMIt has been an amazing transformation.
LOVE TO ALL
dave
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