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Will I see him soon?

topic posted Sun, January 3, 2010 - 7:33 PM by  NeptuneVenus
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Its a pretty old chart from November 26, 2009. I am going to a city pretty far away from where I currently live. I am afraid to bump into my ex who lives near by that city, not in the city but lives in the outskirts.
I really hope we dont bump into each other.
Two problems I see is early rising and very early moon, my co-significator.
I am Mercury and the Moon and he is Jupiter and the Sun. Moon in the 8th clearly shows my anxieties of running into him. He is Jupiter in his 12, hiding? I have the feeling he will be around but I won't notice him.
I am Mercury in the fourth in fall, not sure what that means! But I see a sextile between Mercury and Jupiter, probably means a good chance of us meeting. Any other input?

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    Re: Will I see him soon?

    Sun, January 3, 2010 - 8:33 PM
    Is this a trip for pleasure, work, or other? Sometimes that helps in identifying where the activity takes place. For me, I once worried about running into someone while out with friends who were old coworkers, in the 6th/11th house significators were the main focus.

    This is a familiar question I've seen by others, and have asked myself, and the condition of the Moon and Mercury (your sig) don't promise much of a meeting here. There is an applying sextile (a weaker connection in horary) between yours and his sig and there is reception, but Mercury is in detriment and under sun's beams. Planets under the influence of the sun are in fear of what the sun represents - here the 12th house of secrets, sorrows, and self-undoing (also affairs). Moon is in the unfortunate 8th, peregrine, and opposing Saturn, the greater malefic. When significators are this weak (especially detrimented significators), you usually don't see much happen, other than needless anxiety.

    The ASC so early does make the chart very iffy, and I don't put much stock in charts that have warnings like this (even late ASC is more readable, IMO). An early degree Moon isn't usually a warning against judgement, but it does show that something is in its early stages. Another warning by Lilly is when the astrologer is combust or otherwise afflicted (here you are under the sun's beams).

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    I asked the question myself to see if I could get a better read, and I didn't have any warnings. The chart was a pretty clear, "no" to me. Saturn-Sun and Saturn-Moon have no future connections (only a separating square - showing a previous connections severed), and there isn't mutual reception here. Sun is surrounded by 10th, 11th and 3rd rulers (friends and maybe siblings, mother but possibly involving work - 10th ruler Venus - but seems fun in the 5th). If Saturn were a missing person, you wouldn't probably find him in a cadent house and no future aspect, and I would say the same thing here. He might actually be out of town himself, by being in his turned 9th.

    Mars retro on the ASC (or in an angular house) has been much discussed in Skyscript, and it's another negative for a question. Bonnati: "The 91st Consideration is, To observe in Questions or Nativities, whether Mars be in any of the Angles of the Figure, especially in Fixed Signs; or when Scorpio Ascends, for then he destroys all the good signified by that question, or at least much impedes and diminishes it; Unless Jupiter behold him with a Trine or Sextile; for then his malice is mitigated; but yet as Jupiter is either strong or weak." Mars rules the 9th house of far away travel, and is in the sign of detriment of Saturn - so I would say this would be a pretty big no to a meeting.

    Anyway, just my two cents, for what it's worth. Don't let worrying about running into an ex ruin a trip for you. Have fun!
    • Re: Will I see him soon?

      Sun, January 3, 2010 - 8:49 PM
      I am going for education purposes but also for pleasure...a little bit of both. You kind of eased my anxiety a bit of not seeing him.
      I see now what you mean by Mars in detriment to Saturn. But its in the 12th, what do you make of that? Mars will oppose him, Jupiter though! Is that any importance?
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        Sun, January 3, 2010 - 9:09 PM
        "I see now what you mean by Mars in detriment to Saturn. But its in the 12th, what do you make of that? Mars will oppose him, Jupiter though! Is that any importance?"

        I was referencing my chart (since yours isn't radical), and Mars is in the 1st.

        Mars doesn't oppose Jupiter. It is refrained. Mars was applying, went retro before perfection, then Jupiter beats it into Pisces.
  • Re: Will I see him soon?

    Sun, January 3, 2010 - 8:38 PM
    As per astrology you both must meet. Because sextile is showing an opportunity and there's strong mutual reception between Mercury and Jupiter (Ruler Trip and Trip Trip) which makes the chances quite higher.
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      Sun, January 3, 2010 - 9:59 PM
      "As per astrology you both must meet. Because sextile is showing an opportunity and there's strong mutual reception between Mercury and Jupiter (Ruler Trip and Trip Trip) which makes the chances quite higher."

      Mutual reception isn't generally taken to be strong when one planet is in detriment (especially when it is the planet applying).

      In any case, her chart is flawed (early degree ASC, astrologer under sun's beams and we don't know what the hour ruler is because we don't know the location), so I would focus on the one I rectified, which is radical.
      • Re: Will I see him soon?

        Sat, March 13, 2010 - 8:57 AM
        just wanted to update...i did not see him. i had a WONDERFUL time with my partner. i am glad i did not bump in to him. he was probably out of town :). THANKS.
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          Re: Will I see him soon?

          Sat, March 13, 2010 - 9:01 AM
          Thanks for the update, and glad you had fun! I hope you didn't worry too much about bumping into him.

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