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has anyone had the experience of taking others with you into the chapel ? This does of course come under the category of getting lost in someone else's world, or someone else getting lost in yours. I have had both these experiences, usually the former but most recently a lot of the latter and both cause me to suffer quite a lot. What does one do when psychic tensions between people begin to ring the alarm bells of confusion in a mutual relationship and shit starts hitting the fan and/or falling from the sky ?
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Re: Mutual Chapel Perilous excursions - the dangers of the relatonship psychic catastrophe
Wed, December 17, 2008 - 5:51 AMi could write a lot more and query the nature of psychic projection and what is referred to as 'parallel perception' in nagual stuff... but perhaps i will leave it at that for now and open it up for all to share. cheers ;) -
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Re: Mutual Chapel Perilous excursions - the dangers of the relatonship psychic catastrophe
Wed, December 17, 2008 - 9:52 AMSeems to be happening to me allot lately....I think its the stars and their influence some how making me weak and susceptible to others influences...I just let it pass with time .....try not to get caught up in it too much and just realize its a planetary/solar influences that should pass. I think the whole planet is experiencing this sort of influence currently....I hope it will pass soon before people actually believe its real.
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Re: Mutual Chapel Perilous excursions - the dangers of the relatonship psychic catastrophe
Wed, December 17, 2008 - 12:31 PMi'd say about half my excusions into the Chapel have been with another person and usually female. In retrospect it has become clear that my bonds with these others grew stronger for it, especailly in those instances where we both shared awareness of being "out there" together and together we conspired to escape or find exit somehow. -
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Re: Mutual Chapel Perilous excursions - the dangers of the relatonship psychic catastrophe
Sun, December 21, 2008 - 12:46 AMhmm. yeah interesting, i mean it takes a lot of self acceptance doesn't it ? i have had the experiences where i have a high frequency relationship with someone and lately its been they are 'interested' in the things i know so sometimes i underestimate the voltage of the 'knowledge' and being that is transmitted and it blows there minds and then i become a sort of scapegoat for their frustrations as the newly found information begins to drastically transform their perception of reality - then the fact comes that whilst we were both having this rather divine high frequency relationship our 'lower centre relationship' was being abandoned and suddenly i am being vidicated and seem to be responsible for their trip. certainly it now seems to finally be teaching me 'safety first' in any interraction, and how powerful words can be in shocking someone and being weary of people who are 'interested' but clearly aren't ready to go through with their own self-initiation once the shock has been transmitted, and that i being the transmitter am responsible to be aware of that - and also how any such conversation of presence can be a sort of magick and ritual transformation and the important thing in any such things is, as you talk about fundamentally in the paratheatre work, that each individual is responsible for their own safety first and owning their own space so as to instigate a more authentic and stabilised autonomy.
so when you were really 'out there' with these people - it takes a lot from each person to accept eachothers boundaries, personal opinions and weaknesses in order than a firmer integrity be stabilised in the long run eh? and im sure something about each person learning to smell their own shit and quit with shadow projecting and false transference and so forth. -
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Re: Mutual Chapel Perilous excursions - the dangers of the relatonship psychic catastrophe
Sun, December 21, 2008 - 1:01 AMeach excursion with another was so different that each must be taken on their own; no comparisons, in other words. perhaps if there was a thread that ran through them all it would be the humbling revelaton that truth without compassion is the same as cruelty. by the way, i recently posted a response to your mention of the "messianic complex" (at the astrology tribe under your Grand Cross thread). -
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Re: Mutual Chapel Perilous excursions - the dangers of the relatonship psychic catastrophe
Sun, December 21, 2008 - 1:30 AM"truth without compassion is the same as cruelty" - i have most definately found this a major theme in my journies and count it amongst my favourites of your maxims.. -
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Re: Mutual Chapel Perilous excursions - the dangers of the relatonship psychic catastrophe
Thu, April 16, 2009 - 2:51 AMditto.
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