i find that when i sleep too much my reactions are worse-
anyone else have this feeling?
it's almost as if i accidentally skip that first meal and my body goes haywire
depression hits
and well, you know
anyone else have this feeling?
it's almost as if i accidentally skip that first meal and my body goes haywire
depression hits
and well, you know
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Re: what about sleep?
Sun, March 26, 2006 - 2:50 PMYep. Happens if I sleep too late in the morning and also if I take a nap for too long. Whole system gets wonky and I feel hung over. Takes about a day to recover, sometimes more. -
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Sun, March 26, 2006 - 3:03 PMugh- i hate it.
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Mon, March 27, 2006 - 12:28 AMSleep? What's that? I don't sleep anymore...and when I manage to get a few hours here and there...I'm just headachey. I feel like such a big, whiney baby most of the time anymore. No sleep, headaches, moody, crashing, my friggin' fingers HURT from poking them all the goddamned time!!...I think I might find a wall soon and just put my head through it, ya know? >;o)
I'm just new to this and trying to find things that work and I'm frustrated. I know in time I'll figure it all out, but I'm not the most patient person on the planet...
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Mon, March 27, 2006 - 11:51 AMyeah- i know how you feel-
are you dealing with hypoglycemia on it's own or do you have other diet restrictions?
i know that's my problem- the combination of stupid allergies and intollerances with this hypo crap- i neve level out and i feel like i eat all the time- or not enough, or close together or whatever-
hypoglycemia really adds to a lot of other bodily crap
that my other restrictions add to as well
not to mention lack of uptake of vitamins and shit
believe me
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Re: what about sleep?
Mon, March 27, 2006 - 10:35 PMWarning: Long rant ahead! >;o)
Diet restrictions....well, the more I eat, regardless of what it seems to be, I gain weight. That's my issue. So I don't....then I get sick....then I eat and get mad because I have to....it's just a big friggin' mess. And I haven't been able to exercise to burn any of it off because I had hurt my back and it took a year and half for anyone to figure out what was wrong. DUH!? So...Tomorrow, I start physical therapy for two hernieated discs. So, I'm hoping that starting to exercise again will at least solve the "gaining the weight" problem.
Two: I was sick for a very long time with a gallbladder problem and I got sick everytime I ate. I got the gallbladder out--but psychologically, I still hate food because it made me so sick for so long (a year--again took a long time for anyone to figure out what was wrong!)...not to mention food had made me so fat at one point in my life. Stupid food fears, but there you go.
And now I HAVE to eat or else. Well you know what I want to say to that?!?! Yup, the big F word. But what good does it do me? Do the sugar levels listen? Nope. :o)
I also have some food allergies to some meats which aren't "too" severe but proteins are what seems to working to bring me to place where I feel ok. Carbs don't do it for it me. I just have plenty of antihistimines when I need them. I bought a book: "The Do's and Don'ts of Hypoglycemia." I still have to get through it all yet. I just hope it wasn't a waste of money. The Hypoglycemia website recommended it, so what the hell....
Ya know....you'd think that the powers above would know better than to give this shit to people with anger issues! (giggle)
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Re: what about sleep?
Wed, March 29, 2006 - 12:23 AMSo far ALL of my hypoglycemia issues (especially headaches, which I also would often have when I woke up) have greatly lessened by making sure that my blood sugar levels are at a constant median. This means eating smaller meals, and always snacking between meals. So I need to eat at least 6 times a day. If I do this, and avoid foods that will spike my levels (white flour, sugar, alcohol, caffeine), then I will feel fine about 95% of the time. If I eat anything "forbidden" or don't eat enough, then I increase my chances of getting a headache, but this risk is now greatly lowered from what it used to be since I am so careful about how and what I eat. Evening out my blood sugar has made me much less sensitive to trigger foods than I used to be, and if I get a headache, it is much less painful than the ones I used to get, which were often migraines.
I had these blood sugar issues for years, but only by changing my diet and eating habits have I finally been able to manage my awful headaches. I still have the migraine meds at hand, but take far, far fewer of them then ever before. And I would say that my calorie intake is also quite normal, just more spread out than most people, since I eat smaller main meals. -
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Re: what about sleep?
Wed, March 29, 2006 - 8:36 AMIf it wouldn't be too much of a bother for you, could you give an example of what your diet is like? What do you like to eat as your main meals and your snacks? You, of course don't have to list everything, but what are your favorites? I like fish and chicken. I'm not a big beef or pork fan, but I eat it once in a while. I potatoes, pasta and rice...but neither in great quanties. Like I've said before...IF I had a choice, I'd rather drink my meals and get it over in a couple of swallows. But I know that is not a reality based decision. :o) I'll learn....I just need a few pointers.... -
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Wed, March 29, 2006 - 2:55 PMhave you thought about juicing for snacks?
that might be a good idea for you...
i have been meaning to try that.
can you eat soy?
do you vary the types of rice you eat?
you may want to venture into brown rice, takes a lot longer to cook- but way more nourishing- i hear it's good made on the sweet side in lieu of a hot breakfast cereal- but i have yet to try it.
and one of my favorite things are rice noodles/ like thai food- i have had to learn this cause semolina (what pasta and cous cous is made out of) is just another type of wheat- see, i not only avoid white flour- i don't eat any wheat- makes it more difficult to just grab something... can't eat dairy either- so i am constantly on the search for good stuff to eat. love all the asian noodles- ethiopian food is soo good- now you have to bear in mind i live in s.f. so i have access to al these things- makes it better and worse- worse cause i really should be cooking my own meals / less risk.... whatever.
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Re: what about sleep?
Wed, March 29, 2006 - 9:54 PMHAhaha Rambler! I don't feel alone! Cool....
Actually, what I've done is get some meal replacement drinks for when I'm on the go. I liked the Snapple drinks they had for a while but they don't make them anymore. So I'm buying Wild Berry Ensure. Eh, so I feel like an old lady when I buy them. So what. At least I'm getting some nutrients and they are really good for when I have a crash too. They bring everything back up to speed.
I have found that juices are OK for an emergency, but I can't do anything too sweet. It causes crashes for me later on in the day. I seem to be alright with bananas though for some reason. I hate any kind of protein bar that I've tried at this point. They are really gritty and way too sweet. I'm not a big sweets fan. I get a craving once in a while, but not too often. I like my starches, carbs and salty snacks. That's where my problems usually lie.
I have tried brown rice, but it's just to damned chewy! Blah! :o) But I suppose some things I will just have to get used to, huh? I do like long grain rice though and that's chewy...but that's me, Miss Contradiction! I can have dairy...I just don't when I should. I do have a slight allergic reaction to straight milk, so I tend to avoid that a bit.
I'm not in an area where a lot of exotic and ethnic foods are available. So I do what I can. I've only recently been exposed to middle eastern food and I'm enjoying that a lot. Stuffed grape leaves are to die for! I seriously need to find a recipe so I can make them at home. I hate spending so much for them. But anyway....here I go rambling!
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Wed, March 29, 2006 - 10:11 PMi actually mean vegetable juicing- when you get the right recepie it really can be a meal-
if you use less water with the brown rice it won't be as chewy- or try another brand- i swear they all say brown rice- but some are shitty big time.
try mahatma brown rice if you can find it- and use 1/4 cup less h2o -
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Thu, March 30, 2006 - 12:47 AMGosh...I'm soooo in Michigan aren't I?!?!
Vegetable Juicing? Don't they scream?! Yeah, yeah....that was bad! Seriously, I can barely stand to eat most of them, let alone drink their juice! Blah! I'm cringing thinking about it.
I like Tomato juice....that's technically a fruit...but it masks as a veggie, so I'm good! :o) I'll snack on raw broccolli or cauliflower if I get desperate for a snack, but if I see another carrot I swear I'm going to grow bunny ears and a fuzzy tail!
Hey...Do you think Hugh Heffner would hire a REAL bunny? :o) -
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Thu, March 30, 2006 - 1:40 AMoh my-
i swear you need to eat more veggies
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Thu, March 30, 2006 - 6:17 AMMaryska, since you like "starches, carbs and salty snacks" -- and so do I -- here's what I eat.
Firstly, I'm a vegetarian. Protein is actually quite recommended for hypoglycemics, so go ahead and eat meat.
But I love nuts (especially cashews), and they nicely fufill the salt quotient I crave. You might also look for Japanese crackers called "o-sembe," as they are made from rice instead of wheat. (I love Japanese noodles and also live is SF, and soba noodles are made of buckwheat -- with a perfectly low glycemic index!)
Sweetness should be derived as much as possible from fruit, whether fresh or dried. That Snapple you loved probably had either white sugar or high fructose corn syrup in it, which MUST be avoided. Everything fruity must be 100% fruit of 100% fruit juice, because natural fructose (not added fructose, another no-no), is more slowly digested by your body and doesn't spike your blood sugar (unless you really go overboard with fruit). In addition to the aforementioned Larabars, there are many 100% fruit products on the market, and you don't even have to go to health food stores anymore to get them Safeway often has a well-stocked natural foods section these days. Look for such things as Knudsen natural sodas, or Juice Squeezes (I forget who makes them, but Trader Joe's carries them. Try drinking half of a can or bottle instead of a whole one if they are sweet -- always read that Total Sugars amount on the label even if it is naturally sweet; too much is not good, and drinks tend to concentrate fruit sugars more than is natural.
I often eat such starchy foods such as oatmeal (with a little rice milk for sweetness, but you can use soy milk or real milk as well). I love cereal, and eat it the same way. I'm a big fan of shredded wheat cereal (100% unbleached wheat), and Erewhon raisin bran (unbleached wheat, no sugar). I love a nice soft-boiled egg with wheat toast for breakfast, or a smoothie with a banana, frozen strawberries, rice milk, and soy-based protein powder from Trader Joe's. Very yummy.
Peanut butter sandwiches or tofurky fake lunch meat on whole grain bread is great. I also eat a lot of Asian food such as Thai, Japanese, or Indian in SF. Almost all is hypoglycemically friendly, since even white rice won't spike your blood sugar too much. I often make pasta, and now use whole wheat noodles.
And again, eat smaller portions, and eat more often. I drink green tea whenever I want, but black tea often does me in. I love coffee, and can drink it more now that I'm stabilized, but try not to drink it two days in a row. Alcohol in small amounts -- one drink and I'm done. Greasy food is also bad for hypoglycemics -- I don't remember why, but I feel better avoiding it (the whole "good oil vs. bad oil" thing is always in my mind).
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Re: what about sleep?
Sat, April 1, 2006 - 10:36 PMThanks for the advice.
I have found that as much as I like salty snacks, I need to avoid them. They really pile on the water weight for me eventhough I am taking a diuretic. I have found that the trail mix that I love (dried fruit and nuts) has a TON of salt in it. I need to turn into a label reader more than what I have been.
My problem is that some days the proteins and fruits work and some days they don't. I have even tried the snacking throughout the day thing....and then boom---I crash and night. I think maybe it's a combination of foods problem that I'm running into. Wow...that would suck.
I've gone the hard boiled egg route. It didn't work. Peanut butter doesn't work either. I've found that only certain proteins work. Fish is a no-go too. The one that I've found that works the best for me is ham. It's a bit high in fat, but hey, it works in an emergency.
Yesterday, I had steak (I splurged and had a big one too), veggies (shock!), a handful of baked tater tots, and a piece of french bread. Two hours later people were asking what was wrong with me! Get my drift? I was still friggin full! I don't get it.
Anyway....I think it might be time to see a nutritionist to seek some professional advice....start keeping a food diary before I go and keep a diary of my sugars too so they can compare. Shit, if I do that myself, maybe I can figure it out on my own. I'm not a complete idiot. :o)
As far as greasy food goes, I have to stay away from a lot of that anyway. I have IBS. I tend to broil, steam, bake and grill everything that I can. If I have to fry anything I use Pam or as little Canola oil that I can get away with. Plus, fried foods are bad for those on diets!! :o)
Oh...the Snapple thing. It was called Snapple-a-day. It was a meal replacement drink like the fruity slim-fasts. It had sugar, protein, carbs, fiber, fruit and veggie juices, soy, and a ton of vitamins. They were tasty and a helluva lot cheaper than slimfast. But like I said, they aren't available anymore.
You guys have been great with the advice and listening to me rant. I appreciate it.
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Sun, April 2, 2006 - 6:34 AM"Yesterday, I had steak (I splurged and had a big one too), veggies (shock!), a handful of baked tater tots, and a piece of french bread. Two hours later people were asking what was wrong with me! Get my drift? I was still friggin full! I don't get it."
That's classic reactive hypoglycemia -- you sugar crash even though you're full, because the raise in blood sugar level (the bread and tater tots would have done it) causes your pancreas to overproduce insulin (to break down the sugar), which causes your blood sugar level to plummet -- even though you are still full! It's evil. But I wouldn't have eaten the bread and tater tots in the first place. Look -- the trick is to get your blood sugar to rise and fall gradually and for it to go neither too high nor too low. For example, if you had eaten whole wheat bread instead of French bread, that would have been much better for you, because you digest it more slowly than white bread.
And that Snapple stuff would be lethal to hypoglycemics -- you couldn't pay me to drink such a horrible combination of sugar and carbs!
Anyway, finding what works for you is a trial-and-error process, but I would say it sounds like you have reactive hypoglycemia (I'm not a doctor nor do I play one on TV), and that if you do a Google search on that term you will come up with lots of dietary suggestions, which is what I did when I first started the diet. It's free and worth experimenting. -
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Re: what about sleep?
Sun, April 2, 2006 - 11:26 PMYes, definitely read labels closely! Allen's said a lot of really important stuff about nutrition and what to avoid.
It's a little weird that ham works for you; it's extremely salty. Maybe you could try another sort of protein that's similar but not as salty and processed--how about chicken or turkey? If pork's your preference, try slices of roasted pork instead of the ham. Almonds are a fabulous protein, too, but if peanuts and soy don't help you much, almonds probably won't, either... although it might be that the rest of your diet is interfering with the nut protein? I dunno. Might be worth trying again once you get the hang of eating several small meals/snacks.
A side note about IBS: I was diagnosed with IBS after a grueling series of tests to rule out "everything else" when I was 20. More than 10 years later, I finally figured out that I can't digest onions and garlic! It's pretty hard to avoid them in restaurants, and I used to put them in everything myself, so it took ages to figure out this food intolerance. But it's inspired me to become a better cook, and when I don't eat 'em, surprise! No more IBS symptoms! Additionally, I get some hypoglycemia-like symptions along with the IBS stuff when I accidentally eat onions, like the brain fog and sleepiness. Too much wheat (especially processed wheat, white flour) also brings on the fog.
I've been eating sprouted whole wheat bread--it's fabulous, and no wheat-brain! An egg on a piece of sprouted wheat toast is one of my favorite things to have for lunch.
Okay, I're far off topic now... what about sleep... hmmm... is IS kinda late... nite nite! :) -
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Mon, April 3, 2006 - 1:30 PMibs is generally caused by foods your body can not deal with
i has ibs until i removed wheat and dairy
for some it's onions and garlic
for some it's eggs
i believe those are the high ones-
but in some of my research and with personal experience i found that allergies that cause gallbladder inflamtion usually eventually cause ibs. (generalization)
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Tue, April 4, 2006 - 7:36 AMI briefly had IBS symptoms, and docs couldn't figure it out. Intestinal scans showed nothing.
I finally realized on my own that it was gas-causing foods that were causing my intestines to swell. When I stopped eating so much of them (and used Beano for a while to curtail gas production!), the pain went away. -
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Re: what about sleep?
Wed, April 5, 2006 - 1:21 PMbeano works well-
i am supposed to take that whenever i eat soy, i forget to buy it sometimes.
papaya enzymes worked well for me in the past, bromelain as well (the stuff in pineapple)
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Re: what about sleep?
Sat, April 21, 2007 - 9:47 PMI found that i am more efficient at being awake and sleeping if i take naps, on average like, two a day. Normally i'll get a quick nap around noon at school, and then an hour or two at 4 when i get home. Then i can stay up until 3am and wake up at 7 just fine. If i sleep too much i end up waking up in a cold sweat from the crashing.
My typical reaction to crashing was falling asleep too. I've been known to curl up Anywhere Anytime and just sleep off the crash instead of staying awake and being grumpy, and getting really dizzy when i stand up. I used to find it weird that i would be really tired if i went to bed tired, but on days when i ate well, and i went to sleep with a good sugar balance, i would wake up in top shape! Now with the naps i never go too long before meals, which is good so that i don't accidentally carb-binge when i wake up.
When i am not working, i end up sleeping in too large of chunks and become very unproductive and sad. I've had to make sure too keep constantly busy the last few breaks so that i don't sleep binge and get depressed again. -
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Sun, April 22, 2007 - 12:31 AMI'm ambivalent about naps. If they last too long, they just make me groggy. I would like to learn to take little 20 minute naps, but it's hard for me to make myself stop and take them. -
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Sat, September 8, 2007 - 1:44 AMoooo i am not a napper.....
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