hehehehehehehe.

yeah that was a pretty low blow.

also perhaps the pot calling the kettle black too!!!!

but I will stand by it. I do not have a monopoly on immaturity, but I can try...

no it is not presumptious. It is the fact. His statements were completely baseless. A good attorney does not through around comments like that without having some information behind him. I have come across a lot of self-righteous attorneys in my day, and most of them are not the folks you want on your side. The facts and the law is what wins. Not broad baseless accusations that have no meaning, and are not even likely to be linked to his true concerns.

as for ad hominem, I am proud of you to recognize it. very good.

please do refrain!

I thought I would give a more thoughtful response.

The laws are designed to be followed. Our laws are designed to favor foreigners who either wish to invest in the USA, who wish to use the USA as a conduit for legitimate financial transactions, or who wish to use the laws of the USA to protect their assets. There is nothing wrong in this that I can see.

However, you imply that people owe some duty to go beyond the laws, and I suppose you mean here taxes. That must mean that you believe people should pay MORE taxes than the law provides for them to pay. That is a noble view, and one I hope you are practicing! But it is not a legal view.

And I will say this as well: I do not believe it is even a "highly ethical" view. I will quote my hero, Learned Hand, since his words are better than anything I could say (perhaps this is why he was a great judge):

[A] transaction, otherwise within an exception of the tax law, does not lose its immunity, because it is actuated by a desire to avoid, or, if one choose, to evade, taxation. Any one may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which will best pay the Treasury; there is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes.

Over and over again Courts have said there is nothing sinister in so arranging one's affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everybody does so, rich and poor, and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands. Taxes are enforced exactions, not voluntary contributions. To demand more in the name of morals is mere cant.- Honorable Learned Hand, US Appeals Court Justice, Helvering v. Gregory, 69 F. 2d 809, 810 (2nd Cir, 1934), aff'd 293 U.S. 465 (1935)

Now I will acknowledge that in recent years, this line of legal thought has lost a great number of adherents, and this is sad. It is this line of legal thought that created and upheld the Age of Reason, and allowed people to believe that they could be sovereigns in a civil society, and not subjects of tyrants' wishes. It is a matter of philosophy. The laws are there to be obeyed because to do otherwise would be a break with civil society, and would be a mark of a bad citizen. However, to demand that people do more than the laws demand, that they go beyond what is required by the laws, is forcing people to abandon their own self-interest and instead to follow the interests of the government. You are turning a citizen who is sovereign, to a subject who must consider the interests of his sovereign before his own interests and before even the requirements of the law.

I choose to be a citizen who is a sovereign, not a subject who must consider the interests of my liege even above my own, and who must obey even beyond what the laws demand.

To Mr. TaxHavenUSA:

I don' think you're going to find your clients here. This is not a client finding haven. It's the idea factory haven, so I thought. Where are the ideas?!?!?!?!