Pertinent Quotes

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A thread for pertinent quotes from prominent personalities in finance, industry, and government.
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      Thu, October 20, 2005 - 6:15 AM
      "Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of
      commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that
      there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so
      interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak
      above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."

      Woodrow Wilson, The New Freedom (1913)
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    Wed, October 19, 2005 - 4:15 PM
    "The hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency; their sole object is gain."

    -Napoleon Bonaparte
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    Wed, October 19, 2005 - 4:19 PM
    "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be."

    "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation then by deflation, the banks and the corporations will grow up around them, will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."

    "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies."

    "I wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to our constitution - taking from the federal government their power of borrowing."

    -Thomas Jefferson
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    Wed, October 19, 2005 - 4:23 PM
    "The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer."

    "I can think of no faster way to unite the American people behind George W. Bush than a terrorist attack on an American target overseas. And I believe George W. Bush will quickly unite the American people through his foreign policy."

    "I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves."

    -Henry Kissinger
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    Thu, October 20, 2005 - 5:52 AM
    "The process of transformation, even if it brings
    revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one,
    absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event -- like
    a new Pearl Harbor"

    - Project for a New American Century
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    Thu, October 20, 2005 - 5:53 AM
    "There is a chance that the President of the United States, to use
    this disaster to carry out what his father, a phrase his father used
    I think only once, and hasn't been used since, and that is a New
    World Order."

    -- Former Congressman Gary Hart, speaking after Sept. 11, 2001 at a
    CFR meeting, co-chair of United States Commission on National
    Security, the Hart-Rudman Commission, which issued a three-phase
    report, "New World Coming", "A Road Map for National Security" for
    the creation of the National Homeland Security Agency.
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    Thu, October 20, 2005 - 5:57 AM
    "The world is governed by very different personages from what is
    imagined by those who are not behind the scenes." Benjamin Disraeli,
    first Prime Minister of England, in a novel he published in 1844
    called Coningsby, the New Generation

    "The governments of the present day have to deal not merely with
    other governments, with emperors, kings and ministers, but also with the
    secret societies which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and
    can at the last moment upset all the governments' plans. "

    British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, 1876
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    "Childbearing [should be] a punishable crime against society unless the
    parents hold a government license ... All potential parents [should be]
    required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes
    to citizens chosen for childbearing."

    -David Brower - first Executive Director of the Sierra Club, founder of
    Friends of the Earth, and founder of the Earth Island Insitute -
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    Thu, October 20, 2005 - 5:58 AM
    "The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for
    multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests
    by seizing control of the political government of the United States.
    The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort
    to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power political,
    monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral
    Commission intends is to create a worldwide economic power superior
    to the political governments of the nationstates involved. As
    managers and creators of the system ,they will rule the future."

    U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater in his l964 book: With No Apologies.
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    Thu, October 20, 2005 - 6:00 AM
    "The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-
    world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the
    same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I
    do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope,
    generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."

    Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines
    747 that was shot down by the Soviets
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      Thu, October 20, 2005 - 6:14 AM
      "We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by
      conquest or consent."

      Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg
      to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950




      "We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest
      this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the
      local nation states of the world."

      Professor Arnold Toynbee, in a June l931 speech before the Institute
      for the Study of International Affairs in Copenhagen.
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    Thu, October 20, 2005 - 6:01 AM
    "We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time
    Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended
    our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost
    forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan
    for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of
    publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more
    sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The
    supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers
    is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in
    past centuries."

    David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an
    address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991
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    Thu, October 20, 2005 - 6:03 AM
    "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial
    element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the
    days of Andrew Jackson."

    A letter written by FDR to Colonel House, November 21st, l933



    Curtis Dall, FDR's son-in-law as quoted in his book, My Exploited
    Father-in-Law:

    "For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and
    ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States.
    But, he didn't. Most of his thoughts, his political ammunition, as it
    were, were carefully manufactured for him in advanced by the Council
    on Foreign Relations-One World Money group. Brilliantly, with great
    gusto, like a fine piece of artillery, he exploded that
    prepared "ammunition" in the middle of an unsuspecting target, the
    American people, and thus paid off and returned his internationalist
    political support.

    "The UN is but a long-range, international banking apparatus clearly
    set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful
    One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power.

    "The depression was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the
    World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of
    supply of call money in the New York money market....The One World
    Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired
    full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the
    creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank."
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    "Every child in American who enters school with an allegiance toward
    our elected officials, toward our founding fathers, toward our
    institutions, toward the preservation of this form of government...
    all of this proves the children are sick, because the truly well
    individual is one who has rejected all of those things and is what I
    would call the true international child of the future".

    - Chester M. Pierce, Harvard University psychiatrist, at a 1973
    International Education Seminar, as quoted in "Educating For The New
    World Order" by B.K. Eakman
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    "I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and
    causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. ... corporations
    have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will
    follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong
    its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all
    wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."

    -U.S. President Abraham Lincoln, Nov. 21, 1864, letter to Col.
    William F. Elkins, in The Lincoln Encyclopedia, by Archer H. Shaw
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    Thu, October 20, 2005 - 6:26 AM

    "The men of the New Republic will not be squeamish either in facing
    or inflicting death.... They will have ideals that will make
    killing worthwhile.... They will hold that a certain portion of the
    population exists only on sufferance out of pity and patience, and
    on the understanding that they do not propagate; and I do not forsee
    any reason to suppose that they will hesitate to kill when that
    sufferance is abused"

    -H. G. Wells, 1924, 'The Works of H. G. Wells', London: T. F. Union
    and Co., vol. 4, pp. 258-259


    "In our towns we should make the streets narrower, crowd more people
    into the houses, and court the return of the plague."

    -English political economist Thomas Robert Malthus, 1798, 'An Essay
    on the Principle of Population'
    www.econlib.org/library/Ma...malPop.html




    "The total world population should be not more than 2 billion, rather
    than the current 5.6 billion."

    -Cornell University professor David Pimentel, speaking at the American
    Association for the Advancement of Science, 1994




    "A reasonable estimate for an industrialized world society at the
    present North American material standard of living would be 1
    billion. At the more frugal European standard, 2 to 3 billion would
    be possible."

    -UNEP Global Assessment Report, Phase One Draft, sec.9.
    According to the UN Population Census table, its 1 billion limit
    would take us back to the global population of the year 1804, and 2
    billion to 1927.




    "Cut the population by 90% and there aren't enough people left to do
    a great deal of ecological damage."

    -Dr. Sam Keen, philosopher, at the 'State of the World Forum',
    sponsored by the Gorbachev Foundation and attended by many world
    leaders, San Francisco, 1995, as quoted by William Jasper in 'Global
    Gorby', The New American, Oct. 30, 1995




    "We must cut out the cancer of population growth. Coercion?
    Perhaps, but coercion in a good cause .... We must be relentless in
    pushing for population control."

    -Paul R. Ehrlich, 1968, 'The Population Bomb', New York: Ballantine
    Books, p. 11




    "It's terrible to have to say this. World population must be
    stabilized and to do that we must eliminate 350,000 people per day"

    -Jacques Cousteau, quoted by Bahgat Elnadi and Adel Rifaat
    in 'Interview With Jacques-Yves Cousteau', The UNESCO Courier, Nov.
    1991, p. 13




    "At present the population of the world is increasing at about
    58,000 per diem. War, so far, has had no very great effect on this
    increase, which continued throughout each of the world wars.... War
    has hitherto been disappointing in this respect ... but perhaps
    bacteriological war may prove effective. If a Black Death could
    spread throughout the world once in every generation, survivors
    could procreate freely without making the world too full. The state
    of the world might be unpleasant, but what of it"

    Bertrand Russell, 1953, 'The Impact of Science on Society', New York:
    Simon and Schuster, pp. 102-104




    "A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95 percent
    decline from present levels would be ideal."

    -Ted Turner, quoted by Bruce Stutz in 'Ted Turner Turns It On',
    Audubon, November-December 1991




    "In the event I am reborn, I would like to return as a deadly virus,
    in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation"

    -Prince Philip, quoted in Deutsche Presse Agentur, August 1988




    On March 22, 1980, an anonymous Masonic Lodge in Georgia put up a
    large stone monument, the 'Georgia Guidestones', with their "New" Ten
    Commandments.

    Engraved on huge granite slabs in 12 different languages they are
    said to be dictated by anonymous 'guides'. Guideline Number One
    specifies that earth's population must be reduced to 1/2 billion in
    order to "balance with Nature", implying that at least 80% of
    humanity must be eliminated.
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    Thu, October 20, 2005 - 12:12 PM
    "My relationship to power and authority is that I'm all for it. People need somebody to watch over them... Ninety-five percent of the people in the world need to be told what to do and how to behave."

    -- Arnold Schwarzenegger at 44 to US News and World Report in 1990.

    "My friends don't want me to mention Kurt's name, because of all the recent Nazi stuff and the U.N. controversy, but I love him and Maria does too, and so thank you, Kurt."

    -- Arnold Schwarzenegger on his friend and fellow Austrian Kurt Waldheim, a Nazi war criminal

    "I was always dreaming about very powerful people, dictators and things like that. I was just always impressed by people who could be remembered for hundreds of years, or even, like Jesus, be for thousands of years remembered."

    -- Arnold Schwarzenegger in the 1977 film Pumping Iron
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    Thu, October 20, 2005 - 12:13 PM
    "Look, if you think any American official is going to tell you the truth, then you're stupid. Did you hear that? -- stupid."

    -- Sec. of Defense for Public Affairs, Arthur Sylvester, 1966.
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    Thu, October 20, 2005 - 6:00 PM
    “The two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can ‘throw the rascals out’ at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shift in policy.”

    -Carroll Quigley

    “The powers of financial capitalism had a far-reaching (plan), nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.”

    -Carroll Quigley

    “There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identity as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any group, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960's, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies, but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.”

    -Carroll Quigley (Clinton mentor, professor of history at the Foreign Service School of Georgetown University, formerly taught at Princeton and at Harvard, member of American Association for the Advancement of Science, the American Anthropological and the American Economic Association, lecturer at Industrial College of the Armed Forces, Brookings Institution, US Naval Weapons Laboratory, Foreign Service Institute of the State Department, and the Naval College at Norfolk, VA)
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    Thu, October 27, 2005 - 4:28 PM
    “To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family tradition, national patriotism, and religious dogmas....We have swallowed all manner of poisonous certainties fed us by our parents, our Sunday and day school teachers, our politicians, our priests....The reinterpretation and eventual eradication of the concept of right and wrong which has been the basis of child training, the substitution of intelligent and rational thinking for faith in the certainties of old people, these are the belated objectives...for charting the changes in human behavior.”

    - Brock Chislholm, 1959 Humanist of the Year and former head of World Health Organization, in the February 1946 issue of Psychiatry

    "In the world as it is today, this institution can hardly be a universal Church. It is more likely to be something like a League of Nations. I will not prophesy. I will merely repeat that we are at present working, discreetly but with all our might, to wrest this mysterious political force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local national states of our world. And all the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands, because to impugn the sovereignty of the local national states of the world is still a heresy for which a statesman or a publicist can be — perhaps not quite burnt at the stake, but certainly ostracized and discredited"

    - Arnold J. Toynbee, "The Trend of International Affairs Since the War," International Affairs, November 1931, p. 809

    "There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution."

    - Aldous Huxley's lecture to The California Medical School in San Francisco in 1961

    "We shall have a World government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World government will be achieved by conquest or consent."

    - James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, before the U.S. Senate
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    Thu, October 27, 2005 - 4:30 PM
    "Obviously our first step must be immediately to establish and advertise drastic policies designed to bring our own population size under control."

    "...The first task is population control at home. How do we go about it? Many of my colleagues feel that some sort of compulsory birth regulation would be necessary to achieve such control. One plan often mentioned involves the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government to produce the desired population size."

    - Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb, p.130-131
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      Fri, October 28, 2005 - 8:37 AM
      Hermann Goering Nazi General.

      "Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."

      "There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."

      "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
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    Tue, November 15, 2005 - 2:40 PM
    In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot.

    ~Mark Twain, Notebook, 1935
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    Thu, November 17, 2005 - 3:44 PM
    "To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism, and religious dogmas."

    - Brock Adams, Director UN Health Organization

    "We are not going to achieve a New World Order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money."

    - Arthur Schlesinger Jr., 'The CFR Journal Foreign Affairs', August 1975.

    "A world government can intervene militarily in the internal affairs of any nation when it disapproves of their activities."

    - Kofi Annan, U.N. Secretary General

    "The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."

    - Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets

    "In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."

    - Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.
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    Thu, November 17, 2005 - 3:45 PM
    "In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press....They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers.

    "An agreement was reached; the policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month; an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers."

    - U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway, 1917
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    Thu, November 17, 2005 - 3:58 PM
    "The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties."

    - New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922

    "We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world."

    - Professor Arnold Toynbee, in a June 1931 speech before the Institute for the Study of International Affairs in Copenhagen.
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    Fri, November 18, 2005 - 8:02 PM
    "The most remarkable development in the management of America's relations with other countries during the quarter-century since the end of World War II has been the assumption of more and more control over military, financial and diplomatic operations at home and abroad by men whose activities are secret, whose budget is secret, whose very identities as often as not are secret -- in short, by a Secret Team whose actions only those implicated in them are in a position to monitor and to understand."

    "The Secret Team does not like criticism, investigation, or history and is always prone to see the world as divided into but two camps -- "Them" and "Us". Sometimes the distinction may be as little as one dot, as in "So. Viets" and "Soviets," the So. Viets being our friends in Indochina, and the Soviets being the enemy of that period. To be a member, you don't question, you don't ask; it's "Get on the Team" or else. One of its most powerful weapons in the most political and powerful capitals of the world is that of exclusion. To be denied the "need to know" status, like being a member of the Team, even though one may have all the necessary clearances, is to be totally blackballed and eliminated from further participation. Politically, if you are cut from the Team and from its insider's knowledge, you are dead. In many ways and by many criteria the Secret Team is the inner sanctum of a new religious order."

    "The power of the Team derives from its vast intragovernmental undercover infrastructure and its direct relationship with great private industries, mutual funds and investment houses, universities, and the news media, including foreign and domestic publishing houses. The Secret Team has very close affiliations with elements of power in more than three-score foreign countries and is able when it chooses to topple governments, to create governments, and to influence governments almost anywhere in the world."

    - Colonel L. Fletcher Prouty, Pentagon/CIA Focal Point liason, 1955-1963
    • Who is the Team Leader?

      Fri, November 18, 2005 - 8:25 PM
      There must be one super-powerful necromancer cause I'm damn sure they don't make final decisions by vote of committee. Doesn't anybody realize this?
      • sorry i realize this is a quotes page

        Fri, November 18, 2005 - 10:45 PM
        i'll try to keep my rantings and ravings to a separate script. :)
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          Sat, November 19, 2005 - 4:26 PM
          "Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will willingly be relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by their world government."

          ~ Henry Kissinger

          The question is if the threat is real or created BY the government. We sold Saddam weapons to fight Iran, trained Osama to fight Russia, Invaded Afghanistan and Iraq to control Caspian Sea oil, and I recently read the CIA has stronger relationship with Pakistan than we could have ever imagined.

          Who WANTS to fight these days? Nobody I know or associate with...
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    Fri, November 18, 2005 - 8:32 PM
    "These men are not incompetent or stupid. They are crafty and brilliant. Consistency has never been a mark of stupidity. If they were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor."

    - James Forrestal, first secretary of defense, resigned March 2, 1949 at Truman’s request, later found “suicided” at Bethesda Naval Hospital
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    Fri, November 18, 2005 - 8:41 PM
    "It is useless to deny, because it is impossible to conceal, that a great part of Europe - the whole of Italy and France and a great portion of Germany, to say nothing of other countries - is covered with a network of these secret societies... And what are their objects? They do not attempt to conceal them. They do not want constitutional government... they want to change the tenure of land, to drive out the present owners of the soil and to put an end to ecclesiastical establishments."

    - British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli

    "The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes."

    - Supreme Court justice Felix Frankfurter

    "There are within our world perhaps only a dozen organizations which shape the courses of our various destinies as rigidly as the regularly constitued governments."

    - Elliot Roosevelt, son of Franklin Delano Roosevelt

    "The USA is not run by its would-be 'democratic' government. Nothing could be more pathetic than the role that has to be played by the president of the United States, whose power is approximately zero. Nevertheless, the news media and most over-thirty-years-of-age USA citizens carry on as if th president has supreme power."

    - R. Buckminster Fuller
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      Mon, November 21, 2005 - 7:28 PM
      "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest for freedom, go home and leave us in peace. We seek not your council nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." --Samuel Adams
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    Tue, November 22, 2005 - 3:47 PM
    A policeman's job is only easy in a police state.

    Hank Quinlan (Orson Welles)
    Touch of Evil
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    Fri, November 25, 2005 - 12:07 PM
    "War itself is the basic social system, within which other secondary modes of social organization conflict or conspire. It is the system which has governed most human societies of records, as it is today."

    "We must first reply, as strongly as we can, that the war system cannot responsibly be allowed to disappear until (1) we know exactly what [forms of social control] we plan to put in its place and (2) we are certain, beyond reasonable doubt, that these substitute institutions will serve their purposes."

    - The Report from Iron Mountain, 1966

    "American capitalism needed international rivalry - and periodic war - to create an artificial community of interest between rich and poor, supplanting the genuine community of interest among the poor that showed itself in sporadic movements."

    - Howard Zinn

    "War is a racket... War is largely a matter of money. Bankers lend money to foreign countries and when they cannot pay, the President sends Marines to get it."

    - Marine Maj. Gen. Smedley D. Butler
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    Thu, December 1, 2005 - 3:53 PM
    "It was not my intention to doubt that the doctrines of the Illuminati, and the principles of Jacobinism, had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more fully satisfied of this fact than I am."

    -President George Washington, 1782
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    Sat, December 3, 2005 - 8:30 PM
    "The division of the United States into federations of equal force was decided long before the Civil War by the high financial powers of Europe. These bankers were afraid that the United States, if they remained in one block and as one nation, would attain economic and financial independence, which would upset their financial domination over the world. The voice of the Rotheschilds prevailed... Therefore they sent their emissaries into the field to exploit the question of slavery and to open an abyss between the two sections of the Union."

    - German chancellor Otto von Bismarck
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    Sat, December 3, 2005 - 9:04 PM
    "To and for the establishment, promotion and development of a Secret Society, the true aim and object whereof shall be for the extension of British rule throughout the world, the perfecting of a system of emigration from the United Kingdom, and of colonisation by British subjects of all lands where the means of livelihood are attainable by energy, labour and enterprise, and especially the occupation by British settlers of the entire Continent of Africa, the Holy Land, the Valley of the Euphrates, the Islands of Cyprus and Candia, the whole of South America, the Islands of the Pacific not heretofore possessed by Great Britain, the whole of the Malay Archipelago, the seaboard of China and Japan, the ultimate recovery of the United States of America as an integral part of the British Empire, the inauguration of a system of Colonial representation in the Imperial Parliament which may tend to weld together the disjointed members of the Empire and, finally, the foundation of so great a Power as to render wars impossible, and promote the best interests of humanity."

    - the will of Cecil Rhodes [how philanthropic of him]

    "The Rhodes Scholarships... are known to everyone. What is not so widely known is that Rhodes in five previous wills left his fortune to form a secret society, which was to devote itself to the preservation and expansion of the British Empire. And what does not seem to be known to anyone is that this secret society... continues to exist to this day."

    - Carroll Quigley
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    Sat, December 3, 2005 - 10:33 PM
    "It seems to me that the nature of the ultimate revolution with which we are now faced is precisely this: That we are in process of developing a whole series of techniques which will enable the controlling oligarchy who have always existed and presumably will always exist to get people to love their servitude. This is the, it seems to me, the ultimate in malevolent revolutions shall we say, and this is a problem which has interested me many years and about which I wrote thirty years ago, a fable, Brave New World, which is an account of society making use of all the devices available and some of the devices which I imagined to be possible making use of them in order to, first of all, to standardize the population, to iron out inconvenient human differences, to create, to say, mass produced models of human beings arranged in some sort of scientific caste system. Since then, I have continued to be extremely interested in this problem and I have noticed with increasing dismay a number of the predictions which were purely fantastic when I made them thirty years ago have come true or seem in process of coming true.

    A number of techniques about which I talked seem to be here already. And there seems to be a general movement in the direction of this kind of ultimate revolution, a method of control by which a people can be made to enjoy a state of affairs by which any decent standard they ought not to enjoy."

    "And the same way with various technological advances now, I mean we need to think about the problems with automation and more profoundly the problems, which may arise with these new techniques, which may contribute to this ultimate revolution. Our business is to be aware of what is happening, and then to use our imagination to see what might happen, how this might be abused, and then if possible to see that the enormous powers which we now possess thanks to these scientific and technological advances to be used for the benefit of human beings and not for their degradation."

    - Aldous Huxley, author of Brave New World, during 1962 speech at Cal Berkeley.

    Full transcript: tribes.tribe.net/infobunke...50a9add86a
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    Wed, December 7, 2005 - 8:52 PM
    "Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established, should not be changed for light and transient causes; and, accordingly, all experience [has] shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce [the people] under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security." --Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of Independence, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:429
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    Tue, December 20, 2005 - 11:50 PM
    "Those that create and issue the money and credit direct the policies of government and hold in their hands the destiny of the people."

    -Reginald McKenna, President of the Midlands Bank of England
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    Mon, December 26, 2005 - 5:37 PM
    "Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."

    -Sir Winston Churchill
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    Mon, December 26, 2005 - 5:44 PM
    "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking."

    -General George S. Patton

    "I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crisis. The great point is to bring them the real facts."

    -Abraham Lincoln

    "It is one thing to show a man that he is in error, and another to put him in possession of the truth."

    -John Locke

    "I deny the lawfulness of telling a lie to a sick man for fear of alarming him; you have no business with consequences, you are to tell the truth."

    -Samuel Johnson

    "Such is the irresistible nature of truth that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing. "

    -Thomas Paine

    "The soul is the perceiver and revealer of truth. We know truth when we see it, let skeptic and scoffer say what they choose. Foolish people ask you, when you have spoken what they do not wish to hear, 'How do you know it is truth, and not an error of your own?' We know truth when we see it, from opinion, as we know when we are awake that we are awake."

    -Ralph Waldo Emerson, Essays and English Traits (From. Essays VIII. The Over-Soul 1841)
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    Mon, December 26, 2005 - 6:12 PM
    "It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government"

    -Thomas Paine

    "I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over the last 49 years, they would move on Washington; they would not wait for an election....It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States!"

    -George W. Malone, U.S. Senator (Nevada), speaking before Congress in 1957.

    "I am concerned for the security of our great nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insideous forces working from within."

    - General Douglas MacArthur
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    Thu, February 2, 2006 - 11:02 AM
    "Those who manipulate the unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested largely by men we have never heard of.

    This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society.

    In almost every act of our lives whether in the sphere of politics or business in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires that control the public mind."

    -Edward Bernays, Father of Spin, Grandfather of Advertising, and nephew of Sigmund Freud, in his book "Propaganda"
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    Wed, February 8, 2006 - 2:25 PM
    "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth."

    - Albert Einstein

    Thanks to Patrick... fighting the good fight over in Intelligent Social-Political Discussion.
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    Fri, February 10, 2006 - 6:42 PM
    "It is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it."

    - Patrick Henry, 1775, from his "Give me liberty, or give me death" speech tothe Virginia House of Burgesses
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      Sat, February 11, 2006 - 7:13 AM
      Entertainment Industry quote from South Park Soundtrack
      Isaac Hayes = Suck on my choclate salty ballz! Put'em in your mouth and suck'em!" : )
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        Sat, February 11, 2006 - 7:27 AM
        I have a cd & book by Fletcher Prouty & think they're very interesting! Abraxas you better let me know when you get home dude! We gotta meet for coffee or go shoot some pool & swig a few beers or something & discuss how we intend to change the world for the better. May sound kind of lame but I do actually think about this often. Each day passes & I think to myself "What have I actually done to make the world a better place?" But sometimes just discussing things with others & just taking care of yourself and such can be just that. Even if all we can do may seem like it's not much to us or to others at least we are conscious of it and trying. Who knows, even if it's not one of us we could possibly inspire one person or total global consciousness for the better. Abraxas I'm fascinated by the extent of subjects you are knowledgable about. In my everyday life at work & if I meet people out in public it's not often I will talk to anyone about but a small fraction of such things. This is why I love this forum. I'm wondering if you know anything about Maitreya & Benjamin Creme & Share International and what do you think?
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          Sat, February 11, 2006 - 7:31 AM
          You're going to die a horrible death, remember. It's all good training, and you'll enjoy it more if you keep the facts in mind.
          Take your dying with some seriousness, however. Laughing on the way to your execution it not generally understood by less advanced lifeforms, and they'll call you crazy.
          Illusions, Richard Bach, Delacorte Press, New York, 1977
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    Mon, February 13, 2006 - 6:28 AM
    "National Socialism will use its own revolution for establishing a new world order."
    -- Adolph Hitler during World War II


    "Out of these troubled times, a New World Order can emerge under a United Nations that performs as envisioned by its founders."
    -- President George Bush, September 11, 1990 State of the Union


    "When the struggle seems to be drifting defiantly towards a world social democracy there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people - will hate the New World Order - and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people."
    -- H.G. Wells, in his book entitled, "The New World Order" (1939)


    "We are not going to achieve a New World Order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money."
    -- Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in "Foreign Affairs," July/August Issue 1995


    "Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
    -- Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991


    "If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
    -- George W. Bush, 12/18/00, CNN


    "In short, the 'house of world order' will have to be built from the bottom up, rather than from the top down. It will look like a great 'booming, buzzing confusion' to use William James' famous description of reality, but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault."
    -- Richard N. Gardner in "Foreign Affairs," April 1974


    "No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation."
    -- David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations


    "A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."
    -- Ted Turner, in an interview with Audubon magazine.


    "I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus."
    -- Prince Philip, in his Foreward to If I Were an Animal; United Kingdom, Robin Clark Ltd., 1986.


    "In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."
    -- Prince Philip Reported by Deutsche Press Agentur (DPA), August, 1988.


    "I don't claim to have any special interest in natural history, but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in the number of game animals and the need to adjust the 'cull' to the size of the surplus population."
    -- Preface to Down to Earth by HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, 1988, p.8.


    "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."
    -- David Rockefeller


    "It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegance."
    -- President George Herbert Walker Bush Addressing the General Assembly of the United Nations, February 1, 1992


    "But this present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful an interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for long. Already there are powerful forces at work that threaten to destroy all our hopes and efforts to erect an enduring structure of global interdependence."
    -- David Rockefeller Speaking at the Business Council for the United Nations, September 14, 1994


    "In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."
    -- Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.


    "We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent."
    -- Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950 (Warburg banking family)


    "Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed"
    -- Sarah Brady, Chairman of Handgun Control to Senator Howard Metzanbaum, "The National Educator," January 1994 Page 3


    "When we got organized as a country, and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans…and so a lot of people say there's too much personal freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it. That's what we did in the announcement I made last weekend on the public housing projects, about how we're going to have weapon sweeps and more things like that to try to make people safer in their communities."
    -- President Bill Clinton, 3-22-94, MTV's "Enough is Enough"


    "We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans."
    -- President Bill Clinton, "USA Today," March 11, 1993, Page 2A


    "Whatever the price of the Chinese Revolution, it has obviously succeeded not only in producing more efficient and dedicated administration, but also in fostering high morale and community of purpose. The SOCIAL EXPERIMENT in China under Chairman Mao's leadership is one of the most important and successful in human history." David Rockefeller Statement in 1973 about Mao Tse-Tung, New York Times, August 10, 1973


    "The truth of the matter is that you do have those standby provisions, and the statutory emergency plans are there whereby you could, in the name of stopping terrorism, apprehend, invoke the military, and arrest Americans and hold them in detention camps."
    -- U.S. Representative Henry Gonzalez, August 29, 1994


    "We are moving toward a new world order, the world of communism. We shall never turn off that road."
    -- Mikhail Gorbachev 1987


    "Even though it is quite true that any radical eugenic policy will be for many years politically and psychologically impossible, it will be important for UNESCO to see that the eugenic problem is examined with the greatest care, and that the public mind is informed of the issues at stake so that much that now is unthinkable may at least become thinkable."
    -- Sir Julian Huxley, first Director General of UNESCO, 1946-1948


    "Since March 9, 1933, the United states has been in a state of national emergency. A majority of the people of the United States have their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years freedoms and governmental procedures, guaranteed by the Constitution have, in varying degrees, been abridged by laws brought forth by states of national emergency."
    -- Senate Report 93-549 (1973).


    "Under Socialism you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not the character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner. . . ." [This is compassionate liberalism.]
    -- Fabian Socialist Bernard Shaw in his Intelligent Woman's Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, 1928.


    "Beware the leader who bangs the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into a patriotic fervor, for patriotism is indeed a double-edged sword. It both emboldens the blood, just as it narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached a fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need in seizing the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so. How do I know? For this is what I have done. And I am Caesar."
    -- Julius Caesar


    "The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State."
    -- Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels in His Diary

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      Mon, February 13, 2006 - 10:31 PM
      David Spangler. WOW! Talk about a blast from the past!

      HG Wells was a Luciferian Satanist that also worked for Brittish Intelligence as did Aleister Crowley. Eeee Heee!!!!!!!

      Did you quote H.P. Blavatsky? Funny how so many people read her stuff and don't know the Nazi's where all about this stuff! I agree with alot of it but not everything. That's the tricky part of it all for me is because I actually do believe alot of these truths yet when it comes to "purging humanity of its diseased members" etc.... I can't dig on with that shit. No matter what new term you use it's all the same thing. MURDER / GENOCIDE / TORTURE / etc....

      Cheers Happy thoughts! La la la!!!
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    Tue, February 14, 2006 - 5:22 AM
    "Compassionate conservatism [is] most importantly, making sure that government is not the answer to people's problems."

    -- George W. Bush, 12/5/98
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    Tue, February 14, 2006 - 5:31 AM
    In this decisive year, you and I will make choices that determine both the future and the character of our country. We will choose to act confidently in pursuing the enemies of FREEDOM -- or retreat from our duties in the hope of an easier life. ...Every step toward FREEDOM in the world makes our country safer -- so we will act boldly in FREEDOM's cause. Far from being a hopeless dream, the advance of FREEDOM is the great story of our time. ...We're writing a new chapter in the story of self-government -- with women lining up to vote in Afghanistan, and millions of Iraqis marking their liberty with purple ink, and men and women from Lebanon to Egypt debating the rights of individuals and the necessity of FREEDOM. ...And we do not forget the other half -- in places like Syria and Burma, Zimbabwe, North Korea, and Iran -- because the demands of justice, and the peace of this world, require their FREEDOM, as well. No one can deny the success of FREEDOM, but some men rage and fight against it. ...We love our FREEDOM, and we will fight to keep it. ...[We're] helping the Iraqi government to fight corruption and build a modern economy, so all Iraqis can experience the benefits of FREEDOM. And third we're striking terrorist targets while we train Iraqi forces that are increasingly capable of defeating the enemy. Iraqis are showing their courage every day, and we are proud to be their allies in the cause of FREEDOM. ...Ultimately, the only way to defeat the terrorists is to defeat their dark vision of hatred and fear by offering the hopeful alternative of political FREEDOM and peaceful change. ...Tonight, let me speak directly to the citizens of Iran. America respects you, and we respect your country. We respect your right to choose your own future and win your own FREEDOM. ...In all these areas -- from the disruption of terror networks, to victory in Iraq, to the spread of FREEDOM and hope in troubled regions -- we need the support of our friends and allies. ...American leaders -- from Roosevelt to Truman to Kennedy to Reagan -- rejected isolation and retreat, because they knew that America is always more secure when FREEDOM is on the march. ...Together, let us protect our country, support the men and women who defend us, and lead this world toward FREEDOM. ...America is a great force for FREEDOM and prosperity. ...Before history is written down in books, it is written in courage. Like Americans before us, we will show that courage and we will finish well. We will lead FREEDOM's advance.
    -- George W. Bush, 2006 State of the Union Address, Jan. 31, 2006 (On the Dubya freedom scale, this speech claims third prize, falling short of the 2005 State of the Union and his 2005 inaugural address.)
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    Tue, February 21, 2006 - 12:39 PM
    "Ninety-nine [students] out of a hundred are automata, careful to walk in prescribed paths, careful to follow the prescribed custom. This is not an accident but the result of substantial education, which, scientifically defined, is the subsumption of the individual."

    -William Torrey Harris, US Commissioner of Education from 1889 to 1906
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    Wed, March 8, 2006 - 8:14 PM
    "In our dream, we have limitless resources, and the people yield themselves with perfect docility to our molding hand. The present educational conventions fade from our minds; and, unhampered by tradition, we work our own good will upon a grateful and responsive folk. We shall not try to make these people or any of their children into philosophers or men of learning or science. We are not to raise up from among them authors, orators, poets, or men of letters. We shall not search for embryo great artists, painters, musicians. Nor will we cherish even the humbler ambition to raise up from among them lawyers, doctors, preachers, politicians, statesmen, of whom we now have ample supply."

    - Frederick Gates, Rockefeller Foundation Director of Charity, 1913

    (thanks to Rush)
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    Wed, March 8, 2006 - 8:16 PM
    "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

    - Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence

    "We have, in this country, one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board. This evil institution has impoverished the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it".

    -- Congressman Louis T. McFadden in 1932 (Rep. Pa)

    "The Federal Reserve banks are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this nation is run by the International bankers

    -- Congressman Louis T. McFadden (Rep. Pa)

    "Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are the United States government's institutions. They are not government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign swindlers"

    -- Congressional Record 12595-12603 -- Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency (12 years) June 10, 1932

    (thanks to Dave)
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    Wed, March 8, 2006 - 9:59 PM
    "The Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President [Wilson] signs this Bill, the invisible government of the monetaary power will be legalized....The greatest crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill."

    -Congressman Charles Lindbergh
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    Tue, March 14, 2006 - 10:44 AM
    "It is well that the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

    - Henry Ford
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    Thu, April 27, 2006 - 6:55 PM
    "Who ever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industury and commerce..... And where you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another. by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate"

    ~ James Garfield, shortly prior to his assassination
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    Fri, May 5, 2006 - 1:19 PM
    “These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict the more glorious the triumph."

    -Thomas Paine
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    Sun, August 20, 2006 - 5:07 PM
    "Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."

    -David Rockefeller in his book, 'Memoirs', pg 405
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      "I have met the enemy and he is us."~Pogo Possum
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        <Many that live deserve death. And some die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then be not too eager to deal out death in the name of justice, fearing for your own safety. Even the wise cannot see all ends.>~ Gandalf the Grey
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    Fri, September 8, 2006 - 11:02 AM
    "The world is not the way they tell you it is."
    -Adam Smith, 1723-1790, economist and philosopher

    "The news and truth are not the same thing."
    -Walter Lippmann, 1889-1974, American journalist

    "A nation of well informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins."
    -Benjamin Franklin, 1706-1790, American statesman and inventor

    "If you want to know about the world and understand and educate yourself, you have to dig; dig up books and articles, read and find out for yourself."
    -John Stockwell, the highest-ranking CIA official ever to leave the agency and go public, from a lecture given in October 1987

    "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."
    -Aldous Huxley, 1894-1963, English novelist and critic

    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self- evident."
    -Arthur Schopenhauer, 1788-1860, German philosopher

    "Television is altering the meaning of 'being informed' by creating a species of information that might properly be called disinformation...Disinformation does not mean false information. It means misleading information - misplaced, irrelevant, fragmented or superficial information - information that creates the illusion of knowing something, but which in fact leads one away from knowing."
    -Neil Postman, author, and professor at NYU

    "Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have."
    -Richard Salant, former president CBS news, from the book, Economic Solutions by Peter Kershaw, page 29

    "We paid $3 billion for these television stations. We will decide what the news is. The news is what we tell you it is."
    -David Boylan, WTVT Tampa Bay, FL station manager, April 16, 1997

    "The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."
    -William Colby, former CIA director

    "Disinformation is a large part of its (CIA) covert action responsibility, and the American people are the primary target of its lies."
    -Ralph McGehee, former CIA intelligence analyst, author of Deadly Deceits: My 25 Years in the CIA

    "The (CIA) Agency has owned outright more than 240 Media operations around the world, including newspapers, magazines, publishing houses, radio and television stations, and wire services, and has partially controlled many more."
    -Michael Parenti, political scientist and author

    "The enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what Americans think their leaders are doing is one of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominant political mythology."
    -Michael Parenti, author and lecturer

    "The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
    -J. Edgar Hoover, director of the FBI from 1924 to 1972

    "A secret combination that seeks to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations, and countries is increasing in its evil influence and control over America and the entire world."
    -Ezra Taft Benson, 1899-1994, Secretary of Agriculture during the Eisenhower adminsitration

    "A clique of U.S. industrialists is hell-bent to bring a fascist state to supplant our democratic government and is working closely with the fascist regime in Germany and Italy. I have had plenty of opportunity in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi regime...Certain American industrialists had a great deal to do with bringing fascist regimes into being in both Germany and Italy. They extended aid to help Fascism occupy the seat of power, and they are helping to keep it there."
    -William E. Dodd, U.S. Ambassador to Germany, 1937

    "Fifty men have run America and that's a high figure."
    -Joseph Kennedy, the father of president John F. Kennedy

    "Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people."
    -Theodore Roosevelt, 26th President, April 19, 1906

    "The ultimate aim of the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) is to create a one-world socialist system, and to make the U.S. an official part of it."
    -Dan Smoot, former member of the FBI Headquarters staff in Washington, DC

    "Somewhere at the top of the pyramid in the invisible government are a few sinister people who know exactly what they are doing: They want America to become part of a worldwide socialist dictatorship..."
    -Dan Smoot, author of The Invisible Government

    "The CFR, dedicated to one world government, financed by a number of the largest tax-exempt foundations, and wielding such power and influence over our lives in the areas of finance, business, labor, military, education, and mass communication-media should be familiar to every American..."
    -John R. Rarick, Lousiana Congressman

    "The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It financed Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Zionism, Socialism. All of these are directed to making the United States a member of a World Government..."
    -American Mercury Magazine, December 1957, page 92
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    Sun, September 17, 2006 - 2:11 PM
    "It is a commonplace that "you can't keep secrets in Washington" or "in a democracy," that "no matter how sensitive the secret, you're likely to read it the next day in the New York Times." These truisms are flatly false. They are in fact cover stories, ways of flattering and misleading journalists and their readers, part of the process of keeping secrets well. Of course eventually many secrets do get out that wouldn't in a fully totalitarian society. ... But the fact is that the overwhelming majority of secrets do not leak to the American public. This is true even when the information withheld is well known to an enemy and when it is clearly essential to the functioning of the congressional war power and to any democratic control of foreign policy. The reality unknown to the public and to most members of Congress and the press is that secrets that would be of the greatest import to many of them can be kept from them reliably for decades by the executive branch, even though they are known to thousands of insiders."

    -Daniel Ellsberg, former military analyst and leaker of the "Pentagon Papers", from his book "Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers"
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    Wed, November 1, 2006 - 2:28 PM
    "War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious."

    “I spent 33 years in the Marines. Most of my time being a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism.”

    “War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses."

    "In this war – as in others – I am less interested in honoring the dead than in preventing the dead."

    "There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights."

    "I wouldn’t go to war again as I have done to defend some lousy investment of the bankers … we should fight only for the defense of our home and the Bill of Rights … war for any other reason is simply a racket."

    "The state has, in order to control us, introduced division into our thinking, so that we come to distrust others and look to the state for protection."

    "There isn't a trick in the racketeering bag that the military gang is blind to. It had its ‘finger men’ to point out enemies, its ‘muscle men’ to destroy enemies, its ‘brain men’ to plan war preparations and a ‘Big Boss’ – supernationalistic capitalism."

    - US Marine Corp Major General Smedley Butler
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    Mon, November 20, 2006 - 12:44 AM
    "Whenever the legislators endeavor to take and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience."

    -John Locke, 1690
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    Mon, November 20, 2006 - 1:07 PM
    "Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period, and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate systematical plan of reducing us to slavery."

    -Thomas Jefferson
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    Fri, January 26, 2007 - 12:46 AM
    "A revolution is coming - a revolution which will be peaceful if we are wise enough; compassionate if we care enough; successful if we are fortunate enough - but a revolution which is coming whether we will it or not. We can affect its character, we cannot alter its inevitability."

    ~ John F. Kennedy
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    Wed, March 21, 2007 - 7:19 PM
    'This dearth of positive leadership from the federal government is not confined to one particular political party. Both political parties have betrayed the cause of justice. "

    ~ Dr. Martin Luther King, 1957
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    Wed, March 21, 2007 - 8:07 PM
    "If the Soviet Union were to disappear off the face of the map, the United States would quickly seek out new enemies to justify its own military-industrial complex."

    "Enemies are necessary for the wheels of the U.S. military machine to turn."

    "It is the function of the CIA to keep the world unstable, and to propagandize and teach the American people to hate and fear, so we will let the Establishment spend any amount of money on arms."

    "The CIA and the big corporations were, in my experience, in step with each other. Later I realized that they may argue about details of strategy - a small war here or there. However, both are vigorously committed to supporting the system."

    "... the CIA had been running thousands of operations over the years... there have been about 3,000 major covert operations and over 10,000 minor operations... all designed to disrupt, destabilize, or modify the activities of other countries... But they are all illegal and they all disrupt the normal functioning, often the democratic functioning, of other societies. They raise serious questions about the moral responsibility of the United States in the international society of nations."

    "...the CIA has overthrown functioning democracies in over 20 countries."

    "...stirring up deadly ethnic and racial strife has been a standard technique used by the CIA."

    "The First Amendment does not require anyone to publish the truth."

    "The owners of the Washington Post long ago acknowledged that the Post is the government's voice to the people. In 1981, Katherine Graham, who owns the Post and Newsweek announced that her editors would "cooperate with the national security interests." National security in this context means "CIA.""

    "The so-called "defense" corporations are multinational conglomerates that have no great loyalty to the United States; they are in fact no longer U.S. corporations but transnational entities loyal only to themselves."

    "The military has ... seen its budget restored, to an all-time high, and it has ...new rationales for continued dominance of U.S. society. The Third World is the new enemy, effectively replacing the Cold War rationales for militarism."

    ".. the United States [is] cast in the role of Praetorian Guard, protecting the interests of the global financial order against fractious elements in the Third World."

    "As the Praetorian Guard, fighting wars for multinational interests while also paying for such adventures, our relative economic stability, domestic social and material infrastructure, and the freedom and liberties of the American people may all be forfeited."

    ~ John Stockwell, The Praetorian Guard : The US Role In The New World Order (1990)

    "Coming to grips with these U.S./CIA activities in broad numbers and figuring out how many people have been killed in the jungles of Laos or the hills of Nicaragua is very difficult. But, adding them up as best we can, we come up with a figure of six million people killed-and this is a minimum figure. Included are: one million killed in the Korean War, two million killed in the Vietnam War, 800,000 killed in Indonesia, one million in Cambodia, 20,000 killed in Angola ... and 22,000 killed in Nicaragua. These people would not have died if U.S. tax dollars had not been spent by the CIA to inflame tensions, finance covert political and military activities and destabilize societies.

    "Certainly, there are other local, regional, national and international factors in many of these operations, but if the CIA were tried fairly in a U.S. court, under U.S. law, the principle of complicity, incitement, riot, and mayhem would clearly apply. In the United States, if you hire someone to commit a murder your sentence may be approximately the same as that of the murderer himself.

    "Who are these six million people we have killed in the interest of American national security? Conservatives tell us, "It's a dangerous world. Our enemies have to die so we can be safe and secure." Some of them say, "I'm sorry, but that's the way the world is. We have to accept this reality and defend ourselves, to make our nation safe and insure our way of life."

    "Since 1954, however, we have not parachuted teams into the Soviet Union - our number one enemy - to destabilize that country... Neither do we run these violent operations in England, France, Sweden, Norway, Belgium, or Switzerland. Since the mid-1950s they have all been conducted in Third World countries where governments do not have the power to force the United States to stop its brutal and destabilizing campaigns.

    "One might call this the "Third World War." It is a war that has been fought by the United States against the Third World. Others call it the Cold War and focus on the anti-Communist and anti-Soviet rationales, but the dead are not Soviets; they are people of the Third World. It might also be called the Forty-Year War, like the Thirty-Year and Hundred-Year Wars in Europe, for this one began when the CIA was founded in 1947 and continues today. Altogether, perhaps twenty million people died in the Cold War. As wars go, it has been the second or third most destructive of human life in all of history, after World War I and World War II.

    "The six million people the CIA has helped to kill are people of the Mitumba Mountains of the Congo, the jungles of Southeast Asia, and the hills of northern Nicaragua. They are people without ICBMs or armies or navies, incapable of doing physical damage to the United States the 22,000 killed in Nicaragua, for example, are not Russians; they are not Cuban soldiers or advisors; they are not even mostly Sandinistas. A majority are rag-poor peasants, including large numbers of women and children.

    "Communists? Hardly, since the dead Nicaraguans are predominantly Roman Catholics. Enemies of the United States? That description doesn't fit either, because the thousands of witnesses who have lived in Nicaraguan villages with the people since 1979 testify that the Nicaraguans are the warmest people on the face of the earth, that they love people from the United States, and they simply cannot understand why our leaders would want to spend $1 billion on a contra force designed to murder people and wreck the country."

    ~ John Stockwell, The Praetorian Guard : The US Role In The New World Order (1990). Stockwell is a 13 year CIA veteran, former covert task force chief, former CIA paramilitary/intel case officer, Africa & southeast Asia. youtube.com/watch
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    Tue, June 19, 2007 - 8:34 PM
    "If you want to remain slaves of the bankers and pay for the costs of your own slavery, let them continue to create money and control the nation's credit."

    ~ Sir Josiah Stamp, 1880-1941
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    Fri, August 17, 2007 - 9:48 AM
    "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue."

    -- Barry Goldwater

    (thanks to Sean)
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    Sat, August 18, 2007 - 12:57 PM
    "The most alarming sign of the state of our society now is that our leaders have the courage to sacrifice the lives of young people in war but have not the courage to tell us that we must be less greedy and less wasteful."

    Wendell Berry
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    Tue, August 21, 2007 - 8:43 AM
    "What you have to understand, John, is that sometimes there are forces and events too big, too powerful, with so much at stake for other people or institutions, that you cannot do anything about them, no matter how evil or wrong they are and no matter how dedicated or sincere you are or how much evidence you have. This is simply one of the hard facts of life you have to face."

    - Former CIA director and Cercle member William Colby giving advice to his friend senator John DeCamp, urging him to quit his investigations into the Franklin child abuse affair and to write a book about his experiences (The Franklin Coverup, 2nd edition, foreword).

    (I don't necessarily agree that you "cannot do anything about them," but a telling quote nonetheless)
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    Fri, September 21, 2007 - 9:22 AM
    "Well, first of all, the Federal Reserve is an independent agency, and that means, basically, that there is no other agency of government which can overrule actions that we take. So long as that is in place and there is no evidence that the administration or the Congress or anybody else is requesting that we do things other than what we think is the appropriate thing, then what the relationships are don't, frankly, matter.”

    - Alan Greenspan, PBS, 9-18-07
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    Thu, September 18, 2008 - 10:36 AM
    "A lot of what we (the National Endowment for Democracy) do today was done covertly 25 years ago by the CIA."

    -Allen Weinstein, first acting president of the National Endowment for Democracy, to the Washington Post on September 22, 1991.
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    Sun, October 5, 2008 - 11:03 PM
    We began with freedom.

    - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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      Mon, October 13, 2008 - 1:55 PM
      "My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of the higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military."
      Smedley Butler

      "There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights."
      Smedley Butler

      "War is a racket. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."
      Smedley Butler

      "War is just a racket... I believe in adequate defense at the coastline and nothing else."
      Smedley Butler
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    Tue, October 28, 2008 - 10:55 PM
    "Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more
    damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself."
    [President Jimmy Carter, Aug. 2, 1977]
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    Sat, April 4, 2009 - 1:31 PM
    "Left and Right mean nothing, all that counts is are you working for Wall Street or are you trying to protect the people from the financiers?"

    Webster Tarpley
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      Sat, September 12, 2009 - 5:46 PM
      "I will provide a propagandistic casus belli. Its credibility doesn't matter. The victor will not be asked whether he told the truth."
      — Adolf Hitler to his generals, prior to the start of World War II
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        Sun, November 1, 2009 - 2:48 AM
        Lesley Stahl: "We have heard that half a million children have died. That is more than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?"

        Secretary of State Madeline Albright: "I think this is a very hard choice. But the price---we think the price is worth it."

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