Once upon a time..... when I first became sought to embrace my Native American heritage, a wise woman/friend/counselor by the name of Arlene Red Elk told me, in regards to my feeling separated from my Native-ness my whole life by my Caucasian upbringing,
"You can't walk with your feet in two canoes."
She was a very wise -- and very funny! - woman who I will never forget, although we haven't been in touch for years. Her words have come back to me time and time again, whenever I felt that different aspects of my life were in conflict.
Lately, I'm feeling this same way again. I'm soooooooo powerfully drawn to -- and becoming increasingly involved in -- both the Native American and bellydance worlds... and it's making me feel like I'm trying to walk with my feet in two canoes.
Anyone?
"You can't walk with your feet in two canoes."
She was a very wise -- and very funny! - woman who I will never forget, although we haven't been in touch for years. Her words have come back to me time and time again, whenever I felt that different aspects of my life were in conflict.
Lately, I'm feeling this same way again. I'm soooooooo powerfully drawn to -- and becoming increasingly involved in -- both the Native American and bellydance worlds... and it's making me feel like I'm trying to walk with my feet in two canoes.
Anyone?
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Tue, February 28, 2006 - 11:15 AMI totally feel you. My whole life I've had that issue where I've felt like I've been trying to walking "with my feet in two canoes." I'm mixed with a lot of interesting bloodlines that I've always wanted to know more about (Korean, European, Native American, Roma). I was mostly brought up between Korea and the States, so I've already been walking that line between "raised Asian but never fully accepted because I'm a half-breed and not quite accepted as European because I'm very clearly mixed." I feel like I've had a seperation from really essential parts of my ancestry, but in some cases that couldn't be helped. My grandmother who is the Native American and Roma one was adopted when she was born, so she's had that seperation her whole life and couldn't tell us a thing about that part of us. Okay, rambling... Trying to get back to my point, if I even had one.
I try not to think of it as walking with your feet in both canoes. What I've been trying to do is find a balance between all the things that I feel are so essentially part of it, taking those parts and making my own self. I've been feeling a strong pull towards my NA side as well as bellydance the last few years, I've been feeling a strong pull towards my Korean side, my Roma side, my European side... sometimes I feel like each is grabbing a limb and pulling, but I think it's possible to find a centre and, hell, build a new canoe out of spare parts!
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Tue, February 28, 2006 - 2:00 PMI can idendify with what you are feeling too...Like Astra, I'm also mixed with other very interesting heritages. I'm part Irish, and also part Spanish. It has difficult for me in the past, I would feel like I was neglecting parts of my heritage if I was showing more interest in another. I suppose that is where my fascination for other cultures came from. I guess for a while, I really paid more attentention to ANY other culture besides my own. So I went from totally embracing each of my heritages, to completely ignoring them to learn about others.
The result of that though, has been quite beautiful...I realize now, that it is okay to venture outside of my box and find beauty and interesting things about other cultures without being, what I thought was "untrue" to my own. I like what I've become.
Finding that you are "powerfully drawn" to bellydance (which may not be part of your bloodline) doesn't mean that you are being untrue to your Native side, or trying to be what you are not. All it means is that you find it interesting to express yourself through bellydance. You are being true to yourself.
By the way...putting together the Native American and Bellydance worlds is H-O-T!
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Wed, March 1, 2006 - 5:52 AMAhhhhhhh...... SO much to talk about in our little half-breed world!
And I, unlike many, don't mind the term "half-breed" at all. And all the Indians I know call themselves Indian most of the time and Native American only on occasion... But I'm neither politically correct nor fond of insulting or upsetting people -- so I use both. JUS' SO YA KNOW! Feel free to throw the terminology around, I find none of this stuff offending!
I'm an All-American Mutt myself -- besides Cherokee (and possibly Choctaw, but I'm not sure about that), I'm also English, Scottish, German and Greek. And probably a few other things, too! But when I was about 5 years old, I got it into my head that I was an Indian -- even though my mother kept telling me I wasn't, something inside me told me she was wrong! Well -- it was no surprise to me later when my grandmother told me that we ARE indeed Indian -- and explained that when she was little and when my mom was a kid, being an Indian was NOT something you'd cop to if you could avoid it! My grandmother and her mom lived a life of of "passing for white". And when my mom was a kid, Westerns were huge! And the Indians were the bad guys and that's all there was to it. So either my grandmother never told her, or told her and she had a hissy fit of embarrassment over being Indian, so it got dropped and forgotten. When I brought it up to my mom again, it was after my grandma died, and my mom looked at me like I was crazy, because she didn't remember ever being told she was Indian.
Anyway, I went through the Two Canoes thing in regards to my Indian heritage and White upbringing about 15 years ago. Having an Indian heart and an Indian way of thinking, that was an easy one for me. (People always asked me if I'm Indian because I look pretty Indian, I guess.... but having my ex-husband's obviously Indian last name and a half-breed son also made it easy to be accepted as Indian in everyday life.)
But where did this bellydance thing come from??? This was another thing I "thought" I was when I was very small -- a bellydancer! I'm technically "old" now (44) but when I was about 20, I wanted to take up bellydance and my family and friends were basically appalled and labeled me "weird", like "Aren't you weird enough already being a rock musician?". So I just continued to dance the way I always did -- like a bellydancer -- throughout my metal/punk/techno/rap club kid days and ever after, but never pursued bellydance until a couple of years ago.
When I finally got around to taking lessons a couple of years ago, I took to it like a duck to water. My teachers couldn't believe I wasn't middle eastern and had never taken lessons before. This past summer I married my second Indian husband (adopted and raised white, completely out of touch with his being Indian until now) and we moved to NW Wisconsin ("Indian Country" for sure), and here the Two Canoes thing came up again --
I think I was actually starting to become a bit accepted in the Indian community up here, til I told someone I'm also a bellydancer, and now I'm back on the "weirdo" list again! (Although I've managed to stay off the "new age freak" list.... I THINK! lol)
Sheesh. People are soooooooooooooo hardcore. :-)
OK, I'll quit babbling now and wait for your responses! I loved reading them and can't wait to delve into this more and more..... and we'll take this to a whole new level. :-) -
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Wed, March 1, 2006 - 11:13 AMMy native american mentor (now Yuwipi shaman) was what many called a "breed"-mixed blooded. He told me that many "red" people were nowadays like Apples...only red on the outside and white on the inside.
He also told me something that may help some other "mixed heritage ppl" out there. He stated that we are ALL mixed bloods and that as part of the human race; a blending of cultures and races is IDEAL and he coonfided in me the knowledge given to him in one of his vision quests. It was that the creator intends us to become ONE race, one color, one nation everntually. It is the lesson of humanity to learn we are not seperate within the circle of life.
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Wed, March 1, 2006 - 11:16 AM:-)
My son is White and Indian. His first little girlfriend (when he was 2 years old, the stud) was Black and Asian.
I was OVERJOYED!! and thought they would have the most beautiful babies in the world... a mix of all races.
This is definitely my kind of thinking.
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Thu, March 2, 2006 - 2:06 AMI have to agree with you there, Synari. I think the mixing of the races is a beautiful thing and something to be proud of and celebrate, especially if you can find that happy balance between them all. I'm still working on that. But I think being in my position, like many of us here, of having to live between worlds has definitely affected the way we view the world. We can't be purists because we aren't "pure" as many people would call us. But in light of what your mentor said, we are pure because we are living in the true spirit of what our creators intended, to become ONE. Fascinating...
I think there was once something a stand-up comic said, which I will paraphrase, "The sooner we all end up looking like Filipinos, the happier we'll be." -
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Fri, March 3, 2006 - 6:33 AMI keep thinking back to a saying I use alot:
"I don't care about the color of skin. I don't care what you look like really. I care most about what's inside you; your state of heart and mind matter most to me."
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Sat, March 4, 2006 - 9:48 AMSyn, I liked what you said about Apples. I've had my fill of Apples!
I am more of a Red Velvet Cake with Cream Cheese Icing type of Grrrl.
:-)
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Mon, March 6, 2006 - 12:52 AMI completely agree with your sentiment.
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Tue, May 9, 2006 - 11:48 AMHoney, next time you have someone tell that "you can't walk with your feet in two canoes" you can say that you can walk just fine in a longboat.
*grin*
While I am not First Nation (can you tell I'm Canadian?) I can understand wholeheartedly the feeling of separation. I am a Black Canadian who was raised by a British colonial in a Polish/Ukranian neighbourhood. I am not so much an Oreo as I am a chocolate covered graham cracker...
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Tue, May 9, 2006 - 3:05 PMROFLMAO!!!!.... Oh, man..... It's hard to respond after that..... ::still laughing:: Chocolate Covered Graham Crackers and Apples and Oreos and Red Velvet Cake -- what a buffet!
I have to say I'm really what some people call a global villager, or world citizen, or just plain, old, straight-out Earthling. I'm not only Indian, I'm Scottish and Greek and English and German and who knows WHAT else. It's been rumored in my family that I'm part black, too (and not just because I can dance) and I harbor suspicions that one of my whacky ancestors had a mad fling with an extraterrestrial..... hmm, which I guess would knock me out of the "plain old Earthling" category........
....BUT I DIGRESS!!
"You can't walk with your feet in two canoes... but you can walk just fine in a longboat -- and you can dance the hootchiekoo on a raft" ???
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Tue, May 9, 2006 - 11:07 PM<-----This person is about to say something silly.
"I am not so much an Oreo as I am a chocolate covered graham cracker... "
Hm. I seem to be a Chocolate Chips Ahoy Cookie with nuts.
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Thu, May 11, 2006 - 5:17 PMAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
I think we're giving Sharon Kihara's Loopy Groupies a run for the money.
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Fri, May 12, 2006 - 7:03 PMLOl, well all I have to say about all of this is ....sounds like you guys are more than YUMMY.
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Sun, June 24, 2007 - 8:42 AMSomeone who says "you can't walk with your feet in 2 canoes" probably doesn't have good balance to begin with ; ) (tee hee). Because it's all about Balance , not choosing one path over another. We are all a part of this Earth and we have shared experiences as human beings that bring us together, beyond the separation of ethnicity. A lot of people focus on what separates them from each other, rather than what brings us together( I honestly think that this is how wars begin). An elder from my rez once told me that, when you mix the colors of mankind from the medicine wheel together (red, yellow, black, and white), you get the color brown which is the color of our Mother the Earth, and ultimately that is truly what matters....that and chocolate, lots and lots of chocolate! -
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Thu, June 28, 2007 - 10:03 PMWhat a great and thoughtful reply....
You're so right --
It's been.... 15 years since that lady said that to me! And guess what?
I think finally - TODAY - I see this in a different light...
The answer to my problem was truly balance, and not choosing one over the other...
What a blessing for you to have joined this tribe. :-)'
Here's something I know you will appreciate. When my son - half red/half white - was two years old, he 'fell in love' for the first time with a little girl who was half yellow/half black....
And I thought "all is right with the world" at that moment
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Thu, June 28, 2007 - 10:48 PMThank you. I feel honored to be here with all of you! -
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Wed, June 4, 2008 - 12:01 PMI like this thread. I wish there were more replies.
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Wed, June 4, 2008 - 3:17 PMGrowing up I always felt like I wasn't "enough" Native American to claim it. Then my aunt told me about a couple of stories she read. One of them being about how if someone has one drop of African blood we still call them "black" or African Americans, And it continues thru many ethnic groups like that. So if you have one drop of Cherokee blood, you are Cherokee. The other was about a man who told an old native woman that he was "part Indian" and she asked him "what part" and teased him with questions such as, Was it his pinky? Now I have this One World One Tribe philosphy. Go back far enough and whether you view it spiritually or scientifically, we all came from the same place. We are all natives in our souls it just depends on how you choose to honor it. Some people are more separated from it than others. I'm glad that most forms that ask race have an "other" box now. I am way too Heinz 57 to declare only one.
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Sat, June 14, 2008 - 6:52 AMWe all are one, interconnected. The nice thing about America is it is the melting pot. Hardly any of us are "pure blood". Does it matter? We are Americans. I am part Hawaiian and part Italian heritage. I am proud of both heritages. Like to absorb what I can of both cultures. Why can't you have you feet in 2 canoes? Who is 1 to say you can not embrace all that makes up who you are? All of us are unique. We should embrace that. Belly dance versus hula versus jingle dance versus fancy shawl dance, who says 1 dance is better than another?