beer or sake recommends

topic posted Wed, August 17, 2005 - 10:53 PM by  pengrin™
So I know traditional peeps enjoy sake w/ their sushi but lately I've been feeling the need for beer. I really like the cold unfiltered sake.

What are your favorites?
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pengrin™
SF Bay Area
  • Mo
    Mo
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    Re: beer or sake recommends

    Thu, August 18, 2005 - 1:18 AM
    I gotta be honest - I've been in Japan for almost a year now and I still can't tell the difference from one beer to the next. Sure, Yebisu is dark and metallic, and Malt's is - I don't know, different - but the rest of 'em I doubt I could tell apart in a blind taste test. I usually get Asahi Superdry or Kirin Lager.

    In my experience, though, most (young) people drink watered-down sho-chu with their sushi.
    • Re: beer or sake recommends

      Thu, August 18, 2005 - 6:13 AM
      What's the story with sapporo?

      re: sweet sake

      Yea, it's definitely sweet. I don't think I'd want to drink the entire bottle when I do get it. I should try out the cold filter sake because I'm not a fan of hot sake. ;)
      • Mo
        Mo
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        Re: beer or sake recommends

        Thu, August 18, 2005 - 5:58 PM
        For some reason Sapporo is not so common where I am. I know it comes from way up north in Hokkaido, but it strikes me as funny that it's easier to get in the US than it is here. I have no idea if this is a regional blip in the rural southlands where I live, or if its true of Japan in general? Of course, it is possible to find Sapporo from time to time, and I usually get it when I can. I like it, but I'm still not sure I could tell it apart from Kirin or Superdry in a blind taste test.
      • Re: beer or sake recommends

        Tue, December 27, 2005 - 4:44 PM
        from what i've heard, a poor quality sake is used for hot sake because there is not much flavor when heated.

        my favorite cold sake to eat with sushi is Mu, which is dry and a little sweet, it's got a hint of pear i guess. I'm also a fan of Kikusui Junmai Ginjyo...or maybe it's just the bottle that i like.
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      Thu, August 18, 2005 - 2:39 PM
      I like Yebisu but cannot get it here in Los Angeles (USA?) anymore. The Yebisu substitute, I've been told, is Sapporo Reserve. So, if it's available, I'll order Sapporo Reserve. Next preference is regular Sapporo. Otherwise, I'll have green tea or sake, depending.
      • Re: beer or sake recommends

        Fri, August 19, 2005 - 10:03 AM
        I'm all about the Asahi.

        Sapporo isn't bad, but it doesn't taste as crisp and clean as Asahi.
        • Re: beer or sake recommends

          Fri, August 19, 2005 - 1:25 PM
          re: asahi

          I was at sushi zone the other night, and while we were waiting I was debating on the two different beers they were serving. I got Asahi because I was familiar with the taste. But I noticed a lot of folks at the place had ordered the Sapporo and that made me curious if I made a good decision on the beer.

          What does Sapporo taste like?
          • Unsu...
             

            Re: beer or sake recommends

            Fri, August 19, 2005 - 4:29 PM
            up until a few years ago, sapporo was my choice over asahi for j-beer because sapporo then was still imported from Japan whereas Asahi had been produced in Canada for a few years running.

            Now both beers are made (except for the select/premium grades) in Canada so either one is like a Japanese-Canadian brew.

            They both are light-bodied and not very flavorful (IMO). Kinda like the Bud vs. Coors debate.

            Kiss Seafood carries a beer from Japan that I also had in NYC at Seki but for some reason I can'r remember what the name of it was. Jay had it at Kiss though maybe he remembers it. Very tasty, much more body and flavor.
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    Fri, October 20, 2006 - 2:22 AM
    I am not a big fan of Japanese Beer, the story is different with Sake though... my faforite of course being Kubota Manju, followed by some brands I tasted while I was staying with a family that had a Sake shop... there was no english name on it, and I cannot decipher Kanji... I have truly been spoiled over there and miss the times when Hiroshi San would give me botles of sake to try... those were good times... Sake in Canada is very limited and expensive and I have not even found premium Ginjo Otokoyama here... another one my favorite brands !
    • db
      db
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      Re: beer or sake recommends

      Thu, October 26, 2006 - 6:54 PM
      Lately my favorite has been Suntory Malts.
      Try it!

      I have heard that Suntory and Yebisu are the only Japanese beers that don't use genticly modified ingredients and they also use the best quality water.

      Sake-
      look at the label and don't drink anything that has had alcohol added to it to help induce the fermentation process.
      it really makes a difference(the next day) to go for the good stuff.
      the taste is SO much better too.
      there are so many good sake's.

      • Unsu...
         

        Re: beer or sake recommends

        Fri, October 27, 2006 - 6:56 AM
        > look at the label and don't drink anything that has had alcohol added to it to help induce
        > the fermentation process.
        > it really makes a difference(the next day) to go for the good stuff.

        That's a common misconception that Junmai (no added alcohol during fermentation) is a superior variety of sake, when in fact, that's not the case at all:

        "In fact most sake that win the gold medals at the Hiroshima Kanpyokai (read the most premium of all sakes), are not allowed to be called junmai due to the small amounts of alcohol added...."

        from www.joyofsake.com/Sake/rice.html
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          Fri, October 27, 2006 - 12:20 PM
          Junmai doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the fact that there might be alcohol added to speed up the fermentation process, as a matter of fact many Junmai Sake's have no alcohol added. Junmai, Ginjo and Daiginjo are labels that refer to how much of the ricegrain is polished off before the rice is used to make Sake, In case of Junmai at least 30% of the grain is polished. With Ginjo at least 45, usually around 50% of the ricegrain is polished away. The dynamite stuff is called Daiginjo, it can have up to 80% of the ricegrain polished away, leaving only the dry inner bit of the rice. Also the regions where the rice has grown play an important role, the best area of rice production being of course Niigata, followed by areas such as around Kyoto and also Yamagata and Dewa amongst others. The region adds another distinct flafor, much like wine regions in France...
          • Unsu...
             

            Re: beer or sake recommends

            Fri, October 27, 2006 - 12:33 PM
            From that link above:

            "Prior to 2004, the Japanese government mandated if the sake was to be considered junmai that at least 30% of the rice be polished away, no alcohol added.

            Today, it can represent any sake milled to any degree, that contains no additives or distilled alcohol."
            • db
              db
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              Re: beer or sake recommends

              Fri, October 27, 2006 - 3:17 PM
              that was a nice read.

              For myself,
              Besides the taste and quality, from my experience, many junmae-shu are just compatible with my body. I can drink a lot and wake up
              up clear and genki where as most experiences with sake that has had alcohol added to it is not good.
              No misconceptions about that.

              I don't buy anything with alcohol added nor do I care to drink the stuff that is often given to me by my neighbors... with alcohol in it.
              Although, with atsukan, I am not always so picky because most of the distilled alcohol evaporates with the heat.

              Not all people have the same sensitivities. Regardless of the taste I cannot at all drink whiskey. It does my body wrong.
              Many people prefer shochu because they say that nihon-shu is rough on their body(hangover's) but personally I am the opposite.

              I don't know if I have ever bought the gold medal of sake's, i'm sure it is quality, but most competitions in Japan are political anyway.
  • Re: beer or sake recommends

    Sat, November 4, 2006 - 12:05 AM
    Kirin

    i used to drink that in san fancisco but i moved up to mount shasta and cant get it anymore...small town....

    anyone want to make a delivery next time you come this way? haha

    no problem though as i will be moving to japan as soon i get my spouse visa worked out so i will enjoy much better choices i m told.

    I will report my findings

    ><{{{'> <"}}}><

    ps... sake lees is great for many health issues ...and has many uses.

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