I've been trying to get a hold of her through mutual friends and so far I haven't had any luck....

I guess I need to take it up with Payppal

ohhh I so agree with that! Hearing from her would be so nice!

ok, i have finally given up. I made a claim with paypal but its too late to get my money back. I paid $85 in May! Right now I am so broke and thinking about losing $85 is alot right now.

paypal told me to file a claim with the government
www.ic3.gov
and they will get my money back. I will wait just a few days to think about it.

I know she may be having hard times but you know, I worked for that money and for her to tell me she had them on hand and will send them now and then 4 months later still nothing. No sorry. I cant deal anymore. I have that old saying ringing in my ears about how you should never do business with friends! Because she is a dance sister I waited for these fans and now that I waited, I lost any chance of ever getting my money back! I am pretty mad now. I have had it.

I am however also apprehensive about what the government will do if I do report so I will research it some and think about it before a decision like this.

I am so bummed also. I had such high hopes about getting those fans and to be crushed by not even an acknowledgement from her, well, ya, I am pretty bummed and feel stupid.

no, paypals policy is that after 1.5 months, they cannot get my money back no matter what I used. I did use a credit card. It doesnt matter. As for the ICC whatever site. I think that what you said was my initial thought but the paypal guy I talked to told me that in some cases they did actually get money back, it was probibly cases where money was captered back or something. I dont know, in any case, I am apt to agree with you on the fact that I probibly have no way of getting my money back.

ok. ithink paypal was tied to my bank account. I have actually changed banks since then since I moved to Oregon from California. my account is still active down there so I will call them and see. wish I actually had money in it! LOL

It looks like Jenna was at Tribal Cafe
tribalcafe.tribe.net/photos/...302cbdd9
Wonder what the story is there......

I agree with that and still would like the fans, even if they come really late. Just want to know that after her heartache in life blows over, that it is in her character to make sure people get what they paid for or their money back. Its what I would I do. if I was in the predicament, I would one at a time pay off all who i owed or order the fans and get them to the people. But most of all, I would at least find a way to communicate this to people. please Jenna, if you read this, just a word that you have good character about this, would be nice!

First of all, I appreciate the ladies who are keeping us updated with what news they find out. Thank you! It's good to know we're not entirely forgotten. However...

...I'm still boggling at how she managed to get to an event as a vendor to sell her (hopefully) excess veils when she doesn't have a car...if she has a friend who would help with that much, why isn't she posting here to let us know what's going on? Certainly she has a friend who could lend her Internet access.

Something about that just sounds weird to me.

I've had to file a claim with Paypal as well, though I'd much prefer to have the veils. Like the others here still expecting merchandise, I have to protect my own investment, regardless of her business practices. Certainly, if she gets the merchandise, I would be quite willing to resend payment, provided she could reassure me that my order would be shipped the NEXT day, without fail.

ya i had a friend ask her from there and all she says over and over is that she was having problems with the mail. She is not straight about it.

Hello gals!

For those of you interested in the Tribal Cafe issue, let me clarify real quick. I drove her there. She brought the fans that you gls had bought with her and gave them to whomever showed up. It takes me several days, if not a couple weeks, to get through to her even though I live only 2 miles from her house because she has no phone, so I can't leave a message, and she lives in an apartment building that is on the lower-income-bracket side, so out of the few times I have left notes actually on her door, she has only gotten (I believe) one of them. I am assuming one of the idiot kids/teenagers that live there thinks that it's funny to take them (she lives right on the main road side, not in the back where it's sheltered from nutty passers-by). She has to hitch a ride in to work with her bf several hours before her shift begins, since his job starts earlier then hers does. By the time they get home, it's usually late enough that she doesn't have time to do things like run to the library to use their computers (which actually do filter from things like tribe), and the post office is closed. I have offered to let her use my computer, but, again, getting a hold of her, or being able to work out a time for her to come over is tricky. I am always more then willing to drive her anywhere, and she has used me to get things to the post office and do errands like picking up packing material before. But with as busy as I am, and as difficult as it is for her to get free time during the day, again, it's tricky. I will continue to keep trying, though, and I know that she is NOT planning on taking the money and running.

I totally understand the irritation/annoyance/anger/fear in this situation. One of her fans was supposed to go to my own teacher, who has now missed 2 performances that she was going to use it for, and I know how upset this has made her. I am not excusing Jenna, nor trying to make excuses FOR her, just letting you know that what has been told is truly the naked, bare facts. Jenna is an honest woman, and she would never intentionally put anyone in this situation. Hopefully things will be able to cool down here soon and she can get a bit of her life back to where it should be.

And I will keep on trying to help as much as I'm able :) She DOES have friends, it's just difficult to get things all put together :(

no what i was saying, is that she is telling everyone that she just had problems with the mail when in fact she just vacated all her customers do to her life issues. I never heard about her getting another shipment or anything and I dont even think she can afford it since she is phoneless, carless, and homeless. I had some friends in so Cali ask her about my fans and she kept saying it was the mail. but when you come here on tribe, people that are closer to her tell a different story. Also, i dotn think that all who didnt get there fans was because it was a postal issue.

thanx Karma, thats the most secure anyone has made me feel.