"I Might Be A Belly Dancer, But I'm Still A Guy"

topic posted Sat, March 29, 2008 - 6:58 AM by  JimBoz
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Okay, just for fun - this thread is about those 'guy things' we do - some perhaps the ones women don't understand (y'all married guys know what I'm talking about). And not the guy things we do in everyday life, but the ones we do in/around/during our dance. Yes, some of the women might do it too -- and it don't make them butch -- but I'll start it off:

I Might Be A Belly Dancer, But I'm Still A Guy
Often, much of my costume is held together with duct tape, including, but not limited to:
- jewelry
- hems
- when Sons of the Padisha decided to mimic the womens' braids, I duct taped them to my bald head before tying the turban on
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JimBoz
San Diego
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  • Hot glue-ing the seams of my fist pair of harem pants cause I couldn't sew.
    Tying the elastic in a knot in the seams of the waist and feet (till this day the left ankle is too tight and hurts after a while - but I still wear them every time I dance cause I'm too lazy to fix it.
    I go to the hardware store and see chain and metal washers and wonder what they would look like on a belt.
    • Oh! Oh!

      Jabir I'm with you on the hardware store chain and metal washers thing on a belt.

      I've actually added washers onto a belt (reflective chrome...oooohhh!) but they don't actually serve any purpose other than to be a shiny gewgaw.

      But y'know, a trip to Home Depot keeps stimulating my creative juices because I look at things and wonder "Hmm, those lug nuts would look cool on a belt as danglies... Those tiles would look spiff shisha'ed onto a belt..." it just goes on and on.
  • Duct tape indeed solves lots of problems.

    I hit the local military/aerospace surplus store for accessories. Hard-drive heads make intricate "tassels" at the end of a chain-mail hip-belt (solder the ends togethere).

    If I get a gun-rack, my scimitar gets a place of honor.
  • Okay, to answer the original question:

    — Flair my deltoids (or is it my trapezius?) muscles in my back when I dance.

    — Wear boxerbriefs when wearing pantaloons, but wearing briefs (no VPL) when wearing Melos and other less baggy pants.

    — Comb mustache so it doesn't look scraggly on stage and off stage.

    — Adjust my "stuff" because it bounced around too much during a performance and has taken an uncomfortable position.

    — Scream when tribal jewelry scrapes chest, tearing chest hairs out. AAAAAAHHHHHhhhhh!

    — Wash turban after every other performance. Because wearing something that smells like a dead raccoon on your head is gross.
  • not a guy, but... have you ever been to Active Surplus on Queen St in Toronto? it's like a candy store for crafters with Industrial leanings.
    • Okay Taraneh, I have now, once again, been to Active Surplus and have circular bearing rollers on my Tribal Fusion costume. I also got some diamond shaped nuts that I am itching to find a use for.
      • I have some new ones!

        — shave face with electric shaver the day before a performance because applying make-up onto freshly shaven face is so agonizing and causes skin to flush a bloody red.

        — remember to shave in the first place because beard hair sticking out of make-up makes face look unattractively scraggly.

        — use eyelash glue to stick beard hairs down.
        • actually, I shave fresh/clean before a performance, but I have a regimen, including post shave moisturizing that helps avoid pain.

          Lately I've changed to a mineral foundation too. That has been a bit of a subtler look rather than the heavy MAC liquid foundation. Also it's easier for my changes in skin tone (read: inconsistent tanning habits).

          As for hiding the beard stubble, a good foundation helps. A bit of stubble looks good for some costumes/venues, but not all. Tarik has a makeup style that has good coverup.
          • I'm wearing mostly mineral makeup these days, too, and I lurve it. I think it's way better for your skin, too (read -- no breakouts!) and very easy to get even coverage.

            I use a small company's (found on eBay) mineral foundation, highlight and lowlight and mostly L'Oreal HIP stuff for my eyes. That stuff is the bomb (just as good as MAC, IMNSHO) and *way* cheaper. Plus easier to get.

            I'd love to do a makeup class for men sometime; I used to do makeup for a living and I know that guys often freak out at the makeup thing. It is a little tougher for guys, just because you have to be a blending fool.
            • My biggest challenge is not professional application (I have Jemira for that), but the consistant practice of it. Unlike the womenfolk, we don't really have the opportunity to practice this application. I can't put on make-up, then go to work on the Rail Road. So I'm limited to performances, and Jemira (among others) either apply, or help apply any cosmetics required...
              • <------ this person sings:

                I wear makeup on the railroad,
                all the live long day.
                I wear makeup on the railroad,
                just to pass the time away.
                Can't you see my bindi glowing,
                Liner darkening my eyes,
                concealer keeps my bags from showing,
                as I shake my thighs!

                ::ducks and runs from Hassan:: :))))))
                • And yes, I have worn Kohl to work (albeit by accident)! The funny thing was, no one said anything to me about it until I noticed it in the bathroom mirror. I had been to an SCA event and didn't get it ALL off. And you know how Kohl is.....it tends to spead all on its own.

                  When I asked why nothing was said, one reply was " I know what your hobby is, and I didn't want any of those bruises!"

                  Go figure....

                  PS Hey Val! We miss you here at Lilies, I'll drink one for ya!
              • I know exactly what you're talking about, Hassan.
                When Sons of the Padisha used to get ready for a performance, it would take us many hours to get our makeup done because we just didn't have the practice. But over time, we learned.

                A few things that help:
                - having someone around to guide you thru
                - workshops (there are some at a few events) and definitely one-on-one counsel with a professional makeup artist
                (we spend money to learn to dance, we spend money on costumes, we spend money to learn to 'finish' our looks to be professional)
                - practice putting it on when you have time, it's like rehearsing your dance moves
                - we dont' need to be extravagant with makeup
                - small haflas as we learn and grow help us to learn the basics, so that when we do large stages, we have the skills to heap it on properly

                Most (not all) *good* stage makeup looks freakish off the stage.
                Except people like John Compton - I think he only wears eyeliner.
                • I had the good fortune to be around John Compton while he applied his stage make-up when he was here in KC for a seminar. Belive me, I was attentive and tried to take notes. His application was simple, smooth, and (of course) well practiced. He made it look as easy as Jemira does...... (whereas I'm just trying not to gouge my own eyes out...)

                  Less is more....

                  As a side note, we're at Lilies this week, so I'll try to remember to utilize the khol more.....(makes me a trend setter in Calontir!)
                  And, so far, my Knight has been the only person to scoff at my "Guyliner". The chicks dig it, ('cuase Depp does it..) and the other fighters are no so quick to laugh.
              • Makeup

                Thu, June 12, 2008 - 10:22 AM
                I have good makeup days and bad makeup days. This past weekend I had the luxury of being squeezed into the lieup for Rakkasah's Spring Caravan (bellydance fusion festival in NJ) and found myself without a costume or any makeup. I had my mother run to get me eyeliner while I enjoyed a Karsilama workshop with Rashid. I did my eyes and had my mother do my eyebrows. If I dance with the red hair I at least need to darken the blonde eyebrows else any kind of facial expressions may become lost. Sadly my eyebrows were too thick and dark so I have the most evil eyes on the video! I will be posting said video to youtube as soon as I can access a computer fast enough to upload off of the DVD.
                -Kirvo
        • Shaving

          Thu, June 5, 2008 - 7:52 PM
          as a redhead I have inbvisible stubble. my eyebrows are blonde so I tend to use a pencil to darken them, but any facial hair that hasn't been growing for a half a week won't be seen from more than a yard away!

          however, I will NEVER be tan.

          -Kirvo
          • Re: Shaving

            Thu, June 5, 2008 - 9:05 PM
            ::glares with envy at Kirvo:: An hour and a half after I shave, I have visible stubble. :-/
            • Re: Shaving

              Fri, June 6, 2008 - 12:21 PM
              glare all ya want. My mustache took 2 years of growth till it was visible. My leg and arm hair is STILL invisible.

              Anyway, I am goign to a fusion festival in NJ today, Be back monday!

              -Kirvo
  • I wear boxerbriefs no matter what when I dance...my thighs are too fat for anything else!

    I was practicing our sword routine once and got this look on my face, after wich I reached down and adjucted myself. one of the girls asked me and I was like "one fell out"

    I spend way too much time grooming my facial hair for a performance. ESPECIALLY if I am dancing with my red hair hidden Rimmel London Black Mascara goes on every inch of facial hair! (see my profile pics)

    I think my ultimate man moment was actually at a Jim Boz workshop when I realized the Omi's pivit from the center of your hips, yet Inverted Omis pivot from your "taint"

    -Kirvo
  • I have a new one!

    - Shaving facial hair into different styles that might look new on stage. Goatee one week, Mutton chop sideburns the next, Chin strap the next, Mustache, three-day scruff, clean shaven save for soul patch. Electric shavers with shaping attachments are my friend. :)

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