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Please forgive my ignorance, but I've lost track of just WHAT is a good definition of Mysticism?
Mysticism and the Occult are beginning to blur in my mind.
What is your definition of each?
I know that the darker realms "feel" attractive to some people ... and they can get trapped in a "Hell Realm" ... thinking they have power until it takes over their spirits and minds ... and the danger there appears to be mental illness ... or worst, becoming a powerless, delusioned "Lucifer."
It appears that all religions have a branch ... or a "Mystic" part to them. (Or am I saying it wrong ... perhaps it's better to say that all religions are essentially "Mystical"? Is that a better way of looking at it?)
I got into meditation and then stopped ... and then Spiritual Phenomena began to appear.
So now I'm drawn into walking deeper into the forest than I'd ever planned. (Not the darkness ... well ... because some of that is in my mind, looking at that can't be avoided ... but I want to come out in The Light.)
Comments?
Mysticism and the Occult are beginning to blur in my mind.
What is your definition of each?
I know that the darker realms "feel" attractive to some people ... and they can get trapped in a "Hell Realm" ... thinking they have power until it takes over their spirits and minds ... and the danger there appears to be mental illness ... or worst, becoming a powerless, delusioned "Lucifer."
It appears that all religions have a branch ... or a "Mystic" part to them. (Or am I saying it wrong ... perhaps it's better to say that all religions are essentially "Mystical"? Is that a better way of looking at it?)
I got into meditation and then stopped ... and then Spiritual Phenomena began to appear.
So now I'm drawn into walking deeper into the forest than I'd ever planned. (Not the darkness ... well ... because some of that is in my mind, looking at that can't be avoided ... but I want to come out in The Light.)
Comments?
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Re: What is YOUR definition of Mysticism?
Mon, November 2, 2009 - 8:07 AMHi there,
Mysticism and Occultism are related but are also distinct.
Mysticism is a religion that brings a believer into contact with the ultimate reality, ie. God.
Occultism is the study of the paranormal which can or cannot be related to God or the ultimate reality.
At least this is my way of distinguishing the two.
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Re: What is YOUR definition of Mysticism?
Mon, November 2, 2009 - 12:54 PMLouiza, while I think you for explaining your definitions, I must respectfully disagree with some of your concepts.
Mysticism is not a religion. It does bring a person, believer or not, into contact with the Divine. Therefore, it can be part of any religion or external to any religion.
Occultism goes far beyond studying the "paranormal." It looks at all things that are "hidden" (the meaning of the word) from the common, daily experiences of most people. Further, occultism doesn't just "study" these things, it allows people to work with those hidden concepts and ideas to change their lives and the lives of those around them.
Most religions today actually reject mysticism. After all, if a person has a direct link to the divine, there's no need for priests, imams, and rabbis, and that's another person not giving money to the religion's coffers. In fact, most religions look at mysticism as being part of occult traditions. Gnosticism is one occult side to Christianity. Sufism is an occult side to Islam. Kabalah is an occult side to Judaism. -
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Re: What is YOUR definition of Mysticism?
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 10:42 AMWell seeing as it is you that creates all of this for yourself'
Dependant upon your perception'
Heaven' Hell' HaHa!! If you can think it' then you create it in your conciousness patterns'
Everything is made of conciousness !!
Bliss!
Nobu +
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Re: What is YOUR definition of Mysticism?
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 5:06 PMI believe that I stated that mysticism brings one into contact with the devine. I wasn't really thinking of specific organized religions.
I also think that mysticism allows one to utilize their understanding of existence in their daily lives. We study the teachings of the mystics that preceeded us so that we can walk a more enlightened path.
I was attempting to keep my thoughts very basic, but I think we are saying very similar things. -
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Re: What is YOUR definition of Mysticism?
Mon, November 9, 2009 - 2:47 AMWhen mysticism has been defined, it no longer is mysticism.....but a rationality in the mind. All rationalities as such cease to connect the soul with the subtle and undefinable divine element, whether that be human, natural or supernatural.
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Re: What is YOUR definition of Mysticism?
Thu, November 5, 2009 - 6:41 PMI used this definition of a mystic in a class I organized a few years ago.
Mystic/mysticism - definition Mystic: one initiated, one professing to undergo profound spiritual experience, visionary, spiritual, supernatural, transcendental, one overwhelmingly driven to follow the sacred.
Mysticism is the doctrine that knowledge of spiritual truths can be acquired by intuition and meditation.
Mysticism lies at the very depth of spiritual consciousness; it has an intensity, power, and energy, matched by nothing else.
Characteristic experiences:
1. Mystics experience to an extraordinary degree the profoundly personal encounter with the energy of divine life.
2. Mystics often perceive the presence of God throughout the world of nature and in all that is alive, leading to a transfiguration of the ordinary all around them.
3. Mystics experience an inner and an outer quest, a journey that leads deeply into the divine center of one's own soul but then moves outward again to the concerns of the created world and the world of suffering.
4. Mystics travel along the margins of the ordinary and the extraordinary, the world of the mundane, and the world of the spirit where all things are made whole.
5. Mystics seek participation in divine life, union, and communion with God.
6. Mystics experience a desire that is kindled by the fire of divine love itself, this moves the mystic in their search and leads them on arduous journeys, to discover and proclaim the all-encompassing love of God for all human kind.
7. Mystics quest for loving union and communion with God; this quest runs like a golden thread through life and the centuries.
8. Mystics experience God in a dazzling darkness brighter than the brightest light.
9. Mystics experience a splendor and empowerment that they ceaselessly describe, even when affirming that it is entirely incommunicable.
10. Mystics represents the great company of such seers who want to pass on to others the precious riches bestowed upon them.
11. Mystics experience the sacred as the ultimate Godhead, or Ground of Being - God the Father and God the Mother - God intimately present.
12. Mystics may be passive mystics who reject the world and withdraw from it
13. Mystics may be active mystics who are led back into the world and become immersed in a round of activities, profoundly transformed by a new spirit.
14. Mystics communicate the inspiring heritage of a great mystery and an all consuming love, sometimes verbally and sometimes through silence, but always through the way they live their life..
15. Mystics experience a profound spiritual integration with the promise of joy and passion, ecstasy, and suffering overcome.
16. Mystics experience a spiritual wholeness and completion that reaches its goal in God.
Mystics struggle to find some kind of balance between the world they know as ordinary and that can become transcendent and the world of divinity where they can live fully in their spirit. -
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Re: What is YOUR definition of Mysticism?
Fri, November 6, 2009 - 2:24 PMNice post Steven'
>>>Mystics often perceive the presence of God throughout the world of nature and in all that is alive, leading to a transfiguration of the ordinary all around them.>>>
I have to bend in a different direction here'
GOD'
Concept through mind perception of conciousness' the world and everything in it' alive' dead' animate' in-animate' is GOD'
Conciousness is GOD'
Everything is made of conciousness'
Without conciousness there would be no perception' no GOD'
Without US' everything that IS would be different than IS'
NOW'
In a state of "Endless Probabilities" until held through "Focal point" of conciousness'
MIND'
Bliss!
Nobu +
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