Personality --- incarnate versions of planetary deities, a la the mundane chakras? Did primitive worshippers draw them into existence from the 'astral plane'? Like I said, if not for the huge stone blocks at Baalbek and Puma Punku/Tiahuanaco and elsewhere, and the mysterious technological devices like the Antikythera device, one might almost imagine an ordinary prehistory for the australopithecenes and homo erectus/habilis, Neanderthal/ Cro Magnon.

In one of Sitchin's books it states that at Tiahuanaco (either there or in Central America, I forget) there were underground sieves to purify tin. At the same time, he states, in the Near East, they were running out of tin to alloy with copper to make bronze weapons and armor. The people of mesoamerica could not really have been using tin. They were great goldsmiths, for some reason, but had only stone and onyx tools, for the most part. Why were they refining tin? Also, did you hear of the (I think) German researcher that found nicotene and cocaine residues bound to mummies' hair keratins? What's with that? Did the Phoenicians actually have an over-the-ocean trade route going for these luxuries? Try to trace the supposed 'sons-of-gods', whomever they might be in prehistory, and you find that the Minoans and Achaean Greeks and others seem to have some Egyptian and possibly Levantine coast backgrounds. In Sitchin's books it is the Enki-ite lineage that creates and intermingles with humanity, against the wishes of the Enlilite side, who Sitchin says desired to make machinery to mine the gold they desired. However much of Sitchin's work is fiction, he took a lot of it from a large assortment of myths found on clay tablets recently unearthed, and in whatever culture we tend to look at, however primitive it is, we find (usually) intricate goldsmithing, even in places where the wheel is not known. Strange, huh? How many 'cycles' could we be in, Steven? Tribal myths say 5 worlds so far, this being the Fifth. What's that about, the oral histories of tribal people, who commonly worship Mother Earth, stating such? Is there a culture anywhere in this universe that wants to truly pursue real science?

So, the Primum Mobile... still existent, or not? It's a very good question. Since stars can be equivalent to points, and therefore lines (to some extent), and the extent to which we can see from this geocentric viewpoint a sphere (COBE radiation, perhaps same as the opaque period), we can easilty become befuddled, as I just did. But stars are globes also, and spherical. See what I mean? So in a sense, despite the 'limitation' idea of Binah, a larger globe is encircling it. And we need to get out there. I prefer no hitchhiking.