Books And Movies.

topic posted Wed, July 1, 2009 - 11:35 AM by  Timothy
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What books are you reading? What have you read recently?

What movies are you watching? What have you watched recently?

How does it apply to the 8CB Model?


I am reading through Autobiography of a Yogi, by Paramahansa Yogananda. I like it.

The obvious aspects of the book involve C6 activity, nonphysical perception, etc. But I am working on understanding it's possible connection to C8 through Samadhic states.

Rob_giri, have you read this? You seem to have a quality about you that relates to the eastern hinduism thing.

I have not watched any movies recently. But I have been watching a lot of Jordan Maxwell on Google Video.

It is quite C3ish in its devotion to intellectualism.
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  • Re: Books And Movies.

    Wed, July 1, 2009 - 8:57 PM
    My current pile of books consists of

    -The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying- sort of like my bible...... I would say this book covers all the circuits

    -I have also been selectively re-reading chapters of Angel Tech.

    -I am re-reading Octavia Butler's novel 'Parable of the sower'. This is wonderful story of a empathic woman coming of age in the ruins of a post-industrial world. I think this book also covers all the circuits, with an emphasis on C-2, C-4, C-6

    -Alive and Well with Neptune: transits of Heart and Soul... by Bil Tierney -- I am mostly reading the parts about Neptune transitng the First house... trying to understand what the hell is going on with me..... The material I am reading deals primarily with C-2,C-4, and C-8 Mostly dealing with mechanical problems....

    as for movies, the only thing that I have seen lately that made any impression was Aurther C Clark's "Fractals - The Colors Of Infinity"
    Focuse on C-3 with undertones of C-7
    • Re: Books And Movies.

      Wed, July 1, 2009 - 9:44 PM
      everything that is human can be related to the 8cb, the question always remains if it really matters..


      A quality about me that relates to the hinduism thing? I have travelled and studied in india and have been given the title of a freelance indian sadhu, my username on tribe being related to the name i was given - but I won't really make a big deal of it so i more relate to myself as an urban post-punk psychic poetic terrorist.,. haha.. or nothing at all of course. in fact, i usually don't relate to myself... theres nothing to it!

      Actually to tell you the truth i never finished Autobiography of a Yogi, despite buying it and reading it many times. The first time was when we were 16 and starting to take magic mushrooms (having been initiated into lsd at 14). It helped me a lot i guess

      Mostly he talks about being in Bliss (C-5) then he talks about the extraordinary psychic powers, or siddhis, of many of the dudes he was with (C6).

      The Samadhi thing is basically Circuit 7 and Cicuit 8. Engaging with the unity of all life and the boundless infinite connecitivity tying together all things (C7) and then actually merging with it and being completely absorbed in it to its final source (C8)

      There are elements of all the last 4 circuits in the state of Samadhi. You are bliss enfused because of body-mind yoking in asana and pranayama (C5), deeply concentrated in Yogic Dharana (C6) united with element of observation in yogic Dhyana (C7) and more or less in union with the beginning and end of all things (C8)


      Reading stories of indian saints such as that in Yogananda's book - I mean they are so fucking far out and intense that one can easily blow their mind with it and create all sorts of fantasy around them - which many people do. Yogananda was a good guy but he was just as easily tranced out in a body-denying bias as most indian gurus. He had moments of really radical and innovative intelligence but a lot of it was very religious and transcendant and what not and the Christians that he met with when he travelled to the US were all to willing to scoop it up. The glamour of guru saint characters sitting there looking all complete and enlightened n'shit - what about if you asked them to play tennis or to come raving? They probably couldn't handle it. Sometimes it doesn't help to fill your mind with those stories of teleporting, levitating saints - though i used to love it. Just increases the 'wow, man' factor - too much absorbtion of information but not enough integration and transmission - fuel for space-cadet status.
      • Re: Books And Movies.

        Wed, July 1, 2009 - 10:07 PM
        HEAD-ON by Fatih Akin
        WOODENHEAD by Florian Habicht
        THE SNOW WALKER by Charles Martin Smith
        ADAM'S APPLES by Anders Thomas Jensen

        best films I've rented from Netflix in the past month...all of them amazing in different ways...no hyped up hollywood shite here...vintige indie
      • Re: Books And Movies.

        Fri, July 3, 2009 - 8:30 AM
        >> I mean they are so fucking far out and intense that one can easily blow their mind

        Perhaps they are closer than you think, and you just don't realize it yet.
  • Re: Books And Movies.

    Sun, July 5, 2009 - 9:35 AM
    Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.

    This book has, so far, many (useful) connections to the 8CB model. I'll elaborate on this at a later time.
    • Re: Books And Movies.

      Mon, July 6, 2009 - 4:15 AM
      I always wanted to know:

      RAW counted Ayn Rand and the 'objectivists' amongst the list of morons whose world-view and ontology reflects the falacy of aristotelian logic.. etc etc.

      But Christopher Hyatt counted Ayn Rand and her brand of Libertarianism amongst his greatest influences.

      Anyone have any thoughts about this?

      Never read Atlas Shrugged myself.

      And early Southpark episode slanders it also
      • Re: Books And Movies.

        Mon, July 6, 2009 - 4:24 AM
        A couple of months ago I caught a mainstream media news episode out of the corner of my peripherals, and heard "Atlas Shrugged" referred to as "the conservative bible". This, among other things I cannot remember too well, led me to form a pretty negative bias against both Ayn Rand and her famous novel. I have also been reading some of Hyatt's Black Books, and I was stunned to see how much Ayn Rand influenced him. This, coupled with the fact that the Ayn Rand Institute offers $10,000 yearly scholarships for winning Atlas Shrugged essays, had me decided to read it and form my own opinion.

        I'm only on chapter 4, but I see a huge question being begged, and that is : "What is power?" and "What separates the weak from the powerful?"

        So far I really like the book.
        • Re: Ayn Rand and personal power trips

          Wed, July 8, 2009 - 5:31 AM
          Looks to me like power is basically the ability to casuse or stop change. The two most elementary types of power are spiritual and political.
          Spiritual power is like the force that animates life, like the God particle and the sun, imagination,language skills, etc., while political power is created and managed by humans in the form of statutes, money, governments, chains of command, jobs, licenses,,.
          Ayn Rand is really good at showing personal spiritual power in action,. triumphing over political power, especially as it relates to the intellectual, productive, and strong individuals who have high market value by being good at something useful .
          Ayn Rand introduced and polished the notion of " The Virtue of Selfishness" and exquisitely portrays heroes as those who triumph over societal and governmental attacks against one's personal principals. She is especially adept at showing how individuals are "The Fountainhead" of civilization in spite of governmental and societal antagonism for noncomformists.

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          • Re: power trips

            Wed, July 8, 2009 - 8:15 AM
            I like "The Little Prince", and how its author, Saint-Exupery shows the power of i -magi- nation, love and companionship. This little fella, a boy of about 9 years old, is comming at power from a completely different angle than the Ayn Rand heroes and he definitely gets my vote for being fearless and powerful.. The little prince learns that love and relationships are worth the efffort, even if he has to leave his comfort zone (he has his own planet that he leaves to visit other planets) and die( he gets nipped by a serpent) to find out for himself about life and how to love his rose, who had suddenly sprung-up and bloomed on his otherwise lonely little planet..
            How about the power of love.
            more spiritual power at work:
            How about the power of personal relationships.
            How about the power of sex and regeneration
            How about DNA?
            How about light
            How about beauty
      • Re: Books And Movies.

        Wed, August 12, 2009 - 8:58 AM
        > RAW counted Ayn Rand and the 'objectivists' amongst the list of morons whose world-view and ontology reflects the falacy of aristotelian logic.. etc etc.

        Wilson labeled himself an objectivist during hear early ideological journey. He abandoned Objecitivism for the same reasons he abandoned Trotsykism - the followers adhered to the accepted belief system with rigid tenacity. It was the lack of flexibility and critical thinking that Wilson deplored (big surprise).

        Rand's virtue of selfishness can lead to a well needed development of ego and sense of self in a society filled with "shoulds," but like anything it can be taken to far. Using a purely physical metaphor, I prefer the supple flexiblility and core strength of a yogi to the rigid overdeveloped exterior of the weightlifter.
    • Re: Books And Movies.

      Mon, July 6, 2009 - 4:15 AM
      Just saw Public Enemies, with Johnny Depp.

      "Whaddya see, whaddya say, whaddya know?"

      Dillinger, as portrayed in this movie, exudes intelligence throughout C1-C4; a man of action who took responsibility for his own security, power, sanity, and relation-ships. A true American Hero.

      • Re: Books And Movies.

        Wed, July 8, 2009 - 3:26 AM
        Saw 'Being There' the other night, with Peter Sellers. Interesting

        Also my brother found a 1974 edition of Leary's The Psychadelic Experience - at a garage sale for $1! He passed it right on to me. Awesome find!

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