Deoderant

topic posted Thu, April 26, 2007 - 9:56 AM by  Maude'Dib
I was at the store this morning because I needed deoderant. I went to reach for my regular popular brand and remembered what I am trying to do in my life. The only natrual option was Toms of Maine so I grabbed that one. Eventually I will look into a made-at-home solution ... but for now Toms will do just fine.

This link talks about things found in natural deoderants like potassium and ammonium alum.
www.beautybroker.net/natural...ants.htm

This link talks about things found in store-bought deoderants and give the following natural remede:
-Shower regularly, of course, and be sure to wash underarms.
-Try washing with baking soda under your arms when in the shower if you're really smelly.
-Try using lemon or lime juice under your arms, obviously not right after shaving.
-Wear fabrics that breathe.
-Caffeine helps produce B.O. so you may want to cut back on your intake if you're smelly.
-Use a mixture of equals parts baking soda and non-GMO cornstarch or just baking soda and dab under arms as a deodorant. You can add a drop of your favorite essential oil to customize it.
-Use alcohol to clean the smelly bacteria from armpits (but be sure this isn't right after shaving!).
-Get a safe deodorant without harmful chemicals and find one that works well for you.
www.deliciousorganics.com/Contr...nt.htm

GREAT information from TheGreenGuide.com:
www.thegreenguide.com/reports...ct.mhtml
posted by:
Maude'Dib
SF Bay Area
  • Re: Deoderant

    Thu, April 26, 2007 - 10:40 AM
    I was having a serious problem when i moved back to miami. I think I picked up something at the hospital. Anyway, my pits stank like Icky Bob. Showering did not help. It was especially bad after eating chicken so I had to cut that out altogether to not offend. I was at my wits end when I found one of those dumb hippie crystals on sale at Wild Oafs. (You know I was at my wits end if I spent money on a hippie crystal.) It killed whatever had nested there within a day. This brand had no aluminium.
  • Re: Deoderant

    Thu, April 26, 2007 - 10:41 AM
    I shouldn't even think about what heinous chemicals are in my deodorant. CGK1 is a pretty princess, and doubt's the "green" qualifications of his Kenneth Cole shower and bathroom products.
    • Re: Deoderant

      Thu, April 26, 2007 - 10:46 AM
      warning: long post

      What to look out for


      IRRITANTS/ALLERGENS

      Astringent salts of aluminum, zinc or zirconium are used in anti-perspirants to seal up pores and reduce their sweat output. These compounds are a leading cause of irritation from anti-perspirants, and can cause contact dermatitis or granulomas. They vary in their potential to produce irritation: aluminum chloride, for example, produces the most irritation, and aluminum chlorohydrate is far less likely to irritate. "Crystal" odor-controlling products, which contain ammonium alum (ammonium aluminum sulfate) or potassium alum (potassium aluminum sulfate), also are milder choices. These more natural, less refined aluminum compounds are either directly listed on the label or are among the "mineral salts" contained in the product.

      Many anti-perspirants and deodorants, left on the underarm skin for many hours, have the potential to trigger adverse reactions. Fragrances, in all personal care products, are chief culprits in cases of contact dermatitis—allergic skin reactions that include swelling, itching, inflammation, and even blisters. Reactions for some irritants even can occur days later and appear far from the product's contact site. It can be difficult for a consumer to avoid particular problem ingredients even when they are known, as fragrance ingredients often are not detailed in labels. Those with sensitive skin and with known allergic reactions to perfumes may wish to choose fragrance-free products. Read labels carefully: even "unscented" products often will have a "masking fragrance" listed among its ingredients.

      Formaldehyde, associated with several common preservatives used in shampoos, can cause nausea, coughing, wheezing and burning sensations in the eyes, nose and throat at air levels as low as 0.1 ppm (parts per million). Other potential irritants found in anti-perspirants and deodorants include propylene glycol, EDTA, lanolin (cosmetic grade), Bronopol, imidazolidinyl urea, quaternium 15, D&C Green 5, FD&C Yellow 5. Also look out for "Germaben II" and “Germaben IIE,” used as preservatives in personal care products: they contain propylparaben, methylparaben, diazolidinyl urea, and propylene glycol. Some synthetic ingredients (such as paraben compounds) and some natural substances (such as peppermint, eucalyptus, and wintergreen oils), moreover, can trigger potentially serious allergic reactions.

      Those with known sensitivities to personal care product ingredients should carefully test products for problems and avoid those with ingredients that trigger bad reactions. Adverse responses can also develop or worsen over time, so those prone to allergic reactions should always use personal care products mindfully.

      Major medical organizations at the moment remain unconvinced of any connection between aluminum consumption and Alzheimer's Disease. The Alzheimer's Association, in a 2002 report, states that "Although research into the Alzheimer's/aluminum connection continues, most mainstream health professionals believe, based on current knowledge, that exposure to aluminum is not a significant risk factor." The World Health Organization (WHO), the U.S. National Institutes of Health (NIH), the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and Health Canada all concur. Furthermore, the federal government's Risk Assessment Information System Toxicity Profile of Aluminum describes aluminum as being "not readily absorbed through the skin." David Steinman, co-author of The Safe Shopper's Bible, nevertheless suggests minimizing exposure to aluminum as a an easy, prudent, precautionary measure and a healthy overall lifestyle decision. Consumers can choose to avoid aluminum-containing anti-perspirants, cookware, foil, beverage cans, and antacids. Aluminum-free odor-controlling products—deodorants, as opposed to anti-perspirants—do exist as alternatives.


      POSSIBLE AND PROBABLE CARCINOGENIC INGREDIENTS

      Through contamination or reactions with other ingredients or contaminants, some cosmetic ingredients unintentionally offer possible threats to health. As there is no way to know whether or not a problematic contamination or reaction has occurred in any individual product, avoiding contaminant risks in general is recommended.

      Formaldehyde can be present in the preservatives DMDM hydantoin, diazolidinyl urea, imidazolidinyl urea, quaternium-15, and Bronopol. Formaldehyde is "reasonably anticipated to be a human carcinogen," according to the National Toxicology Program's Tenth Report on Carcinogens, and The Environmental Protection Agency classifies it as a probable human carcinogen. It also can produce skin, eye and respiratory irritation. In its liquid state, formaldehyde can be absorbed through the skin. As a volatile organic compound, or VOC, formaldehyde evaporates when the product is wet, and air levels drop sharply once it's dry. Formaldehyde thus poses more of a health risk in roll-on antiperspirants (which are applied as liquid and dry on the body), and can also offgas more readily when perspiring.

      Polyethylene, PEG compounds (containing polyethylene glycol) and polysorbates may become contaminated with 1,4 dioxane. 1,4 dioxane has produced liver cancer in rodents in National Cancer Institute studies, and is listed as a probable human carcinogen in the National Toxicology Program's Tenth Report on Carcinogens. Some laboratory data furthermore calls into question the practice of putting polyethylene on skin: The World Health Organization's International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) reports that some laboratory rats and mice developed cancer when implanted with polyethylene under the skin. -Eth compounds (which contain a component ending in -eth, such as "laureth") are also a 1,4 dioxane contamination risk.

      Look out for diethanolamine (DEA) and the similar chemical triethanolamine (TEA). Both of these can react with nitrites (often present in preservatives) to form carcinogenic nitrosamines, which can be absorbed through the skin, says the FDA. The risk of this reaction occurring is higher if the product also contains Bronopol. Compounds with MEA, DEA, or TEA in their names can present this problem.

      Bronopol is not only a formaldehyde risk; it also can cause carcinogenic nitrosamines to form in personal care products, according to the FDA. The risk is heightened if amine-containing ingredients such as DEA, TEA, or MEA are also present.

      Although they are used in small quantities, problematic coloring agents in personal care products pose unneeded health risks. Some commonly-used dyes are allergens and irritants. Some contain lead acetate, a heavy metal toxic to the nervous system, while others are linked with cancers. Particularly worrying are "coal-tar" dyes found in many FD&C and D&C colors. FD&C Blue 1 and FD &C Green 3 are carcinogenic, and impurities in other colors—D&C Red 33, FD&C Yellow 5 and FD&C Yellow 6—have been shown to cause cancer when applied to the skin.

      David Steinman suggests avoiding the following colors:

      D&C Green 5
      D&C Orange 17
      D&C Red 9
      D&C Red 19
      D&C Red 33
      FD&C Blue 1
      FD&C Green 3
      FD&C Red 4
      FD&C Red 40
      FD&C Yellow 5
      FD&C Yellow 6
      No credible evidence exists to link anti-perspirant use to breast cancer. The American Cancer Society has compiled a convincing set of counter-arguments to this widespread, Internet-disseminated rumor: www.cancer.org/docroot/nws/...l_rumors.asp.


      HORMONE DISRUPTION RISKS


      Methylparaben, propylparaben, ethylparaben, or butylparaben are preservatives widely used in personal care products. They can be allergenic, and there is preliminary evidence that parabens act like estrogens; they therefore may be able to disrupt normal hormone functioning in humans.

      Considered protected trade secrets by the FDA, personal care product manufacturers do not have to disclose the many ingredients in the fragrances they use. Phthalates, commonly used in perfumes, may be a component in the mysterious "fragrance" ingredient you often see listed on makeup labels. Various members of this family of chemical plasticizers, solvents, and fixatives have been found to produce cancer of the liver and birth defects in laboratory animals; the possibility of ties to hormone disruption in humans is being studied. In a population of women aged 20 to 40 tested for phthalates by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), five percent harbored phthalate levels high enough to concern the CDC. A December 2002 study by Harvard researchers also found a correlation between sperm damage in men and the levels of diethyl phthalate in their bodies (diethyl phthalate is commonly used in fragrances and perfumes). While no causal relationship has been proven, the study authors argue that the association demands further research.

      To avoid phthalates, choose unscented products or those whose labels reveal simple essential oils from botanical sources. You can also choose products from companies that have publicly refrained from using phthalates. Aubrey Organics, Avalon, Kiss My Face, Jason, Logona, Nature's Gate, Speickwerk, Terressentials, Tom's of Maine, and Weleda have affirmed to The Green Guide that they never use phthalates in their products.

      Although rarely used in deodorants, Alkylphenol ethoxylates (APEs) can disrupt normal hormone function. Children and pregnant women in particular should not use products that contain APEs. To avoid these substances, look out for ingredients with "octoxynol" or "nonoxynol" in their names.


      ANTIBIOTIC RESISTANCE

      Triclosan, common in deodorants and anti-bacterial soaps, has been shown to cause liver damage to animals in laboratory studies. Moreover, it contributes to a general problem arising from the ubiquitous overuse of antibiotics: the creation of antibiotic-resistant super-bacteria. A 1998 Tufts University study, published in Nature, has demonstrated that some bacteria are resistant to triclosan's effects, setting the stage for future generations of bacteria immune to triclosan. This is of concern because triclosan is similar to two important disease-fighting human antibiotics: diazaborine, currently used against against E. coli, and isoniazid, an anti-tuberculosis drug. Breeding bacteria immune to triclosan's effects could compromise the effectiveness of these drugs. In March 2002, a U.S. Geological Survey study found triclosan in over 57% of the streams it surveyed, which suggests that bacteria have widespread opportunities to develop resistance. For these reasons, The Alliance for the Prudent Use of Antibiotics recommends avoiding triclosan and other over-the-counter antibacterials.


      RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS

      Aerosol products often use fossil fuels, such as butane and propane, as delivery agents. These are flammable and potentially irritating, and use nonrenewable resources. Moreover, the aerosol anti-perspirants introduce the product's metal-containing astringent salts into the air, where they can be inhaled. Prudent consumers may wish to avoid inhaling fossil fuels and metallic compounds. Aerosols that contain talc are another concern, as inhaling talc may be carcinogenic. For these reasons, The Green Guide does not recommend using aerosol anti-perspirants and deodorants, and none are reviewed in our chart below.



      INGREDIENTS CHART

      The following chart may prove helpful in sorting through personal care product ingredients. The 7 Ugly Ingredients in Personal Care Products pdf file beneath it may also be kept in your wallet as a handy guide:

      Ingredient Potential
      Irritant / Allergen Possible
      Cancer Risk Possible
      Hormone Disruption Risk
      Bronopol + +
      Coal tar +
      DEA, TEA, and MEA compounds +
      Diazolidinyl urea +
      DMDM hydantoin + +
      Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (SLS) +
      Fragrances + +
      (if phthalates present)
      Imidazolidinyl urea + +
      Quaternium 15 + +

      Click here to download a printable wallet-card listing the 7 Ugly Ingredients to Avoid in Personal Care products
      www.thegreenguide.com/pdf-fre...ugly.pdf
  • Re: Deoderant

    Thu, April 26, 2007 - 5:52 PM

    I love Tom's of Maine deoderant, and have been using it for probably 20 years. For a long time they didn't make the roller ball kind except in unscented, but recently they started making it in scented again.
  • Re: Deoderant

    Tue, May 1, 2007 - 8:52 AM
    So sad.... I had to go back to regular deoderant... at least for a bit. I was getting awful heat rashes under my arm. *sigh* I am trying but my body is just so F'ing sensative.
    • Re: Deoderant

      Tue, May 1, 2007 - 10:56 PM
      LUSH makes some pretty good natural deodorants - they seem pricey but last a long time. There are a couple of stores in sf but you can check out their products online www.lush.com
      • Re: Deoderant

        Wed, May 2, 2007 - 7:33 AM
        LUSH is awesome! I never heard of the store until I moved out here to Washington. Since they're HQ'd in British Columbia, we have a LUSH store in the Bellevue Square Mall. It's the only reason I go to the mall.
        I just wish they'd bring back some of their old shower gels like Slammer, and Chai. OK, Sonic Death Monkey is good, and Happy Hippie isn't bad either, but dammit I want my Slammer back!
  • Re: Deoderant

    Tue, May 1, 2007 - 10:59 PM
    I have the Toms of Maine one but it usually leaves a big red rash in my pit.......and doesnt work well to fight odor(at least for me). I hate traditional deodorants, but I'm still hard pressed to find a natural option that works....
    • Re: Deoderant

      Wed, May 2, 2007 - 12:55 AM
      I must admit that I don't use deoderant or anti-perspirant. I have allergies and cannot tolerate the scent of any of the scented ones (even having a co-worker or friend sit too close to me while wearing them is enough to trigger my allergies). I have one of those "hippie crystals" or mineral stones that kills off bacteria that I use if I can't grab a shower.

      I do realize that some people really do have to worry about body odor, due to body chemistry, illness, or diet, but I think the majority of us are a little too preoccupied with not sweating or with any kind of natural body scent.

      This opinion could also be due to the fact that I cannot tolerate chemical fragrances at all due to allergies and everywhere I go I am confronted with them, even when the location is designated a fragrance free zone.

      Just my little soap box rant, no offense intended. My nose and lungs are just very mad at me today...
      • Re: Deoderant

        Wed, May 2, 2007 - 9:22 AM
        I agree. It's just that my body is SO sensitive that I break out in heat rash under my arm if I sweat. It's true... and annoying. It's like I am allergic to my own sweat.

        If I didn't break out, I would forgo deoderant altogether unless I was doing something that I would be really sweating doing.
      • Re: Deoderant

        Thu, May 17, 2007 - 9:18 PM
        I use a crystal over the summer, on weekends, etc but when I work I HAVE to wear (unscented) deodorant - I know it's because I'm wearing clothes that don't breathe well (suits/blazers) but that 's just the way it is... and I won't lean over some kids desk with stinky pits (how cruel would THAT be??) so I'm sure I'm a bit self conscious about it too.
    • Re: Deoderant

      Wed, May 2, 2007 - 9:23 AM
      "Toms of Maine one but it usually leaves a big red rash in my pit"

      That's exactly what happened! I am STILL trying to get rid of it.
      • Re: Deoderant

        Wed, May 2, 2007 - 12:38 PM
        You guys got me thinkin, maybe I will go back to the crystal thing. They also have a convenient spray thats the same stuff I guess but in spray form...

        Aside from the harm, traditianl deodorants all have a strong scent, and I'm not allergic, but I just don't dig smelling like some cheap perfume they put in the stuff.
        • Re: Deoderant

          Fri, May 4, 2007 - 5:43 PM
          Be careful of the crystal. I've read that even ones that don't list aluminum as an ingredient sometimes contain it. I'll see if I can dig up my source.
          • Re: Deoderant

            Fri, May 4, 2007 - 6:18 PM
            www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/ART00320

            Here it is. I don't know how much creedence to give this statement as he doesn't really say where he gets his information.
            • Re: Deoderant

              Sat, May 5, 2007 - 3:49 PM
              The crystal I use actually states No Aluminum chlorhyrdrate. I also don't use it often. I like the fact that it kills the bacteria responsible for creating smell, rather than trying to mask the smell like some deorderants, or prevent sweating like antiperspirants.

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