Today my day began with a "jodel". I live in a big city and it highly unusual that someone jodels arround here, but in my neighborhood someone lives who just likes to jodel, I have never seen him but I heared him many times. In the Austrian alps this wonderful communication form was developed to communicate from mountain to mountain. But nowadays its only applied in mindless "folk" music without any deeper meening than just beeing melodic. But this raised a thought.
For my american folks its probably easier to connect to the walt disney movie, where a little fish who is forgetting every thought a second later is fully capable of speaking waleish.
What do you do when you are in moments without any thoughts. Like in states of beeing just happy and satisfied with your life, you go Aaaahhhhh. During sex people even tend to express themselves in a mutlitude of moans and groans and are very well understood by their oposing part. Basically when you count it all together what kind of different sighs you let loose during your life its like a vocabulary of many 100 different expressions. Coolest thing about it is... these expressions are understood in every country, by babies and even more by animals. Sometimes you dont even notice when you sigh, so its an expression of subconciousness and could basically be defined as a 5th dimensional language. Try to lie with a sigh... ;)
Now back to speech, with a couple of hundred words you can communicate through speech and are barely understood in the country where it is spoken. When someone answers though out of your vocabluary you just dont get what he wanted to say. What is speach actually mostly used for besides communicating just the necessary.
Manipulation, speech is more often used to manipulate than to communicate. It is used as a tool to either keep your minds busy, like TV peaking an a most idiotic invention the talk-show.
Or even more in politics, where it is not about communication at all and only about manipulation. Every democratic country is ruled by a parlament or a congress, but what happens before people make a vote there. One speech after the other, where the speaker tries to manipulate the audience to be convinced of his point of viewing things to process their vote accordingly. Besides the fact that it takes half a lifetime to learn and perfectionize the art of manipulation it takes the other half of a lifetime to manipulate people accordingly.
Speech as a tool of power, for those who are trained well to speak and accepted as a mere form of communication cherrished by the ones manipulated. I could go on and on about speach and where it is used to have power over someone else. Every discussion is involving this component no matter what the outcome is.
But people like to speak, some people are so used to it that they cant even stop. Well trained from early childhood on and especially in the usa, where some people spent 50% of their youth hanging on a phone due to a convenient local flat rate. When they are grown they are so used (addicted) to it that they dont even waste a minute of a though what sense it makes to chitter chatter about everything in their surrounding, as long as they can chatter. Most people in a modern society can not spend even 30 minutes in silence and the idea of going to a seminar where you spend 10 days in silence is totally out of question.
I attended a seminar where you mediate and spend 10 days in silence. And it was incredible what kind of addiction to speech is manifested within me. Sometimes there is an urge you need to speak, even if its just to yourself. But silence is not the only thing you do within those 10 days, also awareness meditation. And within those days of not speaking and concentrating on awareness your levels of concentration rise so much the effect of it is unspeakable. You get a glimpse of what a human is really capable of and the reality of beeing completely changes. Within those days you still sigh and express yourself through body language automatically but, no speaking creates a state where your brain is less and less busy thinking. Words create thoughts and thoughts create words, thats a cycle we are all living in.
And breaking out of this cycle for just a little while leaves you with all what the preciousness of a human brain is all about. Bliss followed by an enlightened state. But after those 10 days when you are allowed to speak again its incredible what happens. It impossible to concentrate on meditation anymore, its incredible how much crap gurgles out of you in the first hour of speaking and more incredible it is how much you need to speak.
Speaking allows you to lie, even to yourself. It allows you to be cynical, sarcastic, brutally critical which is the mother of all jokes. Yes people do need a good laugh to be happy, but you can laugh without speech, in a moment of bliss where it seems more beautiful than it ever was before. And it doesnt leave a guilty conciousness cause you made fun of someone or laughed because someone else did. it leaves joy which is one of the hardest to achieve aspects of enlightenment.
What do you think .. is it about time to finally stop talking...?? Do we need a new form of communication. Are wales truely a more intelligent species than man? Is this the key why we cant understand whalish, cause it would need a million words to explain what they express in a couple of crackles and moans...
For my american folks its probably easier to connect to the walt disney movie, where a little fish who is forgetting every thought a second later is fully capable of speaking waleish.
What do you do when you are in moments without any thoughts. Like in states of beeing just happy and satisfied with your life, you go Aaaahhhhh. During sex people even tend to express themselves in a mutlitude of moans and groans and are very well understood by their oposing part. Basically when you count it all together what kind of different sighs you let loose during your life its like a vocabulary of many 100 different expressions. Coolest thing about it is... these expressions are understood in every country, by babies and even more by animals. Sometimes you dont even notice when you sigh, so its an expression of subconciousness and could basically be defined as a 5th dimensional language. Try to lie with a sigh... ;)
Now back to speech, with a couple of hundred words you can communicate through speech and are barely understood in the country where it is spoken. When someone answers though out of your vocabluary you just dont get what he wanted to say. What is speach actually mostly used for besides communicating just the necessary.
Manipulation, speech is more often used to manipulate than to communicate. It is used as a tool to either keep your minds busy, like TV peaking an a most idiotic invention the talk-show.
Or even more in politics, where it is not about communication at all and only about manipulation. Every democratic country is ruled by a parlament or a congress, but what happens before people make a vote there. One speech after the other, where the speaker tries to manipulate the audience to be convinced of his point of viewing things to process their vote accordingly. Besides the fact that it takes half a lifetime to learn and perfectionize the art of manipulation it takes the other half of a lifetime to manipulate people accordingly.
Speech as a tool of power, for those who are trained well to speak and accepted as a mere form of communication cherrished by the ones manipulated. I could go on and on about speach and where it is used to have power over someone else. Every discussion is involving this component no matter what the outcome is.
But people like to speak, some people are so used to it that they cant even stop. Well trained from early childhood on and especially in the usa, where some people spent 50% of their youth hanging on a phone due to a convenient local flat rate. When they are grown they are so used (addicted) to it that they dont even waste a minute of a though what sense it makes to chitter chatter about everything in their surrounding, as long as they can chatter. Most people in a modern society can not spend even 30 minutes in silence and the idea of going to a seminar where you spend 10 days in silence is totally out of question.
I attended a seminar where you mediate and spend 10 days in silence. And it was incredible what kind of addiction to speech is manifested within me. Sometimes there is an urge you need to speak, even if its just to yourself. But silence is not the only thing you do within those 10 days, also awareness meditation. And within those days of not speaking and concentrating on awareness your levels of concentration rise so much the effect of it is unspeakable. You get a glimpse of what a human is really capable of and the reality of beeing completely changes. Within those days you still sigh and express yourself through body language automatically but, no speaking creates a state where your brain is less and less busy thinking. Words create thoughts and thoughts create words, thats a cycle we are all living in.
And breaking out of this cycle for just a little while leaves you with all what the preciousness of a human brain is all about. Bliss followed by an enlightened state. But after those 10 days when you are allowed to speak again its incredible what happens. It impossible to concentrate on meditation anymore, its incredible how much crap gurgles out of you in the first hour of speaking and more incredible it is how much you need to speak.
Speaking allows you to lie, even to yourself. It allows you to be cynical, sarcastic, brutally critical which is the mother of all jokes. Yes people do need a good laugh to be happy, but you can laugh without speech, in a moment of bliss where it seems more beautiful than it ever was before. And it doesnt leave a guilty conciousness cause you made fun of someone or laughed because someone else did. it leaves joy which is one of the hardest to achieve aspects of enlightenment.
What do you think .. is it about time to finally stop talking...?? Do we need a new form of communication. Are wales truely a more intelligent species than man? Is this the key why we cant understand whalish, cause it would need a million words to explain what they express in a couple of crackles and moans...
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Re: Speech the mother of thoughts - Silence the mother of enlightenment
Sat, October 13, 2007 - 12:30 PMmy boyfriend and i decided not to long ago to use sounds rather than words to express ourselves in certain situations, it helps to avoid misunderstandings................but that's just us =)))))))) -
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Re: Speech the mother of thoughts - Silence the mother of enlightenment
Sat, October 13, 2007 - 7:05 PMMy girl and I tend to use more and more sounds in our conversations. What are the situations you are talking about. Where do you think this altered form of communication is applicable now...?
Mhmrrm ... hard to write those sounds though :) -
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Re: Speech the mother of thoughts - Silence the mother of enlightenment
Sun, October 14, 2007 - 2:19 AMwhen on of us is upset or just in a bad mood, we use sounds, they seem to be more precise than words....or when we play...........and a little bit all the time ;-))))
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