Is it possible at all?

topic posted Fri, September 15, 2006 - 7:08 PM by  ENIAD
What are the chances of developing a happy lasting relationship with a person living on a different continent?
Is it possible at all?
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ENIAD
Montreal
  • Re: Is it possible at all?

    Sun, September 17, 2006 - 1:28 AM
    My take.. it depends on the person. Also the age of the person and how likely he or she is to wait for an extended period of time. Also about circumstances and the ability to move. What do the laws say about citizenship? The timeframe of the realltion too, people are normally pretty tied up and might need alot of time. I think there is cases with rellations, looners mainly.. That keep it together, and see their partner less frequent. However, most people would never coop with that! I think it,s possible if people really set their mind and will to it. Living apart with a limited ways to communicate, it would be very time consuming and energy taking, not the sort of rellation i would like in the long term atleast. It would also create alot of frustrations. As long as one of the partners dosent move, i dont give a cent for it in the long term. But then.. it depends on the person and the persons need of physical presence too.
    • Re: Is it possible at all?

      Tue, September 26, 2006 - 4:55 PM
      I agree that it is stilted and unnatural. It would probably work for people who are quite happy on their own with the idea of a far away friend that they may actually meet at one point/or not and especially that they do not have to relate to on a permanent basis. Not seeing the partner in any sustained way is safe for such people.
      It is not my kind of relationship either but more of a friendship and should be recognized as such.
      The long distance relationship, not even what we are referring to here but one where people meet on the occasional week-end develops its own set of rules where people are always on best behaviour so the real problems, that always crop up in a real relationship do not get resolved. It is also not real in a sense. Things are left unsaid; people develop ways of relating that have to be readjusted and then the relationship probably goes through a time compression if it becomes daily.
      There is more than one person we can be happy and perform at our best and but meeting a soulmate is very rare and finding one on another continent throws an interesting kink into the subject. However, if we are all given a hand to play with, the real game is in the playing, as always. An ordinary relationship does not have to be begotten so far. A humbler one closer to home would do since people also become used to their partners. Some prefer relationships that are almost like business deals with partners that will fulfill their end of the contract without too much disruptive "love" or closeness. That could be the average couple. There is not even friendship involved.

      People need their own space and time for activity and development. I know I do. But being away all the time makes it impossible to become a couple. You can't be a couple without somehow being in the same space for long periods. Life goes on. Maybe relationships have their own time span and do not intensify without the help of intimacy but go into arrested development and slowly start to unravel. Other nearby bodies become attractive if only because of simple proximity.
      We are spirit welded to flesh and must live in both worlds. Sexuality is one place where both worlds meet.
      • Re: Is it possible at all?

        Tue, October 3, 2006 - 8:49 PM
        ENIAD
        I have had a LDR for about 4 yrs, we would spend the weekends together, talk on the phone and e mail each other during the week. It's not that bad, it gives each person freedom and space. In my opinion, if you see each other every day at the beggining of the relationship and during the time where you start to develop "love feelings" for that person; if you see them everyday you could either get sick of seeing that person every day or not.
        But i think that it's a good thing to do before you take any big steps like moving in together or marriage.
        I also think that is a good time to figure out in your heart if this person is your "soulmate" or not. But i guess you know that with time and your heart somehow will let you know.

        Deffenetly phisical contact is very important in a relationship. Some people are able to go without the touch of their sweety for months, i woun't be hugging mine until next year when he comes back.
        I have no idea how these people do it, i wish i knew their secret because it's extreamly hard not to have them next to you at night and at those moments of need. IT SUCKS !!!
        • Re: Is it possible at all?

          Fri, May 16, 2008 - 4:37 AM
          Hi Eniad,

          I've been in a LDR for 2.5 years (he works in Baghdad, I'm in Sydney) and we spend three (sporadic) months of the year together. I get the feeling he just likes to be in a relationship, however despite loving him very much I am wondering how much longer I can persevere. Anyway, this has been our pattern since meeting...and when/if he did come home to settle down with me, how does a relationship built on separateness survive constant togetherness? One may wait for nothing?

          Anne x
  • Re: Is it possible at all?

    Fri, September 22, 2006 - 4:59 PM
    I think it's deffenetly possible. right now, i'm in a long distance relationship where my boyfriend of 4 yrs is in another continent and he has to stay there for a year, it has been almost 6 months since he left.
    At the beggining is very hard to let them go and to give yourself the idea that you woun't be able to have ay kind of psysical contact. You know, just to hug them when you are feeling down or just their company.
    But it's possible, if you put your heart and your mind, both of you of course, can do it then anything is possible.
    The heart is very hard to manage because sometimes you feel like you are going to go nuts because he is not there with you, specially when he happends to be in your mind all of the time and there are little things that remind you so much of him. Not just that but when you miss those little moments of tenderness, love, passion, lust, laughter etc...
    What you can do and this really helps, you can talk on the internet with a webcam, it kind of makes you feel like you are there and it makes you feel good to se him and to hear him.
    Talking on the phone and closing your eyes and imigine that he is sitting right next to you looking into your eyes, helps.
    Not only that, but if you allow him/her to miss you helps a lot too, it kind of bring you closer, opens your eyes and allows you to see what your real felings are for that person.
    Sexy and cute e mails help too.
    About the chances, it all really depends on the kind of realtionship you have and on the person too. it also depends on how commited you guys are and how much you love each other. So this long distance relationships are about testing both of you and taking your chances.
    Well those are my two cents, i hope it helps
  • FJ
    FJ
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    Re: Is it possible at all?

    Fri, January 5, 2007 - 4:30 PM
    Its a step-by-step process.
    I am speaking from experience.
    I started an Internet relationship with a woman from South America via Friendfinder.com. Ours might be a special case, as we are both intellectually gifted in a way...so the process of getting to know each other mentally through writing and photos was perhaps easier for us than most people. We shared similar interests AND similar ideas and philosophies, hands down. Our relationship also had a very innocent beginning. There was no talk of sex or romance at first. It was just a mutual interest in each other and our ideas and self-expression. She began to proclaim romantic feelings for me online, which I told her to keep under her hat for the time being, since we were not able to explore our relationship further at that time. This made her respect me even more.
    Our exchange became regular and we were conversing online for hours perhaps 5 days a week. Not long after that we were talking on the phone in short spurts. A few months later we were having LONG conversations on the phone, from New York to Peru, lasting several hours sometimes. I learned that she was planning on coming to the U.S. to work somewhere in the northeast, but she didn't know where yet.

    We first contacted each other in Fall 2004, and in September 2006 she started working in Pennsylvania. She was no longer 4000 miles away, but now just 360. She admitted that she had been looking specifically for pen-pals or relationships in the northeast since she would be working here....but somehow our correspondence had become totally serious. we both obviously were burning with curiosity about each other. Finally I met her just days after she arrived in P.A.. - she would not officially start working for another 2 weeks.
    Upon my arrival, all my expectations of her were right on the level. This was undoubtedly the girl I thought I knew. She had a curious blend of adventurousness and extreme shyness and caution. Over the course of 4 days we travelled around western P.A. together covering more than 500 miles. We both explored territory which was neutral to us both, as I had never been as far west by car.
    Our relationship maintained an air of innocence and old-fashioned conservatism over that 4 days, and although I propositioned her affections more than once, it became evident that on this trip I would not have more than her kiss.

    We made plans to see each other again, and 5 weeks later I was back her way. In between we kept in touch constantly, via cellular text-messaging and late-night phone conversations which lasted for hours. We were talking intimately almost every night. When I returned during Thanksgiving, she had established herself at a modest apartment in a small town. I stayed for 8 days. Over that period, we bagan to have our first lovers quarrels, which I saw as a "quickening", or a neccessary catalyst for getting to really know each other. Our relationship also became sexual, albeit somewhat awkward and exploratory. She was muchless experienced than I was. In spite of this we remained loyally dedicated to maintaining our bond, and it became evident to us both that our relationship went FAR beyond the quest for sexual gratification.
    When I was back in NY, we began to argue some heavy personal issues on the phone, but we made plans to see each other again over the New Year's weekend. That time I spent 4 days with her, and to my surprise the sexual part of our relationship took off, maybe not at supersonic speed...but definately going somewhere. We also had no major arguements during that 4 days, and we had as much out of the bedroom as we did in the bedroom. We were discovering that we are truly capable of a balanced relationship.
    Since then we have been discussing even more serious issues; Things which could be described as domestically important. We found that we are perfectly capable of co-habitating. We have spent 13 days living at close quarters simply doing what we always do when we are alone. There has never been the slightest altercation or irritation between us at all on the subject of living together. I am still wary of it, but it seems very obvious what our habits are and where we stand on domestic issues. We even had a little "scare" involving her possible pregnancy, and neither of us panicked or laid a trip on the other.

    So that's where it stands. The conversations have moved to increasingly serious levels now. A few demands, but nothing truly unreasonable. Gradually the intensity and frequency of our arguments are beginning to fade. If anything, we are both a little shocked at where this appears to be leading. It leaves us short of any bold ravashing declarations; We really just stand by each other with a quiet dedication. I'd say we are an unusually serious couple, but we have stuck by each other through it all so far rather loyally. You might look at us and say, "Well, those two look like Ma & Pa Kettle!" as opposed to some scorching love-affair. I wouldn't be one to disagree. We don't advertise our affections for each other in public. But they are there, very innocent and unquestionably real.

    I hope my true story gives some folks hope.
    I believe it is QUITE possible to cultivate a relationship from afar.
    I still don't know about my true destiny with this woman, but this relationship is truly more "real", sweet, intimate and serious than anything I ever had before...and I wasn't born yesterday.





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    Re: Is it possible at all?

    Tue, January 16, 2007 - 10:29 PM
    It is possible. I met a Thai woman on line and we became friends. We were honest with each other and learned all about each other. It wasn't long before we were in love with each other. It started in April 99 and I finally got to visit Thailand in Nov 99. We met face to face and still love each other to this day. I've been back to Thailand from the US 10 times in 8 years. Going again this year and next year in 2008 I will move there permanently.
  • Re: Is it possible at all?

    Tue, January 23, 2007 - 6:48 PM
    I think it is possible. I am in a LDR right now, myself. I met a man online who is a Chartered Engineer from England, but is now working in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, and is an operations manager for Siemens there. He has a contract to stay there for the next two years or so, but it is possible that he may be able to be finished earlier.

    We met on an Wiccan pen-pal site. He and I are both Wiccan. We were not looking for romance when we started writing to each other, but that is what we found. We have a spiritual bond that I can't even describe. Neither of us can explain what we have found with each other. It is wonderful.

    We started out writing emails every few days or so, then it became every day. Soon we were sending each other emails several times a day. Then he started calling on the phone. Next we progressed to internet phoning (check out the Skype program....its a free download, and all you need is a hand-free headset and it allows you to call computer to computer for free..you can also call land lines ,and mobile phones for a reduced rate). And now we both have webcams so we can see each other. We talk almost every day, and for hours at a time. We have spent as high as 7 1/2 hours at one time on the phone. Gods bless Skype!

    We have plans for him to fly here for a 9 day visit in May. And then he will be paying for me to fly to Dubai at some point after that. I can't say where this relationship will go, but it seems to be going in a way that will mean we will be together eventually.

    It really requires a lot of trust, dedication and work for a long distance relationship to work, but it can, and does.

    Raven
    • FJ
      FJ
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      Re: Is it possible at all?

      Wed, January 31, 2007 - 1:20 PM
      Rave:

      >We have a spiritual bond that I can't even describe. Neither of us can explain what we have found with each other. It is wonderful.<


      My partner and I feel exactly the same way about our LDR as you described. The words you used hit the spot totally. I wonder if Internet dating is a new "evolutionary spiritual phenomenon" for the human race, as if it is realy something we are "supposed" to do based on our own development of the computer as a communications tool...and now we are evolving around our invention.
      My Internet relationship with my girlfriend lasted almost 2 years, and now our long-distance physical relationship (regular visits to each other) has lasted for over 4 months. It seems to be growing on its own, and we are just steering it. What you described sounds the same to me. I wonder if maybe most people put TOO MUCH into their "normal" relationships, but the Internet forces people to back off and live and let live...and then we see how a relationship can really grow by itself when nobody smothers it! Maybe it then becomes even more evident how something was "meant to be".
      In our LDR, there seem to be regular hurdles, but they always seem like they are part of a "program" of some sort! It seems like just enough hardship to make us grow together, but never enough to make us resentful or derail our desires for more than a few hours. In our case, we seem to fight more on the phone than in person. When we are together, we are fairly happy no matter what we do.

      The bond that we have can only be described as "spiritual", the same word you used...and yet it grew out of Cyberspace. Amazing. Even our families have similar issues, we like the same food, the same types of restaurants, the same music, the same geographic places and artwork... The list goes on. When we fight, it is usually about very small issues about communicating fairly. It is all we argue ever about, and as we get to know each other, communicating in so many words becomes less and less important.

      I'll finish my entry with another quote from you. I think it sums it up:

      >I can't say where this relationship will go, but it seems to be going in a way that will mean we will be together eventually<



  • m
    m
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    Re: Is it possible at all?

    Wed, January 31, 2007 - 9:53 AM
    i thought so....I spent ten months dreaming and creating some kind of illusion...i was living in Europe and my love in Canada...I believed it was an eternal love...an unconditional feeling...it was hard but I was being told by him how much he loved me and that it was worth it....I believed in his EVERY word...he was accusing me of not being able to trust him completely...i tried SO MUCH...and then it turned out I should not have...he was lying to me...I don't know why to this very day...he came here and went away with another girl before seeing me...fortunately, I left him because I sensed something was wrong...we met at the airport where he was telling me how cruel I was, how suspicious and how much I hurt him...when I felt extremely guilty and down I came across his pics with this girl taken in a place where WE were supposed to spend a week....this place was my utopia about which I had been telling him for those ten months of waiting....I got stronger and this experience taught me LOTS....nevertheless, I cannot understand why would anyone lie so much...so i suggest thinking twice...because there is no better way to know someone than BEING with them....e-mails, calls, msn, text messages are not REAL LIFE, they are just some kind of surrogates....love is about little things; touch, look, smile,smell,voice....being with someone who lives on a different continent makes sense only if you two guys want to spend the rest of your life together....and now it's just a test, some odds that must be overcome....but what is the point of having a relationship with a phantom? just to fight the loneliness?

    wishing you luck no matter what you will decide :)

    M.
  • Re: Is it possible at all?

    Fri, March 2, 2007 - 5:48 AM
    GGOD CHANCES PROVIDED UR TASTES MATCH-BOTH OF THE TWO
    • Re: Is it possible at all?

      Sun, March 4, 2007 - 6:31 PM
      My conclusion:

      From what I gather from reading the material on this tribe and others that are very similar it can work if two prerequisites are filled:

      The love offered is of such a quality that it cannot be found on any ordinary street corner. People mutually resounding in an uncanny way and fitting together with highly unusual ease. Though this could happen locally and does, it is rare. It could warrant the extra energy put into a long-distance relationship to bridge the distance close.

      The willingness and degree of maturity of the "couple" to close the distance and make it possible as a livable relationship: "livable" used here in the many senses of the expressions.

      This is more than chance but planning, maturity, work and genuine love.

      A gem worth waiting for if that is what you've got. Anything else will fall by the wayside and be eliminated.

      But why would you purposely choose that type of relationship over a "real" one if you are simply looking for a relationship, Arun ?
      • Well, my long distance love turned out to be a cheap run-around. I found out in time and there was no physical intimacy to depen the link and health risk.
        I don't get the type very often.

        However, there are many great men in the world and many are far away from me. I may just end up in a long distance relationship again after reading the great profiles on okCupid and other dating site I am joining. There are loving and faithful men around. Most are.
        I like the idea of meeting the person from the inside out.
        I have learned and am in a process of learning and have faith that the next man will turn out much better.
        My heart is French and I am happy at heart. We call it Joie de vivre.
        There are no bad experiences, only learning experiences.
        The best revenge is being happy.
  • Re: Is it possible at all?

    Tue, March 6, 2007 - 3:17 PM
    well to tell you the truth it is now seven years I keep a long distance relationship. We met each other three times. He lives in the States and I live in Argentina, South America. I dated many men here in my country but this guy from the States is my true love, the one that in person makes me the happiest one on Earth. I'm really in love with him. I have recently flew back from meeting him. We've been together for a month in his country and to tell you the truth, he knows me better than my own family. It is possible to develop a relationship with someone on the other side of the world YES but you have to be patient, try to trust the other person and keep the flame of love alive everyday. In my case, we call each other everyday, we remember things we lived together when in person, we try to support the other morally, we understand each other. A distant relationship is VERY DiFFiCULT but it is POSSIBLE when your love for the other person is that BiG. Want to know what follows now??? well, we were about to marry when I was there in Feb, but I'm waiting for him to finish his school and he is moving out here to start a family. Both of us are willing to have kids. AS soon as he gets here, we are going to marry. His parents agreed on the marriage and after a long fight with my parents because of the different cultures, they accepted that he is the one I love and want to live for the rest of my life. You just have to be confident with yourself and with the relationship itself.
    • Re: Is it possible at all?

      Wed, March 7, 2007 - 7:26 AM
      Congrats Mariel, you did show up on clue here. It sounds like you have met a soulmate.
      You went through all the necessary steps.
      Since I live in a remote area and am looking for an interesting person, I could land in a long-distance relationship, at first.
      I like the idea of meeting the person from the inside out contrary to the bar scene though I really like to dance too. I am a nerd in party girl outfit.
      I hope I will be patient enough to go through the necessary ups-and-downs that such relationships take. I have really learned a lesson on that front and the necessity of letting things unfold naturally with the right person: "To be patient, try to trust the other person and keep the flame of love alive everyday."

      As an avid note taker I jolted that one down.
  • Re: Is it possible at all?

    Tue, March 13, 2007 - 4:50 AM
    There should be good chaces,as less time to meet, less chance to differ on any point.
    I had been to montreal last summer, i love the city.
    If u really love someone there is always a desire for physical relations at ealiest.Am i right?
    Arun