Twisted Sister Repost

topic posted Tue, September 22, 2009 - 1:24 PM by  Scott
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Hey! Less some guilt-n-blame cycle from Luana:


Re: Blue Crock
Today, 12:14 AM
"I could care less if you deleet my posts on your threads"
"..thats how little intrest i have in your...threads"
"..is to trap me in my own reflection"

That's some f'' up paranoia/unmoved fear there alright"
unmoved fear to accusation (blame is unmoved anger).
Added with me 'not getting' Daisy's earlier post today, now I see:

it's PURE guilt-blame cycle in BOTH your cases! Unmoved fear, unmoved rages as blame, over and over and as modus operandi.
For some I may not know whether they looked into Godchannel', it was pretty obvious that Grandfather is all about clearing enTIREly from all guilt-blame cycle (of these unmoved emotions). (They go round and round, back and forth).

That's why it was fully confusing to me: unmoved emotions UNDER guilt-blame
but He/They were definitely kissing them Goodbye. !?!?!?!!

So, this is not clear. It's divvying up the forum and haphazardly too. Somehow one must ACT apart from guilt-blame cycles yet MOVE the emotions anyway. I think of osmosing-process for the moment-and Diffusion. One must LIVE and guilt-blame won't allow that too well. So, whatever one can 'take' of this cycle, but also, please Move On.

I can vouch for making a move to LIVE and the emotions the next level below will shift into alignment.

It's plenty serious and there's plenty warning too-the more one chooses guilt or rage, the less others NOT there will have to leave you there. So today, I have chunks of Luana and Daisy choosing guilt and/or blame...that's that. I don't know where it's going, I just enjoy a good forum. Will 'denial'/guilt-blame cycle win it?

And taking this cycle to WORDS and later, RUoW wordings, o my...

S

"
I have no idea what you are droneing on about, "

Yes, we know, Booana-don't mind ME talking normal anyway.

So how would YOU like your posts removed from such, my thread?

Hurry now-O that's right, no timetable at ALL relating with you, no coMUNning-just cut off or up any Blue, good OR bad.-
Guess I'll decide on my own anyway but there it is.

If I'm just too serious for you, then you have too much maligned Daughter 'going on'. Child until equal.

S

So

Let me top that off with a selection, it being the time of the Autumn Equinox
Bill Bailey (great, funny GUY!)
Cowbells
"The Swan"

www.youtube.com/watch

4 guys in tucks' playing with their bells can't be all bad for the sweating ladies-ha-
Later,
S


Re: Blue Crock
Yesterday, 6:29 PM
Well, I'd give you a 'C' for the content and effort
but the negative tones
plus the unfinished homework from before
makes a 'D'
IF THAT
(If I were you I'd worry about my own damages first) Best (to) shut up and talk lie Elders should as fine wine-with lower Chakras more attnded with than the YOUNGER SISTERS above! Yea: BINGO on the mercury poisoning so many of us have! Do NOT get mercury for the teeth, etc! O, you're a little late like guilt butt

Since you still don't know how to Talk to me
like bringin Santy a GIFT
to help ALL RELATING
I return my own unfinished shit to you
(see if later I can make a Gem out of it)

GREAT PHOTOS RAE THANKS! Looking good!


::::

Busted brats in Baton Rouge
she never waited for her brain
with a feeling near as jaded as my Greens

Nate-y thumbed a shaman down
just before he strained
and ruined a song 'the way to New Orleans

Luana would be so serpentine
they'd just hack at Scotty's line
and blasted every post that Scotty knew

They couldn't get to their Tomorrow
stuck in Yesterday
-just shoo (t) away the hearts
and on the Body, dine

Yea they traded their tomorrows for one old crappy yesterday
to ride on out a lowly, sickly Blue

-oo-oo

:)

Hey! Who's saying this shit?! ::

"...I heard Scott tell you that your will was to blame for his broken brain. What a crock of shit! ..."

Miscommunication, mixed message! How ANCIENT!

Just b/c Blue's going down,...one can let it, but don't have to HELP it

S



Re: If one opposes Luana, you're sure to be described as a Mother hater, especially if you happen to be a male participant with this tribe group !
Sat, September 19, 2009 - 4:06 PM
Make me, shut up, you Repulsive Troll/ Toad !


Re: Twisted Sister
Sat, September 19, 2009 - 1:48 PM
Scott, Andora

Have you noticed lately that Luana just seem to have this great habit of spitting in most our eyes.

Pink, makes a brief comment recently and guess who rags out on her from out of the blue?

Then she claims to love Pink now and even giving her subtle advice.

Now she claims, Scott not to know what your talking about that its beyond her. Like I say she reminds me of the character Colonel Frank Slade from the movie " A Scent of a Woman " She's so miserable, she's gotta bleed most of us here to get us down to her level of being miserable.


Re: Twisted Sister
Sat, September 19, 2009 - 11:42 AM
OK
Andora

In your Repost, if I'm not mistaken, you took down the part that I was talking about: the 'snakes' that deem to come together and form Heart. I thought such was singularly, 'your best' here so far.

Anyway, I 'kiss your spot of remorse' that it be well, fly away, whatever. (Not 'superiority' about Luana ,that thread began over her just flinging such vehement charge at internet yet some more-separation lasted several years-(and so of many people's sakes this forum being different and more public)-'something had to be done' feeling in me with readiness).

Nice chat moment I wouldn't mind more in real life

just,.(go in, be in)..Peace
S


Re: Twisted Sister
Sat, September 19, 2009 - 10:45 AM
I went for the ploy scott,

i saw and chimed in on your post that Luana was a non-RUoW claiming to be superior in her approach, and was triggered by you in this! I needed to first find out what you were claiming for myself, and i did not see this about her until she willfully dug her heels in and refused to clean up her own gap/sexual-relationship. Now, i understand what you were trying to say and have some remorse for mis-treating you behind my triggers.

i do not wish to play war....i was very much in love with luana....i had been praying for a peer, someone who had taken on the same studies that i have and was able to relate to the process of parenting and grandparenting. We had so many parallels in our lives that i thought i had finally met the best friend i had always been missing in my life. my best friends in RUoW are all the same age as my eldest daughter, i'm not complaining about this, it is what it is and we are all still very close. But. Lu....i gotta say, even with her choices of remaining dishonest, i still love her dearly and am grieving the loss of our friendship. i don't want her as an adversary, i don't want anyone present here as an adversary - and - it is what it is, i know i trigger people by writing lengthy responses - i wonder if people really understand what i am trying to say, but, i needed to say it -regardless.

i haven't been reading her responses to me because she is so far out there with the competition shit that i feel sick about even seeing her attempts. i didn't read what billy said, and i will not open to this type of manipulation. I abandoned luana because she has no integrity and she is lying to the man she makes love to - then she drags him forward to co-sign her corrupt and mean-spirited ways. in this, she is a very dangerous woman, and in this i don't think he cares much about her integrity....he just wants to be sheltered from the law. so they can have each other, denied mother in the gap, by herself, loves it when heart son is so crippled he can't get the fuck away from her to become self-sufficient! Hell, the problems she is suffering from stem from the fact he is incapable of making a living, so she compensates in ways she does not share with him. heart son, polarized to the will, has an ungodly relationship to money and is hating himself bc mother is the only help here. not the type of reciprocity i'm looking for.

i appreciate that you gained something from my posts. this i needed - needed to be received - considering the ways i have alienated you in the past, i must also express appreciation when it is true, as well. i hope your response is genuinely about what i was writing rather than just a good opportunity to blast the lu. not my judgment call.

mahalo for your aloha
join to post


Re: Twisted Sister
Sat, September 19, 2009 - 9:56 AM
You're the reason men are holding on to their jackass Minds (Luana)
cause YOU'RE holding something Will-wise

just as Andora was bringing up yesterday in some fine charity of hers (I'd much rather align with something like that, here

tribes.tribe.net/lostwillf...f2f4ad3142

and what'd you do? You let Billy speak!)

HI BILLY WHAT UP?! Everybody say HI BILLY!
O, darn, he's not a member or anything HMM

You spoke down about CHELA
Luana

never smelled her
never saw saw what she looked like
or spoke to her
never knew much more of how her father treated her
don't know what size her breasts are

We'd HAD our Even Trade and moved on, she physically so
but what did you care?

You spoke ill of her here or the opposite, wasn't it?
What do you got on me? NOTHING!
Lost Will shuts you up before you speak DESIRE

Andora spoke it well yesterday, the balance needed, where and how that balance is/may be found and you mis-spake Andora, whooppee!
We really 'LIKE' all that huh?!
Andora deserves something, I don't know what, can only say 'bless her'

..'shuts you up'..even would I have some evil MoFo in my hood, you and Nathan-with Andora having chimed in on it too-it doesn't mean you have some DIBS on me and it at this forum! Do the DO!

You-know, and a guy must always say thanks for whatever he may travel, be it Unity-trail of her own imperfections-after-devotions using the internet
or of something sleazing out the edges of what denial a woman may hold I'm talking about-yet speaks out here as Lost Will anyway
if we can take it.

Good luck wid dat

a Dios
S


Scott
offline 13
Re: Twisted Sister
Sat, September 19, 2009 - 9:11 AM
I 'told you' you suck last night, Luana

"MAY EVERYTHING LIVE

MAY EVERYTHING DIE "

Forget about Lost Will much?

Piss off with that shit.

Sept 19


Glad you're up early Luana

R-n-R ain't noise pullution

why couldn't you take a MWarrior stance with all this, Luana, if things are so damned terrible between us, and you with others that you keep getting booted? You could catch me unclean for they won't let 'being in denial' through-why the FW' instead if so damned terrible between us?
Cause you break the law. We could've been clear for example, that I need to move terror, if the MW's hate terror and otherwise lay it out with using a forum like this.

Cause last night, I make myself look like a fool trying to reply to this

"You are starten to be a guilt reflection here like Scott, we just skim over his long ass posts to scan for our name.....
You dont wanna be seen like Scott do Ya? "

You know what that is? That's 'defamation of character' and a small slew of like 'laws' showing one thing in their FALSENESS, this REPEAT: you're not doing this Path. You always...keep...going here! Cause you don't do the homework, you don't Move the CHARGE related to the 'Emotional Body' and harmonize it with the rest of Self as pertains to such as this Grouping! Your ignorance shows, your bad intent shows! WHY?!

Ungrounded, outward projection. GUESSING while only abusing me/my name-and of course others like the general state of this forum.

There are ten Games we could play with this Material instead of low-life-breaking-the-law. My starting a thread was about you, us and the books-not law-breaking; the WHOLE difference between US and the FWarriors!

Heart presence doesn't travel through here and JOKES don't travel through here-such will tend to claim 'lighten up, she was only joking'. Sorry, not really. I still suspect she threw asura that sealed it enough for me for the time being. Should I Give In to something like that, HMM?! Nope, WE know better.

Piss off with that shit Luana.

S
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  • Re: Twisted Sister Repost

    Sun, October 4, 2009 - 9:21 PM

    Today, 9:11 PM from Luana and her 'RUoW' again
    "
    Scott, you are a mother hateing bucket of dog vomit
    and i will pray that you burn in the firey pits of hell forever "
    • Re: Twisted Sister Repost

      Sun, October 4, 2009 - 9:37 PM
      It isnt gonna do you any good Scott....this smear campain,

      the more shit i give you, the more people secretly like me

      Like You, yourself, You are such a submissive little denied heart panty waist

      that your favorite thing in the world is to get me to spank your naughty little shaman ass with my ridding crop

      Ther ya go, you little ruow diaper boy.
      • Re: Twisted Sister Repost

        Sun, October 4, 2009 - 10:02 PM
        I don't have any feelings today scott
        just a pressure in my third eye
        I decided to do no thing but eat chocolate, olives, basil goat cheese/crackers, chocolate truffle cake, oodles of white widdow tons of History Channel and separation from other's....except for this forum.....you all have my undivided attention

        and then, i read this

        i guess i should investigate morphine next!

        grief has me, like a pit bull holding a chihuahua

        there isn't enough cacao to drown this in....

        i wish we were on the other side of this scott and i want you to know that being witnessed for my true intent by you is very helpful to me


        i can take giving expression to the gap, and looking into the jaws of estrangement to try and find new understandings, but i - at least - need a little love around the edges
        please and thank you


        i miss being luana's friend
        • Re: Twisted Sister Repost

          Sun, October 4, 2009 - 10:13 PM
          I miss You too Honey

          But i cant just let you go off half cocked now can i ?

          Like all the others have.

          Dont make me kick your ass anymore, just do some work that you have been needing to do for too long
          and still not have the skills not to get yourself killed.

          If you do it anyways, now, at least i can say that i tryed
        • Re: Twisted Sister Repost

          Sun, October 4, 2009 - 11:21 PM
          Andora

          You mentioned the third eye, have you the ability to access the clairvoyance through meditation of some sort to utilize this feature of ourselves?

          It has been said that for many of us our spiritual muscles are very weak.This would be a great miscle I would like to get working again.

          Robert-W.L.
          • Re: Twisted Sister Repost

            Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:17 AM
            I didn't even finish getting back to you on that, Andora!
            Jeez: women, they give you Life and you never live it down! :)

            'Separation'? No, we're all connected some by Earth' surface and body.
            Isolated? More like it

            MORPHINE?! Pls no-I heard 'how good' it was all along-all addictive. You're talking about the pain here?
            I would try to get something light for myself but nothing ever would pan out,
            so just trying to get caffeine and tobacco right-they remain legal.

            You DO mean 'white widdow' like some sort of ice cream or something?

            Well, wish on, who knows. Sounds quite pleasant, a nice uh, 'side' with you..
            Thanks-sorry about the joining in with the 'poke in the whiskers' thing a bit, such can go INSTANTly to my head!-such delicate ice-skating to do here reminds me of Fairies, jack frost. (Close the big bopper 'up there' some)...
            S
            • Re: He's baa-ack for a Dump

              Mon, October 5, 2009 - 9:44 AM
              "...frankly i'm pissed to come here and see 65 more goddam posts of this garbage. what the hell?"

              ennnnnhhh!

              Yea, most of us HAVE READ it is 'parental' to take blame. What they're doing is stopping the bs (you) comPLAINed about here.
              If you don't Bless your food, and dump around

              you could be
              (ta DA!)

              LUCIFILL

              "what's the point of wasting your time arguing with the gap here for god's sake?"

              O, maybe to let surface BAD INTENT, or expose hidden agenda, or such VESTED INTEREST in holding the gap present; denial-IF YOU CAN BEAR IT. Things-like-that. Careful, yea. Extremely repeating: no.

              'leave him alone'...
          • Re: Twisted Sister Repost

            Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:03 PM
            all i can say Robert is that i would still be living under the illusion of power, the illusion of getting special powers, if i had not finished the series of books we are attempting to discuss in an adult fashion

            i feel sad that you are not here with me in this knowledge because it doesn't make sense to me to attempt to give you insight if you refuse the insight that indigo can give you here. we all have responsibility in indigo....even though that book popped my bubble of hopefulness, and sent me into the dregs, I highly recommend going there. like i said, i would even be willing to hold your hand here, if you were willing to go in there and report what you find. i feel like in need you there with me, but it is impossible to share what i know with you unless you understand your part in indigo....it didn't kill me, but I have only been able to read it twice, whereas i read the others many times over. maybe we need to go there together. i have some energy for you in this....even if it is negligible levels of patience on top

            i hope you know that i say these things to you in love,
            love for your delicate heart
            your sensitivity
            i don't think less of you in this
            i just want you to know what you want to know
            i can't share anything about the gap in indigo, unless you read it too
            i would even ask you to wait to read panGasm until you read indigo. I don't think anyone can address ORIGINAL ORIGINAL CAUSE in a loving and responsible manner, until they read the last book of the series

            i'm going to order ceannes new book today
            i know she has some good advice about unlocking the amygdallah

            thanks for your presence here WL, it's nice to have decent conversations
            • Re: Twisted Sister Repost

              Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:21 PM
              Andora

              I have every intention of reading Indigo, but the timing needs to be right for me in order to understand it.

              The third eye subject is something I have across in other material.
      • Re: Twisted Sister Repost

        Sun, October 4, 2009 - 10:23 PM
        O HI ANDORA!
        THAT'S GREAT

        (ch-ch-check it out:):

        "...the more shit i give you, the more people secretly like me..." of course she would sink to defecation fantasies-these voices she means are victims of asuras. 'Only hers' of course. SHE's the only Spokesperson. 'There can be only one'.

        So Luana, what you need do is FOLLOW UP something you missed in prior parasite removal: the trappings of the buggers. The things, the nuances, the idiosyncracies, phrases-clean all this-. . Slight bullying, yknow, the little things, the SUPERIORITY IMPRINT. But (don't forget) straight-up messing with it: pure asuric tendency. Non-healing. Non-example.

        "..Haveing a teacher really speeds up your skills faster..."." 'love' the way you treat other peers, though. O yea, doozy, like watching an old lady shit on God. 'Delicious'. Luana. Glad you made your grade finally

        ONTO OTHER THINGS

        S
        • Re: Twisted Sister Repost

          Sun, October 4, 2009 - 10:30 PM
          Yea, I'm all for Pokes in the Whiskers
          so someone's aLIVE after all
          Gee, maybe we might learn to type-n-shit first?
          Er, type and get the words right first?
          er, pokes in the whiskers, yea. Party to match THIS shit, yea, something like that
          and working THAT too
          • Re: Twisted Sister Repost

            Sun, October 4, 2009 - 11:11 PM
            History channel? No, thank you, I gave cable up too
            White willow, you mean?
            Cacao-I got some-raw, don't know any further prep-
            choco sometimes
            but LOVE ingredient,...
            doing the best I can
            for third eye: breathe there softly
            little blue flame there
            not TOO much
            • Re: Twisted Sister Repost

              Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:10 PM
              thanks scott
              i watch tons of dish on demand when i am in town
              then i process it in the forest. my own special little relationship to the collective....i listen closely to the human collective in the same way i listen closely to the earth. i am learning the patterns as a result....i witness denial in humanity, then i witness the earths response. look at many of the horrendous earth change events happen when huge numbers of people are collecting to pray. Sunday's are particularly catastrophic, Saturday is also a very heated event. my own peculiarities to be sure.

              white widdow is a strain of ganja that is not too strong, and is very light....i smoke happily and legally because i can

              thanks for the little whisper of blue third eye advice. kinda liked that
        • Re: Twisted Sister Repost

          Mon, October 5, 2009 - 12:24 PM
          Scott

          I think you're wasting your time in trying bridge the gap with Luana. She seems very firm in her position on things and that's that.
          • Re: To Karolina

            Mon, October 5, 2009 - 1:18 PM
            If you're there

            I was wondering-Nathan is able to edit/correct a post AFTER he's posted it-about five examples just in a week or two, but I don't see that function everywhere with everyone at ALL. Can you elucidate on that? It would help though there's the catch 'but you just said such and such and now it's gone'

            Of course he's also f***ing around with 'everyone's eyes and brains'

            tribes.tribe.net/lostwillf...2d9b2c535b

            like quoting yet misspelling the actual quote.

            Extra time on his hands with RU' here?

            Again for example, he said to Andora's "I am now the assassin" this: 'You always were' making this the post. Then he changed it at least twice ADDing HIS misspell yet still quoting, to 'assissin'.

            wtf

            ?
            ANyway
            S

            • Re: To Karolina

              Mon, October 5, 2009 - 1:22 PM
              PS-the time of such post-that one post -12:52- remains the same though he edited it afterwards-and he changed its title as well
              S
              • Re: To Karolina PS 2

                Mon, October 5, 2009 - 1:38 PM
                ...And now by 1:50PM or so, he's edited its title and post to no words being there
                so noted (I'm outta there)
                S
                • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                  Tue, October 6, 2009 - 10:32 AM
                  Y'know I wrote up a post (now below) and let it go awhile-this morning; called it 'Good Mrning Viet''. Andora was posting to Nathan at the same time I noticed. Here's Nathan up in the middle of the night here calling me an asshole BUT HERE HE IS talking this by 10AM


                  "Re: agreement
                  Today, 10:16 AM
                  "did you forget that you are talking to me nathan? you even read my proclamation. earth will and is all inclusive to that which lo"

                  I know who I am talking to. You are the one who is confused. You can proclaim your self to be inclusive, but you are not making space for other's evolving perfection, so its just words, and you must not really want the conversation you claim to want. You are a bully and I think Luana is right that you are a liar, and I think the reason you won't 'tell' about your supposed 'dirt'' on her is more because you think it makes you more powerful that way than anything else.

                  I don't like you...

                  And yeah, I've been duped alright. Duped by ungrounded pride that doesn't value Love except in PRINCIPLE, but not where it COUNTS.

                  In her own way, I think Luana is far more honest than you are. "

                  Just Bullshit. You know where he got the introduction on this forum? Normal mind. Mind that may as well have come from his fragmentation for he does not himself act this way. POVs coming together. Dark side.

                  What does he know of Andora's making space?!
                  What does he know of Andora's producing her real intent here or not?!
                  Why is looking only at Andora's dark side (bully) AND expressing so here?!
                  Why is he comparing Andora to Luana if he's so exhausted n shit?!
                  THE GUY HAS BAD INTENT! OUT!

                  OK, might take a while...but it WILL happen.
                  Does it matter WHAT the bad intent is, like powertrip or getting even or some old hatred?

                  Fwiw, the earlier would-be-now-be post:

                  "then be my guest, but count me out." Schizo. Mind.

                  "I am saying get BELOW it. Owning "the assassin"

                  Andora was saying her LOVE is evolving perfection and that she assassinates LUCIFER-like the books mention. "I don't think becomign the assasin is the answer"...Total misunderstanding.

                  I interject b/c I simply do not think it's a bona fide conversation between you two; that there's no real connection; no real substance: two entirely different planes of peers that do not match or connect at ALL here. No common ground! What The Who has called "an eminence front: a put-on." MIND.

                  powerful enough to exhaust one, and warp one? (yep-thus some Paths)

                  "..if you want to continue struggling with duality, attacking/fighting with the symptoms rather than dealing with the causes."

                  'Everyone knows' he just uses phrases and meanings just to sound good. Gung-ho immortalists do not even know how to converse w/o duality. But then, he adds his hopelessness (and exhaustion); "I truly hope I'm wrong and that this place is NOT a real reflection of what will happen in the outer world, cause if it is, I think there's a pretty good chance we're all fucked. i hope I'm wrong." Huh? What WILL happen? (projection, not Here and Now)-and LORD the rage of speaking for other people when completely off. He don't MIND dicking around with rage in strange places-a total underestimation of gapped rage. NOT a good example here at all.

                  "Tired of being criticized by that asshole, Scott..wearing me down, taxing my health, and I'm tired of it not going anywhere.."' Do unto others..What about when I wasn't here? You're state would STILL bring on this. If you'd own yourself and what is offered, I wouldn't exhaust you.

                  .' So why, even HOW, the venom? No RU' there. But more, since I've been going on how it's only that MIND vibrating and in a way that's NOT with WILL here...which is in the proof of atTACK of others-for if doing the work of stopping mind, one'd be so damned serious, people WOULD 'be scared of you, laud you in a right manner: listen to you. Both are cases of offline work! NO PROBLEM.

                  You're just not in your 'right place/time' here-which fantastically stays available should you come to real time/place.. Just do it, though. So you get exhausted not following these natural instructs coached as well by these books. More proof you not doing the work:

                  that is a judgement and a complaint and a challenge to us (FILLER): 'tired of it not going anywhere'. Hell, think of the court case of 9/11.

                  Exhaustion just plays a big role. What has been your comments of healing here?

                  No way Andora could know all this, coming onto the forum here, that you're out of her range-only getting caught in rage and people who use big phrases covering up where they're REALLY at,...thinks she's talking with a PEER. You don't mind the blasphemy (of the books), that is, IF YOU EVEN SEE THAT MUCH-and voila, you WORRY (out loud here) about how it's going to go. No one said you're an expert here (gag). We all have compassion for where you misunderstand the books but YOU have taxed the situation. You wouldn't back off to do your do. (Extremely did not back off).

                  Andora's been warned for that matter to leave you alone. This is a RUoW forum-one REALLY has to DO RUoW (with tons of regards for Newbies and misunderstandings) (you're beyond such-it wasn't long ago you challenged newbies with mind-negativity-which is SO HARD for people to see) THEN we see 'what's up'..... You can't take a 'bust'. MY how you've been busted!

                  Do you CARE what I've been going through, calling me an asshole this stage of the game? LONG ago, 'we' knew heartlessness is your fodder...your wall, your limit, where you're at, your trouble, your block, your challenge. If you'd WALK through that imprint, surely you'd TALK no-heartlessness as much! How CHEAP for RU' yet you complain. Correction, at Seth's forum where Luana was booted twice you weren't as heartless as here and now.

                  Is it so hard to stop your mind? Big talker-of-healing at a ru' forum? Is it so hard to just be with yourself without this forum? Why NOT? If you'd ever answer such with sobriety we'd get to some bottom line alright. It's not MY fear preventing this.

                  Meanwhile on a Faraway Island full of f***ing and double-f***ing dreams there's a woman writing to a 'Nathan' at a certain forum this very hour...So I time-out somewhat and take it in. Yea, she's getting it, sad and burdened this extra talk is a mess per REAL communings here (where I'm not at ALL giving up)...She is continuing to offer her own communions to Commune here, including how hopelessness might affect a woman here. How Luana is miffed from her own Grand Life right in front of her. Andora is seeing your 'fill'...Nathan's odes to the 'godhead' but Nathan is what he (REALLY) is too.

                  The 'real Nathan'. Imagine. If it's not too exhausting.

                  If any can call people an 'asshole' and how they really mean it from a joke, how can we possibly TRUST to take a leave, a breather or a vacation from here without being back-talked with any sort of Lost Will at our backs?!?! SHUT (that) UP Nathan! You put 'your whole self' out here, deal with it! Constrain yourself in places! BALANCE it! 'Balancing Hearts' what?

                  We have to be aware, find awareness of WHAT Lost Will you are responsible for that might attack us in real life! And you sicked some shit here! That's nearly permanent err! What is the ONLY remedy?

                  Here is a hopelessness from you. Now here is an exhaustion from you. Here is an attack on shamanism. Here is a blasphemy of the books. Here is a real curse flying. Here is you being controlled unlovingly. EACH one a different case and that's only a beginning.

                  Where ALL needs to heal...surely we can curb the extremes a bit to help out.

                  I'm aware 'where we triggered', you Luana and I, topped off recently by Andora (who mentioned asking for forgiveness)....in my personal spot. I have 'moved' there as well, before during and since. I needn't tell you this any further-that I've earned already basic trust., How sacred! How UNATTACKABLE...that is, by a REAL RUoW'er...with exception of further women-stuff I suppose. With exception of some detail of where I cannot go any further-the state of society that cannot help but kill it's JFKs and so forth; an Audience to a mangled tortured, chopped, burned, raped, drugged, snake-squeezed body of an Oracle..

                  To help your exhaustion, your complaint, your place with the books, think of me as a Star-faraway; you can have its light anytime you want, you can Commune with it, you can ignore it some but what happens when you give it the finger or complain about it? Does it shrivel like you? Does its light dim and cry? Does it keep shining? Does it allow it to go on, this finger-crap from humanity? Whos to tell besides real RUoW'ers how that hatred is moving or not, what SHOULD move of such or not? How can we POSSibly trust this renewed revised Father?

                  Peace to your unrequited love Andora

                  (Undone, taking a break)
                  S


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                    Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                    Tue, October 6, 2009 - 11:22 AM
                    thank you for witnessing my intent here scott

                    my head is spinning with the audacity of hopelessness that is still attempting to put forward the agenda here while hanging me for its agenda

                    you are right
                    i have not been here long enough to grok all of the divides, and i did not come here to fuel them or take sides! i simply want honesty so we can sort through the quagmire.

                    i feel as though nathan is being honest about his hatred for my position here. he is entitled to such, i will not try to dissuade him, because his hatred of me is not about me...it is simply hatred of the gap and hatred of the mother that wants him to be devoted to blame and shame.

                    calling me a bully for showing up to hold space with a bully is very misdirected and i must oppose the brutality of this

                    mahalo scott
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                    Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                    Tue, October 6, 2009 - 11:24 AM
                    He goes on, won't back off. 'No prob' just a matter of time

                    "..me now having to deal with Scott's boot on my throat keeping me trapped here with his Lies so he can feed off me in a state of denial
                    (and, saying Andora IS ungrounded pride)

                    and you don't care about the experience of what FEEDS it anymore than Scott does! "

                    What FED it, he means IF he means any right thing of it being pride at all. So many implications for such a simple guy-the 'experience' of not just the pride-problem but the FEEDING of it...He's definitely got a case of mind uncontrolled...

                    His desperation mentions yet another over Andora's "Pangasm" work-what a critic not taking criticism himself and that more directly HERE. Just hanging around here for lesser reasons he doesn't really mind not noticing is really the case and if/when so...what it means..
                    • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                      Tue, October 6, 2009 - 11:52 AM
                      More

                      "Re: agreement
                      Today, 11:38 AM
                      Scott seems to be fond of taking my posts and lifting them and quoting them in his thread and cutting them down as a way of keeping his fucking boot on my throat! He's not able to engage me, mono e mono only talk about me like I'm not in the room as his cruel and abusive punishment for being authentic rather than babbling incessently and sprinking in potshots to get a reaction! he can't seem to be a presence here in his own right...only at my expense! You're supporting this and keeping it going and feeding me into lovelessness here by trying to stay on top and staying in your head about your prinicples, like YOU shouldn't have to take someone reflecting your gap to you, oh no..!, you're so "tired of having to be 'better than that'" but you don't know how lost Will is SUFFERING for your bloody principles, you hypocrite! "

                      Heh
                      Ah, so you admit you're my gap, my lucifill? So YOU'RE the one DOING all that 'Lost Will' suffering?
                      If you'd CARE about Spirit talking here which you're blaming of me, how come you're in the way? You by FAR are not with Loving Spirit.

                      No: I'm quite clear of what I am, where I'm standing (not babbling, attacking' etc)-just a matter of READING it right, if one WANTS. If not, back off. Raging much? O, how that SKIPS past things but good! But when it's skipping things all over this forum, you shouldn't be here: save yourself. Or,...just a matter of time
                      • Unsu...
                         

                        Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                        Tue, October 6, 2009 - 12:01 PM
                        Scott,

                        Take your veiled threats and shove them up your ass....

                        YOU"RE the gap, you douche! You don't fucking scare me, so go fuck yourself.

                        Why can't YOU manifest on your own merits? You think you have some shit on me. You don't get me at all. You're just trying to reduce someone to human garbage, you bastard! That's all you know how to do! You're egging me on in a state of denial, by abusig my truth as life-support cause you're not sustaining on your own. Why don't you just fucking ADMIT IT!
                        • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                          Tue, October 6, 2009 - 12:11 PM
                          "Why can't YOU manifest on your own merits?"

                          What are you talking about?

                          "You think you have some shit on me. You don't get me at all."

                          I'm 'getting' what you're giving here. Don't cover it with Real Self-defenses-you miss the moments-

                          "Take your veiled threats"

                          What veiled threats?

                          I'm not ANYthing doting on you, needing you sustaining on you (what a waste)-but you TRYing? This 'effort'? Mind. One function of several others of a human. Controlling you while not even balanced; out of control in fact 'anytime it wants'...'I think' therefore it is 'me' and therefore I 'will' post it on a RU' forum...Not my problem after a point some months ago
                          • Re: The Sun dispersing, unwarping the Dark

                            Tue, October 6, 2009 - 12:19 PM
                            I guess it was the title then-is that better?

                            "Ok Nathan, ill fess up.... I am also Scott...
                            I am soooo glad the cat is out of the bag and i dont have to post from that skitzed out babbeling fool any more.....
                            It was really makeing me nuts to have to write all that stupid incohearant shit that he was posting. "

                            The (Luana) BLOB'll lean on ANYthing
                            needs some rigidity again now; some structure; something hard and dry for wet, over-softivity and hunger
                            to maybe even take in some rare loving moment
                            she "incohearantly" roams around...worse such shit than any man here
                            as is
                          • Unsu...
                             

                            Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                            Tue, October 6, 2009 - 12:25 PM
                            If you don't know what i'm talking about its because you just plain don't want to look.

                            Get me?

                            I don't NEED *YOUR* help to sustain! Do you get that? No!

                            Its the other way around. are you playing dumb, or are you really just that dumb, or are you just in DENiAL trying to shove it down my throat with a ploy of feigned ingorance?

                            shadow boxing with like a card-board cut-out of me you've made up in your own mind and trying your damndest to trap the REal me IN it to pump up your power... instead of OPENING to create Real Heart Presence. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! Its been shown clearly on several occasions! Its UNSUSTAINABLE. What do you give HERE that is originating, that is not just these fucked up ploys like this?

                            NOTHING that anyone can understand except maybe some occassional fluff! You don't want to look? Too bad!

                            *I* am perfectly capable of getting your wavelength. but you blame me for not, when the truth is i just won't open to what you're trying to shove down my throat which is your denied rage, and you can go fuck yourself for that! And you know what threats too. You're just either playing dumb or playing God which you really think you are in some sense cause you're so frigging schitzed out wiht your head on some other planet than your ass! You're NOT God! Get a clue. You're not even ClosE!
                            • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                              Tue, October 6, 2009 - 12:40 PM
                              Get me?

                              No, thanks

                              WOW WHAT A RANT! Too bad there's just no devil left anymore to reward you for it. Hmm, 'wonder what you'll 'get' then?'

                              O, mixed up collison, ouch: "...(heart opening) THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT! Its been shown clearly on several occasions! Its UNSUSTAINABLE..."

                              "What do you give HERE that is originating?..." sheer attack here on your part.

                              More confusion from you (it IS a rant people): "You're just either playing dumb or playing God."

                              "which you really think you are in some sense cause you're so frigging schitzed out wiht your head on some other planet than your ass! You're NOT God! Get a clue. You're not even ClosE!"

                              That's insanity there-totally lost the thread, the forum, the people, the books. And me? mwahhahahaha
                              Up to the people and a matter of time


                              • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                                Tue, October 6, 2009 - 1:17 PM
                                ."What do you give HERE that is originating?..." sheer attack here on your part.

                                Not to mention: blind and heartless (throughout).

                                Where'd everybody go, what-is it naptime for nazis-?

                                grrrnnnhhh
                                • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                                  Tue, October 6, 2009 - 5:53 PM
                                  (OK, my herd of Horsies
                                  you two on the end flanks-tow it in some, you're so wild
                                  either can't find or lost Worm's Ear here somewhere

                                  f'in cruisin nazi essence
                                  Dragons-positioning-rage 'forever', what're you gonna do?
                                  what can you do?

                                  keepin that bad fire going

                                  Right Use of Will 'em?
                                  one's a sitting duck anyway-honk, honk
                                  squat, squat, squawk, squawk
                                  FIRE! FIRE!

                                  RABID fire, sir

                                  Marley's son: "here comes the eagle"

                                  there goes the eagle

                                  but sharing space
                                  you tell me)
                                  • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                                    Tue, October 6, 2009 - 6:00 PM
                                    Scott,
                                    I can't really connect with your posts. I have avoided reading the whole back and forth with Nathan, amongst other dialogues with you, like yours with Andora - because....it feels like work, like I need to scrunch up my brain, squint with it. On some level I figure what you are saying could be said more bluntly, but in a way that ain't my business.
                                    W
                                    • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                                      Tue, October 6, 2009 - 7:29 PM
                                      Yes, OK, Worm

                                      it's work alright. Take it easy-I have the ability to talk easier-I'm sure you've noticed that as well.
                                      On the other hand, all of this has a bit of reality-especially when I'm 'hard to read'. I mean, how do I know how close a friend/peer is here to me?
                                      Thirdly, you've mentioned this before. It is noted. I am concerned.

                                      So having difficulty reading my posts is not the same as what's going down..

                                      Interesting that Andora brought up a meditation very similar to ones I've been taught; about what is one's essence going back to them and what is yours going to you.
                                      We haven't traded notes on it yet;. This mish-mash here of 'understandings between (just me and Nathan right now) begs for some help. But do I have a clue that Nathan does ANY healing meditations and/or movements (yet)? No rush, but see, that it has not been eviudent in correspondence to 'what's going down'. The /dragon' his head...all this is definitely out aHead...
                                      Alright, maybe you, others don't see a problem here. DO you? Then whether I'm blunt or whether it's 'none of your business'-as you say-would shift.

                                      If rage must be on top....why is he so triggered and uncomfortable and unbalanced? I'm only doing one job of many, of cleaning here, then trimming there ruow information-is it that you or another might stick up for his PERSON? Feel sorry for him? Well then prevent him from sticking his abusive mind out there and where it doesn't seem to belong. Where is that any good? Why wouldn't it be the time or place to handle it?

                                      A whole year, Worm and I've only been present for nine months of it. No change, no movement and certainly no honoring (apologies or effective healings witnessed from him about it. Please.

                                      Will something work out? Not with unbalanced rage flying at others...a catch-22 of sorts. So~

                                      later
                                      S
                                      • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                                        Tue, October 6, 2009 - 7:55 PM
                                        That I could generally understand.

                                        I don't know who is doing what between you two. So I can say. I reacted to Nathan in the other thread the way I did because he seemed hopeless. Right or wrong he felt abused and that this was ongoing and he had no control over it somehow. I felt bad about that.

                                        I won't be going through the posts between you two to figure out if you are being a fascist or if he has brought on whatever is making you angry at him or blaming. I just won't.

                                        I have caught a couple of posts from Nathan to you and I got the feeling there was flexibility, respect and even an apology, hopeless as it was. I have no way of judging if this was 'enough' whatever that means. And as I said, I really don't know what you are doing so I can't get a handle on the context.

                                        One reason I generally don't respond to you is I would repeat myself. I would keep bringing up the communication issue. It seems you write the way you want to write. I gave my reactions, you continued. I felt no urge to go and try to make you change, so there it lay.

                                        If it has been an ongoing war on your part all this time, it might be time to give it a rest. I have disagreed with Nathan and gotten pissed off, but I feel like he moves and tries not to simply pick a team and run with them.

                                        I mean, a fixed position for months can't feel good. This doesn't mean forget or even forgive. But just move out of isometrics.

                                        Of course, maybe you have. I don't know.

                                        But if you want a role model for a death grip, I will never stop until you buckle under and see things my way, die or leave, you know who you are admiring by default, don't you?
                                        • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                                          Tue, October 6, 2009 - 8:40 PM
                                          Hmm-at the wonder if you'll even read this, Worm
                                          first that last part:

                                          "But if you want a role model for a death grip, I will never stop until you buckle under and see things my way, die or leave, you know who you are admiring by default, don't you?".

                                          There seems a mix of who is talking and I don't know what-or who there- you're talking about. You mean Nathan being dangerous? I'd love to stop that and provide assistance with balance from there.

                                          Nathan lashed out at me, is the first case and he kept on lashing. He went past quite a few issues at the same time. This is 'the war'' and he's (responsible for) supplying it, not me. He has a 'thing' about lashing. I do not.

                                          I can say that 'what you got' from Nathan is 'repeat'' stuff to me-what he's said, however 'warm' it seems. It's my risk losing friends' understandings, yes.
                                          If I gave the impression I'm 'picking a team' I'm not-though I DID say to leave him alone (to straighten this out). Now you are suggesting something like that with myself.. That's normal under the circ's I guess.

                                          Isometrics, fixed-exactly. Whatever I move there, see that it meets Nathan's scathing (immaturely-speaking) rage anyway. The ideal has been mentioned: to let even all that go right through me. A process-level I'm adjusting with. I struggle with the 'principles' involved at the same time (however). Maybe a going-over these principles would help but it's a chore (for me right now)-

                                          I'm positive others would feel, notice 'gap' from his level of intimidation; they have prior to your arrival alright and prior to my being more active. It was ...terrible.... What backing does he have or offer for it besides 'losing it on others'?


                                          • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                                            Tue, October 6, 2009 - 8:42 PM
                                            TWIMC
                                            And so, has been going without saying that I'd talk funnier the more I'm intimidated...(But don't be ridiculous sicking the gap around)
                                            • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                                              Tue, October 6, 2009 - 8:46 PM
                                              Yea, it comes to me more what you're meaning there Worm with "But if you want a role model for a death grip....No, no, no, it's nothing to do with having things my way. It's an even process would they get through it. Yes, that's a fine to say what gapped rage is meanwhile.
                                              • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                                                Tue, October 6, 2009 - 8:59 PM
                                                Does this go back to you getting kicked out by Nathan?

                                                One thing I wonder about given the way you communicate is if a certain event happens, even for you.

                                                Complicated, artful metaphorical speech can be like gauze or fog.

                                                I remember getting kicked out by a friend - and it seems like you at least met in physical person - from something. I was angry. I thought of what he did wrong. I felt hurt. Took me a long time to realize I felt shame - I was a kid.

                                                This is where bluntness seems critical to me. Not blunt like
                                                I hate you,
                                                though that too if it fits and it probably does,
                                                but bluntness about how it felt.

                                                I'd worry those feelings would seep into everything as a clammy anger if not bluntly put.

                                                Not that this will get apologies, not even for that.

                                                I mean maybe you did this or did it in a PM - which I would recommend given the state of things here. And I know it is nosy and late and all.
                                                But I just got this very strong feeling that bluntness is a necessity for some things.
                                                W
                                                • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                                                  Tue, October 6, 2009 - 9:00 PM
                                                  rather than what he did wrong, what it means, what it is like, what it does and all that.

                                                  rather than focus outward.

                                                  Friend kicks me out of something important.

                                                  And what feelings come after.....
                                                  • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                                                    Tue, October 6, 2009 - 9:30 PM
                                                    O yes, that particular event? Most enraging just like you said-not so much the event itself but the feeling afterward, ensuing. To LOOK at what he'd done...I might as well have looked right at gapped rage, the stuff angels were made of. ('k?)

                                                    So thanks for addressing this 'one more time'.

                                                    Right 'artful'-like speech etc...I was never meant for such intense times of communication-working on it..

                                                    No more explanations for such events-was I blunt in return, was I immed. saying it was 'wrong'. That one event I didn't say anything. I went to another thread in a new Tribe Daisy'd just opened up and 'had fun' expressing myself 'no holds barred' about Nathan. This Tribe was still public however so I still had to hold back. We had the TOU 'girl' on the line then and I'd call Nathan DOH boy, stuff like that.

                                                    See, where it's 'critical' nothing I say is going to matter out here. That's part of rage-entrapment here people mean. So I'd given the clues farther back when I came on, with introductions, what I was up to. I gave some lowdown on the shamanic stuff. The info 'was right there'. So he didn't pick up much on that and only a little about Desteni. The rest of 'critical' is built-in to our Path here.

                                                    Yes, we tried PMing.

                                                    In person with you, I'd profusely apologize for the fogginess, for stalling quicker understandings passing here! It runs back to my situation, you see; it ain't that 'hot' (but it's what/all I got)

                                                    Focusing outward or not. (you're right) There's a big mess whether I imagine it or apply my own faults. Now we have the 'not-listening' factor come in to BASIC problems here he seems to be abusing. So I 'talk back' there and then. But no, I'm no computer for that. I said before I was satisfied.

                                                    So, 'nosy'
                                                    be or feel 'released' for this session (?)
                                                    hopefully we'll feel and be a LOT better soon
                                                    S
                                                    • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                                                      Tue, October 6, 2009 - 9:47 PM
                                                      "Right 'artful'-like speech etc...I was never meant for such intense times of communication-working on it.. "
                                                      This could have added heavily to the gap.
                                                      And may be much more important than it seems. IOW it could have set it up so you both feel much less received.
                                                      • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                                                        Tue, October 6, 2009 - 10:09 PM
                                                        "This could have added heavily to the gap. " The going past my comfort zone. That's the spot where I say I took the risk. There was not much choice on the one hand; the other it was very heated, yes. I replied with (about) both and inbetween with 'all I had'. I even said here I was ready as much as I could be. And there it pretty much stayed. Why? How? All 'we' could do was iron it out along the way. Do I mean 'gap' here? No, but intense layers, yes. Astrology, judgements held within that aren't accessed yet,, you name it.

                                                        So this was while Luana had not shown up here yet, btw. She quickly plastered a death-wish of some sort on me instead of some warmer catchings-up. Now, I had MORE such decisions..(.comfort zones). I don't have some grand hx of having them. But I WAS fresh out of shaman-training. So...that was 'the game' then.

                                                        Today I've been adding more of the dragon part of it: why it's so hopeless and I don't see how I would remain 'here'. I CAN let it go and in the godly way, yes, and I've been scoping for this, for the openings to 'escape'. Experience-which is key here (how am I experiencing all this)-tells me to the effect, 'something will happen in my regular life to offset this intensity here and if it doesn't then I'm meant to (try and) follow through.

                                                        So we come now to levels not gone into yet i ANY healings in the past (like a compromise would suffice). If I dare say- but it doesn't mean at all that the other party is also ready for it. Would he stand off a bit? (Seemingly not).
                      • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                        Tue, October 6, 2009 - 12:01 PM
                        God Nathan,
                        why do you even care what Scott says? ....
                        his writting is so unreadable ....
                        nobody knows he is insulting you any ways

                        Im surprised that YOU can even tell weather he is insulting you or not.... I cant
                        • Re: Dark side controlling Nathan cont

                          Tue, October 6, 2009 - 7:18 PM
                          Luana darling

                          " Oh sister where art thou " ?
                          • Re: Twisted sister report

                            Wed, October 7, 2009 - 7:53 AM
                            Hey

                            I have an idea? Whenever Luana just comes out of blue with generlizations, negitive comments and not constuctive feedback. It is my recommendation to ignore her.

                            Robert- W.L.
                            • Re: Twisted sister report

                              Wed, October 7, 2009 - 2:40 PM
                              Grow a sence of humor, wl
                              • Re: Twisted sister report

                                Sat, October 10, 2009 - 2:57 AM
                                'Nature moving first into Non-Time', wow, Auxdieux, that's an awesome input

                                tribes.tribe.net/lostwillf...06ac7d474a

                                Andora: great symbol for your Profile.

                                I was 'out' letting some gap catch up as usual,...I 'don't get' the resistance in places. I come upon a few healers I 'can't read' b/c the [posts are VERY long-so I just come back later when I'm more ready. There's nothing to say to the Writer of them-like: "it's those little quote marks you use" or something..Sometimes I may not come back at all.

                                The posts aren't too long here for myself meanwhile. But I notice this goes back for me, with ALL criticism. It's looking for, and being at, the RIGHT podium. When I'm There, there's No Excuse (hearing 'criticism'); it is Resistance in general; imprinting of 'not liking something', hopefully not someONE...Then if and when it IS such resistance-ain't that a bitch everytime. It rarely ever pans out except in Time.

                                So all this, is past getting basics straight which has been the 'problem' so far around here. After the basics, it's trust.

                                Where has been the positive to the criticism-is one proof of what I mean. Do I myself get to it offline every time IF there's none from the other party? Most often, yes. That's carrying the healing alone. Does it make me perfect with language or pleasing everyone or timing or being 'easy to read'? Not yet. Be it a lack here or a heart only so big there, what can I say?

                                Maybe we should focus in on Time. I've always been interested. There's forward and backwards in time, and there's something 'lateral' as well. I first would look at Fourth Dimensional time as matching that of space evolving from three Dimensions...That if we did optimal health practices, our bodies could be in 4th Dimension, as was much Talk in places in the New Age.

                                Instead I got 'God's Gap'-this Path- and THEN see what would workout.
                                Space: three dimensions. Time: one dimension. Something's very OFF here.
                                Heart for balancing this too: yes.
                                Many hearts get ripped out, much Soul there has been lost.
                                The whole Earth was going to die; in comparison now she's surging well into Blissful areas or something like that.

                                So it's still confusing; the point is, it can be done with communings and peoples working on it together in awareness (homework). One answer meanwhile is sufficient: keep breathing. It's all there. Breathing can cross the gulf between regular peoples here and 'outlandish' healers and their talk.

                                Enough said.
                                Good luck
                                'out
                                S
                                • Re: Time-moves

                                  Sat, October 10, 2009 - 3:09 AM
                                  So for me, the gap is still harrowing and ls laced with 'someone trying to kill me'
                                  I doubt this WHOLE society often, or more often these days.
                                  As I move in and out here, up and down, I certainly 'see' that resistance I'm talking about-sometimes it's immaturity and complaint.
                                  Needs forgiveness and the whole list of ingredients of Life.
                                  Back to trusting God

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                                    Time-moves not really

                                    Sun, October 11, 2009 - 12:48 AM
                                    "Maybe we should focus in on Time. I've always been interested. There's forward and backwards in time, and there's something 'lateral' as well. I first would look at Fourth Dimensional time as matching that of space evolving from three Dimensions...That if we did optimal health practices, our bodies could be in 4th Dimension, as was much Talk in places in the New Age"

                                    scott,

                                    my understanding is that TIME was created as the result of the almost total supression of the Will,
                                    slowing everything down but,
                                    allowing just enough Will presence to keep the imprints going,
                                    but not enough to allow the Will to move out of its prision,
                                    and of course this process can only create death,
                                    the ultimate slowing down process,
                                    it is really very sceintifically calculated,
                                    by those that control,
                                    so of course you have all reason to be paranoid.
                                    auX
                                    • Re: Time-moves not really

                                      Sun, October 11, 2009 - 2:04 AM
                                      wow auX

                                      that little blurb about time is excellent! i really resonated with that pov

                                      for the same amount of time i have been studying ruow, i have been living in panart time = mayan calendar

                                      this form of relating to time is much more 4th dimensional and dynamic than Pope Gregor's little trick

                                      as predicted by the mayan astronomy, i'm looking forward to looking into the heart of the Milky Way, down the "dark path" between the photon belts in 2012. Here in the constellation of Norlatiadek. the maya say that the Star-Gate event is characterized by the dark path event....looking between the light bands we see the dark path that winds into the heart of the galaxy to reveal a cluster of stars that resemble a Christmas Tree. to me this is a reminder that my own tree of life starts at the pineal and goes down both sides of my body to my root....the neuro-hormonal biochemical tree of life - my salvation
                                      • Re: Flowing Time

                                        Sun, October 11, 2009 - 12:24 PM
                                        Thank you Andora
                                        right-on

                                        And once again, YOU AuX-quite awesome

                                        So this part I wanted to elucidate on

                                        "it is really very scientifically calculated,
                                        by those that control,
                                        so of course you have all reason to be paranoid. "

                                        That's the thing, those causal Reptiles are changed, taken care of, moved on, Forgiving is at hand.

                                        I'm still dealing with asuric effect, like a habit with Body...which is exACTly as the 'gap moving more and more into the home'. The powerful asuric Archetype of blame and war and tricks. Godchannel said Satan made the first deal with them and Satan could rule over Lucifer. One source goes so far as to say even Satan is now healed into something else; playful with Children even. Ah but, is this all 'Celestial', to yet worry about Earth planes? Indeed: watch the complacency.

                                        Time-wise, these things happened LONG AGO.
                                        We keep matching real selves to expanding out time with Will; heart present.

                                        Real self has to come through from Archetypes that Spirit originally sent outward-or is responsible for. 'I sent out judgement that I was perfect'." NO NO NO!!! I WAS WRONG! I have moved on (releasing the judgement in Mother as well. Mother voiced outloud and in her Feminine process: no more such judgements). I was covering up. I didn't KNOW HER. I couldn't FEEL. But I could've felt; it was possible as some Frag' points out. Things of Me remained alive w/o my awareness-but WITH awareness due to position to Mother...

                                        So one needs to know Archetype from their own self, by ego and what is you from rage sometimes.

                                        Effects (of Archetypes) can be dealt with by Ceremony: cleansing ones. Getting to YOU, with forgiveness simply present...dropping away all these FALSE things. REAL spirit be there. REAL Mother even if a Celestial one like great White Mother Bear (whose process is about Osmosis-just Visit her lair and 'give in'. The Wolves will help..) REAL heart and Body.

                                        I can speak for I just was at a Sweat Lodge! (Cheers, applause).

                                        I feel ligjhter, more present, more able to feel sunshine itself even if behind a window,...O the cold and dark...

                                        Ceremonies and then...flowing upon such is up to us. A-NOTHER Ceremony and then another, uintil you are communing with one spirit or another-White Mother Bear. Black Mother of Forgiveness of the West, you name it. Until you come-to.

                                        What is Time Unwound? 'Non-time' perhaps. Follow Nature going here/then, indeed.

                                        However, if 'bad eggs' still have power over us, paranoia is the way...Live in fear. Grow from a small place.
                                        I've run away from my heavy-weights beFORE...

                                        thanks

                                        Must move on, confusion is creeping back
                                        :)
                                        S

                                        • Re: Flowing Time PS

                                          Sun, October 11, 2009 - 12:37 PM
                                          ..I was covering up my inadequacies with the Will, my Mother. I didn't know Her. I didn't know how to ACT. This created shame and I covered that up-deNIED it. Voila: Satan.
                                          Now we undo all that...What a sham. It's all been BULLshit, with one thing real: being with, feeling (the) Mother...Take it from there.
                                          S
                                          • Re: Flowing Time PS

                                            Sun, October 11, 2009 - 10:45 PM
                                            thanks scott for noticing the picture....it's a painting i did for my book....only thing is, i took all the pictures out because peops were confused with TOO much information. my biggest challenge was to simplify....still is

                                            mahalo for your aloha scott
                                            • Re: Flowing Time PS

                                              Sun, October 11, 2009 - 11:53 PM
                                              "thanks scott "

                                              Well, OK-(but the only way I'm going to understand your 'mahalo for your'..is if we sit down to have it explained with heart present-and Joe ftm, can teach me key parts of Hebrew (? :)). I Know it in Essence, yes, Andora. 'Sorry' I don't know these meanings in full yet.

                                              Here's something (for you) from a friend of a friend of one of our friends around here. From israel
                                              has a little 'bluuuuuuuue' in it
                                              This one sound is excellent to sing back and forth with another facing each other, with Earth in awareness.

                                              (Any takers: I can sing too, or alone, it'll come along)

                                              S
                                              • Re: Flowing Time PS

                                                Mon, October 12, 2009 - 12:01 AM
                                                www.youtube.com/watch

                                                Here's the link to that song-video

                                                My own Symbol would be

                                                3 Circles on top of one another
                                                growing larger to the bottom; spaced
                                                With a 'snake' down the middle

                                                There're certain Numbers attached so i don't give it all away here prematurely
                                                S
                                                • Re: Flowing Time PS

                                                  Mon, October 12, 2009 - 11:14 AM
                                                  i was triggered by all the noise in that video as she was singing like a canary. her voice is spectacular...did you post that video scott?

                                                  anyway...about the symbol....

                                                  one snake is a bad problem to be sure

                                                  Asclepious - the Greek father of medicine - had a staff with two snakes spiraling up to the orb at the top - this staff was famous and was referred to by Asclepious as Cadeuceus. this symbol was co-opted by Hyppocrates - the originator of the Hyppocratic Oath taken by doctors. Only problem with this is that it was changed in a way that would confound the students of true metaphysics!

                                                  In electromagnetism the two snakes have a very specific role. one snake is ungrounded, while the two snakes creates a synchronistic magnetic field that will create an electric charge by the motion of the 2 snakes. This is why i keep going back to ORIGINAL ORIGINAL CAUSE IN OUR CONVERSATIONS

                                                  because the two snakes represent the Mother and Daughter, when the daughter took the electric charge up and out of the vortex to create an alternate reality with the electric charge, fragmentation is what became the norm of the alternate reality we were born into....hence, the one snake as a symbol for mortality

                                                  thanks for the conversation scott - i hope you don't take this story as me talking down to you, but i have much to say about metaphysical alchemy....it is my life study
                                                  • Re: Flowing Time PS

                                                    Mon, October 12, 2009 - 12:33 PM
                                                    OMG ! Andora, you are so full of beans and halfed baked in your so called "knowledge," of medaphysics that anyone who had a real understanding in these areas would be ROTFLTAO at your theories....If you want a better understanding of symbology please read ALL of Carl Jung's books and than go to xeeatwelve and let Amitikh screw your head on with the rest of the story.

                                                    Right now you are so full of ancient one propoganda in these areas that it is actually laughable.

                                                    meanwhile

                                                    keep guessing if it makes you feel, "knowledgable."
                                                  • Re: Flowing Time PS

                                                    Mon, October 12, 2009 - 12:43 PM
                                                    Yes, Well~Hi
                                                    Andora
                                                    Yes it's good finding what we can of real-self between the lines, between each other

                                                    I hadn't meant SNAKE-snake...It's a little new to me so I'm bearing it as far back (into OOC) as I can-so 'no judgements' etc. To let Will carry the Symbol to it's full meanings and life-indications in me now. There's no big 'light' going on about it right now, just glimmers. The gap has it's 'more important' stuff in our faces often; 'priorities' with my Attentions. (warps)...

                                                    That's why I'm always repeating how much I like to be with my Mate 'just sitting there' in heart presence. :)

                                                    I'm glad I 'got out of'' metaphysics-searchings...reaching some peak, and this is ready as with rather anyone here to shoehorn each other into any helpful info.. New-old info still comes like if you burn mint leaves in a Sweat Lodge, it kills. There were recently some Sweat-BOX (not a real 'Lodge) deaths around here, see...Mint leaves wasn't the cause. Ya just need to know what you are doing moreso. We communed or prayed about it. Listened, sweated etc.

                                                    My impression from these books was to move comfortably aWAY from mental studies...not even present them so much. Would one's informations ever really leave if one let them be? No, for that is Knowledge, not Awareness and awareness is the priority. Or otherwise balancing them. Gotta be careful here too, yes-spreading knowledge? For sure, many of us back you up in effective sharings!

                                                    The shaman-training imparted informations-absolutely~ but the guy could back them up with relish, with movement, with experience. Rare is a Santa Clause who actually does what the real Santa had done on into the past: take the people's worst (chosen) baggages in his 'sack', fly (by KNOWING/going through his own death-place(s))-as with Spirit TO the right place to cleanse them-say, Polaris or the Sun-, THEN visit also spiritually all those people's particular Stars...(we all have one), communing in order to bring a FRESH GIFT back...adorned with perhaps, a Symbol...of Real Self...Think about it-get in touch with him for Christmas perhaps.

                                                    Desteni' claims there's no Soul; it was a ruse, a computer-like function...But if we NEED Soul to get to and/or maintain real self...(hmm?) Those people are quite a 'test' to me-fortunately no pain thereof-about a few things like this. Soul is like proof and a bridge between WILL movement and our selves...Does the human race even have clarity about what Soul is or isn't across the board? So, I prefer to rely on older information; experience-a sturdiness-...and their fruits. It is a unique Pleasure to experience Earth soul, Underworld soul, Celestial soul, where 'I am with that' now...Too bad: we just do not have enough people-experience going to the Godhead and back to bear this out!!!

                                                    Anyway (so much more)

                                                    thanks
                                                    S




                                                    • Re: Flowing Time PS

                                                      Mon, October 12, 2009 - 12:46 PM
                                                      PS-The video was posted by the person (JR) whose Page it's linked to
                                                      maybe this person/name is familiar around here?
                                                      :)
                                                      • Re: Flowing Time PS

                                                        Mon, October 12, 2009 - 1:07 PM
                                                        i didn't understand what you were saying scott
                                                        sorry
                                                        • Luana

                                                          Mon, October 12, 2009 - 1:11 PM
                                                          of course you get your information from the dead

                                                          so what if i equate the electromagnetic conundrum that you, and those who run upon the hamster tread mill of the Battle of the Sexes, suffer from!

                                                          the one thing that i did understand about scott's post above is that applying KNOWLEDGE TO LIFE, IN A WAY THAT CREATES BALANCE, is wisdom

                                                          bullying is not wisdom
                                                          • Re: Luana

                                                            Mon, October 12, 2009 - 1:13 PM
                                                            correction:

                                                            so what if i equate the electromagnetic conundrum that you, and those who run upon the hamster tread mill of the Battle of the Sexes, suffer from to the MOTHER/DAUGHTER WAR as described in Original Original Cause!

                                                            this is my prerogative and takes nothing away from your large bank of KNOWLEDGE that does little to help you create balance in your own life....so hurl insults at the mirror - this would be a more accurate use of your unadulterated rage!
                                                        • Re: Flowing Time PS

                                                          Mon, October 12, 2009 - 1:16 PM
                                                          "..i didn't understand what you were saying scott .."

                                                          And?...

                                                          So?....

                                                          Said like that is a cop-out; people's deaths were mentioned, etc etc-important risky info! Use your 'wisdom'! Are you into Communing here or not?

                                                          Until then or if so

                                                          soon/later
                                                          S
                                                          • Re: Flowing Time PS

                                                            Mon, October 12, 2009 - 1:29 PM
                                                            So let's do a Jig here

                                                            "..i didn't understand what you were saying scott .."

                                                            So how are you going to back up your using YOUR information in MY thread then?
                                                            Albeit we 're grateful for your feminine presence

                                                            I'm talking 'war of information' due to it's 'levels' spoken around here, recently, the stuff God dallied with, with the Angels...AWful stuff, A';
                                                            saying again please take care

                                                            S
                                                          • Re: Flowing Time PS

                                                            Mon, October 12, 2009 - 1:30 PM
                                                            talk straight here scott

                                                            now you wish to make me responsible for someones death?

                                                            go ahead and project here, luana and nathan are having a grand ole time with this!
                                                            • Re: Flowing Time PS

                                                              Mon, October 12, 2009 - 1:46 PM
                                                              "talk straight here scott "

                                                              You're my guest here: you first

                                                              "..for someones death? "

                                                              where do you get that? Not a MODICUM of honor here? By the same token aren't you 'bringing trigger' here from elsewheres and another or two?

                                                              Nathan dark some more, yes, I've just heard (from you here).
                                                              I'm feeling that alright (too).

                                                              SO sorry...

                                                              But all-told, 'ain't lookin too cool here for now to me
                                                              later
                                                              S
                                                              • Re: Flowing Time PS

                                                                Mon, October 12, 2009 - 2:30 PM
                                                                Fwiw,

                                                                As a public tribe, I haven't always got it right and mixed speaking publically with speaking to a person who last addressed me. Here's an example

                                                                "..Gotta be careful here too, yes-spreading knowledge? For sure, many of us back you up in effective sharings! "

                                                                That's a matter of using the right pronouns at the right time: I could've indented/spaced a new paragraph for such change to 'you'.. I don't mean to be confusing; it's not so easy doing this here which I'm regularly deciding about.

                                                                Now, insinuations are yet a further matter. Absolutely I could be implying the person when also speaking publically. I don't support this and don't try to do this much; the exception being coming on to ask the person something or otherwise discuss; being open with the topic(s) at hand..
                                                                Speaking/typing publically of course has it's various charges; fears namely, or rue-ing such darkness from without.

                                                                I intend to get all this right-I've been hampered!

                                                                Well, good luck with all that, you guys!!!

                                                                All a matter of health too!

                                                                'sorry'
                                                                Thanks
                                                                S
                                                                • Re: On Threading

                                                                  Wed, October 14, 2009 - 12:00 PM
                                                                  What did you do here, Andora?

                                                                  'Nathan'-thread

                                                                  tribes.tribe.net/lostwillf...e8f3b995f7

                                                                  Some others had added stuff and you didn't ask and/or warn us/them you were 're-doing' it

                                                                  You want a thread on that issue free and clear FINE-pls say so

                                                                  S
                                                                  • Scott

                                                                    Wed, October 14, 2009 - 7:04 PM
                                                                    no darl'in
                                                                    i don't want a thread on that (refering to your link)
                                                                    not my agenda
                                                                    just need to set some boundaries in the friendliest way i can
                                                                    cus i love him
                                                                    but, not liking what this feels like
                                                                    today
                                                                    if i don't wish to receive
                                                                    i do not
                                                                    i know how to filter in ways i do not have to take responsibility for others
                                                                    it's part of the mother thing
                                                                    i'm not out to wound or hurt
                                                                    just want to remain present w/o getting projected upon
                                                                    sorry if i am confusing you scott
                                                                    i put up what i want and delete what i wish, when it comes to my threads,
                                                                    who i share with etc....
                                                                    we have choices we didn't in the past bc we are in virtual
                                                                    i have a problem with kicking other's out
                                                                    and having a moderator make unilateral decisions about whether to delete the work of others.
                                                                    as far as my own thread?
                                                                    yeah
                                                                    i take liberties
                                                                    PERSONAL SOVERIEGNTY is our birthright...my thread is my space here, which is why i get the right to delete, as well as u
                                                                    forgive me, but
                                                                    you seem focused upon building a case - i could be projecting here, but i am not here to keep tabs on others
                                                                    even so, i will not allow other's to exploit my presence, either
                                                                    peace
                                                                    • Re: Scott

                                                                      Wed, October 14, 2009 - 8:19 PM
                                                                      I see what you're getting at (Andora) so it's not a leap to continue saying what I mean:

                                                                      What about others sharing in your thread with THEIR "PERSONAL SOVERIEGNTY"-is what I'm saying-
                                                                      They may be unaware of the level you mean

                                                                      This part: what is the reason you bring this up-do you have a case?:: "and having a moderator make unilateral decisions about whether to delete the work of others.as far as my own thread? I HOPE that's not going to happen.

                                                                      This one, "you seem focused upon building a case - i could be projecting here, but i am not here to keep tabs on others
                                                                      even so, i will not allow other's to exploit my presence, either "

                                                                      Yes, it must be projection as I don't know what you mean. No one wants exploitation and I have no 'case' here. Godchannel would bring up guidelines of how to use forums with ruow somehow...and sending heated blame was one area raised. Luana and Nathan were present for that, then. THAT kind of 'case' came alive here, yea. As far as suspect nonsense, whether you love the guy or not...pssht . It's why YOU made the thread, aight?

                                                                      So,...sovreignty or not, it needs more time for people to do exACT right things with threads. Luana only learned HOW to make one so recently (if she's here anymore). We also need practice if not trust-like with permissions-and these you washed away, see. The feeling of the former thread...gone. The content...gone. The wanting to participate with you in such posts: gone.

                                                                      Meanwhile, you want to 'make your way' to delete, 'be free', you've said. That's considered too.

                                                                      Thanks
                                                                      S


                                                                      • Re: Scott

                                                                        Wed, October 14, 2009 - 9:57 PM
                                                                        i'm doing my best with sharing as well as caring

                                                                        it's strange that you bring up ruow rules from god channel, there is so much feigning about an entirely different forum being used as an example of how this forum should run.
                                                                        I think the parameters that nathan put up on the intro to this forum was pretty straight forward
                                                                        the people who keep bringing it up are not actually following these rules!

                                                                        why throw all these distractions into simple conversations?

                                                                        for your information scott....when i post anything here it is at my pleasure....if i delete a post i started, this is my prerogative
                                                                        my Will informs me and i rarely follow the edicts of others unless we are working together for a common aim = work well with consensus. in regard to communicating here with you and others, my writing and the responses to this are still my prerogative.

                                                                        as you know, you take great lengths in keeping much of what happens in other peoples posts recorded upon your threads....you are focused in that way and i am not. i see no blame or shame in this difference between us
                                                                        and i owe no one any thing.

                                                                        i will close by saying that the rain is falling in the desert here and the smell is comforting, the sound is soothing
                                                                        good night
                                                                        • Re: Fine-line Andora

                                                                          Wed, October 14, 2009 - 10:28 PM
                                                                          "..my writing and the responses to this are still my prerogative."

                                                                          That's still way too hairy for me. In a loose world: perfect. I'm not that way and am not going that way. You talk sharing despite some differences, but I doubt you get the point, the reason. Those responses are not yours; they may even indicate one of God's new Creeds working (or not). It's a simple, normal request to warn us, ask us. For a reason.

                                                                          Sigh, I wish 'I could talk' it out...it's so ephemeral: not just Diplomacy...but between where you're at and using a forum's potential maximumly. There's something too obvious in what you did-wiping out people's input, efforts..Not enough for me to go on, to say the exact words, but this warning is out...I think some of it's in the fact that exposing what Nathan was doing behind the scenes was IMPORTANT. It's OK that you manipulated it a bit but the momentum is cut.

                                                                          Why do I don't mind at all you did this with Luana? On the other hand, I FEEL still 'cut' both in removal of a few posts of mine contrasted by you NOT removing insinuations of me with your 'psycho' stories.

                                                                          I'm not comparing the two forums, and I'm not talking 'rules'.
                                                                          If you could converse instead of all this cutting, you'd see that this is no 'distraction'.
                                                                          If it was your 'Will causing you to delete' then it's not WILL when it involves other peoples 'wills'...Nothing overt that I see.

                                                                          Look, I don't know why you're one such person more at home and quite another at this forum. You've mentioned you are not like me here..Trust me, I'm just doing normal stuff, nothing of 'great length' or being out of my way. Some dedications that aren't too difficult. A severe fight, yeowch to all, hmm? Like the 'fuck you Scott!' is hard to cleanse of me from you...When I'm cleansed, yea, remove 'all that from a record, sure.

                                                                          Sweet dreams
                                                                          Let's hope Dreaming the world to a better place works:

                                                                          www.youtube.com/watch

                                                                          (proof RFID chip is happening)

                                                                          S
                                                                          • Re: Fine-line Andora

                                                                            Thu, October 15, 2009 - 12:10 PM
                                                                            Rules were made to be broken.:-)
                                                                            • Re: Worm and Nathan were saying....

                                                                              Fri, October 16, 2009 - 9:29 AM
                                                                              O hey, I came on strong about Nathan's shit but I remind it's not all there is to the person. There's much more of the person speaking with computer AS WELL as this particular forum to be ironed out.

                                                                              Plus Andora came on when I was so BUSY talking about Nathan's shit-shit that needn't be at this forum; is not right for this forum. And Andora reads it as me being overly 'right and wrong'. Impressions. To me, Nathan is very immature RUoW-wise while at the same time he's taken this to EXTREME here at this forum. O come on, this HAD to be checked and now and since, it's to be followed through as well. I will tolerate what I have to but I will keep at this: not for a 'point' but for the living truth of where I'm coming from (not to be buried).

                                                                              Here's Nathan "...by contrast, I felt totally unsupported and still do by the way she has seemed to polarize to Scott and its not easy for me to take it with him being active here and holding such a strong energy feild of vehement denial and hatred towards me.... he even admitted in one of his posts that he feels we can't coexist here.... and Andora starts carrying on conversations with him. ..."

                                                                              Adolescence just needs to know its place. Andora and I had a connection in our background, in our experience of healing. That's a WONderful thing, a celebratory thing and one that's a boon to this forum. It's NOTHING ELSE. Yes, I see it's odd, her new-agey-ness and something further in her posts that's off; But if I don't KNOW IT to a 'T' then how can I say anything? As far as she and Luana, it's SAD and even serious but if I'm not so 'in' with them, I'd rather not chat about how they handle it here or not.

                                                                              Nathan says again he's trying to vibrate heart or come from there. No, it's adolescence and mental-heart and a leeching eventually-a soap opera of sorts to post here addictively and worse. Something not deep or thorough enough. It 'doesn't matter' what happens to him here (we've all said plenty about it). He's not being a real Mover. That's 'where he's at'-a stage of just leeching from the books info.

                                                                              Like I'm saying, what of the person that's HERE is not fully the person. For Nathan, it'll be awhile to bridge that gap. All of which needs more coming from HIS SELF. Not a 'lost passion' and other inaccuracies. So, what is interpreted...as my 'denial and hatred' for him is off in the first place of HIM rather than he just being present for what is really being said. If RU' isn't practiced here so well in such person and another brings it up, it's about RU' here first. I'm mad at the DENIAL, and I'm mad about the principles screwed up AND those principles being VERY screwed up by what he's 'channeling'-and has been-I can't believe someone chats with him fresh after him AGAIN seeking women in the dark after all I've said about it!!!! All that it IS and MEANS!

                                                                              I don't know Worm... For me if I'm not being heard-about principles to do with RU that don't HAVE to be about the person so hard specifically- then wtf...We got 'gap' friend, ground to cover by some force due to Nathan?. A peer (you) I've towed the line, held space about; held opening for in cheeriness and LIFE and wonder...This action of chatting with Nathan...isn't a great indication...The hope is...real self coming through...telling us what it IS between others here-and there's only a few...

                                                                              Speaking of few compared to Universally speaking here, Luana was just going-off in that 'universal' direction again. Rather, the forum WOULD become silent for that to find balance. She'd just been sick awhile she said..and felt like spewing, expressing...her personal stuff at that...'Gold belts' ay yi yi (what's up with that?) Pride, 'rage momologist?!?! (What's a monologist? Sounds about right.

                                                                              But seriously, we witnessed a big bonding and then a big rift between her and Andora....Daisy's bond with Luana again has its rage problems but feminine-wise it's great for holding the forum together should they choose it ongoingly. I'm grateful. Back to Nathan, please, it's no 'big hurt' for him to straighten the F out...miles away from some RU levels he's hit the WALL about here...MY denial and hatred, look at him go, look at him keep the lies alive...please

                                                                              S


                                                                              • Re: Worm and Nathan were saying....

                                                                                Fri, October 16, 2009 - 9:50 AM
                                                                                Nathan says,.."..and holding such a strong energy feild of vehement denial and hatred towards me..."

                                                                                I want to 'chat' about this some more
                                                                                Firstly, he NEVER OWNS such 'field' of himself. He immed. converts it, avoids it, and slaps it back,.

                                                                                What is this 'energy'? It is a new-agey meaning he's attributing here. Such field would be of dead (ened) essence. Very difficult to cover and one that we need to know we're doing the homeworks about IF we're going to share effectively. But 'forget' the word 'energy'...Get to the facts.

                                                                                'Towards me'-not only is he DRIVEN to slap back...he FORWARDS it. That's of perpetration, targeting, get-off...Point is, like Aux' checked of Luana, it's no longer the time for that.

                                                                                So, Worm, I 'take back' my projections...all I can. Just...carry on, you got a great RU thing to give and I'm all for it...Pls think so of me as well...This Nathan-thing...just needs his real self. If he's TOO wayward, well, wtf? But against women in general? Habitually?! See, that's all lost Light....Is he healing it? Is he getting anywhere? HE WAS MODERATOR while 'channeling' all that! So...that 'brought me out'. When it's done, I'm done with that...back to my own real self states for example...

                                                                                I certainly don't 'hold' such a field-anyone else knows about coming out of denial, you don't go back in...THAT field...will KEEP going away...like letting go blame-guilt from this forum. It'll go away...No, I'm aware of REAL SELVES coming out, behind it 100-percent (albeit getting through some word-fog is tricky here)...Why should I continually be shocked for HIS shock that he doesn't know all these things already?
                                                                                • Re: Leave him Alone

                                                                                  Fri, October 16, 2009 - 11:36 AM
                                                                                  I'm not even projecting from the books, but it's more from live-experience.

                                                                                  Nathan is the lowest here of Vibrating and we've all witnessed the compassion for that. But he's got some severe lost-light problem that's hard to pinpoint: psycho here, guilt there; luciferian imprinting; Satan's hiding'shame there...It's GOT TO GO. There's no role at forum here from him. He's just jumping on. 'Free ride'.

                                                                                  I was told the spirit-polarity is healed. So Nathan must be denied heart BESIDES the gap he's being here: his latest:

                                                                                  "I am not interested in your bullshit divide and conquer projection" He'll eat anything.

                                                                                  "You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. " O but she's got some STUFF anyway esp compared to 'you'.

                                                                                  "you consistently misunderstand and misread my attempts to communicate with you, and I think whatever you read into it has nothing to do with me. " And she just aired out that your attempts to communicate with her were so OFF yet not a word about it: no interest to heal, no tolerance of pov, no NOTHING RU'...'Saying you HAVE no 'communication skills! They've been brought into question!!! THAT FIRST!

                                                                                  "I don't care what your "philosophy" is or isn't. not at all. " Without care you won't understand ANYthing further here-her real self is still saying SOMEthing throughout. Duh. Out.

                                                                                  (And 'shove down my throat/shut down my voice'). Better check the back-end of that: For example, CAN your voice be shut out? What is up with your blue chakra that it is enTIREly in question here-and will remain so as long as necessary?

                                                                                  Utter and COMPLETE lost light/adolescence. A waste but also : bad intent SPEAKING. Through and through: no good for the forum, no good for RU', no good for humanity, no good for persons 'speaking to him'..It's not aligned with ANYthing..That's what I say. His stuff is ALways not in real time...I see no Example of RU' here. It's lower than basic communing of humanity-he doesn't support or back the intro to this Tribe-which is still fairly new a revsised intro btw. Nobody asked or checked with myself!

                                                                                  I don't have to take it.
                                                                                  S
                                                                                  • Re: Leave him Alone

                                                                                    Fri, October 16, 2009 - 11:44 AM
                                                                                    "..and admittedly feels a vested interest in shutting down my voice. "

                                                                                    (Nathan speaking of myself)

                                                                                    huh? lol
                                                                                    What I feel, huh?

                                                                                    Since it doesn't sink in: "..I have trapped you in order for you to live..." sure I can do that role as necessary

                                                                                    'life is a threat to the dead' and all that; years-old new age statement

                                                                                    YOU don't have the 'ru' power all of a sudden; can't even be yourself here? O piss off
                                                                                    • Re: Leave him Alone

                                                                                      Fri, October 16, 2009 - 11:54 AM
                                                                                      Nathan to Andora

                                                                                      "...I will not only not refuse to stop communicating with you privately, I will gladly cease communicating with you privately now since its clear you have no real inclination to work with me..."

                                                                                      Nope 'no stalker here'. NOW will you leave him alone?

                                                                                      *roll*
                                                                                      • Re: More free healings

                                                                                        Fri, October 16, 2009 - 12:39 PM
                                                                                        Nathan goes on like some fragment out-there someone isn't owning

                                                                                        "...i can believe you do not trust the intent of the private communications and so felt uncomfortable about them...",

                                                                                        He, it, is supposed to know the range of DIStrust out there and yet he can't believe it he's not trusted-after all that's been transpiring these months on his part.

                                                                                        "...but I do not feel this reflects on my intent."

                                                                                        No, he, it, doesn't feel enough yet.
                                                                                        No-worry on how BAD his Intent has been around here, no...'Guess he just flings the words around like he knows what they're about. Someday, yea. 'Sure'. 'Intent'...

                                                                                        What reflects on his intent...(neither functions seem to be at a working stage about him). Free ride.

                                                                                        • Re: More free healings

                                                                                          Fri, October 16, 2009 - 12:49 PM
                                                                                          PS

                                                                                          Or 'can believe'-I mis-read a tiny bit but again, I'm not hear to swim in evil imprinting-brain-spew that smacks against the law even if one imagines such law-break here. Bottom line is it's=he's-against women and he's against new Creed, let alone just being normal at a forum. But he'll 'work it in' biding by Andora's meaning, not getting the DRIFT at first for being so expert on such new creeds in the first place. 'Moving outwardly prematurely and long after upon a public forum-let's hope it's not the same with blaring Christmas-lighted Symbols of RU...

                                                                                          S
                                                                                          • Re: More converting rage for free ride by Nathan

                                                                                            Fri, October 16, 2009 - 1:33 PM
                                                                                            You think I'm lifting quotes w/o reason or content or authenticity?

                                                                                            If you're just wrong, you will be proved so-as you insist. You later say you could be-seeing that Daisy didn't leave you alone and 'made space' for you-about Andora which you comment about as her being somewhat crucified. That's LIVE rhetoric as compared to finding mine yet here. YOU ARE crucifying her by PM NO DOUBT.
                                                                                            You think I can't face you man-to-man? What CRAP! Obviously it's about holding my space from being misconstrued showing up in 'your' thread. Standing my ground from empowering you from being further an ass here.

                                                                                            Your actual evil hits I leave to themselves. Who around here would want those? You KNOW you are gapped here Nathan, that's the difference. But evil light has so many layers over your head too. It's no one's specialty; I, for example, work more groundedly about them-this leaves you a MITE of leeway. I just wait for your ERRS here to catchup/hit home. So 'you can't help it' trying to get your worm in on some women...Others will sort it out whether you're humble and good-god

                                                                                            'heart presence being rejected by both sides so painful' in the meantime or not.

                                                                                            He needs a threesome alright Ladies. Funny how he goes about it. Flare some more hate online, fella. Tick-tock.

                                                                                            S
                                                                                            • Re: More converting rage for free ride by Nathan

                                                                                              Fri, October 16, 2009 - 1:36 PM
                                                                                              Tis person (Andora) says it like I would too to 'you' Nathan

                                                                                              "...YOU REFUSE TO HONOR THE SIMPLE BOUNDARY I REQUESTED
                                                                                              IN THIS YOU CROSSED A LINE
                                                                                              WHY DON'T YOU RESPOND TO THAT?

                                                                                              instead you are twisting what occurred and avoiding the fact that you were aggressing me against my Will!

                                                                                              what about that?.."

                                                                                              Come ON Nathan, we're waiting til there is no more bs
                                                                                              S

                                                                                              • Re: Finding Nuggets

                                                                                                Fri, October 16, 2009 - 3:42 PM
                                                                                                I just found this by Andora today:

                                                                                                "..Teh same with Scott, I asked him to take our conversations out into the open and he refused me....you and he have this in common and yuo are gapped - how predictable that you hate your reflection here Nathan and Scott...."

                                                                                                UnbeLIEVably pisses me off and puts what was built so far with her to ZERO again. I have NO idea what she's talking about-besides it's as far from recipricocity as Nathan's 'will' is from being heard in Hawaii anyway. It is enTIREly untrue, I 'refused her'...And it is FAR from the content at hand. I am shocked-or would be-certainly was shocked by such crap in the past...

                                                                                                She added this "There are many men and women in the world running on the imprint that leads them to violate the personal boundaries of others....you seem to be among this class "

                                                                                                Just FUck You Andora it IS your language I see. You have NO IDEA what my CLASS IS, I also see...Try again. When? Where? Who knows...
                                                                                                Yes, this will clue-in somewhat with what Luana has been saying about forwarding private communes; CERTainly NO EXAMPLE of 'agreements' here and such dreasm also spoken aloud: gap in her meanings. O well.

                                                                                                So, there we are. Andora has some 'come-on with me but this maligned rage wins her out over that-and this communal 'reciprocal' effort of sharing forum. Ground zero, baby-but my Blessings go on, their own merit-.
                                                                                                Even worse: you having PREconceived ideas of me here suspected which must be fueling such attacks. SOMEthing..tch tch tch

                                                                                                Note: Some of my stuff today came from his (Nathan's) Oct 6 shit, same thread: the titles remained the same. Called me a 'SOULLESS FUCK' ...

                                                                                                S
                                                                                                • Re: Finding Nuggets

                                                                                                  Fri, October 16, 2009 - 3:51 PM
                                                                                                  "..how predictable that you hate your reflection here Nathan and Scott..."

                                                                                                  wrong-and god forbid you try to compare me with that. Wow...your denial so visible here is so POWerful! Whacko.

                                                                                                  Start from scratch. Removed as friend: Andora. May be a LONG time...

                                                                                                  S
                                                                                                  • Re: Finding Nuggets

                                                                                                    Fri, October 16, 2009 - 4:15 PM
                                                                                                    I mean, wow.

                                                                                                    Our private communes which she just sacrificed w/o me...ended on happy notes like 'glad you're my friend' 'happy we're not gapped'; no specific 'orders' just her avoidance of speaking sexualities-did I trigger something here?-...insisting on this which is so out-there it takes 2 emails to get-it. Which is ALL THAT'S THERE, 2 short, normal emails and the last mentioned only 'OK'.!!!!. Pen-pal stuff laced with delicious RU talk...

                                                                                                    A little happiness, gratitude goes a long way but now she has sacrificed all of it out here for some g'damned reason she tries to connect with Nathan's own *+**+=*+**. Which also is winding out similarly: he's more innocent somehow-likely. (No need to change any statements I made though).

                                                                                                    Too screwed up for me. I did my homework to Know where you two are at me. And Luana.

                                                                                                    Just as narrow as all the rest of it. Why, I just had a unique perception: how rare it is to get REAL God's Light at the other end of the spectrum from all this Understanding Mother in us...

                                                                                                    GOD Andora, how OFF you must be in the BASICS! A friendly SOMEthing trashed; a real warmth, offerings no different from your 'intents of agreements'...THAT I CAN DO!!!! Lo'....

                                                                                                    S
                                                                                                    • PMs are PMs! RUoW Tribe PMs-different from all the rest. I worthy peer!!!!!

                                                                                                      ASShole!

                                                                                                      Talk of Whales, of Eagles-stuff ONE CAN'T on public Tribe!! How TRUSTING YOU ARE


                                                                                                      Not!!

                                                                                                      JESUS!

                                                                                                      Take WHAT out in the open, asshole?! Personal vision I may have of one here?! Go ahead, make more of my day: bring it all out like your 'dream' says, idiot.

                                                                                                      Hopw 'bout that actress I mentioned?

                                                                                                      Keep it up, FunGirl...private sharing moments the forum can't live without...How about how I feel about your PSYCHO story so undone unbacked?

                                                                                                      How about my personal habits-is THAT for public arena, Loser?

                                                                                                      Nevermind the RUoW of it all, people-Andora is not ready, does not understand SOME major portiions of it!

                                                                                                      CLUES OF LOVE'S PROCESS Take it or leave it- NOT TRASH IT!!!!

                                                                                                      Come ON, take it out there: stuff about my MATE! You're no Sister understanding me, why not? Go for it killer...

                                                                                                      Do NOT lean on you as peer!!!!! No one knows WHY, but DO IT!!!
                                                                                                      • "...i thought andora was here for creating agreements, not for turning into the perpetrator and preemptively destroying her enemies who are already disempowered from hurting her, by the power of the LOVE I Gave her there, and i felt that we were on the verge of creating agreements which would make having to do such unnecessary, but now it looks utterly hopeless to me...."

                                                                                                        I see lies. I see fox taking the place of Another (so maybe I'll call him fox from now on). I see fantastic grandiosity here. I see people 'going on' w/o me 3 times over as either I'm left behind (I doubt is possible) or a king up yonder and this shit echoes down my hallowed halls. Nice little 'chat' there. Gee.

                                                                                                        O 'sorry'; for waking mr dead and/or guilt-trip, O I know you're so tired-me 'lifting his quotes' like I don't know what I'm doing. But after today I see a lot more what others are doing!

                                                                                                        "..preemptively destroying her enemies who are already disempowered from hurting herby the power of the LOVE I Gave her there"

                                                                                                        DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE?!

                                                                                                        It's like being inside the mind of an armchair general-fuck. Has nothing to do with reality. So off the page he (will) go.,Get used to it.

                                                                                                        'You thought you were spirit-polarized for the way the light penetrated you there'...His imprinting doesn't allow him to see me here. This imprinting is rampant everywhere for me. I always hate its being triggered, taking over people like that at the same time its POWER SEEMS to entrap one like me and that party knows it-basks in it very much. He later forgets it, starts feeling like he's at home (with help) and out pops more shit like this above-no good for ANYone

                                                                                                        Just 'nobody home' there...basking in illusions.

                                                                                                        It doesn't matter right now that this may seem like a mess of writing this out, really. (Just wait)

                                                                                                        S
                                                                                                        • I think Andora is just as described, having great dreams and almost there, has big drawbacks, losses of power...I can't help suspect it's drinking something but that's the IF world again-me guessing. Maybe it's about other adjustments...

                                                                                                          I was listenin to RnR all the time of that chat...unbeknownst chatting to me...Ghostly. I just go on deeper places Music's been taking me-now and then-

                                                                                                          She COULD 'come back'. But today, ouch.

                                                                                                          Heartlessness, you see, made a big whammy move today...Maybe 3PM mst my time, who knows. Local. I guess I'm supposed to be triggered-so much heartlessness isn't me, it's hard to tell. I have to Listen for its lostness actually saying or meaning something.

                                                                                                          same old heartlessness; 'remember that Civilization?'

                                                                                                          'You went years w/o me, might as well keep going down (Sugarbaby).'-a paraphrase

                                                                                                          But off to work! See if there's more to come...ME going down, what-not. 'Harmonize the heartlessness' schwew...

                                                                                                          S
                                                                                                          • Today I also had a spell of how wonderful RU people really are-yes here as well despite the profound ugliness from or of one here. So, let's remember that.

                                                                                                            'Quiseen', Luana?

                                                                                                            Gotta get me one of those; great word.

                                                                                                            (Cuisine)
                                                                                                            S
                                                                                                            • "..profound ugliness from or of one here..."

                                                                                                              I mean, three
                                                                                                              • Sorry Scott but the j**s who wrote the DICK SHUNN ERRIE, didnt know how to spell.
                                                                                                                • Luana, I love the way you write. It is so heartfelt and charming. I just love you to pieces!
                                                                                                                  • Scott

                                                                                                                    Sat, October 17, 2009 - 11:13 AM
                                                                                                                    like i said scott, i have the right to pull my threads off of the site

                                                                                                                    i am not into keeping up the residue of this gap for EVIDENCE that we are....yeah
                                                                                                                    you got it....
                                                                                                                    GAPPED

                                                                                                                    i really would like to get past all of the haranguing

                                                                                                                    and i had no idea that Nathan had not seen my requests for him to stop pm-ing me - bc i kept pulling my request off, as i was trying to get across without bludgeoning the rage further

                                                                                                                    as i said above, i had made the same request of you....and you were really friendly about it...even though you sent me another pm
                                                                                                                    i took it as you not remembering or something, until you jumped upon this issue to continue building a case against Nathan....which i find really redundant....and i was simply pointing out how boundaries get crossed in the gap - which is why it is the gap

                                                                                                                    i so wish to be your friend, as i would like to befriend all ruow readers, especially the ones brave enough to continue responding when they are getting lambasted by personalities projecting upon one another - as you and all of us have experienced here with each other

                                                                                                                    you have been doing your best to record such here on various threads as a way of defending yourself from said projections

                                                                                                                    now that the asteroid flyby yesterday missed our lowly planet, maybe we could all sigh a sigh of relief

                                                                                                                    i don't wish to keep score of the gap

                                                                                                                    i don't see anyone as to blame....including you or nathan - or me

                                                                                                                    i care about you and nathan and i feel as though your gap may be spinning with the gap between lu and i

                                                                                                                    like i said, i have no blame or shame for being in the gap with you, nathan, lu, worm, aD, WL, daisy, rae, pink, mother, and the rest
                                                                                                                    i would simply love to stay present with all of you as we map the gap TOGETHER, w/o all the blame and shame...we are innocent...i really believe this, i really think we were all simply born into the gap, still trying to get our heads above water

                                                                                                                    i will do my best to speak as the voice of authority ONLY ABOUT MY OWN PERCEPTIONS....this is the only thing I am an authority about....MY OWN TRUTH, WHICH IS MORE THAN REAL TO ME, IT IS ME - UNIQUE

                                                                                                                    i continue to read your posts because you have put much thought and effort here representing your truth....

                                                                                                                    i hope you can start over with nathan, as i so appreciate the voice of masculinity here - essential

                                                                                                                    i have erased all of my posts, because they were for those who participate...not for the silent readers who refuse to interact with the gap we have been illuminating together - I guess it must not have much to do with them, hence they stay quiet....

                                                                                                                    i am not asking this of you, (delete the posts) as you seem very attached to keeping record of the gap for posterity, or so other's cannot deny their previous point of view, i am only guessing here....but the gap that has been getting aired here is very revealing for those of us who are brave enough to expose ourselves. many times i erased my posts because i cared about the person/persons that were responding there and we were revealing very sensitive issues. don't get me wrong, i believe it has all been productive, and having said that, i am trying to be sensitive toward my own delicate heart, and the heart's of others...without suggesting that any of us is responsible for this gap - the fact that we were willing to map it using our own lives as evidence of what we were observing from our different perspectives.

                                                                                                                    mahalo for your aloha scott
                                                                                                                    • Re: Scott

                                                                                                                      Sat, October 17, 2009 - 11:17 AM
                                                                                                                      i didn't finish the last sentence

                                                                                                                      "the fact that we were willing to map it using our own lives as evidence of what we were observing from our different perspectives."

                                                                                                                      is entirely brave and generous
                                                                                                                      • Re:

                                                                                                                        Sat, October 17, 2009 - 12:38 PM
                                                                                                                        To me, you were asking not to talk ANY Sexuality in PM which I only lightly TESTED and only in general saying me to not PM: you preferred issues aired out, out here. There are issues for privacy and issues for public I understand it as. I stand my ground: you Sacrificed in a warped fashion. You took it out there whatever-connecting with Nathan-how COULD you lump he and I together on top of the PM-thing of yours whatever it is?. ENNH-nope-

                                                                                                                        I see your niceties here, yes: thanks. I still am more now, impressed that you would rather 'have something on me' which is stronger-but DO keep up the Nicety!

                                                                                                                        Patch with Nathan the Fox (positioning unresolved like Ancient Ones needing to go outside themselves but tall order)? Ha ha.
                                                                                                                        Not enough evident RU for ME. How COULD you lump he and I together?

                                                                                                                        I wrote out much more but...
                                                                                                                        • Re:

                                                                                                                          Sat, October 17, 2009 - 1:11 PM
                                                                                                                          "like i said Scott, i have the right to pull my threads off of the site "

                                                                                                                          And I have the rights to stand up for comMUNity, duh. O 'you win'...

                                                                                                                          I take this second or third look at your post and I see more gap in it (like were you drinking recently?) so 'hurry' and get my info/response out back to you; carry on. I mean, the double-meanings in your own stuff here.

                                                                                                                          You and I are not 'gapped'-the gap exists yes but 1) we have had a little 'love' pass-at least I did-between and 2) the rest of you is just you-out here, out there, judged whatever...doing your thing. That's not 'gap'., We drift, yes.

                                                                                                                          Being brave 'courageous' is not my thing or everyday self. This face-off with imbalance from another has been HELL of 'bravery'...I hope it's done well. But it's not me. It's been a Warrior thing: as you mention YOUR truth, same here, along with an attempt of dedication of this Path. Haranguing, keeping score: not me. Of course not.

                                                                                                                          I 'see' the Fox of it not seeking balance there. Today. I can feel different about it at least.

                                                                                                                          I'm interested in how you handle your 'residue' sure (I might learn something). Has Nathan 'learned' from what all this has been? Has Luana? I'll just know and trust me, I do not leave stuff hanging or uncleansed.

                                                                                                                          Whereas if a wound is too deep that I bear myself, then guess what I would have to do? Remove or change myself on a large scale-this society demonstrates it can't handle this change-part. Just taking care of myself.

                                                                                                                          S
                                                                                                                          • Re:

                                                                                                                            Sat, October 17, 2009 - 1:54 PM
                                                                                                                            I said, "That's not 'gap'., We drift, yes. " That's borderline denying the gap I admit now. If you really want to heal gap between us, that is: I have to LOOK; admit it's there. So, yes, we have varying viewpoints and in them, a little deeper, are the indications of any real issues. But you haven't really spoken this outloud, that you wish to heal gap with ME...We'd have to assume again. Ah: back to the PMs where I definitely gave a big clue. OK-then that's all for now (see what other clues come up and so forth or not)..Thanks, have a nice Beach
                                                                                                                            S
                                                                                                                            • Re: Worm and Nathan again

                                                                                                                              Sun, October 18, 2009 - 6:57 PM
                                                                                                                              tribes.tribe.net/lostwillf...383790d153

                                                                                                                              Whoa, no-no-no...So this is another case of more than me not liking it: it's GOT to be wrong.
                                                                                                                              Nathan hadn't said 'bury the names', just that his focus was away from projecting with others.

                                                                                                                              So Worm (you) tried to use second-person all the way through. That is WEIRD man. Has some bad insinuations- one being it's like you guys want more privacy but it's at the parties' expense of course. Another is that a reader really has to work it to grasp it plus us already here having to align who said what to which name here. Thirdly, the issues we use often here...say, 'secondary RUoW' to try and commune,are not that clear and across-the-board to make the jump that what you or Nathan say is rote; written in cement-ya follow? (We NEED the names to reference)

                                                                                                                              We..fill in...RU statements at times b/c the books weren't perfect or otherwise purposely left undone. Now we can discuss all this, come to (ta DA!): agreements or we can lose it various ways, wherein how much can Daisy, I mean us-all, take
                                                                                                                              :)

                                                                                                                              Thanks
                                                                                                                              S
                                                                                                                              • Re: Worm and Nathan again

                                                                                                                                Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:15 AM
                                                                                                                                Scott, i think you are a victim of being able to type TOO fast....
                                                                                                                                You can actually write down the thoughts that fire off your randomly fireing brain.

                                                                                                                                THEY GOT SCOTT !!!
                                                                                                                                • Re: Per Luana

                                                                                                                                  Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:46 AM
                                                                                                                                  Yea well, here's your post below. I'm too happy to play diplomat right now; to defend that I'm PASSING BAD SHIT!
                                                                                                                                  TCH TCH TCH Luana!
                                                                                                                                  It's the Moment taking over.

                                                                                                                                  lots of loving light in the brain-heh-.speed bumps and jumps, yes.
                                                                                                                                  They don't got me-but I may need your big hands to help dig some Gold.
                                                                                                                                  That 'they' always entrapped Atlanteans, y'know.. Bad habit. Stand-offs. Some of the Atlant's blended with Water to escape.
                                                                                                                                  Ach, it's weird, too much to spell out for the moment here. I'm talking about my sitch a little, vs imprinting. Maybe later

                                                                                                                                  But yea, current events like that and Obama as subject here, blee-ech


                                                                                                                                  "Re: THE BOY THAT WASN'T IN THE BALLOON
                                                                                                                                  Today, 12:04 AM
                                                                                                                                  Andora,
                                                                                                                                  leave it to you and be a total sheeple and get this story exactly the way the media wanted you to get it.....Oh and how i am soooo not surprised to see you judgeing against Mother and Father and sticking up for that little snitch HS who ratted out his own parents.Yeah, you are real quick to condemn the Mother and Father in this senerio, EVEN TO SENDING THEM TO PRISON !!!!!!!
                                                                                                                                  SOCIALIST BITCH !!!!!!!

                                                                                                                                  AND LEAVE IT TO YOU TO BE A BOOT LICKEN OBOMUNIST TOO... " It was a great speech," OMG !!! Do you know NOTHING about socialism and how 20 million people were murdered under this regeem in russia etc. .......just in this century

                                                                                                                                  Have you even SEEN "the oboma deception," ? and realized who it is who pulls his strings?
                                                                                                                                  HELL NO !!! You are waaaay too busy believeing the J**, media, propoganda, machine.

                                                                                                                                  You are brain washed and you are mind controlled by the media, and, in your ignorance,
                                                                                                                                  You are anti parent, and, anti humanist.....and also in your ignorance, you are evil. "

                                                                                                                                  S
                                                                                                                                  • Re: Per Luana

                                                                                                                                    Wed, October 21, 2009 - 12:01 PM
                                                                                                                                    Wow-POOF this thread 'Things Moving Quickly' just vanished within a minute or two of my reply which i was correcting:

                                                                                                                                    "Scott, i read the first sentence than i.." YEP That's the extent of it in a nutshell; what I've been saying
                                                                                                                                    You can't relate with healing in this case and you've said so for quite some time. For all your '.highly evolved'
                                                                                                                                    expertness-SO much saying so too-: (to continue);

                                                                                                                                    "..they litteraly make me kind of dizzy and nausious..."

                                                                                                                                    bingo...That's your cue. It just took me awhile to get the full meanings here-that my phase in life is 'highly evolved' to yours. JUST ME AND YOU though...It's REALLY the way it is. All of us 'gone down' (before) makes no difference after all.
                                                                                                                                    My door's open-SO TO SPEAK and you never go in. No prob., I just have a problem with waste sometimes-so watch for the cleaning.. If there's ANY further separation, it's what you ask for, what you MAKE..(like your claim you're a mother-hater)

                                                                                                                                    Tcare
                                                                                                                                    S
                                                                                                                                    • Re: Per Luana

                                                                                                                                      Wed, October 21, 2009 - 1:24 PM
                                                                                                                                      Shut up stupid ass !...
                                                                                                                                      Im tiard of reading your shit fragging stupidness with all the subliminal inuendos that are pure double think, and, make no sence.

                                                                                                                                      I knew you were gonna come back and try to make the case that if your posts make me sick that it MUST be something that i am really needing ...In SOME cases this might be true, but in your skitzed out, unreadable, mumbo jumbo, it is not true.
                                                                                                                                      • Re: Per Luana

                                                                                                                                        Wed, October 21, 2009 - 1:44 PM
                                                                                                                                        "I knew you were gonna come back and try to make the case that if your posts make me sick that it MUST be something that i am really needing ...In SOME cases this might be true, but in your skitzed out, unreadable, mumbo jumbo, it is not true. "

                                                                                                                                        You 'knew it' and that it was 'me'?

                                                                                                                                        Honey, you're talking to a machine esp. if you're denying

                                                                                                                                        with a relish

                                                                                                                                        S
                                                                                                                                        • Re: Per Luana (editing 7:35PM)

                                                                                                                                          Sat, October 24, 2009 - 5:22 PM
                                                                                                                                          L-"Scott, You wouldnt know the Mother..''

                                                                                                                                          So now it's Scott?

                                                                                                                                          "You mention vaccinations..." No, I mentioned that the 'swine flu' has been made a Nat'l Emer. which g'damed makes 'space' for people to stream in FOR vaccinations.
                                                                                                                                          And I mention BD for the third time (!)
                                                                                                                                          Did you get my links about Missing Children at all? (What else can I do?-these one, two Paths sure need our 'power' first huh and it's enough, rather).

                                                                                                                                          Just have a virtual seat right here sister and 'tell me all about it'-why you can't get past unlovingness despite Spirit and Will-awarenesses..
                                                                                                                                          Van Halen may've sung"She's my Machine" but I sure didn't.

                                                                                                                                          Now I go for real Song
                                                                                                                                          • Re: Per Luana

                                                                                                                                            Wed, October 28, 2009 - 8:01 AM
                                                                                                                                            Nu has been saying,

                                                                                                                                            "...we wouldn't boot a member unless it was agreed that member was a true and huge menace, which Luana is not. There's love and lots of it in her every rant. Some times fear or only receiving her mentally blocks perception of that love.
                                                                                                                                            So please, should it apply, when she jiggles your reptilian brain stem into fighting mode, go move stuff, give the computer a break, quit reading her stuff for a bit, go scream and or pound on some sofa or something...but please
                                                                                                                                            don't try to punish Luana for your reaction to her nor for what she stirs within you. "

                                                                                                                                            tribes.tribe.net/lostwillf...9b17ea0a6c

                                                                                                                                            Major cud to chew-meanwhile. Love let be time after time: her denial shows time after time. And it's horrid denial. We can't go past principles that run this place (which she gambles and 'tests') and expect it to survive. There was NOT love in her every rant, it was what little love she had transformed for whatever reason to blistering attack and run-over and all other bad intents that have long been infested in bad light thereof.

                                                                                                                                            Her own movements: nothing here shared whatsoever. Messages in her own jargon, yes.

                                                                                                                                            Her 'love' never evolves with the English language? Doesn't add up...Damages to the Self splayed out here, attacking others' damages/selves? Nah.

                                                                                                                                            OK, so cud to chew, we have an (innocent) member in Nu who's not Heard a thing I've been saying.

                                                                                                                                            Chew Chew: The black horse is the Night Mare; we can still use It in Ceremony as the sacred Animal it is. Castaneda had such Nightmare: he described universal or of totality: THINGS that were like large dustballs or tumbleweeds that kept hitting the 'fragile' awesome human Egg shell....outer layer...ALL ONE'S LIFE practically until finally they break the Shell at the lower-mid area and the person begins dying.
                                                                                                                                            Was Seeing it meaning he was already 'dead'? Was he murdered or, is it ALL about fear-of-the-world all over again? (What if that fear is illegally, evilly attacking YOU-even in 'early sign' and it 'just goes on'???)

                                                                                                                                            Langoliers in other words. (Yes, the movie)

                                                                                                                                            Suppose members here succumb to BEING such tumbleweeds, langoliers, hmm? It is anti-RUoW...

                                                                                                                                            O yes it's all 'bullshit' (handling a Langolier)

                                                                                                                                            or it's all fear-of-the-world...Either way, some members here are that. They needed to go back and find Movement long ago and in a big way

                                                                                                                                            This means Nu is projecting when supporting that Luana is love; how else would he deny this tremendous reality? I reserve a bit here due to his age. This is for people older than ~32 and younger than `59. This age-group having its say.

                                                                                                                                            Langoliers be guilt, maybe Lost Will in a sense (of course heartless, 'evil' and out of control-as in mixed with Earth-imprinting itSELF). Well, they're EVERYTHING fucked up and dark-THAT totality. They're like the Balls thrown to Earth long ago, yes?

                                                                                                                                            and only riding the Night Mare home might you survive.

                                                                                                                                            Whatever deftness it takes to close them out of here while remaining in harmony, remains to be seen. Put it this way: they did not read the books and do not understand them deeply enough.

                                                                                                                                            'If this goes on there'll be nothing left'...

                                                                                                                                            So in that I support Aux's stance to remove Luana and later work out her 'love' for us/the place. Nu was a bit too strong saying that she is not a true and huge menace. (the other end of the projection that she's all love HERE? : imbalance spoken-?-)

                                                                                                                                            Other than that, YEA MOVE

                                                                                                                                            'sorry I was in the way of a Langolier here myself'...the timing: her coming on as the other one was 'in trouble'...but to do with me (by, via that death threat stuff. THAT was what she wanted). 'Langolier has spoken' in other words.

                                                                                                                                            You want that to rule/coexist????!.

                                                                                                                                            S

                                                                                                                                            • Re: Per Luana

                                                                                                                                              Wed, October 28, 2009 - 9:26 PM
                                                                                                                                              Thanks for yet another long, drunk, piece of retorical gap babble, that noone understands.
                                                                                                                                              • Re: Per Luana

                                                                                                                                                Wed, October 28, 2009 - 9:29 PM
                                                                                                                                                Nu isnt drunk and therefore channeling lucifer like you are Scott.

                                                                                                                                                No wonder you can not see that i am THE personifycation of Love's Sweetest indowment.
                                                                                                                                                • Re: Per Luana

                                                                                                                                                  Wed, October 28, 2009 - 10:57 PM
                                                                                                                                                  Thanks for polluting my thread again with lies and anti-RUoW and BS Luana
                                                                                                                                                  too bad that ain't sexy sensual or sentient; denial creates some UGLY things...
                                                                                                                                                  We really move on now; your steps of denial aren't the only ones
                                                                                                                                                  • Re: Per Luana

                                                                                                                                                    Wed, October 28, 2009 - 11:28 PM
                                                                                                                                                    WHY are you writing ME at this stage-thousand miles away, little between us, a shitload of work to be done; millions of loved ones at hand and your being fully questioned of using this forum.?

                                                                                                                                                    But you never really answer-is it because you have secrets or is it that the secrets do not commune themselves, and get in real time here? Harboring things that need change and air and light and everything else. You SOUND confused here alright.

                                                                                                                                                    There's bad intent but the good intent quest's on-now you've brought up 'murder' O and you're not triggered? If you are and write to ME, can't you SPEAK? Do you want to talk about it? Or does trigger ALways mean everyone's an enemy and you STILL do NOT see me as a peer you can basically trust?

                                                                                                                                                    But you never really answer-you get occupied by what's there with you. That's not the problem-you keep being told- (not) MOVING IT is...

                                                                                                                                                    Me? Drunk? That's reaching. Reaching means you're in trouble somehow, maybe triggered (of course)...But STOP THE BS or we come around to this...It has to stop, for reasons made plain as possible. When others 'reach' suddenly you plaster them! Let heart have its way there.

                                                                                                                                                    What if others have their secrets and their troubles communing? What if they wish to air out their grandiosities w/o getting so busted?

                                                                                                                                                    Nobody home? Can't find or be at home? STOP it, find REAL forgiveness, find God that was never there before 'here'. It's just that you may have to take a couple of knocks, huh-seems that way-
                                                                                                                                                    • Re: Per Luana-Langoliers at it again

                                                                                                                                                      Sat, October 31, 2009 - 2:59 PM
                                                                                                                                                      Don't mean to HOLD the description upon you/them but...

                                                                                                                                                      it's rather gross-in thread about removing Luana

                                                                                                                                                      tribes.tribe.net/lostwillf...9b17ea0a6c

                                                                                                                                                      Luana ;forgets about last night' as well as what the thread is doing there: "People who have not even finished the books is the REAL problem around here..." deflecting its focus...as wlel as it being untrue and undermining to the forum

                                                                                                                                                      This is not even a viable suggestion: "I believe that if people can not answer some basic questions about the indigo book that they should not be allowed to join these ruow discussion groops."

                                                                                                                                                      adding "It is just not fair..." This is pure immaturity, of self, of one 'with the books' and therefore this forum: .

                                                                                                                                                      And why would 'un-readers' be at all 'half-baked'?

                                                                                                                                                      Then, Nathan; weird like the two received a Friday night party alright and not a good kind: still hungover even if by an osmosis not in good enough shape for presence here (I claim).

                                                                                                                                                      "After getting directly and intimately involved and processing EXTENSIVELY about this, this is the conclusion I have come to, and I now feel like I may understand--or i may be projecting my own feelings in to it- (~dot dot dot~) (I may regret saying this tomorrow, but so be it.)
                                                                                                                                                      INTIMATE???!!!!

                                                                                                                                                      Wtf? he spells out ultra confusion, having moved "extensively" but twice writes ambivalences in the same paragraph..

                                                                                                                                                      I DO feel uncomfortable about 'them', like this, yes.

                                                                                                                                                      ~
                                                                                                                                                      • Re: Per Luana-Langoliers at it again

                                                                                                                                                        Sat, October 31, 2009 - 3:51 PM
                                                                                                                                                        I would like to ask people to stop opening forums for people who have not even finished reading the ruow books, much less all of the other related material....they are disruptive and infintile....they should be at home FINISHING THE BOOKS !!! before they show their faces on the net....they spend all their time here and not FINISHING THE BOOKS before they show up in public.

                                                                                                                                                        If someone DOES open a forum for beginners or those who have been in this under 10 years or those who have not finished the books....than they should CLEARLY state that that is the people who that particular forum is designed for.

                                                                                                                                                        Instead of more advanced people comming here and waisting also of time finding out that we have landed directly in the kiddy pool with a bunch of drunk, whinning babys, who are still in their ruow diapers.
                                                                                                                                                        • Re: Per Luana-Langoliers at it again

                                                                                                                                                          Sat, October 31, 2009 - 7:05 PM
                                                                                                                                                          Halloween...I haven't heard What It Is from any Wiccans around :)

                                                                                                                                                          But more smorgasbord gleaned from Luana's denials :p

                                                                                                                                                          On Nathan's new thread, she goes, "..the question as to what IS and IS NOT "unloveing light," has been answered a loooong time ago..."

                                                                                                                                                          My GOD, no it hasn't. It was laid out in the references, yea. From there.. (hey ho). Why else would they worry out loud that it's unknown if the Lost Will would move towards the bad or good Light???? God-loving Spirit- has not been on Earth enough in the past!!!! It is TOO unknown; it is SO unknown. And messes have been made by certain LIVES of 'parental parts' proving this. BIG messes like entire religions and ongoing religous BULLshit wars!

                                                                                                                                                          And she's just 'dicking around' like a fricking PEAcock-whipping it out here, slamming it there, throwing it away; wasting when she 'comes back' to the books and stuff like this forum-she has to see/own this waste. Unless she has a death wish in effect.. ANyway, I certainly had my experiences of Loving Light and I don't mean Orgasm. I was 'cleansed' there so I know a little about it.-direct experience in at least one case. The rest of loving light on Earth: y'know: enjoy. Find it. But Luano i NOT describing it and hasn't been (!), as pertains to 'around here'.

                                                                                                                                                          In Daisy's HOW thread it's this "...I have gained popularity on some other sites that are peopled by PARENTAL PARTS who dont even know about ruow... ". No brain-cleansing THERE. 'Parental parts, she's been told, so let's not repeat it too much: 'parental is a VERB'. There is NO defining 'parental parts' therefore except in circles happening to allow some discussion-particulars-. This is not it right now. Talk about entrapping themselves to explain.

                                                                                                                                                          ttys
                                                                                                                                                          S
                                                                                                                                                          • Re: Per Luana-Langoliers at it again

                                                                                                                                                            Mon, November 2, 2009 - 4:42 PM
                                                                                                                                                            Oh, a HUGE dump out from the Halloween-Full Moon weekend here by one those langoliers! Look at the SIZE of that POST! This afternoon...

                                                                                                                                                            tribes.tribe.net/lostwillf...9b17ea0a6c

                                                                                                                                                            The guy's been PUT ON THE SPOT: the mind controls him, it is negative towards Will and the feminine and it's what is feeding this forum's 'problems' (quite a few have brought up about 'attacks'). Look at the limits RIGHT THERE of such Mind just being in a wrong thread for its 'discussion' which also, certainly looked dam' moot to me by the other'. Just no sensitivity, no awarenesses of how to move here-say, particularly. And people are so brainwashed, they 'stick up for it'....in that person. Do they say anything about what IT IS?!

                                                                                                                                                            He himself DOES NOT KNOW the lady in question! When you don't know a woman AND SHE SAYS NO PRETTY MUCH.....anything else is stalking! DUH! That mind is INVENTING story! That REAL SELF is not operational! One CAN have a more organic mind, or one with harmony with the other parts.

                                                                                                                                                            Don't you get it? Spirit-male-mind has to move FIRST there! He wants that position, then he has to work it-move FIRST! OR F'IN LEAVE!

                                                                                                                                                            S
                                                                                                                                                            • Re: Per Luana-Langoliers at it again

                                                                                                                                                              Mon, November 2, 2009 - 11:35 PM
                                                                                                                                                              The guy just seems to me as nothing truly with the books...
                                                                                                                                                              and since as well. He just goes on (11PM now) as if I said nothing all these months.

                                                                                                                                                              Talking out here assuming we're cool with each other (and the same assumptive power in the opposite direction), focusing out here, blaming out here, needy out here, stalking out here-a simple reality: you use THIS forum, then you use THIS path. .

                                                                                                                                                              I have a bit of a say for the denial of it running a little rampant; a little momentum-good or bad- before Andora arrived, for example. I myself am NOT this gap. I don't SAY it's gap over and over like he does-or gaps with others. That whole area of description is not clear. What IS clear is what I've said and that I back it up. I know it b/c others have been clear to me as well-and all along Time is a little trippy here, some of us know. He has to put something in kind into the group as it is. If he doesn't, then he's gone b/c he positions as against this forum. Doesn't he know how to move? Is it true that all we see is 'relationship' (which Chakra/Area is that?) and psychoanalysing? Then don't respond! Let love fill in/heart have its way! But YOU must put your foot down, you others...

                                                                                                                                                              ALL these areas that run his posts need movement within first. We're ALL at various stages with the same...principle...but this one is glaring.
                                                                                                                                                              (Now STOP it,), I'd say if I really had an audience. It's quite shaky, that....I'm still moving through gap in general-I'm not here to SPREAD it.

                                                                                                                                                              The truths of Father travel through our brains-most of us-meaning it takes time for the truths to meet with actual 'love'...I've had no intention that people may have to read older threads which can take HOURS! This negligence of a waiting Seed-human or germination of books done by 2000, plus one, has to stop. To flower he has to MOVE! Life is movement!

                                                                                                                                                              ~~
                                                                                                                                                              S
                                                                                                                                                              • Re: Per Luana-Langoliers at it again Note to Self

                                                                                                                                                                Tue, November 3, 2009 - 9:27 AM
                                                                                                                                                                OK, so Andora pops on 'very next AM and 'chats' with Nathan. OK: done. They want separation in some way I can't do anything about, it's lacking RU' to me. Here's a woman who blessed my computer setting here at home somehow-GREAT! Something WORKED. But things move along apparently, or, back to old self still fighting some things out i(in them).

                                                                                                                                                                S
                                                                                                                                                                • Re: Per Luana-Langoliers at it again

                                                                                                                                                                  Wed, November 4, 2009 - 11:46 AM
                                                                                                                                                                  So Luana (says she) leaves. A great hush ensues-and Nathan breaks the wind thereof! I could say exactly the same thing as a few posts ago about this as if not received. It's no good denying the content: only here for the ride of others' understandings and power-feel/power-trippin.. Not enough homework, not enough dedication etc. Just a problem...breaking wind again.

                                                                                                                                                                  Just addiction? I doubt it. Niceties only? I doubt it. That's why at some point I just give up, move on, 'let rage speak': he's a squirt and a worm who's supposed to be more in a family way btw. Anything of THAT here from him? Nope. Ape-positioning, goes without saying too much.
                                                                                                                                                                  He sets up a laziness around here.

                                                                                                                                                                  So Luana said little in the goodbye, not much to depend on. Put that much into the forums and won't even rouse up a computer to participate?

                                                                                                                                                                  Still not 'the gap'...It's levels to me. Use-of-internet and brain-state being two. Within those levels are those of the rages that went all haywire here. Thus we see only THESE parts of Luana-not that she cared. It didn't show healing that these areas of use (being much of Purple and Indigo); that she was in control of them; that she could keep it trim, that she could promote more love HERE. I wouldn't 'talk about' what she is otherwise-this is what she was HERE. She could PLAY that too-the rest of herself-, but didn't or fails at it again.

                                                                                                                                                                  HOW do these layers promote gap or not? THAT'S where it counts of who the person is and what they are. What can they back-up? HOW do they back it up? If rage takes over the author, thus taking over the LIVING layers I'm talking about, then THIS is what's REALLY bugging to the forum: the blockage increases.

                                                                                                                                                                  And so on
                                                                                                                                                                  S



                                                                                                                                                                  • Re: Quit Farting Around

                                                                                                                                                                    Wed, November 4, 2009 - 12:32 PM
                                                                                                                                                                    Or 'Quit it now!' as Rage-against-the-Machine sang it in "Bulls on Parade" (they rally 'round the FAMily, with a pocketful of sHells)

                                                                                                                                                                    Luana is now 'St. Matthew 5:25' (what IS that verse anyway?) a 'male' from Boca Raton...Are we getting closer to the opium trade or just getting Closer (a movie and a song too) more denied?

                                                                                                                                                                    Erase the slate there Booana, try again. Help clear the internet of false identities!
                                                                                                                                                                    • Re: More Lucifill

                                                                                                                                                                      Tue, November 10, 2009 - 2:18 PM
                                                                                                                                                                      There he goes again! Like some gossip-queen commentator-critic of just the stuff we don't need! He's a male, I think, and a male pulls OFF-away- the unloving gossip when women are just doing what they do/where they're at LIKE SEEKING NON-JUDGEMENT and less of these further interpretations and what MIND did beFORE Will experience (which has evolved just not in this, his case). So he's up for being booted. Well, OK.

                                                                                                                                                                      Check it out, wtf-where is the GROUND?!?!: "...aD used to be very pro-daisy, but now that daisy become pro-luana, aD become anti-daisy and pro-andora, but she's not really pro-andora, she just hates luana! if luana weren't have been here, no doubt she'd be lining up wiht daisy against andora. so why does she hate luana?..."

                                                                                                                                                                      With Luana, it hasn't been a case of 'loving consciousness'-what a moRONic use of words! Awareness he means, while it's her NOT being conscious that indicates all her state, her faults, her bad english and all the rest! WHERE was she fragmented? Andora's been getting close but like any of us WE HAVE TO DROP THE GOSSIP ANYWAY as process....It's the source of bs, such Mind Nathan channels again here. He hasn't heard a Word I said, that it's REAL process I'm pointing per the situation! REAL RUoW-inclusive info and how-to's and follow-ups...He doesn't stay 'in the moment' for there's his negativity at Daisy/women all over again: when Daisy is as right as it comes, talking to Andora about Daughter and Place! Now Nathan wants to be in the way! LUCIFILL! I repeat, Andora has had some light on the case about Luana, for ALL but NOT FOR NATHAN'S LUCIFILL! Albeit, 'funny they love each other' in words out here recently....?????? Seems like a froggy-leapy thing to me, now we see..

                                                                                                                                                                      I add, if Andora's Daughter and Nathan 'son', HMM-get out of the way of GOD stuff and BE SON then (mm: lots of wordlessness)-as Daisy says of Andora.

                                                                                                                                                                      No one asked for such 'Nathan perspective'...that I see and at least I'm well beyond assuming it, that he has some 'role' here.

                                                                                                                                                                      All the while, he does the same thing: 'emotionally polarize' to one woman THEN ANTI-that woman-and on to the next; round and round the rage-habit unloving light rep' he is.

                                                                                                                                                                      'hurt is hiding in a clash of ethics', duh. Repeated drivel of a MAJOR teaching. He does NOTHING about it NOTICE.

                                                                                                                                                                      Here is his only punch line or truth to me in that whole long (what?)-and it's a neg. bend, but: "...(IF we-the great IF-world again) participate in a group agreement to support these pretenses instead of the truth, then we cheat ourselves of healing..." hinting deeper that we made pacts as the dragons made pacts. But in FULL reality, it's not true. Close, but such is evil to God. Close, but don't BS God.

                                                                                                                                                                      He's called us all dishonest at least twice in this post. Tch, tch, tch....

                                                                                                                                                                      ~
                                                                                                                                                                      S



                                                                                                                                                                      • Re: More Lucifill

                                                                                                                                                                        Tue, November 10, 2009 - 4:23 PM
                                                                                                                                                                        Hi Scott,

                                                                                                                                                                        I really have to wonder why you invest yourself so heavily in criticizing me. Have you nothing better to do? I'm not trying to shove my perspective down yours or anyone's throat.... If you don't find it useful then just ignore it. same goes for anyone.
                                                                                                                                                                        • Re: More Lucifill

                                                                                                                                                                          Wed, November 11, 2009 - 9:33 PM
                                                                                                                                                                          It says,"

                                                                                                                                                                          Oh, So you're ganging up on me now...Cyber-bullying anyone?

                                                                                                                                                                          Scott, I am a sincere practitioner of this path, and I feel I deserve better than this. If you want to talk sense and get some intent to see more than just *one* point of view here, and quit taking sides, in some desperate attempt to secure popularity and status, then perhaps we can have a conversation. Otherwise, its pointless, and I'm not going to continue this dialog. As I can see your only intent is to maneuver me into a position of having to take blame.... Seems to be a game folks here enjoy. Maybe your supposed softening was just a ruse?

                                                                                                                                                                          anyway, i thought you said you are/were "cleansing" and not to be holding things over my head.

                                                                                                                                                                          "clutch it like a cornerstone/otherwise it all comes down/terrified of being wrongultimatum prison cell/saturn ascends/comes round again/hang on or be/humbled again" -tool "I guess you checked your sense of love at the door."

                                                                                                                                                                          And

                                                                                                                                                                          "I guess you checked your sense of love at the door. "

                                                                                                                                                                          ""PS-if anyone wants me to respond to Nathan (today's only?), please say so or ask. Thanks "

                                                                                                                                                                          what's with you Scott?

                                                                                                                                                                          looking for back-up/approval/support to go after me and cyber-bully me off the board now? "

                                                                                                                                                                          YOU'RE 'with me' is what.-wtF are you talking about 'off the board? You have NO CLUE what you've been involved with all the while...(but you didn't mind)

                                                                                                                                                                          Hey sicko, you are no more RUoW ANYthing-maybe animal-speak. I know now, just a matter of time-at least I can start a new thread imminently about removing you, you unloving lying, lazy, unmoving guilt-tripping, blaming heartless power-leeching woman-hating psycho FUCK

                                                                                                                                                                          love
                                                                                                                                                                          Scott
                                                                                                                                                                          • Re: More Lucifill

                                                                                                                                                                            Thu, November 12, 2009 - 11:21 AM
                                                                                                                                                                            A dragon hanging around who's not familiar with Anne McCafferty and not embracing her as EQUAL to RU' due to loving handling of dragons?

                                                                                                                                                                            What a sick fuck, that dragon-Nathan. Communing with the skies, sharing the poisoned Court-where he is-

                                                                                                                                                                            GET

                                                                                                                                                                            THE

                                                                                                                                                                            FUCK

                                                                                                                                                                            MOVING

                                                                                                                                                                            Until then, I request of the present Moderator to remove his Introduction at this Tribe (at least being a matter of WHO wrote it)-maybe take something from the author's site in the meantime-
                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks
                                                                                                                                                                            sinc.,
                                                                                                                                                                            S

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