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This place feels so hopeless when I see people still FIGHTING with one another! And, <-ยทยด..., or whomever you are, why are you starting shit with Luana? What the fuck is this?
"Luana,
With all due respect, You are a self-rightous TROLL.
There. How's that for FRee expression "
Are you triggered by her? Obviously you are. I guess you like to fuck with people and fight too, dontcha? Yeah, people try to pass off name calling as FREE WILL EXPRESSION, but that aint free will expression. I call bullshit. You are new here, Dearie. If you can't take the heat, get outta the kitchen. There was absolutely NO respect in that statement at all. What is your problem? Why don't you tell the truth, huh? How about, "I got triggered by what Luana said, I felt _____________whatever that was you were feeling, and maybe try to connect it with something in YOU, that's about YOU. Cause see, we don't need anymore members here really, that think it's ok to do what you are doing, IMO. People here are really struggling with their charge and what to do with it. Luana has a right to express her perspective on MJ, just like I do, and just like everyone else does. What is your fucking problem anyway? Dont you know how to take responsibility for yourself yet?
Yeah, c'mon over here and fight with me too, since that's what you came here to do. The rest of us have been in this tribe for 3 plus years, and many more here have been in this process for over 25 years. You haven't even read all the books yet, so, maybe you should finish them, eh?
"Luana,
With all due respect, You are a self-rightous TROLL.
There. How's that for FRee expression "
Are you triggered by her? Obviously you are. I guess you like to fuck with people and fight too, dontcha? Yeah, people try to pass off name calling as FREE WILL EXPRESSION, but that aint free will expression. I call bullshit. You are new here, Dearie. If you can't take the heat, get outta the kitchen. There was absolutely NO respect in that statement at all. What is your problem? Why don't you tell the truth, huh? How about, "I got triggered by what Luana said, I felt _____________whatever that was you were feeling, and maybe try to connect it with something in YOU, that's about YOU. Cause see, we don't need anymore members here really, that think it's ok to do what you are doing, IMO. People here are really struggling with their charge and what to do with it. Luana has a right to express her perspective on MJ, just like I do, and just like everyone else does. What is your fucking problem anyway? Dont you know how to take responsibility for yourself yet?
Yeah, c'mon over here and fight with me too, since that's what you came here to do. The rest of us have been in this tribe for 3 plus years, and many more here have been in this process for over 25 years. You haven't even read all the books yet, so, maybe you should finish them, eh?
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Sun, June 28, 2009 - 1:58 PMi feel your...offness
but these are only liteweights
dare to share, maybe care at tribe:
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Sun, June 28, 2009 - 2:34 PM" i feel your...offness
but these are only liteweights
dare to share, maybe care at tribe:
2012 uncensored..."
who are you?
Have you read the books? If not, why are you here? I've been in that 2012 tribe. It sucks ass over there. -
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Sun, June 28, 2009 - 2:52 PMpp: who are you? -
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Sun, June 28, 2009 - 4:33 PMThats none of your business. We aren't coming into your tribes passing judgment on you, are we? Or, are you just an alter profile for someone here who doesn't have the balls to be themselves? -
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Sun, June 28, 2009 - 5:28 PMi am here... -
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Sun, June 28, 2009 - 5:32 PMand please do not bore me
at my tribes only an idiot...brings
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Sun, June 28, 2009 - 6:02 PMhal?
this is not
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Sun, June 28, 2009 - 2:21 PMDaisy
I think that this tribe could use some more members at least with ones that have voices.
You're speaking your mind here, isn't that Free Will Expression, but not name calling? I fail to see your logic or rational with this being bullshit?
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Sun, June 28, 2009 - 2:33 PMYeah name calling is a part of it sometimes, but it doesn't heal anything, and she is just knee jerking without even bothering to get to know anyone that she is judging here. I am now and have been trying to tell you people that, your issues with me, or luana, or anyone else here is about YOU. NO, I don't see some of you getting this. Oh well, right? So, just keep throwing that light around, keep NOT taking responsibility for yourselves, I don't give a shit anymore. If you all want to stay stuck in hell, be my guest, but don't expect me to visit you there.
Are you triggered by what I said, WL?
What she said gave me a sinking hopeless feeling that, this is all there is in this community, and it's never going to happen that we come together because people think that free will expression means attacking people who trigger you. It just feels hopeless. I am pissed, hurt, hopeless, sad, and enraged. Hows that for telling the truth?
See, I know how to say how I feel about stuff. That feels real to me, not, "you are a troll." That sounds like denial to me, of true feelings in favor of rage's agenda.
Yeah, I did it too, but, I LEARNED from my acting out behavior. I didn't keep doing it, even when I saw that it didn't work for ANYONE. I aint sayin I'm perfect, because I'm not. Too many people here are aligned with this way of doing their "process", if that's what you want to call it. It sucks ass. It hurts. It doesn't heal anything, it perpetuates lies and hidden agendas. -
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Sun, June 28, 2009 - 6:47 PMDaisy
No, I don't find myself triggered by what you said.
I see you projecting the want/expectation for others here to own their feelings or attacks upon another, by stating " I am fucking mad at you because you triggered me about what you said about such'n such". I think it would be approperiate if you started to walk your own talk.
What was it 3 or 4 weeks ago from another tribe and you accused me of being a total asshole. I didn't hear you say " Robert, I am very fucking angry at you because of that thread you projected to such'n such and as a result it triggered me to think you're being a total asshole"
In my opinion, what you stated at the beginning of this thread with Sasha sounds perfectly legitimate and your challenging her ambievelent intent. I don't have an issue with that.
Another issue that concerns me is just because someone else is stating blaming rage with typed words, you and Luana make the projection " you wouldn't be attacking her here if you've read all the RUOW books or you'd see that this repetitive name calling doesn't heal anything.
I don't see how from one having read all the books this is relevent. ? I haven't read the last book, but I have read in a previous book where it states, " Guilt and blame, pride and shame are all imbalances around the search for self-acceptance"
Anyways, Daisy, I would like to acknowledge your last posting of Sun, June 28/09-2:33pm and would like to thank you for speaking your truth. I will say that your line about throwing light around seems a little far fetched.
Robert-W.L.
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Mon, June 29, 2009 - 9:08 AMI would also like to add for the record.
I'm getting very fed up Daisy with your total unconditional support for Luana and shit that she spurs out, like as if she's got some fucking divine gift or right to do it !
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Mon, June 29, 2009 - 10:23 AMWhy, are you jealous because I don't support you in the same way? -
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Mon, June 29, 2009 - 10:25 AMWow, I really trigger people, don't I? All I have to do is say what I think and feel, and then I am the enemy. Great! Love it! See, people did the same thing to Luana. Can't own their shit, gotta blame someone, especially the mother parts. Whatever. I don't care anymore. -
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Mon, June 29, 2009 - 10:29 AMWL, I understand your need to challenge the things I say. I am glad that you are connecting to the charge you hold around things I say. Just try not to give me your power, ok? I don't want it.
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Mon, June 29, 2009 - 3:43 PMHere, you again with the Mother parts.
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Mon, June 29, 2009 - 7:02 PMDaisy, You want talk about being triggered, Who got triggered to create this thread? and now you want to turn the tables.
Yep, I decided to leave your private tribe where you get to make your own rules, if, where and when you see fit. Here its a little different.
Now, I can see why another man here, also chose to leave that exclusive tribe of yours.
Uma, Southpaw, Semele, you ladies can have your private discussions there once again, without my involvement, now all Daisy has to do get Luana in there with that tribe. That sure as hell ain't likely to happen now is it, especially with current members and their previous gaps with Luana?
Yeah, Daisy, you want to harp upon the subject of me potentially fucking with you on your private tribe and if I do you'll threaten to banish me, but its certainly approperiate for you to call me an total asshole, but if I do the same, you'll acuse me of not respecting you & give me the boot. How do you like the mirrors in your fucking face for a change? You don't get to play god on this tribe yet,with those power plays.
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Mon, June 29, 2009 - 11:21 PMUma, Semele someone has brought something to my attention about my previous post in reference to mentioning your names there.
I want to apoligize for mentioning your names there, I Had no business doing that.
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Mon, June 29, 2009 - 11:54 PMI would also like to mention Southpaw.
It has been brought to my attention that I'm leaving false impressions of her and the other 2 persons I mentioned. This is true and also not processing unmoved blaming rage.
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 10:23 AMW.L., I am glad that you are re-reading posts so that you can move your charge. That said, I would like to explain something to you. The difference between right-action and acting out while in a triggered state.
If we move enough charge to see the twists of unlovingness in what is challenging us, our wills can then operate uninhibited by self doubts and guilt reversals. Am I in reversal with this thread? No. I feel no self doubt or guilt attached to my expressions here.
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 10:28 AM"Another issue that concerns me is just because someone else is stating blaming rage with typed words, you and Luana make the projection " you wouldn't be attacking her here if you've read all the RUOW books or you'd see that this repetitive name calling doesn't heal anything."
That isn't what I said at all. I don't make assumptions based solely on how much you've read of the books or how long you've been doing so. That's Luana's thing, not mine.
What I said was, if you had no charge, she could not trigger you. I said, look within to heal what comes up for you around what she says to you. Move it out, then take another look.
This is what I did, this is what the books say, and if you've read the books and understand them, you'll know that what I say is true.
I didn't make this up. Read your books again.
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Tue, June 30, 2009 - 10:31 AMAnd repetitive name calling DOESN'T heal anything, it causes more pain. But hey, some people need those kinds of triggers. There are no rules, after all. But if that's how you want to play, you also have to be willing to accept the consequences, because it escalates. The name calling sometimes gets worse with each round. Are you telling me that that's ok with you? That you don't mind if people target you with name-calling? -
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 11:47 AMDaisy
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 12:22 PMWhat are you talking about? Am I not quoting your very words? What? You want to shove some responsibility down my throat while avoiding your own?
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 4:31 PMI can own my power plays, can you?
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Sun, July 5, 2009 - 5:44 PMYou should talk, Daisy
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Re: What tha fuck IS going on here, anyway?
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 4:42 PMI see you as twisting things.
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Tue, June 30, 2009 - 5:18 PMYour the one who keeps emphasizing that its me and the other people that have had gaps with Luana and we if just read the books, those that are of an alignment with me and my position towards Luana, We should just be seeing her as this great divine piece of the Mother, that my attacks or anyone else's upon her are unjustly, but she has total guale in your mind to spew it out, to those she sees fit and can do no wrong in your eyes. Daisy I have seen your previous posts about reading the books, Luana's thing is also your thing.
I think you live in a fantasy world!
You wanna talk about who triggers who, it works both ways.
I am confronting you with the aspect dual respect, remember this is not your private tribe or yours to dictate of what or what will not be tolerated here. If I could call you a total asshole here on this tribe and the difference here is I don't have be forced to stand up back against the wall, by you or Nathan to be threatened to be removed here.
Luana
a person has brought something to my attention in reguards to other women from another tribe that I mentioned from yesterday where I gave the impression that they were talking about you behind your back. I would like to withdraw that projection.
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