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I was recently denied access to Mothers Place, because the moderator of that tribe accuses me of being a Mother Hater because I give Luana put down remarks. I do not see Luana or Daisy as representing the parental part of being the Mother, although they claim to be. I'm accused of being a Mother hater because I give back what's being thrown my way. That to me is total bullshit !
I plan to spend less time here.
I plan to spend less time here.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 11:41 AMthankyou for this
i am being accused as being a mother-hater and i refuse to allow this type of "process" to empty this room with projected hatred
in the RIGHT USE OF WILL
WE ARE ENCOURAGED TO EXPRESS OUR HATRED FOR THE FATHER AND MOTHER AS A MEANS OF UNDERSTANDING OUR ORIGINAL CAUSE
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AS SOON AS SOMEONE OPENS THEIR MOUTH HERE, WITH THEIR UN-EVOLVED ESSENCE SPEAKING ABOUT THIS GAP, THEY GET SILENCED BY THESE BITCHES CLAIMING TO BE SUPERIOR BECAUSE THEY LOVE THE MOTHER!
this is the very guilt that forced the manifested spirits to deny their hatred of the brutality they were born into
these voices are the voices of guilt and want you to retreat so they can continue to shove guilt down the throat of newcomers! if those of us who are witnessing this go away, we have allowed guilt to rule this site and leave all newcomers at prone to their merciless attacks!
i don't see these women doing much except for laying in wait to shame those who are courageous enough to speak from the un-evolved places we still have within us. I do not wish to re-imprint the un-evolved parts of me by judging myself as wrong for wishing to express my relative awareness. To make anyone wrong for not "knowing" everything there is to know about this gap, as these women do, is cruel, abusive, presumptive and aggressive. "Mother" does it by showing you her backside and showing up to align with those women who hate in ways that triggers them into pushing their point of view upon others. I do not except them as anything other than women who feel for the Will and are aware that the Will is getting blamed and shamed and abused - they feel this so strongly that they do not, or are not willing to relate to the other parts of God as equally important, as in heart - lost heart! why do you suppose heart daughter will not speak here? why she must still hide in the darkness? and lets stop with the hating purple daughter as a solution, daughter comes in all colors and is waiting for a little love to open space for her.
they would throw the baby out with the bath water just to get into a position where they could kill with impunity
that's what i feel from them here....they would kill me if they could get away with it....and they justify this by simply labeling me purple daughter as if that is the solution to the gap - get purple daughter!
to me they show themselves as lost heart that believes the mother is just a victim - however, they also know that the perpetrator becomes the victim, becomes the perpetrator. So, as long as you are looking for a scapegoat as a solution to the cause, you are just another psychopath looking to kill! no mother love, no father love, just the Will to kill
this is why very few voices come to speak in this room, because the Father hater's are on a rampage thinking they are contributing to some form of justice, when all they are doing is shooting at anyone that doesn't suck up to their bigotry and hatred.
don't let them force you out of this conversation
i know it hurts
i'm in pain as i write this
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i can't stand to leave hatred and bigotry as the only voice left in the room!
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 12:17 PMI was judged and cast out from Mother's place as well for similar reasons. i was charged with 'bullying mother'. I sought to present my case to defend my truth from being misunderstood, but the "mother" there, declined to hear me out. I feel as though she blamed me and singled me out as causing the 'trouble' there, and even seems to feel I tried to somehow hack in to the place. I have no interest in going where I am not welcome, and have more integrity than that.
I don't believe the mother that speaks there speaks for the Parental Part. I believe she speaks for the 'relative awareness' (to cop andora's handy term) of a few there who identify with mother essence and have created a private club for themselves... which is fine, but call it is: Fragmented points of view who are trying to occupy a place of "leadership" that the parental part of the Mother actually *should* have, but are unwilling to own this about themselves and speak as equals with the rest of us. Mother hater is about like calling someone a communist back in the fifties or calling someone a "nigger-lover' in the bible beating old South. Its a good way to try to ruin someone's reputation, and only serves the purposes of destruction. -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 12:59 PMYo, Luana! Check yer messages! I sent you an invite to the Women of RUoW tribe. I sent you the wrong invite yesterday. Oh, and I'm replying to you in Mother's place, so that we can have an untainted discussion if we want to.
I love you!
And thank you for everything! For helping me like you have, and for being my friend. I will NEVER betray you.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 1:08 PMEVERYONE is a fragment, even if you think you are parental. That's the difference between me and the rest of you assholes; I KNOW this, but you all are still positioning. Hahahahahahahaha!!! Stupid fuckers! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
WEEDWEEDWEEDWEEDWEEDWEEDWEEDWEEDWEEDWEEDWEEDWEEDWEEDSMOKESMOKESMOKESMOKESMOKEPUFFPUFFPUFFPUFFPUFFPUFFPUFFWAKEANDBAKEWAKEANDBAKE! yOU ALL NEED TO GET STONED! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
ME AND THE REST OF MY NIGGERS ARE GONNA HAVE THIS PLACE TO OURSELVES ONE DAY! Just as soon as people get over their guilt around having you useless pieces of shit here taking up space and denying everyone else their truth! Hahahahahahahahaha! I've released mine, and I now understand that none of you, Andora, WL, Nathan, are parentals, only guilt reflections. You aren't real! Hahahahahaha! How do you like me now???? Have at it, deniers. Hate me all you want, you can't hurt me, you stupid Mother-Fucking-Mother-Haters! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 1:54 PMThank You Daisy, more than You can know.
I CONSIDER THIS AS A RESCUE ! : )
These peranas here on this site need to just be iceolated from others in the ruow comminity,
they will eventualy turn on one another if there isnt any sane and loveing essence around for them to feed on.
I went to that new site and took a look around now there i could feel alot safer....I will go there and i will feel good about telling the truth....there are too many skitzed out ruow babys, blackmailers and snitches here.....Looks like there are some real ADVANCED and EVOLVED ruow Ladys there.
and OF COURSE I LOVE MOTHERS SITE
Who ever that wonderful person who calls herself Mother is.....I recognize Her as just that !!! in fact i HOPE She is the Mother of EVERYTHING....She is JUST the Mother that i always wanted....and She Loves Me too....She Loves Me too Daisy...*tears*
How precious does that Grace appear from One so Lovely as Her ?
Thanks Daisy
I Love You
Oh Yeah,
(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((())))))))~~~~~~~~~~ ere.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 1:57 PMYou too, honey, you too.
You know the Mother's there at that sight. You are one of us, honey.
Love,
daisy
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 2:17 PMDaisy,
I don't smoke weed, I don't feel the need to kill and numb my Will with that form of escape. You want deny me access to Mothers Place, so be it.
Andora, Nathan, thanks for speaking your 2cents worth here, I agree with much of what you're saying.
It would be interesting to discover what Mother God really thinks of these two Heart Duaughters claiming to be parental parts of the Mother.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 2:22 PMNo thanks, tastes like SHIT! Hahahaha! Now, go talk to Andora and jerk off all over her tits! You know you want to, and you know she would let you! -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 2:24 PMAnd hey, you can't fool me. I know you don't even HAVE a will! It left you! The parts you didn't deny, anyway! That's why no one can FEEL you, asshole. Good luck staying alive without it! Same goes for Nathan and Andora, motherfuckers! AAHHH hahahahahaha! -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 8:05 PMDaisy'
only you and Looney Luana choose not to feel me. Say how does it feel live off the the crumbs of the Father warriors, wacko-beserk chick !
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 2:25 PMI do smoke weed sometimes. I used to get stoned every day. Now only on certain special occassions do I partake. I guess i don't think there is anything special or mystical about weed as opposed to any other substance. Its just getting stoned. Sometimes it helps one to access to different dimensions, sometimes it just makes one paranoid and fried out.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 2:35 PMDaisy : ) : ) : )
WAY TO GO BABE !
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 2:44 PMLuana and Daisy,
so you guys are posting here, for some reason, your anger and laughing superiority to people Daisy thinks aren't real and you think are simply mother haters?
Do I have that right?
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 2:46 PMAnd who are you? Worm? Got any courage to face me as yourself? I am sure that you don't, so I have nothing to say to you either.
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ADDICTION
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 2:50 PMaddiction comes in all shapes and sizes as far as i can see....very interesting indicators of polarization
from my experience studying addiction, each type of spirit group has it's special form of addiction
-fried heart usually smokes something
-body loves the booze
-spirit loves the hallucinogens and intellectual control through illusionary caste systems
will wants it all up and in every orafice but can't get enough through prostituting itself, would probly overdose if it had enough said substance, but get caught up with crime and violent people
these are big generalizations
and a very interesting way to see different forms of polarization
true heart is able to find a personal balance with consumption, once it deals with the panoply of addictions that belong to their own self or others.
NO ONE IS UNSCATHED BY ADDICTION
SO YOUR ATTEMPT TO CHANGE THE TOPIC HERE DAISY THROUGH PERSONAL ATTACKS ABOUT THE IMBALANCE OF OTHERS
IS JUST A WAY OF DIVIDE AND CONQUER INTERFERENCE WITH LOVE THAT IS ATTEMPTING TO BOND HERE
WE ARE AGREEING THAT WE WISH TO BE INCLUDED
YOU ARE THREATENING TO LEAVE BECAUSE OF US AFTER ADMITTING YOU WOULD CAST US OUT
GO AHEAD AND LEAVE
WE NEED TO OPEN SPACE FOR MORE LOVE
NOT THIS OLD AND TATTERED PATTERN YOU ARE ADDICTED TO DAISY
I will definitely share space with you, luana and mother here, i am interested in your honest opinion/pov
but the polarizing and sarcastic insults are not helping one bit
i want to know what you think about lost heart
or are we too dumb to notice that your comments are meant as a demonstration of lost heart?
with oodles of love for us as your intent to simply teach us a lesson for not being as evolved as you - as lu claims is her intent?
i don't know these things i'm guessing about you
but your words are only a good demonstration of what WL is complaining about
you have offered nothing here except to verify his observation of your groups input!
lost heart is so angry for being left out
it wants to go for vengeance
over understanding
i get it
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 8:08 PMThe later part of your paragraph, Nathan has been my experience with weed, I choose not to use it. Daisy probably frys the hell out her braincells with daily usage.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 2:33 PMYou dont' act like you know it. You act like you think you should be on top and you talk like it too.
So I guess, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then by your logic, its a...
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 2:47 PMShut up Nathan.... You were soooo stupid to polorize to this Andora spook....
She helped you blow your cover and now you are a ruow leper, just like her.
If you were realy aware of the damage she helped you trap yourself in.....
you wouldnt be so nice and agreeable with her.
She talks too much and rambles too much, like scott....
and people are tiard of reading her babble on and go back on herself every other sentance.
NATHAN !! FIGURE IT OUT DORK !!!
SHE DIDNT REALLY EVEN READ THE BOOKS THROUGHLY ENOUGH TO POST ON THESE FORUMS
You just jumped on her pov cause she appeared to be helping you crusify Daisy.....
and now you are stuck with the bitch....it will be interesting to see how you pull yourself out of this one...
.im sure you are even NOW starting to figure out how she has worked you into this corner...
GOOD LUCK getting out of it without her turning all this on you, and, black mailing you with the info she gathered from you in private, like you WATCHED her do to me....but STILL went past the warnings..... in your zeal to get an allie against Daisy.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 2:56 PMThanks for spelling this out so clearly, Mama. Nathan never had any intent to connect with me. He never had intent to "bridge" with me, as he likes to say. He just wanted to keep me alive enough, to keep me hooked in enough on the promise that he wanted to connect and heal with me, to abuse me and throw his hatred at me and project all his mommie hatred on to me. I never had a chance with him at all. I feel tricked by unloving light once again.
I have released the guilt that says I need to help these assholes. I am seriously experiencing a VERY expansive feeling at this moment, a REAL feeling of freedom from care or concern about anything any of these liars has to say. Thank you for helping me figure it out, Luana. -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:05 PMthat's not true, Daisy. I do want to bridge with you, even still. you just don't seem to understand what bridging means. It doesn't mean me adopting your point of view and denying my own. -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:10 PMI don't know what you're talking about you never had a chance with me.
A chance for what? You have the same chance with me that anyone else here has, a chance for connection. Its you who have dropped me for precisely the reason that I won't drop my own point of view completely in favor of yours, I still keep holding the space and trying, but you keep fucking dropping me and I am still here trying so I don't know what the hell you are talking about. What other kind of chance are you hoping for? -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:12 PMI am no liar, and you ought to care about what I have to say if you have any fucking sense at all. -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:17 PMAs far as I can see its the other way around, its I who never had a chance with you.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:18 PMWhy Nathan? Why do you need to me to adopt your pov so badly? Don't you have acceptance for it yourself?
I accept my own pov, it's mine and valid and can exist side by side with anyone else's pov. This is what you never got about me, Nathan.
You do not care to bridge with me Nathan, I don't believe you. You have never supported me, not like I did you when I agreed to give you a chance as moderator. I just kept giving you chances, over and over again, reaching out in love and compassion, only to have you shit all over my efforts. Fuck you right back, denier. -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:25 PMWhere the fuck did I say I need you to adopt my point of view?
What I desire is for us to find the place where our points of view balance with one another.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:28 PM"I accept my own pov, it's mine and valid and can exist side by side with anyone else's pov."
No I don't get that about you Daisy. I don't get that about you at all. I think you are triggered by other's points of view that don't agree with yours and have adopted assasination of them as a solution to this. -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:31 PMAs She SHOULD BE !
Daisy gots the keen Mother Eye.....
She SHOULD be very leary of all you Mother posers.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:32 PMNathan, I will never be in alignment with the pov that you currently hold. I have evolved out of that pov, and have been trying to present what I have learned in place of the hate and guilt that you currently still believe in. This is why we can't balance between us. Until your pov evolves enough to see me for who and what I am, we never will. -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:33 PMTo a degree you are right, Nathan. I want to assassinate every mother hating, mother denying word I find in this place. -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:37 PMI won't agree with the wrongness I feel in your position, WL's position, and Andora's position, especially in relation to me and Luana. So this is all pointless, because I will never be able to look through those same eyes again with any degree of acceptance.
I accept that this is your pov, but I cannot adopt it as my own. Your pov has a right to be, just as everyone else's does, but I do not own them as mine. It is yours. Mine is different. it's supposed to be because you are not me and I am not you. Do you get it now? -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:43 PMI love the view from where I am sitting right now! Don't you all love yours too? Do you not love the eyes you have been given to see with? So why do you need my approval or acceptance? When you can accept yourself fully as I do myself, even your mistakes and misunderstandings, then I will know that you "get it".
My relationship with Luana isn't based on me needing to align with her pov. It's based on a knowing that I can't explain, a rightness that I feel in her, in her words and actions. We share essence, so it's easy for me to love her and feel her. I seriously moved my rage in response to her. I wish the rest of you would do the same.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 8:13 PMDaisy
has nothing else better to do than to fabricate these sexual scenarios to define me with, like accusing me of jacking off while speaking to her on the phone. I have had plenty of opportunities to get laid you ugly flower. Go fuck your mothers cunt ! -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 8:22 PM"..ok, well too bad for you."
Right 'Nathan'-now just remove the 'you and me' part of it OK? 'Process police' again? Need to repeat, huh? And at that clip, that speed.? doesn't mean it's YOU! But it DOES add up to be speeDOH as in psycho-mind to the Unrescue. Where's the real you, duh?
So wtf DO YOU KNOW about what is POLICE or NOT?! Your whole schpiel and schpew is what it is TO SOME, schpiel and schpew-if that's how you wanna be known. As God works me back in, I'm doing what I was originally: CUTTING OFF THE LINEAR CRAP! GET READY!
O, and thanks for a thread that really took off today WL
Hey, know anything about Ashama any further? It would help if people knew stuff about the origins of this forum. Discreetly of course. -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 8:52 PMWhatever Scott,
It occurs to me you've completely ignored the contents of my last three posts, writing them off as mental as if that's a proper response and you need not actually address any of it... meanwhile you chastise me for not taking the time to digest yours. I don't need to spend a lot of time processing to realize that's not my cup of tea.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:24 PM"..and rambles too much, like scott.... "
Give it up, Luana, you're SO in denial of my content and you 'move it' all towards dissing and other heartlessnesses
Mother's Place will take you in-always-but your denial here and of the books is causing major problems-just like old times, 'Changeling'..You guys....just CANNOT opt for the hate-ploys anymore!
Not once have you gone into WHY I MIGHT ramble-yes I'm guilty a bit yet-
and from what I gather, I don't HAVE to love this denial of yours! You go 'past it' then it's you who's hating. Live, active hating Luana-the definition of the stuff, not the expression of it to healings and all...You misunderstand the books, for sure. You haven't really read them. Not many said anything because your capacity to education wasn't clear. I mean, the books themselves (God within) has kept you from understanding parts of them)
. Just making it clear to other people victim to your hatreds. Btw I've NEVER seen you act so childishly as you have been with Andora, and this is YEARS LATER! Wow, regression. That's more clear too, if it creeped around hardly noticeable before.
For your question Andora-seemingly interrupted a BIT AHEM!-I just don't have much to say on the mother-daughter gap....at ALL....I lean towards working with these Essences and can help describe basics, so...talk more later. My life situations haven't allowed for much experience there for that matter.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:29 PMScott said " just makeing it clear," ROTFLMAO !!!!!
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Daisy
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 5:28 PMsaid:
"Thanks for spelling this out so clearly, Mama. Nathan never had any intent to connect with me. He never had intent to "bridge" with me, as he likes to say. He just wanted to keep me alive enough, to keep me hooked in enough on the promise that he wanted to connect and heal with me, to abuse me and throw his hatred at me and project all his mommie hatred on to me. I never had a chance with him at all. I feel tricked by unloving light once again"
i will witness Nathan here daisy because we had conversations about his disappointment that scott came to attack him just as you two were about make some bridges....
i want everyone to know this as i was a witness
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Re: Daisy
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 6:05 PMAndora
"i will witness Nathan here daisy because we had conversations about his disappointment that scott came to attack him just as you two were about make some bridges....
i want everyone to know this as i was a witness"
This can be so sad if we all don't handle this right. I won't let MISunderstandings flow here (as concerns my name and actions). Nathan and Daisy were 'busy' a LONG time before I showed my face, as well as after I began to post here. My intervening where it began (past, present?) to 'bug' Nathan was ONLY over the moderation-the serious stuff that issue is about-. That ONE subject is not to be confused with Nathan converting the SAME levels of such rages and 'conversations' and 'bridging attempts' with Daisy and others with myself! How obvious the conversion, see? Yet the ISSUE? Now, he was 'righteousness' everywhere. Now he was POV. Now he was bigot and all this.
Nathan shows up today after a hiatus. One 'clue' that's a little off is his seeming to interrupt-but this may not be universally recognized. NOW there's more.
There was no 'attacking' from ME! It's all right here on the forum somewhere with few exception (erased posts?). He would come to a point in his delerium and at one of these points I began to fire back. But not before ALL THE BASICS were clear-at least to me-. There's the rub, Andora and there's the part(s) you have not really read here first.
As far as 'witnessing' myself about Daisy and Nathan-I see he can't help a good portion of this and this spot is also where Daisy must 'blame him' b/c she IS dealing with his projections that are not fully matured yet. She IS right in fending half of that off which one sadly has to watch: a woman working it for a guy to bug off despite having such open-heart and all this b/c she DOES smell falseness.
But Andora, Nathan hasn't shown much interest here-whatever the reason, that he could be wrong or too immature of something at this time! He MORE than hung around 'holding his ground'. He slammed almost all of us so hard, well-a break is always good-
Pls notice Semele being gone, who handled VERY WELL the same levels here-plus she said she had a serious virus! Y'know, she was AGHAST of Nathan time and again but Nathan would just jump on in as if he KNEW the process! He DID NOT! He'd jump on woman after woman...no breadth of perspectives...
Now look, the rest of us that were here 'know' all this and certainly stay away...won't be repeated again and again unless hopeful maturties come along-real ones explaining...more But,...
Even were we in healing Purple split of whatever the upper stuff here, we still need a lot more peace and 'blessings' and less rage. 'This guy' SO RAGED the whole Summer....(what do you expect but me 'cleaning it up' some until I move (it) along again)?
anyway thanks
later
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Re: Daisy
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 6:13 PMScott,
I don't agree with your judgments of the situation with me and Daisy back there. I don't think you really understand what you were seeing there. You have been very critical and negative towards Luana at times, and I have usually always taken her side, but now I am beginning to understand and see where your problems with her are and I have sympathy and compassion for you. I wish you could do the same.
Anyway, you don't understand what you were seeing, I WAS under attack and you came in to help finish me off so to speak. I know you don't see this, but I do, and I couldn't allow it to go down that way. Would not have been self-loving, that's all. If you actually allowed yourself to feel it, you'd know exactly what I mean.
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Re: Daisy
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 6:29 PM(About Nathan and me) "That's all." ??
Well OK, some 'feelings' on it, now and then, briefly-only-
Heat-rages happening and things said though, 'you know what to do'
We're not going to 'buy' anything between each other until forgivenesses are found and accomplished anyway we work it; and it's not the same as the Fire Dragon thing, between males.
I wonder if you and I can even share this forum, the shit back there is so thick including 'you started it'
which you are loathe to even START admitting-all that defensiveness as just stated now, is always a SIDE anyway (if it's there with you, it's always there with others).
To heal that within is what needs to be done first. You got busted, MAYbe me too but there's nothing beTWEEN about it.
You can't talk at the same space as me, long story short. Try as you might. You have no call WHAT my understandings are or are not about it, we're at vastly diff. planes/places of LIFE. The heat would fill in before this 'Communion' occurred. If we only have Gap in common, would you REALLY 'face that', or is that only for those who don't have much Will? You chose that, one can tell.
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Re: Daisy
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 6:42 PMIts your judgment we can't share the same forum, as it was Daisy's that we can't unless I be properly submissive to her and negate my own truth which is UNself-loving and I can't do. I have always been about bringing points of view together here.... bridging. All you're trying to do is get back in Daisy's good graces by slamming me. Hell its worked before, maybe it'll work again!
If you want to deny the validity of my approach, go ahead, but it doesn't negate the validity for me. Busted, whatever. that's your nonsense. You're not the process police, and if you're going to play that game, then this conversations over, buddy. You get it on some levels I don't. I get it on some levels you don't. I know you don't understand what you were looking at. Its freaking obvious, so whatever. -
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Re: Daisy
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 6:47 PMThe negativity on women thing is your judgment too. You are seeing it as that only because you don't seem to get that anything said is not a final assessment, it represents a constant state of flux in which theirs a complete openness and non-judgmental loving presence behind it all. You're just attempting to freeze that flux into a state of denial.... that only makes it have to become MORE seemingly negative, thus seeming to "prove" the judgments. Not helpful. -
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Re: Daisy
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 6:52 PMAnd its your own loss and your own problem if you don't want to read my incredibly generous apology... No skin off my back.
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Re: Nathan's Mental again
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 7:37 PM"That's all." ??
There you go, Luana (or anyone)-a nice big expose on what anyone would mean by being trapped in a reflection. It's blame-guilt here (using Nathan. In reality I'm just talking to myself) where 'he' responds that quickly w/o much digestion at all. All along too. Only MIND is doing the talking. Natural controls MIGHT'VE come up between us in the beginnings of this phenomenon but they didn't or were gone past-with he AS Moderator too, mind.
No Colors, let's imagine. The Mind as unevolved, locked in competitions, survivals, threats and surface-understandings. That's the 'linear stream' there. That's what the Will could Kiss Off. Yet not one shred of this recognition from this 'other part of me'! It SEEMS to be saying something. It mirrors...but of course as FRAGMENT of one: the Mind's. It thinks...this is the only and necessary response. Shallow.
Th Mind has a relationship with Body-and Body types have been said to ALSO be shallow-so who and why is anyone speaking Shallow? HOW is such shallowness, insisting upon it, POSSibly expect to 'talk' with one of depth?
.This Mind then....demands the response. It doesn't CARE if Response actually happens: it was just 'programmed' to seek SOMEthing of the Will, the great dark Ocean it once shown its Orange Light upon...Yknow: shallow. Maybe even the wrong Color for an Ocean, yes? Well, what WOULD Will do....if such host surrendered its MIND to WILL???
The only time it really SEEMS to be saying something is when it's 'brokenhearted'. Nothing else. Great for a woman who'd like to 'rescue a man' sure. Wait, but not AS MIND! In a MIND'S venue! Anyway: bad for the Will-hello" the POINT. Of course I choose not um, enlarging upon it, dear Will
But so, I would spend half-hour after 'hour in a headache dealing with this. Imagine a person being ONLY Mind. Yuck. Lots of Lost Stuff?
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Re: Nathan's Mental again
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 8:02 PMScott,
For the record, I'm not reading your post here past the first sentence, so you just lost yoru audience of one, again.
judging my speed as being the wrong speed as though you know, that's all the further i need to go,,,. I follow my own flow, not yours. still playing "process police" i see... ok, well too bad for you.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:24 PMLuana,
Its not about getting an ally against Daisy. Its simply that *I* was being crucified and Andora helped me to remain present here by advocating my truth as she would advocate ANYONE'S truth, even Daisy's. DAISY is the one who chose to take the tack of HATING and trying to crucify HER for this as revenge because she is hellbent STILL on getting rid of and discrediting my voice here.... That's why she welcomed Andora initially, cause she was hoping for yet another ally in that, but Andora instead helped me remain a presence here simply through her indiscriminate kindness and love, and for that Daisy decided to try to crucify her. so SHE is the one setting it up as "kill or be killed" here, not US.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 2:41 PMDaisy,
you got some basic RUOW confusions in that post where you, for some strange reason, yell and claim to be superior to people you think are not real.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 2:51 PMWorm....do yourself a favor and loose the creepy, (yet very revealing) name, and, come back as another person.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:24 PMDaisy, I am CERTAINLY not the only One who has been just horrified by the way Nathan has treated You
We were wondering when you would finaly figure it out and say ENOUGH of this Mother battering.
But God Bless and keep Your BEAUTIFLY Mother Heart....
You went on and on with the jerk, BELIEVEING in Your BEAUTIFUL GENEROUS AND FORGIVEING MOTHER HEART that You could save Him.
Heres the secret Babe,
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:31 PMLuana,
there is a part of me that would Fuck any woman here in a second.
but there is also a part of me that is aligned with the Highest Good, that will not have any sex that is not Loving and balanced
and these parts of me are at war... locked in a horrible horrible struggle.
and this war is being acted out right here, right now.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:34 PMWell, I guessYou wont be getting layed any time soon..... HERE IN HELL ! -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:41 PMI don't want to get laid, "here in HELL"...
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Re: Being accused and Blamed and played as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 3:49 PM"Scott said " just makeing it clear," ROTFLMAO !!!!! "
Dam', it's reading my posts when it said it wouldn't and doesn't. Going wordless to heal the Heart is such a BITCH with hags around positioning and raging and giving bad info to any and all Newbies. Love doesn't rule squat with her. She doesn't let it FLOW. Dam, and such a Womanly thing too, flow.,
NOT LUANA! She's burning hot, foiks. Better keep that candle burning- and all other GOOD fires.
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Re: Being accused and Blamed and played as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 4:03 PMI actually didnt read your confuseing post, i never do, i just scaned it like i always do....
the "makeing to clear," comment caught my eye, and cracked me up, thats all.
You saying something like that is like Angina saying that she always tells the truth.
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Re: Being accused and Blamed and played as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 4:11 PMBurning (her) body, that is. Addictions and other parasite-problems. Not to blame, just see that it's Fragmentation.Her Spirit sinks down nice and low for her to hump on and 'get all wrong' and she's flying! Like Daisy says SHE'S Flying today. Happy Trails.
But come on, there's only one way to Fly.
Does she care what's happening with her Fragmentation aBOVE her? They could be in hell. Temporary but still hell. Does SHE move as in run for her life?!
Nah, neater to type SHIT here.
Luana is no Mother; she is Main Body Fragmentation TO ME. We can support her WISHES to be Mommy all we bleeding feel like it but being Mommy is hard-ass work! This we're not seeing from Luana. She can be overworked from solely all the projections (she knows she doesn't have to 'do'). Distraught over losing all that warm Hawaiian heart, who knows.
Why all the FOOLING All the Frickin TIME?! Cause she herself doesn't Move-or that';s some big suckret we don't have to know, us Members.
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Re: Being accused and Blamed and played as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 4:18 PMGee Scott....sure glad nobody else can understand your rambeling prose eather....or, your retarted insults and assides might freek me out....but as it is....you are so wierd with the jumbled lingo, "scott speek," that nobody can even realy tell if you love me or hate me....nobody even answers you any more....notice ??
cant you find some shaman sites to ramble on instead of being here where nobody even reads your stuff?
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Re: Being accused and Blamed and played as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 4:18 PMO
It was just a crack-up huh?
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sorry so shaming to be at your level!!! UGH IT SUCKS!!!!
trippin on a CRACK
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SO silly of me!!!!
O YEA JUST KIDDING! UGH!!!!
SORRY! FORGET-ABOUT-IT!!! PLEASE!! ugh
bad Blue Sunday pour moi
phtooey splat! Friggin WAR!!!
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Re: Being accused and Blamed and played as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 4:20 PMYes, it's another lonely place
not knowing people enough
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Re: Being accused and Blamed and played as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 8:31 PMScott
This is true !
Daisy
Sex " without the pevert comments. When are you really gonna share here about your sex stuff, since its a place that you find so easy to move with, especially with your anal probing fetish agenda.
Oh WL you've missed so much, that you didn't say here. Maybe I didn't feel it was fucking relvant to share as it was already a given. Why the fuck should I say every little fucking detail to appease your want or need? Don't like the way I write here don't reply back, you and pickerhead Luana don't speak for the majoirity here with your " We & Us " comments. -
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Re: Being accused and Blamed and played as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 9:20 PMew.... yuck....
W.L. I raelly strongly share Daisy's and Luana's and others distaste for the way you keep driving so relentlessly at the sex stuff here, appropo of nothing... like its your only and forever focus. I don't like the way she, daisy especially, treats you and shames you for it and beats on your vulnerabiliity, and I just wish it would stop... I feel it just as though it were happening to me and I think its cruel, and hateful and I hate that cruetly, but still, at the same, something about the way you are here feels really gross, icky and disturbing at the same time and I can understand their reaction to it somewhat.... I also don't like the way you are to them either--anymore than I like the way they are with you, especially how you've been with Luana. I guess I could care less about Daisy, and I guess I don't see you as really even being all that mean to Daisy for the most part except where she's being so to you... and for the most part you seem to be being in your integrity with her and drawing a clear line, which I actually admire your ability to do,
but Luana is really a very sweet person underneath and I feel you've been really horrible to her in a way that is just over the top and its painful to me to witness this... I know she hasn't been nice to you either really exactly, but honestly, maybe you might ask yourself whether there is something to some folks reaction to your sexual focus, or not, and not take it out on them so hard for having it. Maybe THAT's your trigger, to look at what others are reflecting back to you about this focus.... I don't like the way you've been treated, but all the same, I want to see this heal. I am tired of the round and round with no understanding being found, and I don't blame them for wanting to run away from it, except that they are part of it and feeding it...
I mean, don't understand what makes you so damned persistent about this sexual stuff. I know you've rationalized its to get triggered and heal, but what in god's name makes you think you need to force a sexual conversation to "get triggered" and heal? I think this is some misunderstanding on your part. You have eight whole books of stuff to read, which is all related to God's sexual denials.... to get triggered and move emotions and heal, don't you? I mean holy crap for somoene like you, I would think that has to be HUGELY triggering! -
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Re: Being accused and Blamed and played as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 12:20 AMWell Nathan
My sexual context with the post you responded to was more to illustrate a point to Daisy. I really haven't talked about sexual stuff as of late. So you're saying you have an issue with me addressing my stuff from a sexual relationship level as I posted from the A Mans Dilemma thread, I recreated after Andora deleted the original thread?
I just don't understand why there can't be more awareness on the sex topic from a Kinsey perspective. I cheated and read the last page of Indigo and Spirit reemphasized the need to go into ones feelings about their sexuality. Why does it have to be or feel icky? Why can't it be discussed from neutral position? I know Karolina was the first to mention the term icky around it. Do most of have to carry so much sexual pain, hurt, guilt or shame to never want to see it looked into the discussion of it to being so hush, hush or taboo and then pressure or prevent me from exploring it, out in the open. If there's things I don't see about discussing it with my want, then its my denial, problem. I don't think there's enough talk of it from the books to get triggered by.
I have three good male friends in my life and are not into RUoW. All of them are in the same boat as me. Go figure? Like attracts.
I don't know about you, but since my sex life is non exsistant, perhaps by looking into on open form such as here that is available to produce more awareness, my want is to be triggered and for yourself as well to go into these feelings or ideas, preconceptions, misconceptions. I mean sure if the avenue to have an intimate relationship with a woman I could share and learn to grow with with this passion be there, then I would go that route to experience this, first hand.
I wonder if there are any women out there who had the unpleasant experience of being in the presence of a man who wanted to have successful sex and couldn't and was just left there to witness that mans tears of hurt from not being able to perform?
Despite a small few who have been willing to hear me out on the sex/relationship topic with open arms, I'm primarily intending to discuss or post my own experience with this issue, which seems to be more of where its at with being something that I can change or feel into.
I appreciate your position of stating how Daisy relates to me on the subject, I feel this to be true.As for my relating with Luana, you may find her to be a very sweet, kind person. She's supported me only once on an angry post that I put out. We all can be be sweet and kind when I/we want to be. If i deal with someone and there 95% of being a certain way, then by this I conclude what constitutes there person. I don't like the way Luana addressed you on the other thread recently for having a different opinion from hers. One can disagree with another, but why does there have to be condesending remarks made by her? This I find to be very fucking irritating ! When you come to a tribe like this don't you have a wanted desire to find an alignment with those that think or feel the way you do about the books, as complex as they are and hopefully to feel somewhat supported?
Worm, made a description of the way he saw Luana as being at the bottom of one of the threads just very recently. I find myself agreeing with his position towards her 100%.
Fuck Heart and his turn the other cheek ordeal, an eye for an eye is the motto I'm sticking with, even if the world gives me an undesirable reflection.
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Re: Being accused and Blamed and played as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 8:37 AMhi W.L.
Its not a "position" on how Daisy 'relates' to you, as n a position of m ind so much as a visceral and emotional reaction of pain.
Similarly my reaction to your sex focus is visceral/emotional.
I don't know what you mean by a "Kinsey" perspective. I do remember seeing the movie and it gave me a similar visceral/emotional reaction of disgust and being 'creeped out'. I think it is because of all the denial in the sexual energy of the movie, in the weird creeepy "scientiffic' interest in people's sexuality, and in the creepiness of the mass energy of people's sex in a state of denial that it studied.
As far as going into sexuality here and having 'sexual discussions' it feels creepy to me in a similar way. My take is that EVERYTHING HERE has a sexual element and I choose to be aware of that in my self. I respect what's not yet ready to come into conscious acceptance though and I am not going to force it.
As far as Luana goes, i guess I just need to reiterate think that your actions towards her go beyond merely standing your ground and defending your own truth. To me it seems like just plain beating on someone, cause they are vulnerable like you, and I have a similar visceral and emotional reaction to that as I would with her or Daisy or aD beating on you. A lot of people beat on Luana this way I have noticed. And tying this back into sexuality if you will, I feel these violent undercurrents are very present in people's denied sexuality that are coming out here but being acted out without much awareness, if you get me. Moving into these areas of denied sexuality seems like a very personal thing to me, and i don't feel anywhere NEAR that level of trust happening with people here at this point, even though the undercurrents are there anyway.
So my take is I would encourage you and anyone really to simply become more aware of what's happening with you in regards to stuff here and how you really feel about it. To me it seems like there is probably a lot more going on inside you that you are not even aware of that you could be paying more attention to, and i'm sure the same is true for most everyone. To me this is a much better approach than trying to force sexual denials into a light of scrutiny that doesn't feel good or loving. to me this is more what the books recommend. that we find compassion for ourselves in these areas first and foremost, and THEN move outwardsly towards connecting with others... otherwise we will simply keep reenacting our OC pain and givng more and more of our power to the unloving blueprint of creation.
this to me is the only real way to approach healing these areas, and the indigo book stresses indeed how desperately in need of our help these areas are, and i would even venture to say you were moved to look and "cheat" here because you have a direct link to the lost Will involved here.... but i think you have a lot of work to do in terms of really understanding what you can do to help.
Selah,
Nathan
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Re: Being accused and Blamed and played as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place, just for retailiating.
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 3:10 PMNathan
I feel much alignment with what Andora has said on another thread, Luana attacks me, I attack her back , Whammo, next thing I know I'm being accused of being a mother hater and that I have no business talking to Luana with those harsh words. I have read about power plays with the Will polarity from the orange book. To fabricate this kind of shit is simply self importance on her end and a way to lay guilt. Its twisted shit and it isn't fair to me. I tried to bridge contact with her along the lines of simular musical tastes, only to find my tastes condsended upon. I'm firm in my position towards Luana.
The " Kinsey " perspective according to the movie, is his attempt to have a deep look at it, bring it out into the open. You mention upon being creeped out by the movie concluding to the point in focus of the denial in the sexual energy with the movie. I would appreciate it if could give me two examples scenarios of this train of thought from the movie?
From the film there was a scenario where Kinsey and his closest colleague were brave enough to go outside the bounds of hetro sexuality and explore homo sexuality.The passion was there and then later on his colleague wanted to explore a sexual fling with Kinseys wife. They all agreed to let each person know the others intent, so there was no sneaking around. Sure there were jealous feelings to be encountered.
I remember from the other thread in your resonse to Semele about the Touchy subject thread and you gave your explantion as to how you felt there. I don't see in any harm with that. You spoke your truth.I thought it was great that you did this. When you did say those things, did it trigger you at all?
I got triggered when I mentioned, about if any women had ever experienced the presence of a man crying because he was unable to get off during sexual intercourse.
Yours and mine focus are different here. I don't come across in speaking of sex stuff from a visceral position.
I do appreciate you speaking your mind here and what is important for you to speak about.
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Mon, September 28, 2009 - 5:32 PMi understand what you mean by the Kensington approach to sexuality - i saw the movie - i'm not creeped out by it - takes all kinds, right?
i also think you make very valid points about your point of view
i totally support you to bring up whatever you need to discuss -
as to what the response is....well...i haven't seen you as manipulative in this respect, but i just got here - don't know about daisy's insights, that is her's, right? taking criticism if part of rattling the self-doubt cage, for me. self-doubt is what those who are invested in undermining my point of view insist i should adopt in order to be a good and humble woman. this is a trap....i have residues of self-doubt - but have only resolved this by developing more self-acceptance for my particular brand of disturbance. an evolving perfection means we do not have to act like we are more evolved than we presently are. so your ability to feel that others are guilting and shaming yu rather than progressing the topic is spot on!
i find it interesting that you peeked at the back of Indigo - yet, apparently have a block about reading it
this is what i'm interested in examining
how about we post about the examples in the Indigo book that have to do with sexuality as you read it from the beginning - then you could apply your own scenario to what is triggering you there. i would be very present for that conversation. Last time i tried to re-read that book (only read it twice) i came unraveled and was unable to go any deeper, as i had big projects i felt essential to focus upon.
maybe it would be less traumatic if some of us supported your examination of this material by staying present as you report back about what is triggering you there - in this, some of us will be better able to bridge with you in understanding.
I'll dig my indigo book out (i'm spread out between 3 residences right now :}) and follow your quotes
with the holy hell flying over our heads right now, maybe this could get us moving forward in a way that feels productive
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Tue, September 29, 2009 - 9:27 AMHi Andora
Well, when I first read the introduction of Indigo,it stated that to continue with the rest of the book one would have to have done a fair amount of movement already, or wouldn't be able to understand it. With that I re-started with the first book. at present I'm on Heart Song for my 3rd read.
Thanks for willing to hear me out on this subject. Looking book on the scene from the movie "Kinsey" of where kinsey and his closest colleague feel the the passion to explore homosexuality. On the pretense of going there one could imagine what would be the ramifications for doing such? Kinsey was already married, society already looks down on this kind of behavior, more so back then, so to indulge would have to be done in private. Kinsey informed his wife of the encounter. What are her reactions to be? Is it different because he fooled around with a man, rather than a women? Maybe she feels deprived of affection that should have thrown her way? Perhaps since Kinsey and his buddy were off on a road trip that the opportunity presented itself to explore this desire passion, by being away from wife and family after a lengthy period of time, who knows?Perhaps Kinseys wife would be shocked to learn of this activity and even feel betrayed. Where lies theoath to be faithful to one another?
Shortly after Kinsey had told his wife of what had happened, Kinsey left the door open to his wife to explore some sexual passion ? She felt the desire to have a bout with Kinseys buddy of which she could enjoy. Perhaps Kinsey felt guilty for this action on his part and thought it would be only fair to let his wife share some fun with someone else. In the movie they portray Kinsey of not being too fond of the idea, but submissively accepts the choices that his wife has for their mutual friend. So often with men/ myself an action is taken and then later the feelings of what occured kicks in. Since society programs us not to feel, one is left to internalize the emotions at had, given the expectations,The duties of ourselves to others we might feel obligation with, the considerations for others, the interest of doing for the self that the self wants even if it challenges the lines of selfishness and or approperiateness.
Andora, I think its interesting you mention the self -doubt cage with exploring this subject .
When I get to Indigo, I will accept your offerer of exploring the sexual contents from there. It might be a while before that happens though.
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Re: Andora Luana Nathan and Process
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 10:37 AMDo I love you Luana? You have to ask? I mean, there's some clouds around the whole time, likened to drug-use. Likened to places we each have to move and that's that. You saw the last Final Resp. post...
finalresponsibility.wordpress.com/2...96
Other than that, the 'love you' thing is a mass of troubling projection anyway-it's not the 'style' these days. Desteni', for example. Why people don't appreciate new-agey talk-same thing.
So, it comes back to what you're really saying Luana: am I dedicated, through here enough, to SEND you regular love? It probably would go w/o saying-just the sending-hate level has had to stop,
You with N., have to take responsibility for just how hard and hungrily you jumped on my 'problem' here at home.
Nathan, that was a lot of rhetoric-a total swing within your post this AM. Speaks for itself (and STILL not meant to be directed at any others of course). You just mirror/mimic/convert/reverse things which has always been pointed out as needing Movement. With a few persons FULLY becoming robotic out there somewhere, your denial yet again pointed out here has been taking you for a free ride and others sure 'got it'. There's not much to discuss with such persons, see-the books brought out the necessary info here a long time ago. Or one can view the 'Needy' video from Desteni'. Just a matter of time before all others see your lack here. As more see it too, Eyes that have seen it for a LONG time are less....tired.
What did I REALLY walk into here after the empowering shaman training? What did I expose? Hey, I've been attending to it as naturally as I can.
Andora, I'm wondering, as you mentioned recently a shaman helping you, that it might not have been solely your book taken in by Luana and Co. that loosened up some frigidity. I haven't 'done' anything but presence still may be involved. Fresh from some shaman training to arrive here...some movement happened. Some 'spark' from the past too-maybe- but at least I'm different and as I hear many more things from you these days about you....well it's interesting and it's keeping my Ears perked. Like, this time when you were uh, 'held up' in the Middle East, (what month/y to what month/y?)-might be some parallels to consider.
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Re: Andora Luana Nathan and Process
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 10:54 AMHere's that 'Need Field' video
www.youtube.com/watch
and Desteni's homepage.
desteni.co.za/
Again, I'm not about bringing another Path into here; maybe I need a RU' Response about it! Seriously, it's weird, 'white people from Africa' handling a full blown Interdimensional Portal that reminds ME of even New Jerusalem, let alone the Will Polarity's Response to....RU'...(if you will). I'm not in a position to back them. Saving lives being what it is though....
Andora? I'd ask if I could. It's prob. a bit much for now.
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Re: Andora Luana Nathan and Process
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 11:16 AMScott,
Your assesment of me seems reductive.
I think my participation does speak for itself as being of value...
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Re: Andora Luana Nathan and Process
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 11:18 AMFor what its worth Scott, i have to say I appreciate the links to the destini videos you've shared and have watched a lot of the videos. I had trouble getting past certain aspects of it at first, the girls seemingly affected mannerisms and stuff, but I've come to expect that from such 'shamaniic' types and something told me to keep watching, and I intend to keep watching.... its undeniably profound stuff.
Later,
Nathan
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Re: Andora Luana Nathan and Process
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 11:27 AMMaybe reductive as in age?
Daisy, me, Worm and WL-about same age. Andora and Luana, older than that.
But Nick, Desteni people are your age Nathan. Tell us how you fare at their forum perhaps.
But ZERO 'training'....'you're not getting it'; instead you 'pop in' like a rat, 'bookless' and at internet which involves Light....
yadi yadi
Eagles love Bugs Rats Asura...and this they do with Quality
one deals with guilt, as said (the hardest trouble we're having...as well as blue-green gap)
such person that lets guilt fuel them-what happens to them?
What's underneath 'guilt', people? severe rage. As I bring that up at all for obvious enough reason and timing, what is the Motive in such guilt/rage?
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Re: Andora Luana Nathan and Process
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 11:35 AMOh, i see.... so you have a problem with acknowledging the value of someone's input who's younger than you, i.e. age-gap fears and threats. i get it. i get that all the time.... I was born at a time when God's Light was in a totally different state of evolution than when you were born and you're still stuck in some ways at the stage of evolution God's light was at when you were born, but you also have certain advantages there too. I get that. And no, I am not a rat, in the Chinese zodiac, I was born in the year of the dragon, haha! -
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Re: Andora Luana Nathan and Process
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Re: Andora Luana Nathan and Process
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 11:48 AMSuch a bust
'dragon' o that explains it
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Re: Andora Luana Nathan and Process
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 12:44 PM"Such a bust
'dragon' o that explains it
This is the year of the ox"
I don't put that much stock in that stuff my self.
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Re: Andora Luana Nathan and Process
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 1:03 PM"I don't put that much stock in that stuff my self.
but then I am not all that well-educated in astrology. I'm sure there's something to it."
Gad, you sound SO motivational, inspirational, responsive and healthy here! Doy
The Ox simply does not think much of Dragons. (from a reference book-should they be friends? No-)
In '76 I had a Penny Dream, I think I've said. Big Hand coming from the Sky and handing me a Penny.
Obama-dragon dreams? Nah...they'd meet the Dream of Life itself; Dreaming this world to a better state.
Pleasant warm blustery coming up in weather here, sense of Blessings to work in, yet take care too.
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Re: Andora Luana Nathan and Process
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 12:13 PMshamanism will lead a shaman to get involved in SOUL RETRIEVAL = RUOW RECAPITUALATION PROCESS
AND
having said that, there is a corrupt masculine presence in the "tent ceremonies" that i refuse to hold presence for
i have even been honored by top shamans that made me the focus of the tent prayer in a beautiful and loving way...so, it is all true...
many of my RUoW sisters levitated to the tent ceremony and had to go through many painful experiences before they ran away from that "organization" with there hair on fire!
there is an unholy agreement field being held between spirit and body AGAINST the Will, that is being promoted by the "organized part" of this moment....which explains why my Will REFUSED TO GO THERE!
in this, i do not blame the movement
i just know it is not for me at this time
as far as drugs go
peyote is optimum
but i don't use that either, anymore
i don't like to pressure my heart anymore in these ways
i appreciate your voice scott, and i understand the horrible gap between you and Nathan as no one's fault - it is what it is - and i don't expect either of you to rise above it - i love you both there and will contribute some prayers in regard to this block finding movement, now that the women are investigating the mother/daughter gap in this place, i feel as though i can begin to focus upon the uholy gap being held present by spirit and body AGAINST THE WILL - no blame, just awareness making an observation about the way gaps were laid into place - i do not wish to go past a downed domino, just to get to the other's on the other side!
aloha scott - thank you for staying present
please forgive me for having polarized in the past about this, i feel better now
we are under tsunami warning at this moment
and i know the women are recalibrating their weaponry - in this the earth will be our great matriarch - communicating about our progress in very personal ways. fascinating
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Re: Being accused and Blamed and played as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 5:17 PMNathan,
i learned some important insights from your post 9/28 -8:37
i so appreciated the interpretation and solid consideration
it felt really compassionate and concerned - thank you
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 8:17 PMOne persons hell, maybe anothers paradise, Luana probably knows that already.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 4:26 PMLuana,
YOu have no idea what my name reveals. You've called yourself niggger a few times, if I remember right, but you don't even know what blacks are doing when they themselves use that name. If you did, you'd have a guess about worm.
You do reailze that every time you place other people in what you think the hierarchy of RUOW knowledge is you come of like the reptiles who also love hierarchy and only feel comfortable when they are in their place, looking down on those in lower castes and kissing the ass of those above.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 4:34 PMWorm
WHAT EVER the hell you are talking about????
I think You have caught something from scott .
dont be afraid to use more words to discribe your feelings.....
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 4:36 PMYeah, i have it on good authority that i am the Mother of all reptiles...
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 4:39 PMIf i have no idea what the name worm means....than why dont you clue me in...
so i wont be just streight grossed out every time i have to answer the posts from a guy with a name like worm
FUCKING WORMS ATE MY GARDEN !!!
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 4:53 PMYou are going to have to learn not to hit what you don't understand. I don't really give a shit if you understand my name.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 4:55 PM"I think You have caught something from scott . "
which he caught from
SHARING FORUM WITH ONE TWISTED Luana!
second-person 'cause I'm SO outta here with that! Lo'!
since when does a woman's Moontime last forEVER?!
sheesh!
hope she goes back home soon, it'd be good for the Globe's Natural Radar
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, September 27, 2009 - 4:59 PMLuana,
OK.
I'll help you. It is fucked up that after so many years you are still telling people what you think their levels are. Just like the Reptiles you like have hierarchies and you kiss the ass of channelers who help
you not face your fears of confusions.
You are terrified of being confused. That's why you lash out at what you don't understand.
It creates a hateful fucking environment especially when other poeple buy your self aggrandizement
You are bully. If someone has a problem with you, it must be because they hate the mother.
That might work on people who are isolated and don't have other good contacts with mothers and ru mothers
but let me tell you you look shallow and frozen in fucking old imprinting every time you pull that shit and you have been pulling it for a long time.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 4:06 PMI had to come all the way down here just to tell you all to fucken lick a big sweaty one for heart !
I only scanned ya alls mother hateing posts....pretty stupid waist of cyber space
i ainte got no energy for you mother eating spys and infiltrators who believe yourself to be able to take what is multi facited and reduce it down to a one dimentional judgement AGAINST Mothers like Me and Daisy
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 4:25 PMFuck you too Luana!
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 4:52 PMLuana,
So we should deal with you multidimensionally
while you dismiss everyone as a mother hater.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 5:17 PMHey worm,
Here's the thing I was going to say to you in the other thread. I think Daisy is feeding off a high she gets from "triggering" other people by completely writing them off in one-dimensional ways and feeling superior to them when they react about it. She's done it to me. I've watched her do it to others and she's doing it to you right now. Luana I think has the same thing. I think its a form of psychic vampirism, feeding off the emotional energy generated..... it may beeven be an entity of some kind which has an affinity for their kind of essence and is using them in this way. Whatever it is in them needs food. Its that sad reality of an addictive personality.
Luana sometimes has moments of Lucidity in which she's free of this thing, but I think it has a grip on her some place real deep in the dark recesses of her Gap and won't let go without a fight....
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 5:18 PMThank you,
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 5:21 PMI mean that as
helping me break out of a locked in pattern.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 5:28 PMYou're welcome. I thought you had a pretty good point there all the same... but i guess that's the trade-off. you get to make a good, valid point and feel sort of righteous, and then the thing controlling them gets to feed off the denial in the emotional energy. I'm just getting really wearied by all this endless back and forth with no heart or understanding seeming to be found between points of view.... -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 5:42 PMI can understand that. For me it felt like this has been a good messy thing.
I think it helped me to be dismissed in that way and to notice I did not feel desperate for the ones dismissing me to change their minds under the weight of my comebacks. I expected very little but went with the urge to say what I said.
This felt good. But there was a background anstyness that calmed right down when you said that to me two posts ago. I liked that feeling. I think it was new turf for me and the antsyness was coming from not being sure if I was allowed to drop it. May sound strange or it sounds a little strange to me, but there it is.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 5:45 PMWhoops, missed Andora's post.
My previous was to Nathan.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 8:51 AMasking people to have heart when someone is here just to antagonize them, as luana has been doing here, is asking them to go past what they feel as a result of being antagonized. blaming someone who is getting attacked for not finding heart there is a bit twisted.
I have very evolved places simultaneously with un-evolved essence that is trying to align with my heart. if i deny the un-evolved voice to bring heart in when the heart has not naturally emerged from understanding is another trap that suggests we should be "more evolved than we are".
i think we must address the voice present that has no intent to bring heart forward, rather than attack worm for having an honest response to the badgering going on here.
i - for one - hate what luana and daisy are up to and i do not find that acting as if i am above this and loving is any help. i don't feel love when i read their shallow attacks here at everything that does not kiss there feet!
i love you nathan, and i adore the balance you are modeling most of the time in most of your posts - and when you tell someone to fuck off, i don't come to you and tell you to choke it down and offer love instead.
and then pink comes here and tells everyone to just get along in the gap! without offering much else but shame
yeah i want agreement, have been asking for such, am willing to be and express un-evolved places, because these parts wish to speak to the corruption that is here present! they have been waiting a long time to express their disappointment for the traps that were laid for it by those who claim to be authority (Mother). free will doesn't have an authority, unless it over-rides the will of another or harms self or other. in this - we have created a safe virtual space to highlight what is coming home to us. that which has hated luana or anyone else here for an eternity would love to speak up. in so doing - we all get insights, especially the one spewing - difference is spewing as a way of identifying judgment and misunderstanding, or spewing just for position, with no intent to heal.
pink comes forward and just points her finger at everyone, when the truth is there is only a few here who are enflaming the conversation. to shut down the voice of disturbance about this heartless onslaught of negativity is non-productive, in my opinion. so what if some of you are bone tired of this fucking fight! we all are, but who is ready to give up? who wishes to just shut up the gap and go into their reverie? they can- it's easy - just don't participate. but laying your blame on those who are participating is just more of the same ole fascist talk from the consciousness that does not want the ugly truth out of the bag for whatever reason.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 9:35 AMThanks for sharing that Andora , your post of Sept 29/09 8:51am
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 5:50 PMOh Wormie pie,
Nathan is kissing your butt right now cause he knows that as soon as me and Daisy get sick of hanging round the ol kiddy pool babysitting the ruow didie butts, and, move on to higher ground, he is gonna need allies who wont start eating him when Me and Daisy are gone
He has a conflict of intrest, he is trolling for allies for him and his side kick frankenfurter from rocky horror picture show. (Fangora)
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 5:53 PMYes, I agree, our motives are all slimy.
Oh, just realized you were talking to Nathan.
I am so shallow sometimes.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 7:07 PMLuana
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, September 28, 2009 - 8:13 PMYa know wl.... I kid around with you alot but if i were your REAL Mother i would be soooo proud of you....my own son....he would never dream of reading the ruow books....when i think of you as my brave and couragious son, i just swoon with love for you....and if i was your REAL Mother....i would totaly kick my ass for being such a bitch to you...and if your REAL Mother DID deceide to kick my ass for being such a bitch to you....
i would soooo let Her....
Im sorry Honey
Im sorry
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Re: Comments on a Weird Day
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 12:43 AMPls forgive me for some shortcomings yet
and pls forgive 'cause we all are involved responsibly in this Gap
But 'gap' isn't even understood across the board here-another meaning to bandy about
like saying "I do not hold out much hope for Andora being able to drop the heady, purple buzz counciousness trip, for some time to come".
on top of which is verbal agreement to it, here, this evening. RiDICulous! Mixing the meanings of the books so blamingly...so without HOW TO FIX SUCH! We need more ACTUAL healing IF we're going to go places like 'that'.
DO IT!
I stood as like a surfer to a small ocean today, the ocean being the internet and I never went in the water; post after post tried to busy my day and there was nothing much at all in them for me., So I just hung rather like 'on a sidelines'. And funny, I was also reminded of 'Heart spearheading that leap' as what-his-name posted; it was all.....cute. Not cute-cute but a colored-cute, going towards ugly of course with lots of undertones to quirk at in me. This Lucifill reminded me of a denied heart acting that out-plus such was somewhat 'attended to' more 'cuteness'...like siblings f'ing around when YOU are too serious...
As a whole, moving through hatred, in a BIG picture, not just this one smaller reflection of a Forum..o, that's nothing to mess with-I just have to comment-there were several inane posts! Absolutely not straight-up RU'!!! O WELL...just commenting. 'I was there'.
I wish people could stand themselves off a bit more than they do, and I really don't mean 'holding back'
but for some common sense! Fragments will ride out OUR foolishness all the more and make such 'cute' Mondays....There's MORE to each of us, any of us, than the wiles of the gap with its seducing little hatreds...and demeaning attitudes that have moved into many of our bodies and blood and brains...I learned MORE on cleaning such
-today also was like my Ship was slow and grinding like scraping its hull against a coral reef a bit...No offense esp. of rare postings from 'strays' :) I could've sworn the one being was a like a rat on such ship...scurrying back and forth...like I said, weird.
There's more but moving the Subconscious is key here, rather than adidng words after a point.
Luana, I certainly do take being at a right forum seriously-I have not one clue of where I can go to use a forum elsewheres-not my own website or my own Tribe etc etc. I don't think I can say out loud that I'm 'tied so constrictingly to my own fragmentation' here but it's like that alright.A couple of struggles came up and I'm dealing with them back to (my) Peace
I've had my say, plenty. And heck, none of the rest of That World out there WANTS any love...Thankfully, I'm not hopeless as I could be stuck in-I was before-.
I'm just here, chillin'. Final Resp. even coaxed any of us might let go RU'...(whoo-HOO!)
I'm for forgetting the weirdness and just keep on tackling more comfortable truths.
Thanks for the participations
Good luck-blessings available-
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Re: Comments on a Weird Day
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 3:28 AMOk Scott, i read threw your whole post....but im not realy sure what you said. as usual...
So, do You Love me?
cause, after all, Thats the only thing that is important for me to know from You
well ???????
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Tue, September 29, 2009 - 9:01 AMI don't think you realize what a terrible woman you really are -
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"Nathan is kissing your butt right now cause he knows that as soon as me and Daisy get sick of hanging round the ol kiddy pool babysitting the ruow didie butts, and, move on to higher ground, he is gonna need allies who wont start eating him when Me and Daisy are gone"
everytime two folks start to create some intimacy and bond around heart you show up to slander them and insinuate the "alterior motives" of those who are bonding. like we are just here for the same thing you are - hierarchy - and one-up-manship. i don't know about the others, but i pity you every day i come here and read your angry double-talk, your attempts to separate bonding - you just get more and more obvious in your unholy agenda. why don't you do what you keep threatening to do and go elsewhere, we will see if this sight really collapses after you take your denied love away.
no one here told you and daisy to leave but you insisted you would if we did not behave
and here you still are - angry that nathan and worm are sorting some stuff out - i felt heart move between them and celebrate such, you just come forward and accuse Nathan of having "other" intent and shame worm for being open to him. scummy low-life techniques that i hope and pray are not features of our beloved mother - but hey, maybe that's as good as it gets for Her after delphi and all. alas Mother, why do you hate us so deeply? -
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Re: Luana
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 12:03 PMAndy, Stress not babe, i know EXACTLY what i am doing..... I have a plan and a purpose.
And as far as do i Love these People....maybe it doesnt seem possable to You at this point in your newly found Rage but....well....lets just say....No greater Love has ever gone down ( duh) Im not so dumb as you might believe....i know where my wig ends and my head begins...I am TOTALY aware that the People here on RUOW are the budding coolest People in all of this universe....so im here, tirelessly, and selflessly teaching them how to be honest... demonstrateing to them what spontenaity sounds like.....and they are welcome to practice on me too....I dont hold it agin em.... They know they can come and get the sweetest UNCONDITIONAL Mother Love from me any tim they want to.....cause i realy DO Love these People....these are my People....My Partners from so many lifes that we have been togather.....We have always been at odds with One another.....We just never had the permission to work it threw before....but NOW, Thanks to God sparking Us with permission to move it ALL ....We are FINALY back togather, this time on even playing ground.....
So stress not....things are moveing along JUST the way that MFG asked Us to move them along.....Do not underestamate how much these guys Love Me for helping them with this and teaching them to take no shit heeped upon their poor, covered with shit, Wills.....
These People are my MOST SACRED Family from a waaaaay back when....they know that......
and somewhere in Your Broken Heart, You know that too.
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Re: Luana
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 12:34 PMLuana, thank you for what you said in your post above. I feel exactly the same way. I feel incredible amounts of love for all of us doing this process. As you said, everything is forgivable, there is nothing that can't be healed. Thank you, as I have said all this in the past, but now, because of you, maybe they will understand that we do not want to hurt anyone. See, I learned everything I know about free will expression from you. Spontaneous is the best. So, any attempts to go past true feelings in favor of "nice" doesn't work. I think we just have to keep going until we get it. I wish everyone here would just scream at me and get their hatred out so that I can be seen for who I am. That's how I found you, dear Mother.
Love,
Daisy
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Re: Luana
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 9:31 AM"And as far as do i Love these People....maybe it doesnt seem possable to You at this point in your newly found Rage but....well....lets just say....No greater Love has ever gone down ( duh) Im not so dumb as you might believe....i know where my wig ends and my head begins...I am TOTALY aware that the People here on RUOW are the budding coolest People in all of this universe....so im here, tirelessly, and selflessly teaching them how to be honest... demonstrateing to them what spontenaity sounds like.....and they are welcome to practice on me too....I dont hold it agin em.... They know they can come and get the sweetest UNCONDITIONAL Mother Love from me any tim they want to.....cause i realy DO Love these People....these are my People....My Partners from so many lifes that we have been togather.....We have always been at odds with One another.....We just never had the permission to work it threw before....but NOW, Thanks to God sparking Us with permission to move it ALL ....We are FINALY back togather, this time on even playing ground..... "
Lu,
I just want to say this whole beautiful post by you.... it is so beautifully expressed.
I hope its ok for me to say that. your perspective here dovetails perfectly with my own, and also I for one can attest that I have learned much from you that I would have been hard-pressed to figure out on my own... I believe you when you say that you do know what you're doing... most all of the time..., (and even when you don't, you STILL do!).
Love, Nathan
P.S. I think I will also take your cue regarding getting down to the real inward business of moving stuff too. I think you are right about things being ever quickening, and there is only so much we can do through this medium.... the inward process is key, and i think its time for me to return to mine...
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Re: Comments on a Weird Day
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 9:22 AM
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 9:47 AMFunny,weird, Luana
Your comments didn't feel like kidding around, except for maybe the simular musical tastes comment. What is this, the turn of an unfriendly card (Queen of spades) ?
I find your one complex gal to figure out or what makes you tick.
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THE BUSH ADMIN
Tue, September 29, 2009 - 12:24 PMworm,
at this time the 'moral majority' are coming out of their caves to promote what they have been holding all this time in an ugly and charged way
they come forward with lies that they all agree upon and shove it down our throat as patriotism (as in the gap that insists that there is a good RUoWer v bad RUoWer one-up-manship game holding itself up as authority because of seniority)
as they sat silently while cheney dismantled the bill of rights to set us into a national reversal
in this, they were pleased to repeal civil rights because they are corrupt
and now, they are standing in the light lying publicly -- FINALLY!
MY OWN MOTHER INCLUDED!
they needed to expose their unholy position, their unholy agreements so the youth can finally see who has been the problem in evolving our nation to become inclusive in the way of resource distribution
these youth are including the indigo children who will wipe up the blood, piss, and vomit from the moral majority hitting the wall of incontinence - which happens once the light shines into their ACTUAL truth, which is a fascist hierarchy that uses lies, shame and blame to hold power.
today is a new day
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Re: THE BUSH ADMIN & Luana
Wed, September 30, 2009 - 10:16 AMthat's right lu
i am a zealot about honesty
i guess it could be worse - i could be a zealot about belittling others!
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sat, October 24, 2009 - 6:25 PMRead on the second half of page 50 from Heart Song of all spirits being Mother haters- each and every one of us. No body is exempt from that one.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Sun, October 25, 2009 - 1:46 AMVery true....I do it too....AND, I hate father, and heart son, and heart daughter, and the entire spirit polarity, including myself, and the entire will polarity, including myself, and all the emergences, including myself, yadda yadda yadda............and so, I asked god to take away my self hatred and he did. Now I am letting guilt go. I just release it whenever I encounter it in me. It's so simple it's almost like a trick. -
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, November 9, 2009 - 6:09 PMIt seems that there is quite the rift here on RUOW group and Mothers place with those that are adiment of proclaiming Luana as a valid piece of the Mother and those that don't .And the usual backlash from those that do, see any resistance or reactionary backlash to what Luana puts out, to be judged a Mother hater. Who invented this bullshit judgement?
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, November 9, 2009 - 8:15 PMHi WL,
Given where I would be seen to come down on that rift....
I would not say that Luana is NOT a valid part of the Mother, whatever that would mean, exactly. I mean, she is a part or not.
But the general sentiment of your post I agree with.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, November 9, 2009 - 8:47 PMWorm
It would be my want to let it slide futher. I got reading some posts of dual members from there and here. It prompted me to bring it up.
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Re: Being judged as as a Mother Hater from Mothers Place
Mon, November 9, 2009 - 8:55 PMYea, airing it out (afterwards). It's not about judging Luana as a person, but of this process first, to me; I responded to Andora that her (Luana's) bad part of split-self was showing so much. Really difficult too, thus some splits further out. SOMEthing was being misunderstood of those books in a loud way, or at least was very maligned. That's first: the process, that is, what risk is handled of such person on the way like of maniacal ego and rage, well-sort of 'not ready for outward movement'?...
I guess it's hard for me to write out yet. It was also 'not getting' Godchannel involved by her. I mean I'm lax compared to how much they disdained her or whatever-for the similar actions..She wants to spout it then we must cover the bases here. Again, it''s a public/private area in the mix here.
So now I can sense general compassion filling in-where it will-, and yes of course to let more loving Light in or through. That is, until again: the neighbor next door. What was that quote about anyway-discuss? MUST we always move more love to face 'more hate/guilt' following?
Part of me doesn't mind setting all this aside, like you WL said at the begin. of this thread; as I embrace certain other or additional Experience-(and you-know, such occasional happenings I could put in some people's PMs b/c it's not for the public and continue process but they won't have it! That's just cold or wrong for now).~~~ O, the BLUE! Something awesome I experienced.
Hurricane Ida is hitting the Gulf Coast area (now as a tropical storm).
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