EVERYONE here is allowed to say what would feel good.

topic posted Tue, June 9, 2009 - 8:49 PM by  Daisy
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So please, lets make it a group thang, ok? No one person has to be the moderator, but everyone gets a chance, if it feels right to the group. We all belong here, we all get to decide how things go for us here. Hands off? Hands on? How much or none at all of both or neither, or let it flow, or..................endless possibilities. All I know is that tribe wants us to have a moderator. So, what say you, RUoWer's? I am addressing the people who haven't said anything yet, but who are watching and waiting for.....right or wrong position? Which side to take, or not to take? There are NO SIDES. We are a COMMUNITY. But if you don't like what we propose and you haven't come forward to say, or to propose something else within a reasonable amount of time, as tribe would say, you may not like what we decide as a group. So please, lets discuss, or vote for an option. No other option is on the table yet, as far as I know. Anyone.....else?
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Daisy
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  • Well, I'd like to speak up my ideas of what I'd like for the moderatorship here,

    pretty much hands off, only deleting ones own posts or someone who has requested to have their posts deleted ...no deleting other's posts in most instances except for unforseen reason(s) we agree on as they come up, e.g. if someone reveals information of a personal nature of another member without permission, or if someone posts on a thread where the originator has asked that others don't post on it.

    Decisions to be made to be discussed among the tribe, and among the council, the will of the people (or the majority) to be honoured.

    I consider this a tribe of all the people who are here, all the viewpoints, vibrations, desires, opinions, etc

    mind you, I don't necessarily feel this way about blatantly hating blaming light just obviously intent on smacking the life out of others ...
    but what this is might be debatable,
    so,
    if people feel someone should be removed, I'd like this to be a discussion process too with the group

    thanks for listening
    Semele
    • Since Nathan ,has been removed here as moderator, or has he? who the fuck is deleting my posts?


      I posted something yesterday in reguards of when Nathan was moderator and Shenreed and myself were having an open discussion here.

      I also stated that before Nathan took over as moderator there was a 3 page list of threads and now since he's been here its gone, wiped out.

      W.L.
      • Does that mean that EVEN ME gets to be moderator for a day? i have NEVER had ANY kind of a power position, i get kicked out of every place i go and everybody hates me....i would probly kick everybody out if i knew how to do it, which i dont, so dont even consider giveing me any moderateing power cause i dont believe in the "we need a moderater," judgement ,any ways

        what the hell even IS a "moderater" ? ....never mind, i dont even wanna know

        Love You
        • And yet somehow you find the courage to go on, poor, poor Luana.
          • Here I am Luana, you can rip me a new one ? This isn't Mothers Place.
            • WL, what are you doing?
              • What is it look like I'm doing ?
                • I dunno. Wanna fight?
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    Sure, what you like to fight about? Hey, I know...

                    I think its weird how you and Luana use the word 'love" in your expressions. It feels awkward to me, but that's me. It seems too special a word to be used here on-line like loose change and hearing it brings up feelings, ideas of suspicion & distrust.

                    W.L.
                    • W.L.

                      When You speek of Love do You have no way to realize that i am A MOTHER !!!! AND !!!! A GRANDMOTHER ????? Is THAT the problem ???
                      You have NO WAY to realize just how much a FEMALE, Mother/GrandMother Heart can Love.....You are just a little man standing there, YOU have NO experiance with the kind of LOVE that I have experiance with......Do not folly in gageing My capasity to LOVE by Your luke warm, low vibration , twinges and stirings of potentual Love.......

                      JUST by the virtue of My EXPERIANCE with Love, You should be able to portend what all i might contain, No wonder you come here to tear me down, You posess NOT the counciousness with which to portend what ALL being the Mother of dead Children, Live Children, and, dead and Alive, Grand Children .....My EXPERIANCE with Love is FAR greater than ANYTHING You can come up with till You yourself are 60 years old and a Father and GrandFather.....even than, a MAN has no componants with which to FEEL "Love," like a Woman .....
                      so do me a favor and just shut up , K ?
                      • W.L., It is ONE thing if You want to be very very nice and respectfull to me, THAT i will be ok with ME .....but if you wanna be a little yapping dog at the heals of Mother's Light, FRAGGING HER IN SUCH A WAY AS TO TAKE ALL HER TIME AND ENERGY ANSWERING YOUR STUPID, ENDLESS, "WHAT IFS, " than i DO NOT give you permission to speek to me at all....

                        I AM SICK !!!!!!!!!!! OF LITTLE HALF BAKED MOTHER HATERS HAVEING THEIR WAY WITH HER !!!!!!!!!!
                        • and ! i FUCKING HATE LYONS !!!
                          THEY ARE CRUEL, VICIOUS, USELESS, EATERS !.......
                          IT CREEPS ME OUT EVERYTIME I SEE YOUR STUPID NAME
                          • (it's 'loon' not lion...creeps me out a tad too-wonderious?- but)

                            Loons are water birds who go long times underwater feeding and they keep Florida up all night with their cool sounds
                            kinda look like ducks

                            cleanest to eat: fowl
                            birds that mother's rage didn't get and we have them here as a BIG HELP
                            • Scott,

                              Probably just for the winter months in Florida and then they fly north for the rest of year.

                              Thank for trying to educate those from Down Under.

                              They got down there them Kola bears, Kangaroo's and Plattapusses. Indigenious to their neck of the woods only.

                              What creeps you out?

                              W.L.
                              • This sounds fucked, but I truly believe that a man could never understand the love in a woman's heart. You all are too fucking suspicious, and you don't know how to receive it without said suspicion staining everything.

                                Luana, I don't ever question that you DO love when you say the word love. Maybe these nincompoops need to re-familiarize themselves with who Mother is and what love means. Oops! They'd have to move all that fear first, wouldn't they! Heh, heh!
                                • Why don't any of you guys ever bother to get to know a woman before you project your shit on to her? Luana is one of the most beautiful, powerful women I have ever met here. At least she doesn't hide behind an anonymous profile, quivering in fear that someone might discover who she really is. No, she's right here, straight up telling you how she feels about your bullshit disrespect for Mother, and pushing your every button just to show you who's really in control here. It aint you, that's for sure.
                                  • And WL, I don't think that anyone could ever mistake you for an ancient one. You smell of FoM to me, and probably every other woman here. uh.....your imprints are showing, dude.
                                    • Mother's rage has a right to exist and express, even if it means killing every single one of us stupid fucks from HER planet, not yours, not mine, HER'S.
                                      • Male Female Gap

                                        Thu, June 11, 2009 - 12:40 PM
                                        Ya know what I would really love to see, and something that I have been asking for ever since this place came to be? For the men to start talking about how much they hate and fear women. Why don't you guys try to heal this bullshit, huh? All I ever hear is, "Wah, Daisy you are WRONG about us, we don't hate women!" But you hate your mothers don't you? I am sick and tired of the lies about it. It would be so much better to me, even if it hurt me, to hear this from the men here. At least then, I could believe that you MIGHT be honest, and care a little about what happens to Mother and all the rest of creation, instead of being invested in trying to take someone dow who exposed you.

                                        WL, how about moving your triggers instead of blaming Luana for it? The only reason she knows which buttons to push is that you don't even see it yourself, but it is obvious to anyone with a little sight to see.

                                        You should all get down on your hands and knees and ask her forgiveness, because She IS the mother.

                                        Fuckin' boneheads.
                                    • Daisy

                                      This may be irrelavent to ask, but how could you distinguish as to what makes up the characteristics of one who might possibly represent the imprinting of the Ancient Ones that Serve the Light ?

                                      Reading the last chapter of Earth Spell and a reference to the Ancient Ones there got me thinking of what you said here.

                                      W.L.
                                    • Daisy

                                      This may be irrelavent to ask, but how could you distinguish as to what makes up the characteristics of one who might possibly represent the imprinting of the Ancient Ones that Serve the Light ?

                                      Reading the last chapter of Earth Spell and a reference to the Ancient Ones there got me thinking of what you said here.

                                      W.L.
                                  • W.L.,

                                    O just the 'Wonderious' spelling! Mispell? Anyway, it's grown on me some of course
                                    • O come on Daisy, there's different rages at Play here and Luana' is so long without a heart: using scathing, simply scathing heartless flings. Ye, we got her POINT! Yours too I'd imagine, love.

                                      When did rage really succeed with words anyway, because of such loss of Feminine Heart? People can mix SO many other horrible meanings using words in the name of rage and it's not even rage anymore!-like complaint and revenges and stealings etc

                                      Then we have here to tackle guilt having power for so long and what is guilt talking when deleriously mixed with rage (s)?
                                      Again and again, we implored to BREATHE before writing, sharing with others and god forbid, flinging 'that' at internet

                                      etc.

                                      Thank you
                                      keeping the real you's at heart
                                      S
                                      • I FEAR it's a deadend with such people around, to move as you suggested Daisy; it's the male rage heading it off with female rage which mother suffered for very long to prevent such catastrophe (if her rage-infestations expressing met God/s/male's)...It's why we have private tribes so we can discuss going about such areas first. New people are fitting in here somewhere too; in 2 cases they wish to avoid Luana! But we must get this Vote through first!

                                        On the other hand, if such people can rage while a female ON THEIR OWN...an idea.
                                        • MY mother? Yea, in my confabulations I've hated it often throughout life but that's not right and I'd carry it into my Wilderness. What'd I find? How to bless women. That mother(s) gave us Life and that's that. Wrestle these things within, cleanse the caught stuff and apply forgivenesses as directly as possible to where each is within you. If forgiveness has reached, you simply won't hear men rage at women! And we try and care for the process of those that do and must yet.

                                          Rage itself in other words, gets futile, weak or powerless WHEN process is applied. In words, it's like one sentence a day.
                                          But then there's rage beyond this covilization-our original rages
                                          Suppose this civilization blocks healing the IMPRINTING of Heart's concerning damages?! Y'know, ouch.
                                        • I don't believe that there is anything wrong with the expression of rage, or even rage itself. It's all a part of it. I CAN feel the heart in what Luana says. In fact, to me it's coming from a place of self love that she can just say whatever comes up for her. I don't feel guilt in her expressions as much as I do the people who try to engage her this way. And has anyone here or anywhere for that matter, actually cared to really ask her anything, or is it just that engaging her in a battle is more fun? It goes no where, actually. Luana is gonna be Luana. If people moved their charge enough to be able to own and accept and even love their own rage-mother within, you would be able to understand what's real here.
                                          • Well I have been totally up front about my own imprinting and hatred for the male side. I have been totally out about it, because my intention is to heal it. I don't see this with men. Sorry, I just don't. I rarely even hear about men grouping together for healing, trying to even bridge with your own sex first. I rarely ever hear men admit to their mother/women hatred. The last person who was real about it with me was my partner. But he was unable to get it moving out because he was too attached to it. He almost killed me with it. The denial of it is obvious to me. That's what's common, not the acknowledgment and moving of it, ime.
                                            • One last thing about my friend Luana before I stop; she truly has the power because it's been given to her. People are so afraid of her, but it isn't her that you actually fear. I think what you fear is that she is right and you are wrong. The defensiveness, the need to correct her, that's what's obvious. That says, "I'm afraid but I can't let her know because then she might have the upper hand, or at least I can prevent her from humiliating me by showing how big and strong and grizzled and together I am". I mean, think about how strong she must be to have been able to withstand all this hatred for so long? I don't blame her for poking anyone. She poked me early on to the point of me hating her and wishing she would die, or leave, or whatever. But I had to own that she just simply said OUT LOUD the things I feared were true about me. And guess what? They were! Turns out I was the judgmental and self-hating one! So fucking what! I am human after all. When I owned it, I got my power back. She never wanted my power anyway. Can you imaging how boring this must get for her? Maybe she would like to actually have some friends, and maybe no no one is worthy of that until their charge towards what she stands for is all moved out. Because the job she is doing is holy and sacred. If there was nothing to poke there would be no NEED to poke. See? I think she is just doing what she feels called to do. It worked for me, and Luana, I can never thank you enough. Bless you, Mother.

                                              Love,
                                              Daisy
                                              • That'd make a great Testimonial for Luana, btw.

                                                Yes, I can see what you're saying, Daisy; afterwards I thought of people new to 'the place' and she'd go off them and well, they're GONE.

                                                Thank you Daisy (and Karolina in the other thread)

                                                I prefer to say Release out loud for now; that each or the, session be released and even shake it out some, breathing out too

                                                Goodness knows attentions can remain glued to a screen!

                                                S
                                                • It's ok if attention is glued to the screen. Do you feel guilty about it, Scott? To me, this place is really important. It's all I have of a RUoW community, and I hope that someday we can all meet and give each other hugs. It's no coincidence or mistake that we find ourselves here. At least here we can see what the gaps are, with minimal harm to each other.

                                                  I don't work. I do art, play with my friends, and move move move. I give myself so much time on the interweb, but I also take plenty of time without it. Months have gone by without me checking in. My will lets me know when it's too much.
                                              • And please, try to remember that I have a lot of charge around the split between men and women. I really want to heal it, for my own peace of mind, and for the rest of us too. I do love men, I want to be with a partner, to have a man love and cherish me exactly the way I need to be. I need it so bad, and I'm so pissed at Jim for what he did to us. I still hate him for rejecting and leaving me and for not being strong enough. I need a big strong man, it's true. As big and strong as I am.
                                                • Daisy, I can concurr with your longing of not having a man in your life.

                                                  I don't get it why is it that I see a few women here on these tribes of having to refer to themselves as " us ". Why cannot those of you who use that expression say " Me " or " I " ?

                                                  I can't control the the thoughts that come into my head, but I sure as hell am responsible for how long I choose to dwell on those thoughts. I do my best to take responsibility for my own thoughts, feelings and actions.

                                                  Its really none of my business to say this to you Daisy, But maybe you were asking something of Jim, that he could no longer give.
                                            • Daisy

                                              I have much blaming rage and hatred towards my mother and sister and women who use their sexual charms to get my attention when it suits them and then fucking give me the brush off when they've got it !

                                              I also don't like how women get so airbrushed from being in all these fucking glamour magazines like FMH, Cosmopolitian and worst of all, fucking Playboy magazine, no scars, no wrinkles, no moles,acne, blemeshes, cuts,scraps or bruises. Perfect tanned bodies, no tan lines and now of course the present trend, shaved pubic hair.
                                  • You know what, Daisy

                                    That's fucking bullshit !

                                    If Luana is so beautiful and powerful why does she contiue to project her own reflection from others as being hated or rejected?

                                    And my bullshit & disrespect for the Mother in the form of Luana.....What do you have fucking dellussions of grandeur to conjure up this shit ?

                                    My next feeling will be voiced off line
                          • Come on,Luana

                            You can to do better than that.

                            So do you have balls to answer my question in reguards to Nathan or is avoidance your prime headgame specialty ?
                            • Look at the way lucifer trys to egg the Mother on here with the "come on Luana, You can do better that that," (come on lets see how hard you can hit me, is that all you got Mother, come on HIT ME HARDER ! ( till i gap and kill you ) justifyably of course.

                              Other men have an excause for this Mother hateing trickery, THEY didnt read (or claim to read) the RUOW books.....but you, W. L. ....you (claim) to read the books but STILL do not recognize yourself as using luciferian tricks on Mother....RIGHT in frount of all of these trained Eyes.....im telling you to SHUT UP, for your own damn good, STUPID !....you are commiting social suiside as we speek with every line you write.
                              • Well, my dearest Luana

                                Its' so refreshing to hear you voice your blaming rage towards me here in the form of words on this thread. You put a lot of energy into expressing these typed words.

                                How much energy did you spend screaming, cursing my name off-line ?

                                You can claim all you want of claiming to be one of the voices of " The Mother of Everything ". I sure as fuck don't buy it, nor from you Daisy.
                                Perhaps fragment or Lost Will of the Mother is more accurate? That, I can accept.
                      • For all I know, Luana you could be Heart- Daughter or Mother- Daughter polarized to Spirit or even denied Heart Will Daughter?

                        I could easily claim to be one of the Ancient Ones that serve Light- the gods of Greek Mythology.
                        • Daisy....This is a GREAT Day for the healing of another little piece of Our Mother's Broken, chared ,and, forgotton, Heart....effected by God's Most Precious Healer, You....Yeah, You Girl, Little, Sweet, and, BRAVE, and, OH SO DEVINE, You !, Daisy Girl....
                          Mother owes You a BIG FAT ONE ....
                          BELOVED !!!!!

                          No wonder Mother Channeler of Mother's Site values You above all others....
                          Oh ! OH !! What a Friend We have in Daisy....
                          just amazeing how She moves, Joan of Arch,
                          Ever on the side of Our Mother's Light and, what is right, fair, and Loveing.
                          Like the compleetly misunderstood and, sabatoged accordingly, Morgane

                          Jims commen back to You You know?
                          yep
                          He WILL be along soon
                          with hat in hand
                          tail between his legs
                          and "this little bouquet of flowers."

                          God will find a path for Him to come Home upon.
                        • W.L. dude, i dont know how long you have been in this process....must not have been very long

                          I guarentee You that if you do stay with this process, you will HAVE to do a 3/80 here with your half baked, lame understandings of Our Mother's Light, and, HOW NOT TO KILL IT !!!!....Than you are going to be soooo sorry for how stupid you are to have committed social suiside here with the old timers, while you were still a wet behind the ears, KID, in this process.

                          Every thing you say, like what you said about the Greek Gods, and, the ancient ones, and, stateing that you have no involvement with them ,just shows how very FAR you need to go with your counciousness expansion and UNDERSTANDINGS of the prisoms of this process.....you have a very limited, and, infantile, understanding of fragmentation and how it has "worked," here on Earth....Why dont you just accept that and, simply listen and learn, KNOWING that You have AT THIS TIME only a micro schnick of a clue, as to the "workings," of ANYTHING.......and, without Heart for ALL MOTHERS !!!!!! I dont hold out alot of hope for you actually staying with this process long enough to be considered and "old timer," yourself......
                          I have seen em come and go, SO many times.

                          meanwhile

                          If i want you to study ancient greece
                          i will command you to clean my stove

                          oh and i almost forgot to add,

                          SHUT UP !!!!
                        • OF COURSE I AM ALL OF THOSE COMBINATIONS OF MOTHER/DAUGHTER ESSENCES YOU MENTION, you nincomepoop !! THATS ONE of the things that makes me so WHOLE....and, COOL !!.....and like LESS FRAGMENTED, ya dig ???

                          ( oh never mind, you are just too RUOW infantile to talk to, your stupidness just goes on and on and on with no end in site.

                          READ THE BOOKS, thats what they are for, im not here to spend a decade bringing you up to date,
                          just to see you abandon the process half way threw.
                          • And Scott

                            You better watch your wolly, venis fly trap, babbeling lips, TOO !

                            you better check your oversites with me or i swear to the great god of indifference i will seal you in a cave AGAIN ! where you can comtemplate your shaministic under and over sites for another thousand years.....un interupted !
                            • What r you talking about 'Luana'? Cave?
                              Thousand years?
                              Again?
                              • Like Kendra said of her: she hasn't changed over years
                                A feel-good thread, hmm? Yea, Luana can give some feelgood like anyone but now we've just remembered her gapped rage flinging style, and it's not only feelbad where I can hit the more real road, but it's also loaded with denial-she's not in her places 'here', not in her skin. What can we say or do but leave her alone~~Can you see the abuse of words beyond her lack of education of them? We need to HEAL Blue not explode it all the time!, let alone at others-and I reminded: other missing. Keep going past stuff, Luana.
                                • Scott

                                  I think its a good idea for us to remember that Daisy and Luana like to represent the Mother as themselves and like to speak for the Mother as well. Maybe I should try that with the denied Heart or Heart son polarized to Will or Spirit, maybe even Heart angel.

                                  Daisy has already pegged me at acting out the imprints of Form with what I 've said here & Luana has pegged me a Luciferian. Geez I'm just in a state of awe with these absolute judgements made against me and then the generalizations towards all men.

                                  Daisy, it is just Scott and myself here, do you really need to use a stereo type jugement like " You men " ?

                                  I'm having an issue with Luana about her need to defend Nathan, from Mothers Place and my reactions from what comes up for me when you and Luana use the word " Love " . Its my issue and I voiced my feelings about how it is being used. If you and Luana know where you stand with it and your intent from using it, then its my issue, not yours.
                                  • Daisy, how long has wonderous loon guy been in RUOW ? do you know?

                                    I think thats where the confusion is comming from....those guys in the first few years are pretty much a time and Light drain for SEVERAL years, thats why i go away from RUOW groops for years and just talk to my friends privately, cause ,half baked, RUOW , rookyies in "the tender years," of this process are just too painfull and, time consumeing to hang around for very long, They would take up ALL of your time if they could, distraction You from what ever you REALY wanted to say.....I seem to ALWAYS have a wonderous loon type on my ass every time i show my face....so i drift away, like im fixen to do here.....Seems like i can never say what i CAME here to say cause there is ALWAYS a wonderous loon there to try to make me look like what ever his judgements are against me, or, other woman in general. Its just no fun for me to constantly have to battle off the DHS
                                    guys ( usualy gay) when really i wanted to talk about the future and make some plans with some people who Love me.

                                    W.L. is probly some old DHS/DFOM frag of mine from years ago who like a sneeky snake, changed his name several times sence than, and, still has a hard on for me....TO THIS DAY ! YIKES !!

                                    W.L. go read the Mother Pages on GC and, get out of my face for a while, if i wanna banter wih Mother hateing , imprinted, idiots, who HATE Mother, and, denie Her MANY voices, i will go down to the bar !
                                    • Scott, this is exactly why Chela dumped You like yesterdays garbage, at the end of the day, you are a babbeling, incohearent, perma dork !

                                      Go haunt a house, FREEK !!!!
                                      • You really beLIEVE that shiit, non-ruower Luana here on THIS tribe: hindsight that's over four years old by hardly even RUMOR?! Wrong site babe, wrong path, wrong books, baby. Belief systems-what a help you are. Midwiving all those people with these hands typing that, here, my god. Hmm, let me think. So your intent is to hurt-could be heart or spirit or will or body! Kiss the tribe goodbye-when it gets there. Did you answer the questions? No, THEY linger for years though. Do you attend to WHY you're really MAYbe angry at me? NO...Loo-whoo-OOser
                                        • She's-Chela- alright to dwell on for me though fer now..god we had some times. It was a wrong-mate thing, that's all. And it was holy and sacred (like you ruined Daisy's saying that of you today and this next day too-and of course the past now that you remind me of stuff you haven't moved). Her healing attempts were the cutest! God, were we a world apart...but bam!
                                          lol
                                          you two never were friends much for you to speak. I'd call you out more but you're such a STRANGE fragment. Good luck wid dat. Come to the Normalcy, help all the women, but NO...Loowhoo OOser
                                        • Scott

                                          Luana is probably incapable of knowing how to answer a question straight up and she calls you a dork ?

                                          Daisy must think that her pussy is made of gold and that of being the pure essence of the Mother and should therefore be placed up on pedistal, venerated and or also protected.

                                          What did she call me or us ? Fuckin boneheads for not recognizing Luana's divinity.

                                          Scott, Luana must be so far above us in intelligence, that in order for us of not being in a state of denial, we should have to try figure things out in a round about way, since her & Daisy seem to make all these judgements about my or our real character, its gotta be factual & truthful; Because they're the true, self appointed authority here.
                                    • Luana,

                                      would rather go to the bar to kill her feelings with booze, rather than feel them.
                                      • Well, whoever's going to moderate here, has to NOW think of a rage-polarity Cage for that stuff, sheesh. Chaotic, 'exciting' time here and this thread can be further in the public eye, I don't know...ooo: 'out of control' field of..(all the denied fear that runs the world?); so, keeping it cool as best I can on my part (hard to say)..'golden pussy..pedestal', lol..

                                        Golden people-isn't she gapped from them in actuality? Wouldn't she hate them straight up? At such a forum, we HAVE to know...Or of course move along..Arkansas,.
                                        • Is all this moving yet? Or is it going around in a hate circle? I don't really care one way or the other, all's I know is, I love Luana, she helped me save my baby boy, and she shines with the mothers golden light. Can you say sparkle?
                                          • None of it's wrong, work it out people. Let the voices speak! Yeah!
                                            • Cage for the rage???Are you kidding? Scott, c'mon!Sometimes Rage needs to move first. What sucks is, never evolving it.

                                              I think you boys are really triggered by Luana. I mean, I've heard her say these exact same things to almost everyone at one time or another. Scott, it would seem that by now, you would be immune. Is it the "gay" part? Is that what's hooking you?

                                              I really like this no moderator thing, 'cause it's interesting to see what triggers everyone. I really do see the hatred for women/mother, just by the mere fact of the denial of Luana as mother. That's pretty intense for me. I mean, it's hard enough to own that as it is and it's not like she goes around pronouncing herself as such. But sure as I know what I am, I recognize her. It's like looking into a mirror sometimes and seeing the part of me that's missing.

                                              I would really love it tho, if you guys could back it up a little and share what this is all about for you. I'm part of mother too, AND she lives inside of me, loud and clear. It does hurt to witness the misunderstandings, but I understand that it's necessary too, to move it. I hope that, one day you will both be in a place to honor what she is doing for you here and now.

                                              What's different for me about what Luana is doing, versus what Nathan was doing is, I can feel the love in her. But I am no longer hooked either. Blessed be.

                                              Love,
                                              Daisy
                                              • 'Gay part?' Who? Wha? O, just drew that up out of everywhere. Like Luana saving a life yet talking like that here and now
                                                It doesn't REALLY add up
                                                That's all. Sure I know what you mean in looking at person in a clean, healthy sense, no problem.

                                                • I know what you mean Scott.

                                                  Luana, just needed to conjure up the gay thing for some ammo to attack me with.

                                                  She didn't ever fuckin voice a response on Mothers Place when I started to talk about some sexual issue and ran it off as talking dirty.

                                                  Guess what are the next words with real feeling to come of my mouth, Daisy, Luana ?

                                                  Luana has probably got her nose so far up Nathan's ass, She's gotta be Pinnoccio.
                                                  • Luana: "Scott....Im surprised that ANYTHING, EVER "adds up," in your deranged and scrambled brain.
                                                    Go get a shave and a hair cut, see if that helps any."

                                                    'feel the love'
                                                    so gapped-is that humor or do you mean such? 'Course we already tried the 'come and find out' game

                                                    Why am I asking-as long as there are judgements in the words she chooses, nothing moves there and they're pushed on out as well
                                                    So, Daisy's saying there's kernels of truth in such Whatever...doesn't hold water.

                                                    So I leave it and come back b/c RUoW means millions of people and I see these unmoving words of tripe and bs using my name
                                                    not that she'll Process one word of it! Multiplied by years...

                                                    Yep! That makes a pretty big Nose straight up the highway to Nathan's..More proof of ill alignment, like dragons who HAD A LOSS OF HEART made all those forceful pacts and applied them to mother dragon and Lu here hasn't budged or healed that area one cent's worth, the way she gabbed with Nate the night before he lost his moderation....all awning at me, about me

                                                    What's the riddle?
                                                    What's the big mystery?

                                                    It's the lava essence versus REAL essence...
                                                    which may as wll 'spunk' out regardless of Luana's doings here
                                                    lost essence breezing around

                                                    IS THE ONLY REALITY she bears therefore...
                                      • WTF ???

                                        GOD You are dumb.....I would NEVER go to a bar unless it was to rescue someone....and, I have NEVER drank alcohol, NEVER !! I hate booze !!!!.....

                                        You did not even read my post, I said if i wanna talk to Mother hateing idiots, i will go to the bar.
                                        • Luana

                                          you should still go to the bar, it fits in with all your projections.

                                          Yeah, Little Rock, Arkansas would be a good place or how about Lafayette, New Orleans.

                                          Yeah Daisy, lets work it out people. Are you including yourself with that statement?

                                          I think your wrong with some of your projections.

                                          Next time you want to tell me to read the books, say it here on this thread where you really wanted to say it.
                                          • W.L. read the books

                                            or not
                                            • Hey Scott,

                                              You should come to ark and meet my boyfriend billy

                                              Im gonna get some ibogain seeds, and, grow some plants, the fruit will purge you of those addictions.

                                              Nathan is a real groovy guy, He was just haveing a moment, He is alot more whole than RUOW dorks like you and W.L., so, it follows that He has more issues....I dont think He likes witches, He is from the north ya know.

                                              and

                                              Nathan CAN BE sexy, You and W.L. are a couple a grumpy, spun out, dorks with a severe, probably irreversable, case against Mother/Daughter. Dorks who couldnt get layed in a woman's penitentury with a fist full of pardons.
                                              • Hey Luana,
                                                what do you know about addictions if you're no example?

                                                like your saying one should read the books
                                                or not

                                                It's like that with Santy too-since you chose to speak as such instead
                                                of not

                                                THIS be your gift
                                                www.youtube.com/watch

                                                sorry people-this'll be over soon

                                                Well, let the Northern Heart of Stone be over Nathan's denied-heart Zone
                                                on down to your dead-lava's

                                                Why is there a dead-lava girl here and not our mudpie girl?
                                                B/c Luana is one of the reasons Mother never had her right place on Earth
                                                she don't wanna discreetly resolve her right place and have both her way and her fun
                                                then we're stuck with her here as is, so far
                                                • Luana is being demonic: vampirish
                                                  on me-why?

                                                  B/c in sight of her I happened to have a loss of power

                                                  long ago

                                                  I had power before and after and everyone else in Creation, let's say, of the Vanguard-
                                                  knew it and supported me if not happily

                                                  Just one moment-not quite bravery with the goings-on between Mother and Father, I had a loss of power
                                                  Luana's eyes fastened on me/my plight, fixated, burning it into her memory
                                                  one of the 'rage-polarity' that had been so awfully infected and who had gotten out
                                                  for a spell
                                                  and we happened to be in each other's vicinity

                                                  and that's it, all she knows of me b/c her instructions are to remain 'with the rage polarity'
                                                  how God has felt about what I mean here is expressed a few chapters in, in the orangey book
                                                  and that's all she targets: 'God', Man or Spirit
                                                  she was booted from GC

                                                  Is the demonic world the same as the rage-polarity? Could be.
                                                  She has puked on the shamanic' these last few days, see-which could go to concerning Grandfather.

                                                  Anyway, easing up these years, readying to bid the demonic goodbye
                                                  would she get used to it, I'm not to say
                                                  Possibly they WOULD be friends in the end

                                                  for now she's the opposite of the healing arrow and the arrow of love for that matter
                                                  Such is our history, reminding me a happy little sprite/spirit gaily frolicking through the woods
                                                  to meet THIS monster
                                                  again and again for the issue was so 'impossible' and 'unbelievable'
                                                  I just Am and she could kill it, yes? No?

                                                  Well, she ain't done
                                                  the demonic or rage-polarity is still here until it's over
                                                  don't forget the guilt (tortures) of it

                                                  One moment, of all the horrors otherwise and elsewhere, of all the 'Stories'
                                                  she'd never forget at least in a right way, ONE spirit's, ONE occasion
                                                  Why had I lost power? Some zone nearby Mother had none, whatever
                                                  but no one need be treated as Luana did me ever since
                                                  down lower in darkness than the angels' looking-at-denials only...

                                                  all she 'lived for'

                                                  so it'll be over soon
                                                  • Speaking of the men-women gap
                                                    this Moment being before God and Mother were fully using Human form
                                                    much was soured and it spread like a sour wounding to Male and Female experience
                                                    Luana 'busted' me every which way she could

                                                    Since the location could be construed as nearer the Mother though unknown so much then
                                                    heart daughter as Doorway to my True Love was 'there'
                                                    seeing everything and seeing it all when everyone's eyes and perceptions weren't all that matured yet
                                                    the Love of it tried everything of course, namely away from Luana or 'when it was over'

                                                    (clue in all you want of the rest of Creation's stories here happening too
                                                    daughter and Body for example-this Moment I'm talking of wasn't that)

                                                    but sourcing many a romantic tale unfinished or unrequited? O yea

                                                    thank you
                                                    S
                                                    • You know how God and Body played chess as it were that became so entrapping of each?
                                                      I was one of the Pieces one or the other tossed
                                                      to where Luana was at
                                                      He's sorry and all that

                                                      so she could go on about how I didn't belong there
                                                      if she couldn't think-positive or speak with heart
                                                      me with some self-pity and wound from God's fling

                                                      we had this in common: experience.

                                                      So here is this tribe
                                                      a nice place for the ornery-as-shit meeting again
                                                      that is, should one speak w/o love present especially
                                                      and just Repeat

                                                      OK! All you guys have a nice weekend! Sure was a beautiful tone to Earth today!
                                                      O dear grand Mother, allow me into your Next'!

                                                      S
                                                      • Thats right Scott,

                                                        I did all of that, ....and much much more, but if you think that was bad, wait till you see whats next for your little pathetic H.S. ass, than im gonna get to work on your FOM shit, and, if there is anything left of you, im gonna have my way with your tripped out spirit....

                                                        Love Me or die, sucker !
                                                        • ! We have actual, literal illegal threat here
                                                          ah, the things one can do with no moderator
                                                          like Lord of the Flies! .

                                                          Luana: "..if there is anything left of you, im gonna have my way with your tripped out spirit....

                                                          Love Me or die, sucker ! "
                                                          • Yeah Scott

                                                            Luana, really likes to come across as being ferocious with her threats of violence to us. It reminds me of that movie " A Scent of a Woman " with Al Pacino, where he does a terrrific job of portraying a blind, retired war veteran. No, No, I got the movies mixed up it was " Heat " I was thinking of.
                                                          • Well, I don't know Scott?

                                                            Didn't the one kid influence all other kids to be anarchists, except for Piggy and that other kid not buying into the chaos on the island ?

                                                            Looney homophobic Luana is just another half wit Heart Daughter riding on the Mothers long over-do rise to power with her " Love me or die, sucker ! comment.

                                                            The nincoompoop comment, I thought was rather hilarious.
                                                            • Daisy:
                                                              "Scott, I'm sorry, but I just can't understand anything you are saying."

                                                              Well, then you're not into Original Cause stories and processing here, are ya?!
                                                              • Yes, I am, actually. I can feel you ok, I just don't understand your words or the way you put them together. I'm sorry, I just don't get it.

                                                                And no, I'm not really into online processing. It never works for me, I prefer moving offline. My issues are with me, not anyone else. I mean, sometimes I like to write about how I'm feeling, or say what I think or feel out loud, but I don't want to have a discussion about it, not with people who don't care about me, or have an agenda to take me down. I can pretty much take care of my own healing process. If I need help, I try to CALL someone that I know personally, someone whom I've already spoken with and feel safe with. This place is a mine field of gaps and twists and turns, and everyone thinks they know everything or have all the answers, when really, we're a bunch of children trying to live even though we never learned how.
                                              • Unsu...
                                                 
                                                Luana,

                                                not like witches are you kidding??

                                                I LOVE witchy gals! As far as I'm concerned there's no other kind even worth looking at!

                                                My ex-gf was a self-proclaimed witch, and there's practically nothing I wouldn't do to um do the things i used like to do with her again fucking gave up on dreaming about it though :(.... but I mean even if was completely stupid and completely at my own peril or to my own detrement and I knew this, I'd probably just dive right in without a even a thought.

                                                I'm also currently in hopeless unrequitted love with a woman who I pretty much think is a wtich, has this totally "witchy" vibe about her ais a vegentarian and into homeopathy and all that good crap.

                                                OMFG I am so frigging hopelessly in love with her right now.. but unfortunately she's married.. i don't know her age, but probably close to sixty with this wild, crazy chestnut hair with streaks of gray that looks like prairie sage.. she plays the wooden irish flute like you wouldn't believe and dresses so demure which I find incredibly sexy and she works for a major knitting magazine doing layouts... *(i have some band pics of us up on my profile)..... if she only knew how much she has me wrapped around her little finger and what i wouldn't do for the chance to worship her matching patch of chestnut brwon and grey sage streaked you know what for a night and lick the dew off those sweet delicate flower petals.

                                                God it turns me on like crazy thinking about that and I'm sure she's hip to it, but I daren't ever broach it with her... I mean I've wanted to tell her so many times how i feel, but I'd hate to ask her to comprimise her marriage or whatever just to indulge my desire to get in her pants and bury my face in her you know what... not that I don't appreciate her on more levels than that, I do, I mean that's part of what makes her so attractive, all the levels there are to appreciate.... that's the allure of the "witchy" woman. I mean would you rather play a flashy new Taylor or a pre-war Martin guitar? Duh, that's a no brainer, but some people don't "get it" too each their own... And, speaking of rich complex overtones, did I mention her voice ???... Holy crap Luana??!! Every time that sweet nightingale voice comes out of her I just about dies of longing, and she always picks these really sexy and suggestive old Celtic songs to sing.

                                                Man, i mean its KILLING me just being around her everytime we have a practice or a gig. I don't know if I can take it anymore! sometimes my hearts feels as though its about to burst open and split in two...

                                                I mean, just LOVE those sexy witches and I'm a total "sucker' for them if you know what I mean..... and 'witchy' women.... in all shapes and sizes.... Mmmm, yum! I mean no shallow floozy little HD could ever put me in so much agony as one of those, I mean forget about it! No contest!

                                                but however, i do have to say I don't like the luciferian energy that's gotten all mixed in with that "pagan" scene.... not my thing, steer clear of that. just for the record, and I don't like the ones that get into the black magic stuff. I guess I tend to like one's with more warmer colors too or green-goldish..
                                                • Unsu...
                                                   
                                                  Daisy,

                                                  I love my mom. Even though she has pretty much destroyed my adult life with many of the actions she's taken in relation to me. I know she was only doing what she thought to be right.
                                                  Anyway, I know my mom has blame for me that she has acted out besides just doing what she thought was right that has influenced her actions... I dont' think she really has the ability to move this though. I think she is too fragmented. I have moved a lot about this and I am sure I have a lot more to move, but at the moment I feel mostly grief for the deep splits in my family and the nagging question of how to find and heal my responibilty for them never leaves me even as I struggle to remember my own innocence in it all.
                                                  • Unsu...
                                                     
                                                    I think having no moderator would be the best bet for this tribe at this time. Its obvious to me that no one here has enough trust for anyone else or themselves for that matter to treat them lovingly and not use the power to silence them as a way of dealing with the charge, andas i saw it the whole time i was moderator people just kept acting out their mistrust and hatred of someone else being in a position of power towards me as their primary target. I tried to do it, but it was thankless and horrible and frankly I'm glad its over. I felt I had the right idea but no one really ever understood me though I tried my best to be transparent. Too much charge yet.... I accept it now and am okay with it, now. I would have liked it if my way of doing it could have worked, but its not the most important thing to me. My sanity is more important, and also I think that perhaps given the amount of mistrust there is here, that perhaps gaps could be worked thorugh more easily this way.
                                            • Luana

                                              I'm still waiting for you to explain, why you felt the need to praise and defend Nathan on Mothers Place ? Why not here to begin with that praising?

                                              I take it you figure, Nathan is just getting a lot of undeserved, unwarranted bad rap from me and other people here that are fed up with his moderating style?

                                              Fine, don't answer my question and in the future please don't respond to anything I have say here on RUOW group, until your ready to back up your comments about the man from the Badlands or is that in North Dakota ?

                                              Hey, Nathan thanks for deleting all my previous threads from here, including your reposting of the "Touchy Subject thread "

                                              I heard through the grapevine a while back about some Repulsive Troll person, was stiring a lot unbridled feathers from Wolf Creek Faries, tribe, but didn't get the details. Gee, I wonder if they got asked if they've read the books too?

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