Where are you at in this process?

topic posted Fri, June 19, 2009 - 9:43 AM by  Rae
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Hi everyone,

I thought it might be good to do a round of updates?

Please no arguments on this thread - just an update of how you are and where you are at in your process.

It would be nice to hear from everyone...even those who are often silent. Please say what feels right for you.

I will start:

I'm up in Minnesota enjoying the beginning of summer. It’s HOT here now, but it’s a nice change and I am enjoying the wilderness here and my garden when I have time. I am still moving through a lot of grief and each day has its misery and blessings. I read the series completly a few years ago and re-read a few of the books but now I have been reading Feelings Matter again. I started it when it first came out but I just could not get through it then. I picked it back up again and now it seems to be flowing and I am getting some good things out of it. I have a young son who is very emotional and it’s been a learning process for me practicing ruow as a part of my parenting, not many other parents understand what I am doing. Which can be hard but I trust in this path enough to endure. I have been meeting other people who practice ruow but have a totally different language around it, that has been fun to witness. Makes me feel like things are starting to shift and we are making progress as a whole.

Still I have much hopelessness and pain which I am feeling and crying through as it comes up.

Hugs,
Rae
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  • Nu
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    Re: Where are you at in this process?

    Fri, June 19, 2009 - 1:58 PM
    Hey, it's Nu.

    I'm in the grate Amerikan mudwest (Yeah, meant to spell it thus) until heading back to Ireland next month.

    Process-wise: still movin' & groovin'. Started the books in the mid-80's and kept w/it, am now and have been the past three years very much moving things from past lives - once there's less space taken up by held emotion the older held emotion comes on up, of course, and there's imprinting specific to my pieces' original cause I'm still working on.............when there's spare time, I like to hang out with homeless people.
  • Re: Where are you at in this process?

    Fri, June 19, 2009 - 2:04 PM
    Hello Rae and everyone else here June 19/09

    An excellent idea to have a thread like this.

    I reside in Edmonton, Alberta now for the last 7 years. Just started reading Heart Song for the 3rd time.

    The state of where I'm living is worrisome, as I have strong suspecions that my landlord owner/manager of the building is helping himself to my belongings when I'm not not at nome. I changed the dead bolt but Alberta tenant & landlord act says i must provide my landlord with a key to my suite or I can be evicted. Now i've been giving the landlord the cold shoulder and a confrotation to explain my situation with him is inevitable I'm going to have to confront him in a indirect way and mention my need to purchase nanny cams. I suspect he might tell me to look for another place to live. I've changed the deadbolt twice now and am procrastinating about giving him a key.

    I'm currently unemployed and having real issues with my lower back which I hurt at my last job. I've been to the chiropractor and foot reflexologists. For a while it got better now its returned to painful place. I'm still searching for my "I can win judgement for my life ". I find myself living in much fear, inadequacies of being able to change the state of my life with effective judgement release and being able to move terror. Its been hard to be filled with Loving Light when I 'm not virating enough to be receptive to it.

    Not being able to connect with a woman for companionship has its needing hurts for me. I gave up with on-line dating to effect this recently.

    I moved some tears and rage in my car today at the airport with feelings of powerlessness to change my situation ( A secluded, private place) and now I'm wanting to drink a little.

    Thanxs for listening, Wonderious Loon
    • Re: Where are you at in this process?

      Fri, June 19, 2009 - 2:45 PM
      This feels good to me too. Wow. Thanks Rae, for suggesting a check in like this!

      I am sitting in my roach infested apartment with all my belongings packed and ready to move. I started packing over a MONTH ago. I move next month. Not until almost the end of the month. I am moving into a BRAN NEW building, I am getting one more bedroom than I have now, and a dishwasher and balcony. I asked for at least ONE thing out of my new place that I don't have now; turns out I deserve more than I thought. I'm getting FOUR new things! An extra bedroom, a patio, a dishwasher, and NO BUGS!! Hows that for movin' on up, eh? I guess I've been doing my work.:)

      This apartment I am living in now is my very first apartment alone. I am 44 years old and I am living on my own for the first time in this life. Another AWESOME reward for all the hard work I am doing.

      I have a team of people helping to make this happen for me. All I did was tell the truth and ask for help, and it's turning out WAY better than I EVER imagined!

      The place I am moving in to is a totally GREEN building, with Solar generated electricity, a roof top covered in trees, plants and flowers, and geo-thermal heating radiating out of the WALLS, and NO BUGS!! WHAT THA FUCK!! Do I really deserve all this!!! Turns out I do! YAAY ME! I AM TOTALLY AWESOME!

      I started reading RUoW in 1999, so I guess I have been at it for 10 years now. I've read the books over and over, in order, and just picking them up and opening to something that is USUALLY helpful if not triggering. Some days I curse the day I ever found RUoW, but most days I feel grateful and fortunate.

      I am gaining awareness every day, I hear Mother and Father within me now sometimes. I move MASSIVE amounts of heartbreak and pain as often as I can. My heart is shattered, but it's also on the mend.

      I live on the west coast, Portland Oregon, to be exact. I was born in Seattle Washington and lived there most of my life. I can't imagine NOT living within hours of the mighty ocean. I NEED the waters, all around me. If you look at a map of Portland, you can see that I live in the arms of two rivers, both of which empty into the ocean.

      This morning I woke up hating myself and had a good meltdown over it. I felt much better afterwards, and got the call that I had been approved for my new place. I started my moon today and my back hurts, so I'm just gonna stay in bed, watch movies and rest.

      I have issues with food and drugs and alcohol. When my partner left, I lost my appetite, and about 80 pounds, and my sobriety. Every day, eating is a difficult chore. I'm terrified of getting fat again, but I am also terrified of dying of starvation. I just can't seem to WANT to eat, and nothing ever sounds good to me. I love to smoke pot and drink red wine. I also smoke ciggies. I almost let go completely a few months back, but then I found a bed bug, freaked out, and started smoking my brains out again. *sigh* I'm so glad I'm moving.

      I was sober for 5 years. I don't regret using again because I am learning why I did it the first time around, and why I am doing it now. I have a lot more compassion and acceptance for myself around this. I am letting Body and Will lead the way, even tho it terrifies me and I am finding so much wrongness and self hatred within me to evolve.

      I am really hard on myself sometimes. Loving me is the hardest thing I have ever had to learn to do, but I am making really good headway. My head is peeking out of the hell pit I was born into, and I am beginning to really believe for the first time in my life that, things are gonna get better, and I will be ok.

      Love you all so much,
      Daisy

      P.S. Thank you, all of you for doing this work. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for
      those of you who came before and did as Spirit asked. :)
      • Re: Where are you at in this process?

        Fri, June 19, 2009 - 3:18 PM
        Thanks for sharing your story here , Daisy! Its giving me hope with this process.


        Warm reguards, Robert- W.L.
        • Re: Where are you at in this process?

          Fri, June 19, 2009 - 10:20 PM
          Thanks Robert. I like saying your real name. It's more personal. Thanks for that.

          And thank you for sharing too. I hope that more folks will share. I'm hungry for more details about the people I'm in this struggle, I mean process, with. I really want to know more about everyone, who you are, what you do, where you go, how you love and hate, EVERYTHING. I find it all very interesting, inspiring, and encouraging.
  • Rae
    Rae
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    Re: Where are you at in this process?

    Tue, June 23, 2009 - 10:42 AM
    Bumping this up.....

    Thanks to those who have shared....but I would love to hear from more folks?????

    Anyone else care to say a few words about yourself - please do!

    :)

    Rae
    • Re: Where are you at in this process?

      Sat, June 27, 2009 - 7:56 PM
      I'm sorry to say I've been away from the group for quite a while and so much has hapened to me in that time that I really don't know where to begin, but I'll encapsulate it if I can, I hit rock bottom in Arizona after almost 2 years there and doing well for a while, then things unravelled. I returned to Mass. around Xmas of last year and tho it felt tgood to be back I spiralled into a massive, debilitating depression which I'm taking meds for which I was most resistant to do so right now I'm struggling with just about everything and am feeling like giving up, hope this doesn't bum you all out but I wanted to tell my story, thanks.
      • Re: Where are you at in this process?

        Sat, June 27, 2009 - 8:38 PM
        Thanxs for sharing your struggle, Paul.

        I have often been where you are at.

        Yours respectfully, Robert-W.L.
        • Re: Where are you at in this process?

          Sun, June 28, 2009 - 1:27 PM
          Thanks for sharing, Paul. Nice to hear from you. I can relate on the depression and medication thing. Hang in there.

          Love,
          Daisy
          • Re: Where are you at in this process?

            Mon, July 13, 2009 - 2:14 PM
            dear Paul I'm impressed with your honest and open post here. I'm also just coming back around to a RUoW forum after taking a break from www RUoW activities for years. Even so, RUoW has continued to work me in my hermitage, I doubt that I will ever revert to the pre RUoW person i was, and that is a good thing. Whenever I feel overwhelmed by this process I try to remember what I was like prior to getting this information, then I get grateful real fast. For the past several years after a heartbreaking break-up I had to face oodles of lost Will that wants to give-up, has very little vibration because it has been unmoving for so friggin long.

            I wouldn't waste a moment regretting the anti-deppressant route....sometimes we have to ask for help. I know for me, asking for help usually comes after EXHAUSTING every option that I can dream up. Today I heard a study that proves cursing helps relieve pain....so, I guess RUoW is right on!

            I was fortunate enough to go into a very remote place and move my denied rage at the top of my lungs for years....I do believe this changed my life for the better, but it definitely did not help me make a single penny. they be wanting pennies everywhere I go....this is the real problem that I had to cope with as a result of resonating with the material. How does one make a living while not over-riding their will? Can be a very frightening dead-end, as I found out in the forest.

            being broke and aware of the dangers of over-riding my will to make a living is the crux of the RUoW challenge that can serve to force us to work together....and, over the years, as a result of being part of various RUoW groups and forums, we have a long way to go in regard to liking and helping one another....what a conundrum!
  • Re: Where are you at in this process?

    Wed, July 15, 2009 - 1:50 PM
    applying it
    using it in tandem with other teachings (principia discordia, astrology)
    knowing that RUOW is The Light And Darkness at the end of the tunnel


    as it says -- the quest for understanding and BALANCE



    seeing that almost EVERYONE NEEDS IT,
    and as such, since i've been with it ten years
    humbly thankful for the HUGE LIFE ADVANTAGE it gives


    feeling my feelings innocently without shame
    enjoying feelings like tears of joy and anguish, rage and love without GUILT.


    i use it with godchannel.com online....
  • Re: Where are you at in this process?

    Wed, August 5, 2009 - 5:53 PM
    I started reading RUOW 15 years ago. Had to wait for Indigo to come out and it seemed like forever before it was published. Then it turned out to be the most horrific book I've ever read. Still sends chills down my spine. I can't help but think about the monkey lives, then I'm off on a crying jag. Sorry about the typing errors, I'm just so emotional...again.

    I live in the Midwest in a very rural area. No longer have chickens, but wish I did. The 4 dogs and 6 cats keep me pretty busy. I can't pass up a lost puppy or kitten.

    I moved so much since the GodChannel forum. I was so triggered by the Channelers there I was almost destroyed.

    Later on, I actually made myself ill by processing too much. Poor body had to take on the pain and suffering I thought I was releasing through screaming, crying, cowering in the forest. But, it seems I forgot what God said about moving along too fast and I charged right on past my denials. They came back home to their creator and bit me hard, real hard.

    I developed epilepsy 2 years ago and the seizures are so frequent now that I can't remember what I just walked into a room to do. And, I will most definitely have to retire early. I am having surgery on Friday. I hope everything turns out ok. Prayers will be greatly appreciated. My Body just shivered. I'm so sorry Body. Thank you for being the loyal and faithful animal you have been for me to place myself into. I cry for us both and I'm so, so sorry.

    For those who state people are not moving, not moving fast enough, have never moved; well, they need to sit down and have a long discussion with their selves and their feelings. Listening to my feelings regarding my healing cycle came too late for me. I can remember going past my feelings and denials now.

    I wanted so hard to heal quickly because God said it was urgent. He was wrong as usual. There is no quick fix. He would like to believe there's one, but there isn't. His guilt is still not moving. He forgets we cannot leave one Being behind and some of us are carrying a heavy duty load. Slow down, take it easy on yourself. I truly feel there is no rush now. It feels to me like we've turned the corner and we are 55% there. Still a lot of work to do, but don't require of yourself that you do it all. And, especially don't require of others to do it all. Maybe they're not ready, just like you're not ready.

    People need to move, OR NOT, in the best way they can. If nothing feels like moving, then don't move. Sit still and listen for Mother's small voice inside even if you have to make up the part you believe she would say to you. Eventually, you won't have to do that any more and it will be her/you talking to the Glorious Being you are.

    My main request and advice is to not go past yourself. Body will have to mop up the damage. After that, you start losing your mind/spirit and are left with remnants of yourself and all the illnesses body holds for you. It's not 2 steps forward, 1 step back. It's 2 steps forward and 4 steps back if you're not careful.

    Don't want to make this any longer so I'm going to go sit in the forest and stare off into space while the tears trickle.
    • auX
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      Re: Where are you at in this process?

      Wed, August 5, 2009 - 10:02 PM
      pink,
      I wish you the very best for your surgery,
      and yes the guilt that god and the mother,
      hold is immense,
      but is moving each day,
      it is a process for them as much as it is for us.
      please take good care of your body,
      and love yourself.
      aD
      • Nu
        Nu
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        Re: Where are you at in this process?

        Thu, August 6, 2009 - 7:09 AM
        Pink,
        thank you for the wisdom, thank you for sharing your struggle with us and thank you for the balance and grace you bring here
        i will send prayers, i will send love
        may you receive the best of blessings
        -Nu
    • Unsu...
       

      Re: Where are you at in this process?

      Thu, August 6, 2009 - 1:07 PM
      Pink,

      my prayers are with you. I am so sorry for your poor body too...

      I hope things go well and that you can be extremely gentle with yourself through the process... Thanks for sharing what you posted here....

      Love,
      Nathan
    • Re: Where are you at in this process?

      Thu, August 6, 2009 - 4:57 PM
      Pink,
      All the best with healing your body.
      Many people i know in RU have serious medical issues right now and it scares me both directly with each of them and me and then also in general. Why and why so late and why if we moved so much?

      I also think you are very right on what you say about moving and that Lucifer has compelled us to move adn to feel guilty when we are not moving and whipped us on sometimes when we have not realized it. I realize this is my take on what you said and not your words or perhaps even something you will agree with.

      Lucifer really got hooks into fear in ways that have hurt us.

      Rest is good. Right time is good. Small little shifts, when we move from a slightly different place for a few seconds can be incredibly more healing than hours of screaming from the same spots.
      • Re: Where are you at in this process?

        Thu, August 6, 2009 - 6:06 PM
        Thank you all for your good wishes and prayers. I'm filled with trepidation.

        It is MHO that no one of us can heal the rest of us. But, we have an intrinsic desire to do so and that's the path to pain and illness. We must work on ourselves first and foremost. It's like that speech they use on airplanes...put the mask on yourself first and then on your child because if you pass out, the child is a goner. This is very hard for parents to do and we have an analogy to that in the books.

        I do agree with what you said. I haven't thought of Luci for a long time. I believe he is being pulled back to his right place and had his powers very minimalized. Or, it's just me and I don't think about him or feel him any more.

        A good exercise I do is tree hugging. It has to be a big tree, one that you cannot get your arms all the way around. Then I imagine myself feeling what the tree feels, eventually, you become the tree and it's the most calming and relaxing thing I've found to do. Always thank the tree afterward and turn to the left when you walk away. I'm getting the calming feeling just writing about it.

        Healing doesn't all have to be about screaming/crying. There are many modalities for healing and I'm open to most all of them. If anyone else has an exercise they like to do for healing, please share with us. Thanks.
        • Unsu...
           

          Re: Where are you at in this process?

          Fri, August 7, 2009 - 6:05 PM
          Hi Pink,

          I have to say you feel very solid and confident in your acceptance of where you're at and like you have a real good handle on things for someone who is going through something so incredibly horrific and trying. Is that how you really feel inside? I would be scared shitless and terrified out of my mind if I were facing what you are. I already am, and my problems don't seem nearly so huge but i guess its all relative, right?

          I did a judgment release session of the releases in Indigo last night pgs. (140-141 & 170-171). Ever done that? I very HIGHLY recommend it....

          Anyway, I guess what I'm saying here is probably not all that comforting, but I hope its helpful on some level. The tree hugging thing sounds nice.

          May God hold you in His Loving Arms tonight.

          Nathan

          • Re: Where are you at in this process?

            Fri, August 7, 2009 - 6:48 PM
            Hi Pink

            I just read your post


            I appreciate what you are saying about tree's, which is why I am a forester....amen
            I will plant some tree's and vines in your honor this week
            it's the least i can do


            I was terribly sick for the past three years- I contacted a disease in Israel in 06
            I had to face some very rigid mortality issues and write about this in my new book pangasm

            I offer this to you for free

            tribe.net the tribe is pangasm

            i just posted this today
            i hope it helps

            it's about the electromagnetic conduit of personality
            from me with love to you
            get well soon
            i am praying for you
            • Re: Where are you at in this process?

              Fri, August 7, 2009 - 7:11 PM
              Pink....i just read this thread.....
              i cant do anything right now but spit poison

              Can you emagine how i might feel about You haveing surgery

              its makeing my survival ring like a fire alarm.....kinda dizzy....maybe a feeling of falling....now tingly feet and hands....a buzz comeing up my legs from below...man i gotta sit with this.....i swear to God, if i can cut the cards with the devil for you.....i will
        • Re: Where are you at in this process?

          Fri, August 7, 2009 - 7:17 PM
          Indeed! Tree hugging. One can expand on it; can ask permission first. Sink in, experience it. Can fall deeply into the roots
          expanding that the roots are ancestors
          healers that have gone before
          and so forth
          towards the Tree of Life of it all; Grandmother, Grandfather.
          Eagles can nest

          Drumming the right drum can enhance it, til you can travel 'through there'
          see what a real problem is, rather than as a mission. One travel" spirit; another: Soul.

          There can be contacts with Guides, Upper (Celestial) or Lower (Underworld) or Earthy ones (right?)
          Say hello, what's your name-what do you have for me, that I may give in return, with Manifestation?
          One took me to recover a part of me sick with smoking 'smoke of campfires'
          More Soul than Will, I feel: a woman-Guide. Spirit? The part was chilling 400 miles away.
          Underworld travels and Guides bring/need different exercises of course. Celestial would be more care-less, right?
          Underworld: major care just to be there, and more to interact.

          So a celestial journey is the one to 'get away from it all'...There's your Tree yonder, but first you lay in a spot of grass, relaxing fully and even releasing/exchanging with 'Earth'...Do the Tree Thing. Check out Grandmother Rock and find a spot on it that's yours and check what
          Gifts she may have for you.

          Then go over to your Guides...
          Have a password to get in...
          :p

          Releases, Thanks...

          These and many more exercises can be found at...

          :)

          Once (before some training) a tree and I dreamed of each other. A great Tree for me, in New Mexico. (Met a few great trees actually). Like an Ent it picked me up and placed me with, next to

          Matthew Broderick.
          ('don't ask me'-did/does he have something for me, I for him, or has he had a place if I was so 'homeless'?)

          No clues ever came up. But these things are usually 'right'.
          Thanks
          Tcare, Pink
          • Pink

            Fri, August 7, 2009 - 7:50 PM
            we be speakin
            to pink
            we hold your gossamir pink
            lightly
            wondering
            all the time wondering
            wondering

            pink
            are u there?
            will you still play along?
            can u tell us what it is like
            in case we want to come be with you there?
            I know that pink has been lost
            lost
            to the arching electromagnetic violence
            of
            doubt


            goodness
            how could doubt
            allow

            how is it that doubt
            could get permission to float that domino?

            that's right
            float that domino

            doubt had a son
            he couldn't decide what wwas true

            at first
            he had feellings
            that ideas discounted
            and then she showed up to school his puny ass

            oh pink
            do you know how much you are missed
            as you arch
            between North and South
            always
            in a dire exchange
            rapid in it's approach and
            florence nightengale in her
            ever-present
            willingness
            even
            willing to see both sides simultaneously with
            no heart conduit to get her there
            it's just a pumping
            hhemmorhagging linear butt chase!
            but she siddles up to the edge of the abyss
            and takes a joan pose
            daring to take the leap
            to see
            oh dare to see
            • Daring in her abandon

              Fri, August 7, 2009 - 8:01 PM
              did i say that?
              u are so daring
              i see u
              is that u?

              pink
              i have so much to learn from u
              but first
              i guess i must revive your will to live?
              is that how you got there my sweetness?

              let me know
              what did u need to get you to tomorrow?

              that's right,
              a conduit
              honey baby sweetie pie
              its a conduit
              not a new body
              or a new personality
              or a new whatever
              haven't we thrown enough away already?
              now we must let you go too?
              fuck and double fuck
              i just don't want to show up for more loss

              now, that i heard u
              i know you are there doing your best
              and it is so fucked
              the electromagnetic storm you are caught within
              is something you can address right now
              i gave you a gift at pangasm
              i have mapped the gap
              on an electromagnetic pre-personal level
              i hope
              oh Lluana hope isn't dead she is your heart here with pink and me
              we'll find her
              but pink,
              i hope you can simply understand the principle of pangasm to see the vantage i have about this elemental insight
              about the 5 elements and the 4 parts of personality. The arching that epileptics are connected to in the collective has to do with the citadel between blue and green - it is a double heart chakra -- the missing color, is pink the sweet part

              the part that is willing to take so much responsibility that it will make the leap of faith to help the other's decide whether or not to cross the river they had approached. pink is the heroine


              and






























              the designer
              • Re: Daring in her abandon

                Fri, August 7, 2009 - 8:08 PM
                sweetness
                I am having a revelation about pink
                even though I wrote volumes about it

                about the electromagnetic paradox of the 3rd dimension
                pink is the missing link in worldly knowledge of the rainbo

                since you are arching between North and South, as in epileptic short-circuitry, please be open to me here

                pangasm is -- published at the tribe pangasm and can be understood rapidly for someone of your openness and rapid ability....it is an overview of the electromagnetic conundrum all people are suffering from now, you have your index finger on the red button pink
                i love your heart
                • Re: Daring in her abandon

                  Sat, August 8, 2009 - 8:02 AM
                  Thank you Andora, Luana, Nathan and Scott for your kind words. I really can use them right now.

                  My incisions are so sore I feel like I can't breathe. The pain medication doesn't seem to be helping.

                  Scott, thanks for correcting about the trees. You definitely need to ask the tree first because it might be busy doing something else. Once you ask the tree, if you get a good feeling that it's ok to work with it. If you get know feeling or a chill, the trees is busy and you must move on to another. It's important to get a grandmother/grandfather tree that is really big around. Young trees have not matured enough and/or experienced enough to be able to help.

                  I love trees, as you can tell

                  I feel so much warmth in this thread. Thank you all so much.
                • Re: Daring in her abandon

                  Mon, August 10, 2009 - 6:22 AM
                  Thanks Andora, I'm not sure I understand what you are saying about the color pink.

                  I'll be sure to check out your pangasm site.

                  Thank you.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: Daring in her abandon

                    Mon, August 10, 2009 - 8:43 AM
                    de nada pink

                    i was caught in the sing song of drinking a few ale's and wondering how pink is after her leap of faith

                    I've been trying to understand the pink part of the heart as it relates to my own leaps of faith

                    I think pink is the sweetness in the double heart chakra - most people think their is green between yellow and blue, and there is.
                    but with green, is the twin heart chakra - the cross over - PINK - long lost heart daughter - precious

                    the Chinese realize there is a double mirridian in the heart, the cross over twin with green - green and pink

                    green and pink are either lovers, or simply not talking, as in the Battle of the Sexes electromagnetic conundrum I describe in the principle of panGasm.

                    in the motion picture industry pink and green are used to create 3 dimensional movies - green has a pink shadow which gives a dimensional depth to an otherwise 1 dimensional flat image. by overlaying pink and green the image takes on the 3rd dimension of depth

                    when the heart was blown out in the smack, pink had to take a leap to either the upper 3 chakra's or the lower 3 chakra's, which is part of the reason pink took a leap of faith and jumped. her essence has only been around the edges trying to hold it together with major portions of herself languishing in the unmoving lower realm (it's on the move now, but in the past was a huge waiting game) or the tornado-like upper realm

                    pink continues to take a leap between these two poles, which is why i am discussing the rapid switch-back that comes from living in a constant reversal - the gap

                    the way the electric archs past the heart in order to connect with the magnetic root is violent much like the rapid electrical storm in epileptic seizures

                    I apologize for going off as i did above....but, in essence you are speaking to the upper chakra me now, but when i drank the ale, you were hearing the lower chakra voice which has less hope, but is daring to hope, none-the-less -- under a tremendous amount of pressure. Which is why focusing on pink and the role of missing daughter heart is meaningful enough for me to write prose about it....i'm singing a tune like a canary in a coal mine dear

                    mahalo for your aloha pink

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