How?

topic posted Wed, October 21, 2009 - 6:32 PM by  Daisy
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I just don't know how you guys do it. How you talk so much! Paragraphs and paragraphs of words! I can't keep up; my will won't even let me read it. I think that's why I have unsubbed from so many groups. Too much talk and very little movement going on. I can feel it, can't you, Luana? All these mental mental concepts! Sheesh! Makes my head spin. I just got finished telling a friend that "figuring" was for numbers. She totally got what I was saying, cause she's a real smart ruow lady. So are you, Luana. Now you've really got a way with words. Graceful and colorful and charming, even when you are mad. Luana, you make me laugh so much! Thank you for bringing it and for staying present here. I made fresh grape juice today from grapes that grow down the street! So sweet and yummy, like harvest! I was thinking of you as I was picking them!

Love you!
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  • Re: How?

    Wed, October 21, 2009 - 7:35 PM
    Hi Daisy, yes it is really sad, as soon as i got to this forum i felt like billy the kid with all these gunslingers waiten to be the one who took down "the kid," ....It was like the shoot out at ok corral...some of then were just reading the first or second book when they got highly triggered by me on the wiki gay ass seth site, so sence these people didnt really DO the perscribed movement they were like stuck in groundhog's day, and still gunnen for me....I came here to deliver a few messages about the issue of eugenics etc. but, never got to cause i spend all my time fighting off the gunslingers...

    Love
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    Re: How?

    Wed, October 21, 2009 - 7:52 PM
    I don't know what you're talking about Daisy.

    I'm not talking a lot lately. I'm talking sparsely.... Nor am I posting concepts. I'm positng about how I feel, maybe everyone else is too. Maybe its just that you're not connecting to it.
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      Re: How?

      Wed, October 21, 2009 - 8:12 PM
      which is fine i guess, but it doesn't mean anything about anyone else, just about you.
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        Re: How?

        Wed, October 21, 2009 - 8:46 PM
        i suppose you already know that, but i just feel like being a dick to you and telling you anyway because i am taking your post as being a personally about me cause of how you timed it right after my posting today....

        blah blah blah...

        anyway, i've been appreciating you somewhat lately.
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          Re: How?

          Wed, October 21, 2009 - 8:53 PM
          but in general things here feel really shitty to me lately.
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            fire breathing dragons

            Wed, October 21, 2009 - 10:44 PM
            I" just don't know how you guys do it. How you talk so much!

            daisy,
            I am not quite sure why you and your side kick still come here,
            if you dont like the talking then why dont you go to your private site where
            the two of you can become your cult without all the riff-raff,
            I have to say you have a specific pattern of communication,

            first you post long tirades about how you hate everything,
            and you are the victim, of course,
            then you top that with self-loathing,
            then you say you want to die,
            then we are set up to take the bait,
            and then whey somebody takes the bait,
            you reverse on them and say leave me alone, you dont understand poor me,

            you and your side kick have such long boring posts,
            searing everybody with your dragons breathe,
            and talking about the pan concoctions you are making,
            so you can get "high" and do things that you can later deny,
            cuz you were too stoned.
            like writing the shit you post here.
            auX
            • Re: fire breathing dragons

              Thu, October 22, 2009 - 11:51 AM
              Daisy, these people who suck up our beautiful posts and than spin them around in their hatefull, judgement filled, minds, and, feed them back to us in projected, hatred, they are just lucifer's little yapping dogs relentlessly trying to denie LOST Mother Her rightfull position as a way to bring Her down....lucifer knows if He can send out enough heinneas to snarl around LOST, Mother's ragged and sick, and demoralized, form, he can eventually put Her into reversal and make Her show Her ugly face so they can point at Her and say "look She is not the Mother, She is a bitch, you dont want HER for a Mother, do you'?

              aDD comes here and mumbles little snippets of ruow. I believe she/he ? is just thumbing threw some books that she found somewhere, pulling out exerpts, and useing them against Mother, but, i tell you if she/he? REALY did read the books, she/he? would not have to post little, short,,cryptic, posts that do nothing but discredit Mothers who REALY did read the books....and all that jealousy.

              Nathan, he HATES woman, especally REAL Mothers, probly cause the Mother of his Children gave his kids away and skipped off to who knows where.....every day he has to look at the shambles of his life and know that he is alone and iceolated and shamed by a goddamn mother!.....and, thats ok, we ALL fucked up with our kids before we figured out what luciferian programs we were running on, but, he just can not get past the guilt, like we did, and drop his case against Mother, He likes to exalt the lowest common denominater of mothers, like the way he sides with any old mother contender who drives by this forun....and attacks and judges against any REAL Mother essence here.

              WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REAL MEN OF THIS PROCESS?

              Every so often Nu drops by to give the REAL Mothers a little light, but the rest of them???? no where to be seen.....I am wondering if they all have abandoned the process by now?

              I know this guy who has a meth ministry and he takes in, and, rehabs meth heads....He has worked with hundreds of meth heads....The other day i asked him, "Bob, In all the meth heads you have ever worked with, how many have You actually healed of their lust for meth," ? ....Bod says, "You know Lu. i gotta tell ya the truth....NONE! .... I THOUGHT I had this one guy, but i see he has also gone back to meth"

              This is how God sees the ruow men....they just dont "get it," lucifer's program against Mother is just too effective for them to rise out of.

              God has a bunch of purple/blue Mothers who are sideing with Him now, they are all doing just fine and patting themselfs on the back for how "evolved," they are, like Andy....These are the same "devine will," mother contenders who are used to hearing God's voice, because they have always been close to them, every sence they positioned themselfs close to Him, right between Him and Mother, of course..... They are now the premadonna "channelers," of his words on ruow sites, and, books

              But the REAL...."LOST WILL, MOTHER PARTS" , the Ones who He has NEVER been able to reach, the parts of LOST MOTHER that MUST be reached if ANYTHING in this universe is to survive.....They are woman like Daisy, and, MANY other LOST Mother parts that i can name.

              I see You Daisy, and, so does God, and, it is YOU who is His prime directive, now, not these premadonna, "devine will," parts who have ALWAYS kissed his ass while ALL claiming to be the real Mother.


              • Re: fire breathing dragons

                Thu, October 22, 2009 - 3:04 PM
                Poor Daisy and Luana,
                they get no light from the men here. People suck up their beautiful posts.
                If only they could communicate somehow with eachother without us reading their posts so that we can hurt them.
                If ony they had a group somewhere where they could communicate with people who are not babies.
                I can't think of solution.
                The only thing left to do is come and complain to each other and hope that the other people read their posts and realize how bad they are, like the cool girls in high school gossiping about the uncool at the school loud enough for the uncool to hear them so they know their place.

                It must be great that at least after 20 odd years of moving you can act like those people in high school.
                • Re: fire breathing dragons

                  Thu, October 22, 2009 - 3:07 PM
                  Luana,
                  fuck you for revealing private stuff about Nathan that may or may not be true.
                  Fuck you for that.
                  You are destructive. You don't express feelings, you try to find a way to hurt.

                  And Daisy, you do not know the difference between fluid expression of feelings and rage convergences
                  where other emotions all get channeled into rage attck and smash.

                  Just keep encouraging Luana to stay in that response to anythign that disturbs her. She may not catch your intent, but I do.
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                    Re: fire breathing dragons

                    Thu, October 22, 2009 - 3:13 PM
                    Worm....like you give a flying fuck WHAT anybody says about Nathan....
                    and, i thought everybody knew about Nathan's kids....everybody on GC did.....
                    i had no idea he was keeping it a big secret here.

                    Yeah, Him and his "wife," ? gave the kids, two little girls, to one of his relitives to raise like 10 years ago....
                    whats the big deal?....was that saposed to be a big secret?
                    • Re: fire breathing dragons

                      Thu, October 22, 2009 - 4:06 PM
                      Luana said,
                      Worm....like you give a flying fuck WHAT anybody says about Nathan....

                      I know, only you and Daisy care about anyone.

                      I have no idea if he is keeping it a big secret, but you know what you were doing when you tossed it out here.
  • Re: How?

    Thu, October 22, 2009 - 9:05 AM
    Daisy,
    yet another post judging people other than Luana.
    Yet another mental post on your part.
    Yet another post reacting rather than feeling.

    Me, I move offline, when I am not typing.
    • Re: How?

      Thu, October 22, 2009 - 3:30 PM
      God Nathan, thanks alot for giveing me a ixnay on the iddies k, info, heads up....if i knew this was all a big secrte here i probably wouldnt have been a andora snitch and busted you out....everybody on GC forum knew it, i thought it was common knowledge....

      If it is true that you didnt want anybody here to know that....well....you are even wierder than i thought you were.
      • Re: How?

        Thu, October 22, 2009 - 3:34 PM
        Dont you worrie your tiny, empty, head, wormie....
        there are PLENTY of ruow oldies who lurk this forum....
        they see exactly whats going on too.
        • Re: How?

          Thu, October 22, 2009 - 3:58 PM
          Daisy, thank god this is your thread....Nathan doesnt want anybody to know about his kids.....this is the thread i accidently busted him out on....why dont you just deleet this thread before he has a phycotic break or something K ?
        • Re: How?

          Thu, October 22, 2009 - 4:07 PM
          Luana said,
          Dont you worrie your tiny, empty, head, wormie....
          there are PLENTY of ruow oldies who lurk this forum....
          they see exactly whats going on too.

          Sorry Luana, this kind of stuff may work on isolated people, but it comes off as just silly to me.
          • Re: How?

            Thu, October 22, 2009 - 4:09 PM
            and just to be clear. I don't know if Nathan cares if that information is out here or not. But it was a shitty way to lash out.
            Luana just tries to find something to smash people with.
            • Re: How?

              Thu, October 22, 2009 - 5:37 PM
              Luana asked
              WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REAL MEN OF THIS PROCESS?

              Now let me see if I get this straight. Luana is close to this group of 'oldtimers', real deep super movers. Since she is wondering where the real men are, these 'oldtimers' must be 99% women, if they exist at all. Since Luana does not know where the real RU men are, these oldtimers don't know either or they are not telling her. Who are these people who have no contact with real ruer men? What haven't they moved?
              • Re: How?

                Thu, October 22, 2009 - 6:51 PM
                It is no small wonder why the FR site refers to the readers as "She," ....cause yeah, most of the ruow men have peeked out and than relapsed into Mother hateing, or, never really got it in the first place.....I know some real ruow heavy "men," who "get it," on many levels but i only know one who doesnt just fizzle when it comes to "geting it," on the Mother level, and that would be the F.A.....and Nu is pretty sweet too, Oh and Kodiac in van couver.....the rest of you so called "men." are pretty much obsoleet......Leighnot is ok but he still doesnt get it on the Mother level at least last time i checked....niether does Red Dust Cloud....even if he IS dead....but the F.A. now theres a Man !
                • Re: How?

                  Thu, October 22, 2009 - 6:55 PM
                  A REAL ruow Man would never dream of "debateing," a Mother, no matter WHAT She says....

                  A REAL RUOW Man has read GC and is following God's lead on how to treat a Lady NOW....
                  but you turkeys wouldnt know about that.
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                    Re: How?

                    Thu, October 22, 2009 - 7:11 PM
                    You are not a category, Luana. You are just you.

                    And the fact that you and your oldtimers are not in contact with real ruoer men is telling.
                    • Re: How?

                      Thu, October 22, 2009 - 7:16 PM
                      Oh we are in contact with them, just on different and i must say higher levels than we are with the dregs of the likes of the ruow mother hateing, dorks here on this forum
                      • Re: How?

                        Thu, October 22, 2009 - 7:22 PM
                        And now you say you are in contact with them. Then why the moaning about WHERE ARE THE REAL RU MEN?

                        I can't keep up with your BS.
                      • Re: How?

                        Thu, October 22, 2009 - 7:24 PM
                        Luana said,
                        "Oh we are in contact with them, just on different and i must say higher levels than we are with the dregs of the likes of the ruow mother hateing, dorks here on this forum"
                        But you keep coming back.
                        Liar.
                    • Re: How?

                      Thu, October 22, 2009 - 7:21 PM
                      And this weird idea that mother fragments should never get called on their shit or be disagreed with or debated, that is just loopy, old mother on earth, feral queen shit. I don't know who these oldtimers of yours are, if they exist, but they have been selling you a load of crap or they don't know any better to call you on it. Balanced two way relationships, where everyone knows we are all damaged and somewhere in there running on imprinting, Mothers, Fathers, Daughters, Sons, manifest spirits, everyone. There is likely a connection between you not knowing real right use men and whatever you are avoiding by thinking everyone not Mother must bow down to you.
                    • Re: How?

                      Thu, October 22, 2009 - 7:25 PM
                      I already explained that, ...and where did the word "catagory," come from ?....
                      Man you just gotta be on nut meds or something is wrong with your brain, maybe just ruow ineptness, but it sounds like nut meds.
                      • Re: How?

                        Thu, October 22, 2009 - 7:31 PM
                        The WILL heals a thousand times faster if it is given 100% acceptance....Mother Essence is the most Sacred and, sensitive essence in ALL of creation....Maybe 10 years ago it was kind of ok for a ruow man to "debate," a Mother, but that window of oppertunity has been closed due to the shortness of time left....ALL ruow "men," who still want to "debate," Mother essence are going off Earth, and, dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way off fuckers !
                        • Re: How?

                          Thu, October 22, 2009 - 7:40 PM
                          Oh but ruow guys like you....you still got lucifer whispering in your ear....
                          "yeah thats right buddy, give the bitch no acceptance unless she gets down on her knees and licks your sweaty balls....yeah, that will keep her from healing !....yeah, that will teach the bitch a lesson ...give her nothing but a hard time, give her NO acceptance, and what EVER you do DO NOT be flirtatious with her....that will keep the bitch from shinning brite...and, than when we finally kill the bitch off by denieing everything she has to say....the whole planet will be ours ! ....than it will be YOU who will be my little slave faggot instead of her ! Thats what you want isnt it? a world with no WILL to dispute you....isnt it?
                        • Re: How?

                          Thu, October 22, 2009 - 7:43 PM
                          Just make up the rules. But I get more and more a sense of how isolated you are Luana, you and your oldtimers. The funny thing is the mothers I know, both in and out of RU are not stuck in old rage mother patterns like you are. So I have nothing like this pattern with them. None of them, not one would have pulled the shit you just pulled with Nathan. Every single one of them, whether they were rage polarized earlier in this life or fear or grief polarized, would have understood how wrong it is for Daisy not to respect people who would rather remain anonymous here. Not a single one of them would have started selling Pangasm like it was the latest RU book. They express rage as emotion, and they don't try to find the sore spot or vulnerable point of any person they are scared of or angry at. They don't convert all their emotions in rage. They have spent time going into their confusion so that when they are confused they don't have the urge to smash things, like you do,

                          just like spirit did in the beginning. You still have that light in you, the same light that smashes what it does't understand. When you get scared.

                          You want some light from a man. Here it is:

                          reread that portion of the books where rage mothers are challenged about letting that old light that got jammed into them
                          run them.

                          You think I am being mean to you. But what I am telling you is a thousand times more loving than Daisy saying you can do no wrong and everything you do is perfect

                          because part of what you are smashing on is your own heart

                          and a bigger part of what you are smashing is your fear. I don't think you can bear how confused and scared you actually feel, so you smash anything that triggers those feelings. And in the long run, that is going to hurt you bad.

                          Some people may not realize how isolated you and whatever people you think are oldtimers are. But I know you are. You are in some weird corner

                          and, as you would say, time is running out.

                          When you call me a mother hater, you need to understand that I know this is not the case. Not because of some isolated high opinion of myself, but because of the relationships I have. You have smashed other people who were isolated with that BS for a long time and this has not helped you one bit, however much it made you feel OK in the moment.

                          And, again. Why the hell do you keep coming back to this forum or are you lying when you describe it?
                          • Re: How?

                            Thu, October 22, 2009 - 8:10 PM
                            Yes, God HAS asked the ruow woman to remain in seclusion as much as possable, so, it would fallow that we are "iceolated," that and REAL ruow Mothers pretty much can not stand to be around MOST people...which is only natural sence 98% of the people here on Earth at this time are Mother (Will) killing devils....Poor Daisy, with out Me around She actually gives a shit what ruow morons like you have to say to try to kill Her....than there you are still trying to hold Her feet to the fire on nit picking points like you used to do before Mother sent Me over here to save Her from wanteing to die because of nit picking devils who want to kill Her, LIKE YOU !

                            You see that picture of that man with me, billy? He never read any of ruow but he is still Waaaay beyond You when it comes to saveing the Will's life and, being nice to Mothers...ESPECALLY toothless old hags....You think i need a ruow bone head like you to give me approval? ... I got a real live, real warm, man, who would kill for me right here reading a manuel on how to rebuild my carbuerater, and, if i snap my fingers He will GLADLY come over here and give me a kiss....He was in super max prison for 12 years....and believe it, He is tuff stuff....so dont even imply that i am in need of a man's company....I got a very sweet and, very sexy and very interesting and exceiteing little sceen going on right here in my comfortable little house where i never have to work to pay the bills....know why ? cause billy and me are VERY inportant to God, so He totaly hookes it up phat for Us every day !
                            • Re: How?

                              Thu, October 22, 2009 - 8:59 PM
                              Nope. You don't know what you are talking about. You are talking about yourself and generalizing. And now you want sympathy for being isolated after hundreds of times coming here and letting everyone know you were not isolated, you were part of a group of super oldtimers, and you were superior to everyone here and you did not need the babies here.

                              When you get called on this and suddenly it seems convenient to play the victim, now you are isolated. And poor you and how mean we are. Without ever admitting how much BS you tried to shove down people's throats about how you were in with the in crowd and they were nothing. But we should give you unconditional love.

                              You wanna be free to drop shit on people and hit them where they already hurt or are weak. That is so Pan boss.

                              You constantly attack people as Mother haters, as if any problem someone has with you is a problem with Mother. That is what I meant by category. You are Luana, one fragment of Mother, with certain habits and problems and skills etc. Having a problem with you does not mean someone has problems with Mother. I mean look at what some fragments of mother are doing out there. And of course fragments of the other parts too.
                              And it is so early 90s, when people hit each other by screaming purple or daughter or mother hater.

                              Um. I am not implying you are in need of male company. I was quoting what you said about WHERE ARE THE REAL RU MEN?

                              i'm not sure you are aware of what you are doing and that is now making me sad.

                              I'll leave it here.
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                              Re: How?

                              Thu, October 22, 2009 - 8:59 PM
                              Luana,

                              Everyone here has Mother Essence, so the idea that you shouldn't debate Mother essence is pretty silly in that light isn't it?

                              The Mother in me knows beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are using Principles of RUoW to justify old Hierarchical images of Power you are clinging to. This is not up for debate! Why should anyone display acceptance for this they don't really feel?

                              And also the idea that anyone here is to blame for Daisy's wanting to die herself is really silly. I wish Daisy well and I know she is important to God to have on this earth, and to hold the postion she holds and I am more than ready to support her healing and would never EVER want her to kill herself. I want her dreams to come true, but not if she wants to use them as a stick to beat me cause I don't want to take in her self-hatred either, and I think she tries to blame others for it, like me, or like Andora. I have enough of my own to deal with. Like you said, I'm staring the wreckage of my life in the face every day and dealing with it, and sometimes it looks just impossible, and I want to die sometimes, a LOT of times too. Its painful and awful. I need support, not cruelty and humiliation. I've had plenty of that. Just like you. Just like Daisy. So why the fuck are we tearing at each other's throats for? Its soooo pointless! We are all on the SAME SIDE here.

                              And by the way I don't need your approval either and your disapproval means nothing to me. I approve of my self, and I know I am Awesome and Awesomely Loving.
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                                Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                Thu, October 22, 2009 - 10:02 PM
                                "and a bigger part of what you are smashing is your fear. I don't think you can bear how confused and scared you actually feel, so you smash anything that triggers those feelings. And in the long run, that is going to hurt you bad."

                                worm,
                                you have described the situation with luana perfectly,
                                because I can feel how confused and scared she really is,
                                luana has my sypmpathy,
                                she is a tragic figure,

                                she is running on fear and really terror,
                                terror of dying before she brings in her rage,
                                terror of aging and not being sexually attractive,
                                terror of not understanding why the father of her children left her,
                                terror of knowing that this phase is over and
                                she didnt get it,


                                if she was so evoled after her 25 years of ruow work,
                                she would not be needing to come here for reflection,
                                instead she is desperate for reflection,
                                so she takes what she gets here and uses it,
                                witout thanking us,
                                she is a taker,

                                and because of this I cant stand luana,
                                she needs to go to right place asap.
                                auX


                                • Re: Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                  Fri, October 23, 2009 - 1:11 PM
                                  aDD....You are RIGHT about EVERYTHING You said about me.

                                  Am i COOL of WHAT ? : )

                                  The only thing wrong with your analysis is that you do not love me, and it was ment to put Mother in Her place in hell, but keep trying
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                                    Re: Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                    Fri, October 23, 2009 - 2:54 PM
                                    pardon me, Luana, while I address a few of the others on this thread
                                    golly.......I'm reading a lot of judgement and the type of judgement I disllike the most - judgement aimed like a missile at a human target
                                    y'know, I seldom pull this out to show people, but I've been doing RUoW work since 1984...............worm?........auX?.....been into it so terribly long yourselves?
                                    some Mother's need a lot of space, and especially by that I mean room to go as wild as they gotta whether in word or deed and that is because Mother has the first and the most damage to contend with
                                    one last bit of shit: EVERYTHING Luana or Daisy say on this forum that freaks you out/pisses you off/et cetera is a trigger because deep within you somewhere you carry the same thing and can't stand it or won't accept it
                                    SO
                                    Love to you all, and keep on keepin' on.
                                    • Re: Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                      Fri, October 23, 2009 - 7:01 PM
                                      Nu...
                                      thanks ..
                                      wow..

                                      I would also like to add that its VERY difficult to get inside this part of HeartMothers gapped Will Essence that was originally so disbanded from the rest of the Essence of The Original MOTHERS' Essence.
                                      To me, Luana IS that position of 'that which We do not know' and is barely alive, trying to stay here so We can all see and Know what We are that's lost. I am a fragmented part too of what was lost Originally. and fed back to every single day by this Divine Mothers Lost and Most Beautiful Light. I am free of what I own as darkness to a large degree here, because Ive a) not gotten off the mattress since '91 (I had a day job up until then) and b) listened with fond Desire and massive and loving intent to take back within myself Every little and large despotic, cruel, mad, crazy blaming, brilliant, Heartfelt, longing, dispising, humiliated, notorious, passive, lost, dissenfranchised MOTHERGOD HERSELF IN THE FINEST, thing that MotherGod Luana has EVER said. She is the bottom most rung. She is the sparrow and the Divinest Light we have here. She is it. The encycleopedic missile of Our WILLS most trecherous, lost , Hated, hideous, brilliant, massive torential torment known to mankind in the Soul of One. She will not lie, cannot lie, until She is facing Your lies. Then its on!
                                      And I have been allowed into Her inner Sanctum for nigh on 8 years or so now, and it has rankled me to hideous depths, to find a way to be at peace with what She quietly and with massive patience, does beseech to me in My Mothers Parts, that She is ... and beseeches Me to find. To unloathe, to LISTEN TO, and (it's been hard every single day) to find a way to redeem inside of the Who, of the Who that I am.

                                      Lu and I have never spoken of this. I am isolated too, as She is, though She is surrounded by her children and grandkids .. and her lover, and the homeless and musos that she finds time to feed ... But Our Hearts remain on fire for those of you who work here Every damn day, to find a way out of these hellfires that our Souls are plummented to..

                                      It's true, 'time is up'. Its being said to me and the other girls and boys, men and women that I work with here ( I work within a group of 20 healers, all scared shitless, (ie the more you know) and courageous skilled ROUWers) daily. We are at an end of sorts. A time where we shall need to now get our reflections NOT from the other, but from within the cataclysm that will savage and ravage our souls, because enough time has been given. What is out will stay out. The lines have been drawn in the sand. Whichever place we find ourselves to be, will from this day forward, create the external reflections that now need to come forward. Meaning Globally. On mass. It may take a year or so to begin fully, for those of us here who have been sorting through the damage of Our hearts, and Minds, so that Our WILLS may heal, but it will come forward now to bear as a gifted reality to sink ,and be risen from. No more time left. Dont fight the WILL here any longer. Ort try not to anyhow as best you can. I know the reflex is to shift blame and re-position against. Its been that way forever. You REALLY do need to have you wits about you, to give yourself a chance to surrender and not draw and fire, ... going on old impulses set up in the WILL as yet unfrozen (that is if youre a fairly new reader and processor of this work..say less than 15 years). These parts that you see in yourselves that are against still, in judgement of - still, are the very parts of Our Mothers Light that will give you a reflection as a catastrophic World View, in the times ahead.
                                      Luana has it right. She IS the catastrophe that will be be upon our heads in the ravages that spring forward now Globally, to sustain the Mothers' Presence here on Earth. She IS the harrowing of which We disown in Ourselves because to those Spirit Polar defenses of those of US with Ronoloka Hearts, Angelic Imprints from before the crushing blows of the lairs and what came later,..just CANNOT CONCEDE to this hatred as being apart of the Original WILL's Essence.
                                      But it is. You and Me. Us All. What happened to me has been found within Her Lovely Folds. And if You all want a way out quickly, look for a way to own back and Love EVERY LITTLE THING, EVERY IOTA OF DISBANDED ABUSE, hierachical unfathomable (to us, those of Us that call it wrong, that is) incalculable damage, that She's so desperately holding up from the swamps and quagmires of Our refuse, ...that She is holding for Us until We can Own it all back.

                                      Believe me I understand the resistance of the mind coming from these parts that say..'she's a witch, she's mad, she's hypocritical, shes uncooth, shes not to be trusted, shes manipulative, shes contemptively abusive, and cruel and anihilatively venomous, and withering, ... and pandering and effusive and loving to those that will kneel.....' (dont think that MotherLuana doesnt know for a minute, how you see and feel her.) Before you all, I say without a skerrick of a doubt, that SHE IS THE MOTHER, and I have followed Her Home. And within Her Heart, She knows the way, and is merely fathoming us forward in the only way left to Her. Shoving us back our refuse. Our deliberately ousted parts that we could find no use for at the befinning of this all, that we disbanded from, to try to live a way back from the Heartlessness of the Original Causes that Our True Mothers Essence has been soaked in for all time.

                                      'Times up" I hear again and write down here as told to Me. If its possible to Stop fighting Her Will and to take back within Yourselves what it is to be ugly, unfit, manipulative, cantankerous, hatefilled, vengeful, licentious, gapped and horror bound, your reflections will get easier (those Earthly ones that are fuelled with the most dynamic Of Mothers Rage Lost HeartWill parts, that are Aiming Right At Us Right Now.) If its possible to suspend disbelief and swallow what is being reflected and demonstrated here, then I know it will be an easier ride for us all. It's hard. I know. And seemingly heretical in it's obtuseness against. But it IS the Most HOLY parts of the unfrozen WILL that were lost from Us All and to deny it now will definitely bring death. You cannot stay here on Earth unless You say, "Im ready and Willing to hear Hearts point of view in this all, that was gapped from rage, and hosted by the most evil."
                                      My love to you here. I pray for us all
                                      My Love
                                      U
                                      • Re: Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                        Fri, October 23, 2009 - 7:12 PM
                                        ps..
                                        I probably wont stick around much. I read you all here and I honor your work on behalf of the WILL. Its just that Im so overwhelmed with what I have found of the Daughters Heart in hell imprints that Im struggling to undo here ever since my own earthly mothers death, that left me with the lot to do (she carried it all for 80 years or so here on earth this time) and my dads passing also in his later years that left me with so much Spirit light to ponder and unconfound all this new Heart healing with...that Im struggling to get it all masterminded within me here and pass it on to the group that Im healing all this most profound and duplicitous evil perpetrated daughters Essence with..

                                        I love you all. I feel you all I am so heart here when I read. I barely get back here once a month or so...its just tooo full on in my crown chakra that it knocks around my own

                                        Please excuse this hit and run. perhaps hopefully later on in the decade I will be free here to post a little..

                                        With loves Heart
                                        Love to You all,
                                        U
                                      • Re: Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                        Fri, October 23, 2009 - 9:00 PM
                                        Unity,
                                        I do work with the reflection Luana offers in this way, ALSO. But if she is really isolated, then she needs to come forward as that, rather than come forward as she knows all the right people and we are nothing and need to kiss her ass. This is pretty basic ru stuff. Match will experience with expression.

                                        I don't think people coming and supporting her converting fear and confusion to rage filled judgements of others is loving to her, let alone us. And I want to emphasize that word judgments. Her attacking posts go for people weaknesses and they are meant to shut down and turn people back on themselves. To shut them down the way the voice can and does. You can express rage without cleverly coming up with ways to make the other person feel like shit. It is the cleverness and the judgments that really feel like shit. And it is old. It is an old pattern that should have been moved.

                                        I assume you and Nu see yourselves as supporting her by coming here today, and I expected some example of an oldtimer to appear in her defense.

                                        I have no idea what you guys say in private to her or in other forums if they exist, but here, where I can only see what you do in relation to her and us here, it seems way out of balance.

                                        this is not a new pattern in this life for her. And the parts of the mother that have been engaged in this have been doing this since the void where some of us encountered them.

                                        After my exchange with her yesterday, I did feel sad for her and for us.

                                        Again, I do move in the ways you say. I do work to take back the whole range of emotions and urges, many of them match what I experience Luana as 'showing'.

                                        This can be done with sound mostly of course. And you can do it with sound with others.

                                        You don't need to put it in words, or not many. You don't need to expose people on the internet to do this.

                                        In her pain as the portion of Mother you mentioned, she needs to come forward with that pain. If it is too raw for this forum, then in the forums she has referred to many times with the oldtimers she trusts.

                                        If she is getting something from coming to this forum, she needs to let the people she interacts with have some respect. It's been a good month of saying we are all babies -which is about the softest insult so far - and that we know nothing and that we will die and so on. Often with some authority behind it. The real RUers know we are all shit. Etc.

                                        That's aligning with some pretty luciferian light, the kind that our movement is pushing out.

                                        I appreciated the reminder about how to take her reflection. Always good to keep in mind. But the truth is that kind of relfection is all around me. Shit, what I faced over a counter today.

                                        If we were in a room together moving, I migth invite a less wordy version of those triggers from someone. Mostly in sound. Here!!??? in words, by someone claiming to be so advanced and meaning it. Come on.

                                        I get her kind of triggers from the newspapers, from people on the street, from 'experts', and from people who are brutal with strangers.

                                        I move aruond that also.

                                        You say you understand the resistance in mind that reacts to her with a series of judgments you list.

                                        It's not my mind reacting. It is my Will and Heart. And finally, finally, my mind is not giving me guilt about it. Including me not taking in the quite gentle version of that guilt in your post here.

                                        W.
                                    • Re: Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                      Fri, October 23, 2009 - 8:41 PM
                                      Hi Nu,
                                      yes, it has been that long, but that's beside the point. Some people can do things for a long time and not get it.

                                      Wish you were around to judge judgement in a balanced way.

                                      How about Luana in another thread telling Nathan about the person she says is his parental part, how he is like Nathan, but better.

                                      Love to see you get in there.

                                      Luana is fragment of Mother. But she does some stuff that is mean and she spreads misinformation about ru. So she gets to get called on that. I don't know where you got the idea that someone simply being Mother means that they must be treated all nicey nice while they stomp on other people. Look around in your life...are all the mothers more willish than all the sons, daughters, fathers, manifest spirits you know?

                                      This is guilt Nu, which you are now passing on. And you know, it ain't gonna help Luana. It's enabling.
                                      • Re: Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                        Fri, October 23, 2009 - 10:16 PM
                                        Slimey worm

                                        Leave it to you to be a nit picking worm who LOVES to hold peoples feet to the fire on some mute technocality....and, waist their time trying to answer your constant dry mouthed nit picking.....You have a typically nit picking personality....You have very little sence of humor so it is hard to get along with you, unless one was to be compleetly boering like you are

                                        When i said i was "icolated," that means that i do not interface with very many people IN PERSON ....get it? ....but HELL NO I am NOT iceolated when it comes to ruow, i speek frequantly to many of the channelers of the channeled ruow sites....and i speek to them on the phone....Their attitude towards me is alot like Unitys....They say i am AWESOME and they are glad to see what all i do here, and, elsewhere...I wish i could name names but i doubt they would like that....

                                        I also post on the main, "conspiracy theory," sites....I am a compleetly different person there, than i am here, I even use a spell checker and you would not know me there.......You only see the small part of my VAST personality here on this site.....why? because the personality i use here is EXACTLY the one that you really WANT to see....


                                        Now go ahead, ignore everything else i have said and instead just scann my posts for something to nit pick on.

                                        You are not a nice ruow man
                                        You are not a sexy ruow man
                                        You zero in on what ever you see as any part of Mother's personality that you can find that does not comply with your limited consept of what you invision her to be ....and You rush in to shut Her expression down....I do not believe that you are one of the people who will EVER "get," ruow.

                                        The old timers who i have spoken to agree that at least you named yourself right.
                                        • Re: Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                          Fri, October 23, 2009 - 11:31 PM
                                          RUOW is not my ONLY line of exertese...I also know EVERYTHING about, eugenics, the NWO, and, all the charictors and their agendas, the history of Earth, the political climate of Earth, and, all the political figures past and present, the Constitution of the united states, and, other countrys, socialism, communism, and its origens, the founding fathers, the history of wars, and warriors of Earth, other inhabited planets,ufos,satanic conclaves, underground citys, metaphysics, satanic cults, illuminati symbols, art, literature, pholosophy, music, the federal reserve and its origins, organic gardening,ORGANIC horticulture and, animal husbandry, the civil war, the history of slavery, vetrinariary medicine, herbs, midwifery, travistock mind controll, FEMA documents,orgon, alturnitive energy, tesla inventions, Farm skills, food preservation, bitches, and, hos, scientology, christianity and its origins, judaism, and its oragins, the bible, the urantia book, the lucifer rebellion, the life of jebus, ....care of chickens and eggs, milk cows, restoreing houses,

                                          oh and it goes on and on

                                          And i know just about every song ever written, by heart. and i can play musical insterments, and, transpose to any key, instantly.....
                                          i play the fiddle, do you even know what THAT means?I am a legend as a stage performer, i have NO stage fright, I also write BEAUTIFUL songs about dead children ...

                                          I ama magnetic reciprical for knowledge, and i have a photographic memorie, and, a very high iq, I have never been to any school or belonged to any organizeation or religion.....and that is only for starters.


                                          Billy made a wood stove and installed it in my house today...he is going to use it to run a steam engine, which he is also makeing.

                                          Believe me, to post as a beloved on the other forums i post on One REALY has to know ones shit ! these people are VERY keen to spot disinfo agents, or people running on programs, These people would give me a much harder time than ya'll do, if i messed up on my research.....I spend alot of time studying "the ruleing eleet" and researching their agendas and their next move.

                                          Im tiard of typeing, so im gonna do the dishes, later
                                          • Re: Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                            Sat, October 24, 2009 - 12:03 AM
                                            oh and it goes on and on ""

                                            Ate from the wrong Tree

                                            ZZZZzzzzzz

                                            Thanks Unity! Awesome! I don't agree on a few points, of pedestal or ignoring her role with unlovingness here, Will or Not (it's Not, as given). Will is....(in the books given and if it ain't Happening here so well, it's no excuse for power-tripping, Will-ravaging denial by her).
                                            Bless the Feminine

                                            Worm, you say it right, thanks

                                            Nu, avoiding the missile/judgement thing, leaning to it being less Luana than has been given. Aux spoke compassion, sympathy, you could've carried that over...(what is happening here with Luana?)

                                            I wrote up some more stuff alright but the power of it being 'much the same' holds it.
                                            S
                                            • auX
                                              auX
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                                              self-hating luana

                                              Sat, October 24, 2009 - 12:14 AM
                                              "The only thing wrong with your analysis is that you do not love me"

                                              luano,
                                              it is not possible to love you,
                                              you are so full of self-hatred,
                                              it is not possible to love,
                                              that which hates itself,
                                              I know you are very aware,
                                              of your desperate state
                                              all on your very own.
                                              auX
                                              • Re: self-hating luana

                                                Sat, October 24, 2009 - 12:37 AM
                                                "i have NO stage fright,"
                                                Yes you do, did you notice the titles on this thread? What about it? This is a stage.

                                                "Believe me, to post as a beloved on the other forums i post on One REALY has to know ones shit ! (and)

                                                .I spend alot of time studying "the ruleing eleet" and researching their agendas and their next move. "

                                                Most of us here know you LOVE this forum-say it. Freaked out that you sound like you're going senile: You can discuss sanely here or go Move -like of what your peer/sister AuX is saying-and tell us about it later maybe. Simple.

                                                I asked you about 'BD" as that 'homework' and you replied nothing. We need to cover such things and move on quickly; I took the risk bringing it up and at a right time-so valuable is time- but you go past it in such repeated bolstering yourself/who are you talking to?

                                                ~
                                                S
                                          • Re: Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                            Sat, October 24, 2009 - 1:11 AM
                                            Hey Luana, sorry I've been out of it for a few days. Besides, there is no point in responding to anyone currently posting here in this thread besides you, exactly because all they are doing is trying to distract away from the feelings of wrongness they are avoiding for not accepting what you and I represent here; we are pieces of them, and vice versa. So who is hating who?

                                            I am exhausted. I'll try to talk tomorrow.

                                            Love you, Luana.
                                            • Re: Voices

                                              Sat, October 24, 2009 - 1:41 AM
                                              O come on, Daisy, that's laced with rhetoric and even unknowns: what allowance do you have for general process here, that you must 'separate/divide'', 'align/take sides' etc etc before getting to it some more?

                                              True, there's the role of Differentiation of Mother where WILL is what just does it. For a small example, splitting the forum so that when and if Unity speaks it can stay on its own page and on the 'top' too...

                                              What do you represent? What Unity was saying? (Go for it).. Why is that 'bad' or something apart from us others? Do you have special powers 'better than us others' that with RUoW we cannot get it straight and together? God sticks up for the Will and it never ends with some certain women? Worm reminded there are still other women movers who don't act the same-well, what is that to you? Powers...unique and balancing..Sharing? Who knows? Do some need certain Space? How do you and your special place wish to be treated/what do you Wish? How do you go about that here? Specially representing Will, yes? That has little to do with harping on other members as if they may not be aware of such; there are unknowns.

                                              Unknown: our feelings about wrongness. Good point! To some, the entire world is wrong and we could go on 'forever' on that note. The antidote is feeling perfect/love in the moment, then processing that onward. If I'm not projecting I swear I've been getting just that from you often enough-and thanks for it anyway.. Making Harmony happen with expertise in 'prayers' is another solution to feeling wrong. We on this path are well about feeling right...(so I don't get it, why harp instead of support?)

                                              Where again does 'hate' come into play here? The only one saying they hate stuff here is hello, Luana..talking about her hating members here, hmm?

                                              Has she been upset b/c H1Ni has been made a Nat'l Emer.?

                                              www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...61.html

                                              All these 'eyes of the needles'...Is 'hatred' STILL the easier thing to do/be?

                                              Our Wills do some planes of reality; our bodies do theirs' (our hearts) and our spirits especially do the work at places like this. Sad that Blue must go down....that it can sure Ride a member or two here now and then.

                                              ~~
                                              S
                                              • Re: Voices

                                                Sat, October 24, 2009 - 11:55 AM
                                                "Do you have special powers 'better than us others' that with RUoW we cannot get it straight and together?"

                                                I have special powers, yes, that relate to which part of the whole I am. Better than others? Only in as much as others deny their own divinity to themselves through misunderstandings and self doubt. I mean, people who accuse me of having a superiority complex themselves have an inferiority complex that has nothing to do with me. See what I am saying? I don't think I am better than you! I just know better than you who and what I am! If you and the other angry folks here knew who and what you all are, we wouldn't even be having this conversation; dare to dream big, that's all I can say.
                                                • Re: Voices

                                                  Sat, October 24, 2009 - 12:16 PM
                                                  Snot,

                                                  You mention vaccinations, Im not realy sure exactly what you said cause your word soupe is so criptic, and, prosie that im not realy sure if you agree with the vaccination HOAX or not ??? I doubt you know very much about the history of genicide threw the vaccines ???..the tuskegee project, or the radiation of the Safardic Children in isreal, funded by the USA....etc etc etc....or the deaths threw the bird flu HOAX in 1974,,,,etc etc etc

                                                  You are NOT a Parent....
                                                  You do not live in the kind of terror that i live in over this issue every day,because i have Grand Children in grammer school

                                                  Oh never mind you, numb nutted,adle brained, senile, old, horses ass,
                                                • Re: Voices

                                                  Sat, October 24, 2009 - 12:24 PM
                                                  Scott said:

                                                  "Worm reminded there are still other women movers who don't act the same-well, what is that to you?"

                                                  ALL parts act the way they act; no two people are coming from exactly the same place, which means that ALL points of view are valid for where they are, regardless of what misunderstandings they are holding. I liked what Charred Heart was saying; just express it in whatever way it needs to express, even if it feels wrong in some way. That wrongness needs to move. The issue isn't whether or not I accept these points of view; the issue is whether or not the owner of the point of view accepts it themselves.
                                                  • Re: Voices

                                                    Sat, October 24, 2009 - 12:28 PM
                                                    If said point of view feels wrong to me, for me, for where I am, I will say it most emphatically. Then it is up to the other person to either stick to their pov or get triggered by my lack of agreement and move with it. If I get triggered by them, it is up to me to move with it. I am not responsible for NOT triggering you, or anyone else, right? I am just going to say what I feel called to say. I am hoping that everyone else is doing the same thing; moving with their triggers instead of acting them out.

                                                    Maybe if everyone just let it fly, we could all get to the companionship part sooner. Of course, this only works if people are actually MOVING with what is coming up for them.
                                                    • Re: Voices

                                                      Sat, October 24, 2009 - 1:15 PM
                                                      Hi auX,

                                                      What does "auX," mean?

                                                      Another underprocessed Xyloid ?


                                                      Save Your breath Daisy, EVERYTHING You say to Snot can and WILL be held against You.

                                                      Love Your new picture....I had to take all mine down cause i was recieveing really creepy emails about them.
                                                      • Re: Voices

                                                        Sat, October 24, 2009 - 1:21 PM
                                                        "..EVERYTHING You say to Snot can and WILL be held against You. ." What the hell, Unity supports it-lies, Will-info not getting to people who need it: Luana isn't into saving lives APparently

                                                        "Snot" "You are NOT a Parent.... " Liar-shuddup. Back to the familiar RU Kiddie Pen with you! Avoidance, conversion, power-trippin to 'stay afloat'. Lies to yourself to get along here, riiiiight. Back! BACK, you 'worst vampire of them all', Back!!

                                                        "Oh never mind you.." If you only knew how to-we ARE talking about matching thought and feelings

                                                        No wonder you debase the Mother (as usual) who says this is NOT hell but as I have to respond to 'all this' I at least know you ARE in it

                                                        A Dios
                                                        'Aux' is plural, French like 'us' or 'our'

                                                        Daisy-"...If you and the other angry folks here knew.."

                                                        ennnh!!

                                                        S
                                                        • Re: Voices

                                                          Sat, October 24, 2009 - 3:36 PM
                                                          Scott, You wouldnt know the Mother if She sat on your face

                                                          You got a kid????

                                                          Thats news to me....where is She?? He ??

                                                          How come you never talk about your kid?
                                      • Re: Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                        Sun, October 25, 2009 - 11:21 AM
                                        "How about Luana in another thread telling Nathan about the person she says is his parental part, how he is like Nathan, but better. "

                                        Hi Worm,

                                        I just want to say I appreciate the sentiment behind your protectiveness of me and take it as a huge compliment, actually. But its really not necessary for you to defend me from the "Big Bad Luana" and i would release you from that burden. Unity may have a point. While I know for certain there's no truth to it, and I think I even know the person Luana is talking about, but all the same it hurts and triggers core shame, and I think I'd rather face that reflection coming through her here than have to face it while staring down the barrel of Lucifer's gun.
                                        • Re: Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                          Sat, October 31, 2009 - 4:05 PM
                                          Hi Nathan,
                                          I missed this post of yours. That post to Nu I think was not me defending you, but me pointing out hypocrisy as I saw it.

                                          I didn’t think my whole reaction to Luana as protecting you from the Big Bad Luana. I immediately felt someone intended to hurt someone else and instead of them moving that or expressing the anger involved and probably fear also of losing your love, they went for the jugular with information. I identified with whatever soft parts that kind of shot might hit. So even from very early on it wasn't me the Knight saving someone else, but me with soft parts not liking seeing someone go after soft part, especially in public like this. And also that once I had read it, I was involved. I had information - or lies for all I knew - and that was not something I could undo. A choice was made for me and not just you that should not have been made by a third party.

                                          I decided at that moment to push back. If I met judgments and claims of expertise, I was going to throw back my own. I decided to sustain my response. It felt good to do this. Very quickly this was not about you, but about dealing with someone who I felt was lying and stealing light and despite what all the visitors AND some people here seem to be saying, someone who wasn’t being honest about her feelings.

                                          Her immediate response was to try to shame you in advance. The whole 'Daisy revealed stuff about herself is he so fucked up....' etc. So here you have someone instead of moving into fear about what she had done, is trying to shut off any response you might have by shaming it preemptively. That only got me more pissed off. Not because I see you as some withering flower who needs my protection, but because it pissed me off for what it was.

                                          The whole incident attracted many advocates for her and it was seen as somehow unfair to Luana, but that is not how I experienced it at all. at the end of my main interaction with her I actually felt like she came through in a real way. It was through the sides, around her words, but there for the first time. It seemed the last thing she wanted to show, but there is was. And I did feel sympathy for her. I felt like her presentation was actually matching where she was in a way I hadn’t felt before.

                                          None of this was about you. This was all about me, not pretending I believe someone else's claims of having more authority, not pretending I don't see what just happened and what was done in the cover up, not being a victim angry reacter, but someone who is OK and expressing how he felt about something he felt was fucked up.

                                          I was glad to see it had pissed you off too. I mean, it would have felt odd if you thought it was fine. But that was on the periphery for me. I mean hell you called her up and were screaming at her - I gather from both of your posts. I wasn't worried about you, escept in those first moments I read that post.

                                          I've encountered this person and this pattern before. And I mean a long, long time ago in the void and then later again in a few reenactments. What I did was for myself or simply poured out of me. I needed to do it for me.

                                          As far as having to choose between that reflection coming through her or the barrel of Lucifer's gun, I just want to say I don’t think those are not the only choices.

                                          W
                                          • Re: Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                            Sat, October 31, 2009 - 4:37 PM
                                            Hi worm,

                                            understood. well thanks for speaking up for your own feelings, then... if they happen to align with mine, all the better...that's the way it should be, imo.

                                            "As far as having to choose between that reflection coming through her or the barrel of Lucifer's gun, I just want to say I don’t think those are not the only choices. "

                                            No, definitely not the only two choices, but i guess sometimes it seems to me like i get reflections like this when i've lost some thread of connection to lost Will...

                                            but yeah, its certainly preferable to go "the middle way"...

                                            • Re: Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                              Sat, October 31, 2009 - 5:43 PM
                                              I have also been here on this site to learn many things that Mother needed to know about fragmentation , imprinting, mother contenders......you know, just basic stuff that Mother is up against......also to check to see if i can find someone who i have been looking for, who i have found....

                                              I would love to be kicked off this site and will gladly go peacefully....although according to my email box there are many who do not want me to go and rush to the board everyday JUST to read Me.
                                              At the advanced stage i am at in this process EVERYTHING others do "against," me, also works for me.

                                              I have gained popularity on some other sites that are peopled by PARENTAL PARTS who dont even know about ruow...

                                              I have to say, that most of them are in many ways, way more knowledgeable about the Will and Her plite than alot of people who sapposadly read a few of the books....So dont worrie about me not haveing anybody to talk to.
                                            • Re: Fear fronting up as Rage AKA Luana

                                              Sat, October 31, 2009 - 7:06 PM
                                              and worm,

                                              i also would like to add that my being upset with luana for revealing personal history about me here is more a statement of how i feel about this place and the people here than it is about how i feel towards her....
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                                                delusions of grandeur

                                                Sun, November 1, 2009 - 12:05 AM
                                                "At the advanced stage i am at in this process EVERYTHING others do "against," me, also works for me."


                                                I bet is does.
                                                auX

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