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I have noticed that some people had come back to this tribe after Nathan was removed as moderator, I am one of them. Now I noticed some have left.
To each there own I suppose. I would rather be here that allows for free expression then another related tribe that doesn't permit this.
W.L.
To each there own I suppose. I would rather be here that allows for free expression then another related tribe that doesn't permit this.
W.L.
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 10:11 AMI know some people don't like hearing other people argue, get into blaming rage with words, name calling. For the most I can only stand so much of it as well. I know that there's a trixster part of my character that likes to argue from time to time.
W.L.
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Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 10:53 AMW.L.
this space feels much softer to me
even with the arguing,
so all in all its good.
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 3:02 PMI just joined this tribe a couple days ago, but do not know if I am going to stay. (Not that it matters to any of you). Just expressing my confusion around staying or not.... -
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 7:52 PMEverything matters, Dripping. 'Love to have you around.
We just had a big overhaul over moderation, that's been stewing a whole year.
Karolina was just asking what might you have to do with the book series the tribe is about?
They do ask for dedication, maybe that's less clear online and here,.
S
Nathan's leaving takes 4 profiles of his own with him I believe. One 'Luana' one is gone
-besides my new friend Moonshadow, it leaves maybe one unaccounted for-though I can't count past the movement involved (a person can leave and another sign in, so by numbers, one can't tell)
Then, I think '000000' is Luana and as far as the last Profile-a marking-might be Nathan again. -
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 8:53 PMScott
I thought Nathan only had 3 identities
I think I have heard of Moonshadow from the one time RUOW network support link, which is non-exsistent at present.
It appears Southpaw and Semele have left, unless my eyes are playing tricks on me.
I don't know if Luana left of her own accord or what? Despite my gaps with Nathan, I thought some of his observations were interesting.
The theme of Mothers Place to me sounds positive with no fighting to take place and if one does have a charge with another to take it off-line and move it. But to say no to disagreeing with someone else's point of view, that I find too constrictive for my want. At least here one has the option to express blaming rage here with words or express it offline. The latter way to me sounds less addictive, unfortunately.
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 9:09 PMOK, thanks for the assist WL
Semele and Southpaw got more out of this public eye, see
Shenreed's gone from here too!
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 10:02 PMScott
I never did hear the scoop with Shenreeds departure? When Nathan took over sometime last year and told both of us that we weren't welcome here. I volunteered to leave first.
I knew that more than a few were uncomfortable with Shenreeds presence because he came across so heady; Still, I thought he had some good stuff to say about certain issues.
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 10:40 PMYa, that's right, I was just curious whether you were at all familiar with the material is all. Thanks for sharing your experience.
K
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 8:36 PMSome people join this tribe and by the look of things one wouldn't know if they just observe what's going on here or what, because they don't contribute for whatever reason, or got busy with other things? Of the 60+ members here, less than half that number contribute their thoughts and feelings here. Which is sad from my perspective. It could matter to have you here, If I got to know you and saw that you showed a real interest with these books.
If your ears hurt that much? I would suggest checking out Mothers Place, where on-line bickering is not suppose to take place.
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 10:07 PMWell, I read RUoW many many, years ago (had borrowed it from a friend)... and I don't think I was ready at the time for the information, but it always lingered in the back of my consciousness. I finally found my own copy recently and am diving back in..slowly... but surely. I am in a place in my life where NOTHING is working anymore.... and EVERYTHING is coming to a "head"--a huge and excrutiatingly painful head. So many old, unhealed wounds and denials... and I feel I am now ready to do the work to heal and create something new with my life, in alignment with God's will. I feel like a lost child and am seeking support and perspective with this Work.
Frankly, after reading a lot of posts here these past two days, I have felt totally unsafe to participate in the discussions. Perhaps it's because I am feeling so incredibly vulnerable & fragile with my emotional body and my life right now. This just seemed like a very volatile forum.
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 10:14 PMThanks for sharing your story, Arrow coming down & pointing to the left
My want for you is, for you to do what you need to do to takecare of yourself ?
W.L.
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 10:51 PMThank you, WL.
Funny you mention it.... I am learning to take care of myself, right now, too. My partner is an addict and I have since "lost" myself these past two years trying to deal and cope with his illness and behavior and have forgotten how to take care of myself... but am learning again as we speak.
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Thu, June 18, 2009 - 11:57 PMThank you Sasha, nice to meet you. I'm Daisy, and this place really represents a lot of the shit that we don't usually like to look at or be faced with. If you are feeling very vulnerable, I can't guarantee that folks will be gentle with you, but welcome just the same.
There are a few other tribes, each one slightly different, but mostly they don't really tolerate personal attacks. If shame and blame happen, it sucks ass, but really, I like this tribe the best. I wish no one ever hurt anyone else. I wish that no one would ever hurt me again. People just get really triggered here and have instant responses, or reactions sometimes. You might just be going along, la la la, just saying what feels good, and suddenly, someone starts interrogating you, or they take what you say personally, and wherever they are in their process has a lot to do with how far it's taken, I think.
There are so many twists and turns here, pot holes, land mines, whatever. But at least it's honest and real. The one thing I DON'T like is, how glaring the unloving light is here on tribe. It's just right HERE, in my FACE when I look at the page. It seems to be interlaced into everything. Sometimes I can't do it. Sometimes I can't even read, it's so painful.
And, I'm glad you are here. It feels meant to be somehow. :)
Daisy
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Fri, June 19, 2009 - 9:13 AMWelcome Sasha!
Believe it or not there are some good folks around here who have been a great support and inspiration to me. So despite the recent drama show that has been put on here I hope you can find some of what you need.
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Fri, June 19, 2009 - 9:21 PMHi Ya
I'm just pulling out here a little, from extra RUoW tribes for now.
I did my thing with Nathan's being so down on women in general esp.,
which had everything to do with the extra tribes.
And dear Daisy showed 'alignments' out here with the ones I would hope to remain private from
after the fact.
Pls. don't feel hurt Daisy, it's just online-level here, like a build-up of potential relations
that to me aren't moving
but I remain a same-old-guy that would do well with you in the real, or not
so Whatever happens next or can happen next 'love is open'
(never had a younger Sister :))
If you ARE feeling hurt, let me know and I'll ensure it's no wounds open from my end
and you can receive any love or blessing at large
Some won't vote b/c it's too immature they say
and Luana's SO right they say-to ME, privately!
Right-eous rage on top, is about it, with no guarantee of handling what's been done.
To me, I've never felt comfortable with anything Dragon-y though I've been deeply involved anyway online somehows
So I continue to adjust my right places accordingly
doing my own moderating, whatever the constrictions
hell of some movements here that at least brought change and opportunity
maybe a better future!
It's been dark a full week or more
(Nathan, then Luana 'triggers')
for me, who knows
my Training made my All better than it was
Kudos to you-all
I'll be around-with Final Resp's channeling I can choose letting RUoW go, too-that I don't know about yet as far as this Tribe
thank you
Blessings to my good or potential friends here
and/or just the tribe/space
later
S
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Fri, June 19, 2009 - 10:07 PMlove you, karolina
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Fri, June 19, 2009 - 10:15 PMScott, I don't feel hurt by you at all. And yes, I do have alignments, with Mother and all her parts. Father too, some, but I accept all of it, even the stuff I don't understand. It's all part of the whole and all of it is evolving. I feel slightly misunderstood by you because I AM just like Luana, like all my sisters, as I also hold my uniqueness, but still, we are all a part of one another. Hating her is like hating myself. That's what EVERYONE here needs to know. Hating ANY of you, or rather, holding on to that hate, is hating myself. There is no separation for me. Don't get me wrong, feel however you do about it, that's real. But holding grudges and positions based on judgments about dragons and heart daughter, (she who gets the worst rap of ALL, I might add) just something to look at. Luana has done nothing worse than the rest of us here. Almost ALL of you have issues with her, and I say, if there's charge, it's yours. She's just protecting the holy temple of the Mother. I just can't see it another way. I used to feel the way you do about her. You took it personally. I hope the movement you got out of it enabled some shifting of perspectives and some release of judgments. Blessings to you, Scott. I wish you would stick around. I wish everyone would stop leaving, but I understand, don't go past yourselves. I still love all of you, even if I don't understand.
Love,
Daisy
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Fri, June 19, 2009 - 10:17 PMI would LOVE to have a big brother. :)
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Fri, June 19, 2009 - 10:41 PMI personally don't have much of an angry charge with Luana at this time.
Daisy, I do disagree with your percptions of Luana representing the temple of the Mother.
I have noticed that Luana has departed from this tribe for whatever reason? I know that I have gaps with her, but I think I'm going to miss not having her around here. Her bluntness of coming out of nowhere to say stuff, kind of inspires me.
Scott
Even though I have struggled to understand you at times, I just want you to know that will be missing your presence.
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Fri, June 19, 2009 - 11:43 PMOK, thanks people-Daisy, WL
quality of presence staying, amount of presence questionable yet decided.
So a light side and a dark side continue-though I still smile on the brother comment Dais'
the dark side always 'wins' but where reason meets with it, all the more love/potential.
Those 'training' in only the light cannot tarry with the dark, especially the darks brought up here. (?)
Thanks for wishing I was around some, and yes, we all understand more as we go.
Charges and issues and IDs: nah. 'protecting the temple' 'pariah', na. A way of talking.
rage
What's wrong is wrong and going past stuff is one thing one attends to here.
Was it charge for me or for all? 'Can't tell. There's 'blind' healing and there's 'blind rage' unknown as to healing-(why unknown)-?
Same with 'pariah' or protections: what did it have to do with this tribe and people?
She went past all that here, and it's usual for her: the worst addictions.
It's not mentioned, power plays and handling things with greater care
and her flings are entirely careless. What is that: presentation?
I say facts and I'd get 'fire'.
'Fire' in the name of healing like keeping dead lava alive with such sisters?
Fire with any reason?
Fire with any care? What different from that from original cause?
Fire and admitting they're wrong? Nothing.
Fire in lieu of the books or the tribe (again)? No.
Cleansing fire? Unknown with full history of it not'..
Fire as shared with other healers? No overt permissions or discussions.
That's wrong and in spots, entirely, very wrong.
What, God didn't mention female psychos/rage freaks enough or were the entries there honoring women?
So, if I'm forced with choice to 'not choose rage', some of you guys can make a hell of an argument
but I don't or won't and wasn't even 'here' on any note like that
bullshit
and you all know what needs to be done here-is not all that stalled away, gone around, avoided
thanks to yet others keeping any right focus at all!
I ain't staying for rage
I stay for RUoW which this world MAJORly does not get.
When Will was born out there, soon almost everyone interpreted it as
spite
rage polarity again
Is that what this Tribe insists to be? Wouldn't the dragon types involved be concerned as to what NAME they choose this time?
I can only IMAGINE, Daisy, that it's OK in your Process thinking of Luana as such-n-such
that's fine
I'm talking what I was throughout here, where her stuff is just wrong and I mean pouring out on others haphazardly
it's retarded, fess up.
Everyone mentioning her 'right' points; so? What for? Practice? Like her mentioning great foods and preparing them: out of real time-and issue/resolve of-; like, why not when such Session is over, having a celebration? Everybody 'winning' as much as possible; a tribe-al thing?
thanks
who's for some
cool Game?
S
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Re: Leaving RUoW Group or Staying
Sat, June 20, 2009 - 7:49 PMI just wanted to say thank you --especially to Daisy and Rae for the warm welcome. I am a single momma with two kids and don't have a lot of time to write... but have spent some late night hours (when my baby is sleeping) reading some older posts and I am SO interested in learning about this Work. I have so many questions, I don't even know where to begin.........
~Sasha
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