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If I didn't have a Will wouldn't I be vulnerable? Others won't see that that i'm weak and see how to take my power.
Why is it that the Will has this thing of putting Itself in harms way?
Fuck you, FOM, When I was young kid I didn't have the consciousness or means to protect myself from my unparented parents. Scars, what do you know about fucking scars ?
I'm feeling the want to vent my fucking hatred of the Will & Body, here !
Why is it that the Will has this thing of putting Itself in harms way?
Fuck you, FOM, When I was young kid I didn't have the consciousness or means to protect myself from my unparented parents. Scars, what do you know about fucking scars ?
I'm feeling the want to vent my fucking hatred of the Will & Body, here !
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Re: My personal hatred for the Will & Body in my life
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 5:48 PM
W.L., what do you hate about how having emotions/feelings makes you vulnerable? how does having the feelings you have allow people to fuck with you and take your feeling of power/self-determination? in what kinds of ways does this manifest for you? do you see expressing emotions as making this better, or worse? -
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Re: My personal hatred for the Will & Body in my life
Sun, November 8, 2009 - 2:24 AMNathan, when I'm expressing myself I'don't want to be shaking or studdering my words in a heat arguement with someone to defend my space. If I'm cool,calm, collected, others will likely see me as not so emotionally reactive and not so easy to fuck with.
I know from the books that it says that Luciferian or denial spirits have this uncanny edge in knowing how to read me or many of us and exploit it to their gain. -
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Re: My personal hatred for the Will & Body in my life
Sun, November 8, 2009 - 9:52 AMI don't personally project that they, denial spirits, have the intelligence, sensitivity or attunement to "read" us. Its that they are really just honed in to something inside us..., namely our denial.
So how about a speciffic instance wherein this has happened to you? Care to share?
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Re: My personal hatred for the Will & Body in my life
Sun, November 8, 2009 - 12:32 PMNathan
If I manage to think of one, I'll message you privately about it. -
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Re: My personal hatred for the Will & Body in my life
Sun, November 8, 2009 - 12:42 PMsure thing w.l.
i read the chapter today in the green book you made reference to here.... about the will putting itself in harms way... -
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Re: My personal hatred for the Will & Body in my life
Mon, November 9, 2009 - 2:27 PMI'm trying to recover from all the hatred my Will has put upon my Body!
in it's reactiveness, which i have allowed to express, my gapped Will continually over-rides the needs of Body and seems to take it for granted that Body will always show up! Heart leaping from shore to shore across the gap hasn't helped much there either.
now, after taking my Body for granted, and pushing it past it's center continuously, I am supplicating it for forgiveness!
even so WL, I have been in wretched hatred for Body bc it didn't respond to my Will's desire for perfect health....now, i understand that Body is only responsive to Heart....therefore, i have moved emotion and released judgment to unite Spirit and Will as a way of utilizing my Heart to support my Body. I know this may sound kind of convoluted, but it has been a long time coming. in the past i had been allowing my Will to batter my Body about it's seeming unresponsiveness...and this has set me back a bit, but now, my Will is getting some awareness about It's contribution to Body's problem and is in alignment with creating a new lifestyle that is ALL ABOUT BODY'S NEEDS. EASIER SAID THAN DONE! HARD TO FIND TRUST FOR BODY AND WILL IN THE GAP AFTER LIVING IN HELL SO LONG, HEH?
I hope this helps some WL, and, I totally support the expression of hatred toward Body and Will as a way to clear the space for new awareness...
i have been allowing grief to move slowly through me as i am hyper aware of the aging i have descended into and i have been living the life of the old woman and am coming to remember what it felt like to die slowly of aging...it is a slow and disgusting type of grief that is barely vibrating and seems to be angry at me for not getting it over with sooner! so, yeah, at times i sit like that monkey in the second pan, just staring off into nothingness with little desire to move....it is a very reactive place for me, one i have had a hard time holding presence with for very long - but, my Body is accurately demonstrating my current level of denial as aged ugliness! so, yeah, i hate being ugly and hate debilitation - which i suffer from on various levels
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Re: My personal hatred for the Will & Body in my life
Mon, November 9, 2009 - 5:56 PMThat 's encouraging Andora.
I concur with your train of thought here.
Robert
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Re: My personal hatred for the Will & Body in my life
Tue, November 10, 2009 - 11:35 AM"I'm trying to recover from all the hatred my Will has put upon my Body! "
See, this is the shit I am talking about, Andora.You are so judgmental towards the will, and I do not share this perspective with you at all. I hate this perspective, it's what has caused all the gaps and splits, blaming the will like that. She is still holding this, while you just keep denying her and denying her and controlling her. This is why you sound so fake to me, why I can't take the shit you spout here.
Hatred is either love denied that has become compressed over time, or unloving light. I am feeling the unloving light in you that you keep forcing your will to hold, and that you throw out there as if it is the truth. Fuck you.
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DAISY
Tue, November 10, 2009 - 6:50 PMfirst of all -
I have denied and damaged all the 4 PARTS of God/Goddess
I am very aware of the splits between My parts!
this doesn't mean i HATE THEM!
I have suffered from HATING BODY....I HAVE CURSED FoM from here to damnation and back
so, don't put me on your ugly hatred time scale!
it doesn't mean that i hate my Will! I understand FALSE WILL and am cleaning up the mess it has left me with a heavy dose of understanding - INSTEAD OF ALL THE ENDLESS BLAME AND SHAME THAT YOU PREVENT RESOLUTION WITH!!!
what a miserable dead end!
it is all true
I LOVE MYSELF AND I HATE THE GAP
WHEN I RESCUE MYSELF FROM THE GAP I DUST IT OFF AND ALLOW IT TO EXPRESS
THIS IS HOW I LOCATE JUDGMENT FIELDS. SO I CAN AND AM ABLE TO RELEASE JUDGMENTS FROM ALL POV FROM AND TO EACH PART!
this is the lucid center of heart
TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR EACH AND EVERY PART OF ME!
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Re: DAISY
Wed, November 11, 2009 - 10:08 AM"I understand FALSE WILL and am cleaning up the mess it has left me"
I don't believe that false will is what you think it is. False will is your spirit's own denials. You didn't say false will, Andora, you said the Will.
You say these things that clearly show just how you feel about the will, and I hate it! None of your psychobabble is truth, Andora. It all feels bad to me.....all the long posts, self serving look-at-me, I am smarter than you posts, just psychobabble that doesn't make any sense. When I can glean something from what you say, it is like this, what you said above about your will. I am offended by it, for sure...
And yeah, we all have all the parts, but each in it's own special mix. Now, I am a Mother part mostly, which is probably why you are afraid of me. You have a lot to answer for, don't you?
I feel like what you present here is all daughter imprinting. It's so familiar to me! What you say here, I've heard it all before from the daughters in my life, so you aren't presenting anything new. But what you present are mostly lies and misunderstandings about your divine parents. I just get tired of hearing it, over and over again.......... -
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Re: DAISY
Wed, November 11, 2009 - 3:31 PMAndora
Your post here doesn't feel like psychobabble to me. Daisy, is digging into you because she probably has nothing else better to do with her time & energy?
I can't even talk about issues related to sex here on tribe like this without getting my ass chewed off by her and Luana. I read in the books that the Mother approves of sex and the desire of it. She don't seem to care for those sexless old biddies. -
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Re: DAISY
Wed, November 11, 2009 - 5:10 PMHey WL
Dude, Please-here again you don't want to just shout-out from the books: use a specific quote here. Whenever they brought up sex, it was discreet as all get-out-and never straight-out like this. Btw, SHE was called 'old biddy' as well.
PS-if anyone wants me to respond to Nathan (today's only?), please say so or ask. Thanks
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Re: DAISY
Wed, November 11, 2009 - 8:20 PM"PS-if anyone wants me to respond to Nathan (today's only?), please say so or ask. Thanks "
what's with you Scott?
looking for back-up/approval/support to go after me and cyber-bully me off the board now?
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Re: DAISY
Wed, November 11, 2009 - 8:27 PMI guess you checked your sense of love at the door.
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Re: DAISY
Wed, November 11, 2009 - 8:52 PMScott
I don't recall ever reading about the Mother being referred to as an old biddy.
Alright Scott, In the future i wll try to be more accurate with my quotes from the books.
When you say " They " do you mean Daisy & Luana or the Gods writing the books ? -
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Re: blue biddy
Wed, November 11, 2009 - 9:58 PMThe 'Gods writing the books' WL
heh-heh
strikes me a little funny the way you write sometimes
Yea, it was from the Blue when it began vortexing that she would hear such, I believe
Well, back to watching out for Nathan-idiot who probably could never give us an example of what will-power even is, as the books only work for those who love the Will (know what she even Is), even as he walked on Earth herself in this finest new Millenium ever and had the potential all the while...BOY is he not alone
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