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Re: Why we need a moderator;
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 11:39 AMdaisy,
am I missing something here,
but werent you a supporter of no moderator?
cant keep up,
maybe these are troops of nathan out on a mission,
anyway if they are ignored they usually go away.
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Re: Why we need a moderator;
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 12:27 PMYes, I AM a supporter of hands off, or no moderator, but those are rules too, right? If a rule is made, a reason comes along to break it.
Tribe.net isn't going to want to keep babysitting this tribe. They said that we could go without a moderator FOR NOW, until things calmed down.
There are times when we will need to intervene.
This is why I suggested a council, which most of us were into.
But no one wants a moderator.
So, we live with trolls? Is that what you guys want? Parts coming in challenging the rest of us because they think they know better than we do how we should conduct ourselves? We should take no action at all, huh?
I disagree, but then I am a grandmother and a mother and I also hold space for those too helpless and vulnerable to do it for themselves. I believe in being what I am, parental, when the situation calls for it. -
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Re: Why we need a moderator;
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 9:10 PMNo moderator.
There were trolls here before the ones YOU PERSONALLY judge to be trolls here, Daisy.
I was already pretty clear about the lack of personal responsibility that a council creates.
And JUST WHO the hell asked you to get in touch with .tribe concerning these trolls or any other trolls, without asking for a concensus first.
OH yeah, I see already how well this new moderator/dictator campaign is going and one hasn't even been nominated first.
karolina
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Re: Why we need a moderator;
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 12:54 AMaD, I agree with you with what you say about ignoring
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Re: Why we need a moderator;
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 12:31 AMI agree with Daisy's evaluation of Roger as a troll. He obviously has no RUOW business here, no desire or intent to have RUOW business here, and I feel no integrity in his intent.
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Re: Why we need a moderator;
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 12:36 AMgee, with zero friends...that is the real sign of a troll
but then go look a persons friends list
how many trolls are there...
integrity? lucky you could even
spell it
quik give me the quik synopsis of ruow
i have already stated obviously and truthfully
god
has been vacant, gone for a long time
but i am open...
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Re: Why we need a moderator;
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 12:46 AMI also agree that we can't approach tribe for help every time we want action to be taken, they're sure to get over it.
I'd like to see someone trustable to create a separate account to put in the moderator position, and then use the controls to act when to group votes for it. With a guarantee of ONLY when the group votes for it, not gradually moving in to some trip of they just feel like they need to delete here or there in the interests of the group. And an agreement that if the group no longer wants them as moderator, they leave.
I'd be willing to do this, with that guarantee ... my motivation in putting myself forward being that I feel passionate about that kind of hands off moderating, with the group making decisions. I have no personal desire to have the power of that position.
Daisy, thanks for caring enough about this tribe to speak out so quickly about Roger and Allan, to ask them their business here, and approaching tribe for help with this. I appreciate the courage and caring I feel in your doing that. -
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Re: Why we need a moderator;
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 12:57 AMwho should give a fuck about my business here
explain this greatness, cuz if you charge membership
i am outta here so quick and you can keep the your fucking
amway too
maybe nobody has bothered to question your premise...the "books"
wtf
quick, explain
i really did not like the answer when i queried about satanists, luciferians, scientologists
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Why we need a moderator; with limited power
Wed, July 1, 2009 - 11:55 PM
of course all sides are corect,
when we walk out the door the world is full of assholes
we have to ignore or bring in or pray for right place asap,
in the meantime do we want these nuts here,
do we need the strong arm of the law to insure they leave us alone?
I think not,
but a mild moderator with limited power could be a group solution?
semele you feel like you have enough balance to assume that role for me.
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Re: Why we need a moderator; with limited power
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 12:08 AMI agree with you, aD. I would love for Semele to do it. She feels really good.:) I would love Rae to do it too, even tho I know that she tried that once already and didn't like it. It seems that the people I would love for the job have enough balance to not want it. Bit of a paradox there. -
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Re: Why we need a moderator; with limited power
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 12:09 AMSome of them are willing to be a part of a group, though.:)
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Re: Why we need a moderator; with limited power
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 3:07 AMthanks aD and Daisy, I feel really touched -
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Re: Why we need a moderator; with limited power
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 7:21 AMI think what you proposed Semele sounds good....if you have the time and willingness to take on the role I will support you!
I still believe that the members can help make the job easier by standing up when things are not right and speaking our minds.
Thanks Semele
:)
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Re: Why we need a moderator; with limited power
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 7:29 AMIt would be nice if more members would at least speak up and give some input....just to try and include most.
I know this might not be possible, but hey if you are reading this and you have not given your two cents, please do!!! -
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This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.Unsu...
Re: Why we need a moderator; with limited power
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 9:14 AMMy two cents is that I'm not going to give my two cents.
I think the way I wanted to do the moderator job was fine. I got used for a pin cushion.
I'm not going to play the game anymore. If ya'll want to pretend that you are capable of deciding who's a "troll", whatever that means, then more power to ya. You're just going right past everything that's truly important here in my opinion. But I know you're not going to listen to that.
Ignoring people is a good way to make them feel powerless, and as the ruling group of females, you have the power to do that.
You can "decide' as a group who you want to ignore and get rid of, but that doesn't mean its right, not gapped, not judgmental etc.
I had reasons for everything I did as moderator no that no one who was on board for this coup has been willing to listen to. I'd say that I'd be on board with the idea if it were going to be unanimous, but that would be the same as no moderator, and I know that's not the idea. the truth is that nothing can happen here that's worth while other than bridging the gaps and as long as parties remain unwilling to do so, then nothing can happen here other than rehashing the same old shit endlessly with no new understandings being found.
Personally that is what sticks in my craw the most ... Far more than being removed as moderator, is that no new understandings have yet been reached regarding the gaps that have plagued this tribe from the beginning. Its all just being gone right past. I guess there must be some lesson for me here, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is.
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Re: Why we need a moderator; with limited power
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 9:47 AMNathan said:
"...no new understandings have yet been reached regarding the gaps that have plagued this tribe from the beginning."
I tend to agree with you here Nathan, I too have seen the same scenarios played out over and over regardless of who is the moderator. My hope is that we can build ourselves as a community and sort it out. The politics of moderator aside, we still need a way to manage the nuts and bolts of having a forum here on tribe if that feels right to those who are active here. I mean we all know there are other forums, other message boards, other yahoo groups, email lists etc...
It seems clear we all want to communicate, learn from one another, and be received somehow....
With no moderator we remove our ability to customize this tribe to fit our community. So far the only suggestion around this has been that of a group of members who moderate together (i.e the council). That seemed okay to me and I am willing to try that too. Karolina was the strongest voice against that but to me its all the same really.
Moderator, no moderator, a council of moderators, whatever...the issues we have here are still here regardless.
in my opinion, it’s up to the members of this tribe to make it what it is, and we have A TON of silent members and even more members who are not "official" members of the tribe but come here to see how we are and what we are discussing.
So what do we really want here?
With much respect for all involved,
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Re: Why we need a moderator; with limited power
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 6:43 PMRae,
the question I have when I hear you say "our community" is 'whose community'?
So far the 'community' is mainly comprised of you, Daisy, Semele, and aD, as the founding members and last time I checked there seems to be gaps open with me and at least some perhaps even all (?) of those people, and I feel I have been judged against as being largely at fault, in any of the instances where these gaps have surfaced here. and there are those members of this aforementioned group who have both expressed an unwillingness to even communicate with me on it. so obviously I don't feel comfortable with the proposal. As the 'community' goes, I'd bet my last dollar Its not going to be receptive, inclusive of me by its very nature, so why would I support it?
It really seems to me like bridging the gaps needs to come first. building anything like "community" on top of the gaps feels like an attempt at a workaround to me; (speaking of rehashing!), and a continuation of an unloving blueprint-based creation whose very foundation is now crumbling all around us. One person, Karolina, I feel is reflecting this.
Anyway, that's my opinion. I don't expect it will be listened to. I expect you all to pretty much go ahead and do what you're going to do regardless of what I say, and I guess more power to ya if you do, but I don't foresee myself taking any active role in it. -
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Re: Why we need a moderator; with limited power
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 7:16 PMTo me this whole moderator thing is nothing but one huge gigantic diverseion. I had good reasons for doing anything I did as moderator and that was never discussed openly as no one has ever genuinely inquired. Instead it just turned into nothing but endless hurling of epithets at me and casting aspersions on my credibility and integrity which I feels is pretty much completely unfair..
a lot of the issues of the issues people were having with me were not even really related to anything I did as moderator, but rather were related to personal gaps, as a matter of fact I'd argue that all the issues were rooted in personal gaps, but instead of being dealt with and addressed directly it all got diverted to the moderator issue and to attacks on my integrity as moderator instead which to me shows a very immature level of healing intent on the part of those persons involved. i won't name names.
that's all I have to say on the subject. Do as you will.
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