Luana the non-RUoW-online person

topic posted Mon, June 15, 2009 - 11:20 AM by  Scott
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"And Scott
You better watch your wolly, venis fly trap, babbeling lips, TOO !
you better check your oversites with me or i swear to the great god of indifference i will seal you in a cave AGAIN ! where you can comtemplate your shaministic under and over sites for another thousand years.....un interupted !

Scott, this is exactly why Chela dumped You like yesterdays garbage, at the end of the day, you are a babbeling, incohearent, perma dork !
Go haunt a house, FREEK !!!!

Scott....Im surprised that ANYTHING, EVER "adds up," in your deranged and scrambled brain.
Go get a shave and a hair cut, see if that helps any.

W.L. read the books
or not

Hey Scott,
You should come to ark and meet my boyfriend billy
Im gonna get some ibogain seeds, and, grow some plants, the fruit will purge you of those addictions.
Nathan is a real groovy guy, He was just haveing a moment, He is alot more whole than RUOW dorks like you and W.L., so, it follows that He has more issues....I dont think He likes witches, He is from the north ya know.
and
Nathan CAN BE sexy, You and W.L. are a couple a grumpy, spun out, dorks with a severe, probably irreversable, case against Mother/Daughter. Dorks who couldnt get layed in a woman's penitentury with a fist full of pardons.

Thats right Scott,
I did all of that, ....and much much more, but if you think that was bad, wait till you see whats next for your little pathetic H.S. ass, than im gonna get to work on your FOM shit, and, if there is anything left of you, im gonna have my way with your tripped out spirit....

Love Me or die, sucker ! "

All this goes back past 2003. Here's one excerpt from earlier in this tribe from Anon (maybe Andre~)
"Dear Heart Broken
You are absolutely right that it is almost inpossable for even ruow people to get along and not gap UNLESS they are pretty evolved in the workings of this process
If You will notice, this forum is peopled by a group of just such "evolved" woman who never had anything even close to an argument.....well....that is until all of the less "evolved" people started showing up to give Us all a hard time
Yourself included....if you do not "resinate" with Us....than Yes PLEASE You are welcome to go and find Your own group who You can "get along" with.....Than, later on, You might be able to find Love for the woman here who working so hard to help Hear Our Mother from with in Our Selfs
cause
If You do not LOVE Us....than yeah....ill bet We all DO sound like a bunch of "unevolved" angst ridden, tragidy Queens.... : ) You know how that goes, right? : )
Love "

She has Lesbian Fliights or Sisterhood Flights that seem she's just Held and in that, is utterly normal.
She doesn't know what fragmentation I am.
She does not connect RUoW with online process. Here in the past, the common desire was to maybe channel mother-since that's good for all, one carries the flame for that but with Luana here it never is a group, a camp, whatever. She is caustic-we've long wondered and pondered why and what we could do, to no avail.
She's ousted the hell out of newbies who've barely made a peep every year while she's aware of the pain and loneliness-so she claims-.
She did not keep contacts offline or on the side online.
She only 'fits' b/c it's a bad, mean world out there anyway, but she's not doing anything about it HERE. She doesn't 'back it up' or walk the talk. Occasionally we'll hear such an effort but don't be at peace or relax about it; yknow: heal.
She DOES have bad intents not healing by RUoW process (years have passed remember) and she rails these at innocent others-most innocent are children and women-. These bad intents have gone past Godchannel.com's given guidelines of online processing-abridging as best they could with RUoW.
She does not honor other RUoW'ers.
Her personage seems to be part gap itself, however unique so if one wants to heal the gap, it's impossible sharing online in any way or place with her there.
She does not honor people's actual works here, from articles to live healings.

For her 'allies' here I have more if it goes on. It is a put-down on us all to portend to deal with the real her and yet allow her gap to be dividing us all. I have become more constricted in my trust b/c of this: say, one opens a private tribe who's aligning with Luana-and also won't allow new people or people already here into such private tribe (to stay away from Luanas of the world or to harbor their victim sides). Admit the ignorance involved or it'll be too long a wait.
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  • Correction

    Mon, June 15, 2009 - 11:25 AM
    Here is the Anon post. Above is the Luana post (June 13 07 same thread 'This Tribe Sucks0) Apr 13 07:

    I can't resist my impulse to express how disgusted with I am with what is going on here. Can anyone else feel what I am feeling or am I alone? This jerking off of self isn't real Mother channeling, there is no substance to it at all. And by substance I mean real emotional charge! I know they are just words on a page, but real emotions come through anywhere in my opinion, and that isn't what is happening here. This tribe is taking up space in my head and on my tribe page, so I am leaving it to the rest of you who seem to think there is something real going on here.

    I've heard more sincerity from a bum on the street or the shit coming out of my ass. What the fuck is wrong with these Mother contending angelic asses? Why are there so many members of this tribe listening to this bullshit? It seems like membership has grown not waned. I just don't get it. You can't process here because Luana is such a Mother on earth rager who wants to take everyone down as soon as they show some vulnerability. I am going in search of the real thing, not this crap. I have been doing ruow for over 20 years, and it seems to get increasingly harder as time goes on to find anyone really doing the work.

    Fuck you Luana, Sally, Meera, and Unity, whoever you are, for wasting my time. I'm outta here.
    • Re: Correction

      Mon, June 15, 2009 - 11:50 AM
      Whats a matter annon, nobody getten juicy enough with the sexual confessions?

      You're right though....with creeps like you lurking, i think i will just mozie on too.

      Unity, do You see this? : ) Love to You, glad to see that its not just ME in his/her? sites : ) Im in some pretty illustrious company here : )

      annon, 20years ? LIER !!!

      I am deleeting myself from this tribe....Thanks everybody, i Love You ALL, see ya on down the road.

      Annon, it will be easy to see who you realy are when you leave....
      NO 20 year reader would even dream of being as stupid as you are. with your murderous drive by.... We were just haven some fun here.....
      I KNOW that the REAL stuff has already been hashed and re-hashed YEARS ago...You must be kin to the fire dragon to come here and be annon...Thats ok....but not very evolved on Your part, to not catch yourself there, i would say.

      Scott, watch and see who leaves....bet nobody but me does....this creep LOVES to lurk this site, it fuels his imprints....or hers...but i doubt it is a woman.....sounds like a 3 year reader who is gay and hates woman.

      Thanks Scott

      See Ya in about 17 years annon, dont let the door hit ya in the ass on your way out.
    • Re: Correction

      Mon, June 15, 2009 - 11:57 AM
      Hey Annon, why dont you go over to wolf creek fairies where you might get cyber corn holed by one of the other fags.

      " i cant resist the impulse to express, " that is such a dead give away that you have NOT been doing this for 20 years......how bout this one

      " those who can not resist the impulse to APPEAR more loveing than everyone else." unevolved, purple/green, poser.
    • Re: Correction

      Mon, June 15, 2009 - 1:53 PM
      Scott

      I wouldn't leave on the account of the projections of Luana or Meera. Why give them your power this way ?

      W.L.
      • Re: Correction

        Mon, June 15, 2009 - 3:38 PM
        for all those power problems we had b/c she stole, W.L.

        I got her right on my homespun, fine, silky, wet
        little Thread here,.right where I want her...

        muAHAHAhaha haha!!!
        • Re: Correction

          Mon, June 15, 2009 - 3:53 PM
          This ANON guy moved on years ago to the brother/sister circle, after he spent about 5 minutes here.

          I personally could care less about this guy for one simple reason, he's not here. Attendance counts, staying present counts in my experience.
          • Re: Correction

            Mon, June 15, 2009 - 5:39 PM
            God thanks alot Kero !

            Dont so much protest the treatment this gives Mother,Light....but Man You sure are a stickler for "presents"

            Heres the difference between You amd me pokahauntass, I would NEVER alow some Mother hateing fag to speek to YOU this way....

            Go back to sleep, Snow White, Your council elders love you
            • Re: Correction

              Mon, June 15, 2009 - 5:41 PM
              I ment to say, "dont realy give a shit what this Mother slayer has to say to me, but man....etc
              • Re: Correction

                Mon, June 15, 2009 - 6:04 PM
                I'm not Camping, if that's what you mean
                I mean, what ARE you eating?
                I cook fine; a woman would do better, true.

                That world won't let you Jeremiah-Johnson it; won't let me build my own place
                won't let me stay in one area too long
                I just won't kiss the devil's ass
                amazing no girls at the same time, hmm?
                But man, did I get some Camping down anyway!
                wooHOO!
                I almost got to Philmont(?) the Boy Scout haven in Colo.
                for all us boys dreaming of real life on Earth, y'know....I was there,
                am there

                sounds great your spot there
                best with it-I can hang for now
                settle in THEN do more Camping
                (has been the idea)
                • Re: Vortex Effect

                  Mon, June 15, 2009 - 11:23 PM
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                  www.youtube.com/watch

                  The Nature of Persons, Dualism vs. physicalism
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                  Catholic Inquisition and the Torture Tools
                  www.youtube.com/watch

                  John Lennon & Chuck Berry-Johnny B. Goode
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                  Robin Trower-Bridge of Sighs-LIVE
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                  Albeniz "Asturias" complete cello solo version Georg Mertens Australia
                  (Doors 'Caravan' tune)
                  www.youtube.com/watch

                  Bruce Springsteen talking about Chuck Berry
                  www.youtube.com/watch

                  Weird Al Yankovic "Craigslist"
                  www.youtube.com/watch

                  Hot Abs Workout (in lieu of Core Synchronicity!)
                  www.youtube.com/watch

                  some days this just happens!
                  Can take requests;
                  comments questions outrages?
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: Vortex Effect

                    Tue, June 16, 2009 - 12:48 PM
                    "The Nature of Persons.." I don't recommend; an image caught my eye for a second, that maybe we could talk of. But content-wise, all he covers in this LECture is a person has a body and a soul. That's it! After all, it's Yale.
                    But then there's Luana-doesn't this guy seem one she really likes to target, after all the targeting of everyone else practically? But then in a past, she's embraced Joes like this-I forget her one friend. And Alex Jones?! Forget it! Ugh! No! There's your 'babbling lips'.

                    I ran into someone from educateyourself.org: another nutter!

                    Her, your, Reptile friends are all at or through Desteni.co.za.
                    Do we hear anything? No
                    Come on! The Girl says out loud how she LOVES to see one's Egg broken between lives as they face their unknown void et al ,

                    mmm, queen of Sultry, always on for a next date, Enil
                    60 feet of Reptilian bliss, hmmm

                    So did Marduk make you, have sex with you or mix you as human with reptile before the Flood (o, 'hybrid')?
                    • Re: Vortex Effect

                      Tue, June 16, 2009 - 1:24 PM
                      Please, just be yourselves while we go through stuff here; BREATHE!

                      Rage that leaves the Earth and doesn't b/c it belongs here are some cruxes here.

                      I misspelled Enlil.

                      And Marduk, one always pronounces with rolling the 'r's...'Marrrrrduk'...

                      The evil Reptile, Anu, is gone, dissipating. Marduk is too, just don't know how to say it right now.

                      That leaves Enki, who I'd think was a female at first but isn't.

                      These are/were all Reptiles who were ALIVE this whole time. Anu was going to take over Bush's body in 2006 but it all got caught/failed.
                      Humanity is reaching the End, so, let's be our real selves and at least stop the tortures, rapes, murders, starvations. Money doesn't reach the poor, so, FAIL.

                      A big thing on the way is, Stopping the Mind. Hitler might pass through on the way, depends, or, I can't say/don't know. Really looking, he's about utter cleanliness as Lost Will of God there, and I remind he lived until the 80's and things grew in South America; a town of twins, for example.

                      Anyway, real selves
                      good luck
                      • Re: Vortex Effect

                        Tue, June 16, 2009 - 1:29 PM
                        To add, Hitler really HATES the robotic systems humans were infested with since after Pan
                        and to disengage the systems one has to master stopping the mind
                        That's what he wants cleaned.
        • Re: Correction

          Mon, June 15, 2009 - 3:53 PM
          Uh, that's from 2007 there uh 'L'
          probably Andre~ a very mainstaying poster here of ruow who exited (as far as I know).
          Didn't mean to really copy the f-u's of his here again
        • Re: Correction

          Mon, June 15, 2009 - 4:05 PM
          Seriously Scott....Where are you ???...
          Please consider comming here to ar. for a visit or whatever...cause i wanna feed you some collard greans and swiss chard smoothys and some real good cheese melted on some other garden vegetables and i beem makeing noodles...man, with a little ameno acids and some hippy dust ( nutritional yeast) NOW You got ya some GOOOOOD eaten.....and LOTS of herb tea.....i got PLENTY of real good food and cheeses and You can stay in my guest trailor with a guy named Gabrial who you would LOVE.....You GOTTA get a load of billy too....as they have also gotta get a load of You : ) You can help me crack some nuts and smoke some fish....I got a old trailor RIGHT ON The river PRIVATE, no one else is allowed down there, it gots a gate, and no tresspassing signs, its about 7 miles south of here...you can catch Us some fish to smoke , and You can shoot the shit with the river rats that float by . : ) also bring a tent....i got a moter scooter ...dont you still have a truck ?....billy is also a shaman, he is a POWERFULL Prayer when he gets to witnessing to the lord, he is a preacher and he knows that bible cult bullshit COLD !

          Love You
  • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

    Wed, July 15, 2009 - 1:53 PM
    if you don't loove god the earth mother
    not only will you FUCKING DIE


    but you will -- and i mean WILL miss ALL THE FUCKING FUN.

    trying to crucify her, i see. sickening and i'm coming from my HEART,
    dude.


    over and over again
    misogynist pricks.


    www.godchannel.com/forum/me...2149.html
    • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

      Wed, July 15, 2009 - 5:50 PM
      Funny I missed this post earlier, your only blaming-a-specific-person one I ever heard from you, Mikal.

      Defense,..deflection (off of others here): shallow, Mikal. Good you have Heart present for this, so something OK will come out of it, in time.

      Meanwhile, you're just wrong-
      as long as we get your Feel, that can be OK.

      Maybe you haven't paid enough attention in real time to all what's been going down recently. Or show us you have read the heated stuff, inc. death threats from Luana. At best, she is Daughter, but what sh'es given us is Rage, and the wrong kind of rage. Rage in general you can stick up for but don't get all specific with a person here and call it all-that w/o better back-up.

      It's scary, yea, b/c while projecting off of others here, leaning on them, you could be wrong with associating say, me, with being wrong when I'm not. It's a familiar gap to do...it could trigger and it's been hinting right around me-and like I said, I somehow missed this one post of your flurry today.

      There, 'the sun has come out' so, later
      Honoring your moves-checked your punk site anyway (?)

      S
      • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

        Thu, July 16, 2009 - 4:29 PM
        i came here to help people and be with others.

        i lack a reason to deny ANYONE'S divinity and since i READ the books

        i really frankly question the "reasoning" behind anyone ELSE denying anyone's divinity.

        it's pretty clear: the word from source is that beings that don't want to live in harmony with ALL the aspects of the Mother
        (because none are to be thrown away to satisfy male mortal mentality) are GOING AWAY FROM THIS PLANET.



        Right Use Of Will is CRYSTAL CLEAR ABOUT THAT, dude i have never met in life
        and if you don't like that you can move your rage with yourself all you need to. so far
        i get here and luana and nathan -- who i know online from discussions years ago, are
        getting RAPED by the rest of the board.

        nathan's exhausted and luana's withdrawn in a fucking rage. it's sort of cruel.

        i know what judgment release is (pp. 16 book I) and i know when people haven't done it.

        there's little togetherness and a lot of infighting and often someone like
        semele or seth or poor nathan has been suckered by young, experimental souls
        into a position of unwilling Judge so that people could spend time moving rage against others
        instead of doing what we all need to do on the inside.

        i'm pretty much utterly intolerant of the "your gap" or "my gap" argument.

        it's The Gap, period, it's heartlessness and EVERY JUDGMENT THAT SLITHERINGLY TRIES to justify
        prejudices, against women, gays, whatever...The Gap is heartless judgments that lead to atrocity.

        God knows what it is and so do i. did people start to get proud and snide because they JOINED UP to bash Luana?

        rage and the mother will continue to go together until the planet is pure and natural, more like it was in The Beginning.

        Humans can do that and it can happen very quickly. I wish you GREAT FORTUNE in learning how to release judgment
        but i won't be an intellectual punching bag for someone who i am sure is not so big off line:
        and the idea of my OLD FRIENDS from Seth's board getting beaten down because they PARENTALLY go all out to help the youthful souls here is disturbing enough for me to say so.


        no argument needed here...judgment release is the difference between manifesting heart and just
        repeating stuff you have read.


        friend.
        • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

          Thu, July 16, 2009 - 4:33 PM
          Well said, Mikal! Thank you for saying it out loud. I came back here just to tell you that. :-)
          • Unsu...
             

            Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

            Thu, July 16, 2009 - 6:04 PM
            "it's pretty clear: the word from source is that beings that don't want to live in harmony with ALL the aspects of the Mother
            (because none are to be thrown away to satisfy male mortal mentality) are GOING AWAY FROM THIS PLANET. "


            Mikal,

            I don't get where this is coming from. I mean I don't accept that I have to come into harmony with any point of view that feels bad to me whether its coming from someone who is or claims to speak for an aspect of the Mother or from anywhere else. This seems like a pretty loose interpretation of the books to me, and could easily be taken liberties with, esp. when there is so much blame still held in the various points of view.
            • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

              Thu, July 16, 2009 - 8:28 PM
              I don't get where you're coming from either, Mikal (and therewith any alignments building up on it)
              I was saying you're pushing a gap if anything here-something ungrounded. unfounded and not making a lot of sense or connectedness.

              One example is I was there everywhere you mentioned in our past, too. And, that where I've changed stuff to be noticed in the posts of a year here, you're intimating I am repeating.

              I do not see anywhere where I'm not doing my best in living in harmony with mother etc., with exception (of like, gap itself of course).

              I stand by all that happened here with Nathan, let alone it's all in the posts themselves
              again, as if you haven't read them. It's been very black and white for me. It's no affront against him or his person, see-but where some necessary bits occurred, I stand by..

              So, be more clear, I guess I say-and if attacking me, that too: be clearer.
              Maybe you cannot at the time, understood

              It's NOT clear about what is moving off the Planet-maybe each in our personal worlds may seem to clear, it's yet to pervade such forum. Certain levels of rage, yes. I have 'nothing' to do with that, as some sort of cushion you can flail on about it. Firstly, for ex., there're mother and father warrior rages.
              Spirit rages.
              Unmoving rages
              But of all these, what are you talking about, as concerns Luana and I? It's clear what I was about, and upon only what she said, was giving. That's it.
              I made this thread over it. Now, it's your job to know what the essence is-and I must accept some efforts toward that along the way.
              I mean, we've all tried to call what rage it's been, yes. Point is, it didn't change much, that is, from HER. What are you saying about that specifically? Unmoved rage is unmoved rage-we all CARE.

              What are you really moved by here?
              I really am interested in what you're moving about, k?
              I am NOT interested in lines, games, traps and pitfalls that this rage is responsible for
              and we might have to unwind some of that, in true healings. But notice-and has been pointed out-she 'disappears' whenever healing intent shows
              I will continue with healing intent happening, myself. I know more how to move things than before..

              It's like....Luana's rage having no light at all, which has yet a ways to go before forum use. Adding that this goes back through several forums. You have what's repeating here mixed up, hmm?

              Is that Saul the Poet at your site? That's cool.

              S
            • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

              Fri, July 17, 2009 - 4:32 PM
              "I don't accept that I have to come into harmony with any point of view that feels bad to me whether its coming from someone who is or claims to speak for an aspect of the Mother or from anywhere else."

              Agreed. That's what our personal Wills (Mother aspects) are for -- feeling our way through to feel what's right for us as individuals. When we honor our personal Wills, we honor Mother. It's as simple as that.
              • Nu
                Nu
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                Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                Fri, July 17, 2009 - 5:18 PM
                and yet, the judgement of
                this doesn't feel good to me
                thus I don't have to
                hear it
                be near it
                help it in any way
                is exactly what left the Mother suffering both in Heaven and lifetime after lifetime on Earth
                it can be a very fine line/balancing it
                but if something comes along that "doesn't feel good", for healing's sake, I always dig down deep to find out what part of me is bothered and why it is so
                how many through the ages have denied the Mother because she didn't look so good, didn't feel so good to be around, et cetera ?
                I've spent quite a few years healing my will
                and yet
                it is not yet so very healed and perfect that I consider the problem to be what or whom is triggering it rather than my self
                • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                  Fri, July 17, 2009 - 6:34 PM
                  "but if something comes along that "doesn't feel good", for healing's sake, I always dig down deep to find out what part of me is bothered and why it is so "
                  Mybe good for to do. For me that would be guilt.
                  Long imprinting to do these self-inventories rather than notice the obvious.

                  In fact abused children will
                  often
                  do this.

                  "let me make sure, really, really thoroouououghly this ain't my fault fore I let that reaction come through."

                  But then there are people I wish would balance their slapping anything that make's them uncomfortable.

                  Won't name names, but it's ironic.
                • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                  Fri, July 17, 2009 - 6:38 PM
                  "it is not yet so very healed and perfect that I consider the problem to be what or whom is triggering it rather than my self "

                  And dis would include people who do not take all triggers as merely triggers.

                  Who say no to something and mean 'no' to that creature 'out there'.

                  Perhaps they are triggering you and your fear of what it be like
                  if you did not have the
                  requirements

                  self inventory before blame
                  self inventory before rejection
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.
                    years later
                    on the cache
                    it makes you look like a WEENUS
                    like an ASS
                    who didn't read "The Unseen Role Of Denial" -- or who skimmed it way too quick.


                    maybe think seven times before crucifying one of Source's friends, dummy.
                    she might know more than you if you stopped insensitively pissing her off.

                    Judgment Release
                    Page 16
                    THE FIRST FUCKIN' BOOK.
                    • What I LOOK like??!!

                      Dude, for ten posts you've been shouting about Judgement Release and Blue book and Luana
                      TO NO ONE

                      By the 7th and 9th post, there's some direction you're talking about me or possibly TO me
                      and I responded

                      To date, there's not a single Clue of what you're talking about in a GROUNDED sense!

                      I'm not talking about Luana 6 years ago, nor ONE year ago, I'm talking about Luana's more specific actions at this forum ONE MONTH ago or so.

                      When Nathan was getting ousted-just AS Nathan was getting ousted..

                      With her there, there's not one single CAUSE why she did and said what she did in any reference from yourself, here in supposedly addressing ME about it!!?!!

                      There's no judgement from me for ALL eight years, Fella. That means, I am talking about something REAL. You don't mention a single realsim here!
                      DUH you're supposed to do a mite of homework if you want to participate. It STILL looks like you've no idea of What Went Down., No references, no nothing-just eight posts of DUH HUH?, two more maybe talking about me-not with me at all-
                      and finally closer like this
                      and I experience it like a lesser Hit, like a warm feeling of something New in the veins; ears somehow Softly burning, like a Thrill alone.

                      but an attack nevertheless-a huge No-No


                      When you get there.
                      Meanwhile of course, stop it or leave.

                      Thanks
                      Tcare
                      and piss=off with that shit!

                      blessings-these are available in cases like yours upon payment
                      S
                      • SCOTT

                        I FUCKING HATE YOU FOR PUTTING UP THIS WILL MURDERING THREAD .

                        YOU FUCKING MOTHER KILLING DEVIL

                        YOU COULD HAVE BEEN WALKEN IN HIGH COTTON WITH ME......
                        BUT NO!!!! YOU HAD TO BE A MOTHER CONTENDING FAGGOT !!!

                        FUCK YOU TILL YOU TAKE THIS THREAD DOWN AND APPOLOGIZE

                        YOU FUCKING GAY ASS MOTHER HATEING, SLOBBERING, BABBELING, DRUNK ASS FOOL
                        • Like I can prove I'm not drinking, heh heh, Pink-
                          there's some post confusion with Tribe blinking out on me: Saying 'Sweetie, blink, blink, blink', is for you Pink
                          Nice to see you around

                          Now, this other thing

                          I imagine pieces of Love of Mother getting out after the original Kills of her heart but yours would've went to the rage-polarity, Lu-loo

                          The dragon people and the lava people REALLY need you and your big-ass ways, that is, would you get started, with forgiveness undoing the promises and pacts made deeply in their subconsciousnesses, which you k now EVERYTHING about-and so do others who wait for you or not.

                          Until then, you get NOTHING from me
                          The more you're blatantly wrong here like now today, the other day, in such other threads too, the better, what the hell as your posts go. You want deletions, you KNOW where to start. You are not practicing RUoW until then, sort of like Nathan. Only then might you and I whatever. But, sweeping up is a part of it so: To It.

                          S
                        • Say Luana

                          What gives there 2-3 weeks back of wanting all your posts here to be deleted?

                          Still on the anti-gay agenda, eh ! I'm sure there are awful lot lesbian women out there that appreciate that kind of talk?

                          Hey maybe, I ought come down to east of Little Rock, in them Ozark hills. We can both watch " Deliverence " and check out them inbred folk dare. Yuo from wanna a dem families dare by chance?

                          Luana, what do hillbillies do during Halloween? pumkin !

                          Hey if Deliverence ain't your forte, we's could always watch " Oh Brother, Where art thou " & listen to the Soggy Bottom boys? Day got some goot tunes dare in dat film.
                          • Yeah its no secret, i HATE the whole fudge packer movement

                            Not the woman....alot of them, but not all of them

                            Yeah why dont you come on down so billy can kick the liven shit out of you

                            I STILL WANT ALL MY POSTS DELEETED !! AND ITS NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSSINESS WHY....YOU ARE LESS THAN NOTHING TO ME !!!

                            YOU EVIL DEVIL FUCK !!!!!!!!
                            THIS IS JUST ANOTHER TRICK OF YOU TO TAUNT MOTHER INTO LOOSING HER COOL SO YOU COULD SAY....
                            OH LOOK MOTHER IS LESS THAN NICY NICY....YOU BEEN DOING THIS TRICK ON MOTHER FOR ALL OF HISTORY.....GOD KNOWS WHO YOU ARE !!!!!!!N AND SO DOES MOTHER.......THEY WERE JUST WONDERING WHEN YOU WERE GONNA TRY YOUR OLD MOTHER KILLING TRICKS AGAIN.......IN ALL OF THIS TIME YOU HAVE LEARNED NOTHING....THATS WHY YOU ARE SO UGLY, NOT SEXY AND GAY....FORM FOLLOWS ESSENCE
                            • THE REALY SICK ASS THING IS THIS....YOU ARE PROBLY SITTEN THERE JACKING OFF WITH MY RAGE....YA FUCKEN CREEP !
                              • .Her rage is righteousness if anything
                                while she's lauded the one post that said it the best, like a blindly seeking of balance
                                The Godchannel post Voices from Across the Planes yadi yadi

                                It's still only righteousness
                                It is not right, though, in many cases

                                Then there's guilt thrown in for the kix, for the evil light-if any-
                                she's gusto for bad light
                                then actually competes with it in others which keeps it in place

                                You can apologize if ANY here were thrown out or pushed out to receive torturous guilt
                                polluting this world terribly
                                and peops are dropping off from it as we speak
                                And thinking Guilt is God
                                Luana bathes in it, promoting it
                                then mentions being clean and All That-well, wherever she ends up 'with that'
                                it's one or the other

                                Luana doesn't Change, see
                                she doesn't get off or away from guilt-bad light-rage complexi
                                like a real healer would and does

                                Is there Forgetting going on? Shall we abide?

                                Not to push or pressure into real healing
                                Clearing the confusions: others still think rage is right
                                it's only righteousness, a bad light get-off
                                which uses guilt 'any old time and place'
                                Everyone can allow rage as they choose or allow
                                just know we ain't One wid dat in cases here.

                                (I didn't touch/delete any posts btw)
                                Like this thread CAN'T go anywhere b/c essence has been wronged and threatened and misunderstood
                                punished and played
                                while all things Human attempt(ed) to bear with
                                such lack of humanity
                                I won't and don't buy it
                                and this one says that this is Daring
                                in a wrong way (?)

                                The girl is a child, messed up
                                what else can we do, what do we do?

                                We play a GAME here
                                and a few keep screwing it over
                                I did my best so far to make this plain
                                WHEN it was happening
                                WITH my best

                                what else could Children do but escape to old planes like old light and guilt and use them here
                                It MUST get weaker
                                bet on it

                                and more death threats-one of the things I'm talking about here
                                from someone who can't stop hating the Universe and EVERYthing in it
                                shut up with that!

                                Period.
                                • DO
                                  you
                                  INTEND
                                  to
                                  stop
                                  hating?

                                  WILL
                                  you?
                                  • Daisy, I just met you, you haven't asked me squat
                                    let alone think you have my go-ahead to GUESS
                                    I'm a satyr or a mother hater
                                    or a fag
                                    out loud
                                    in rage-polarity cursings that
                                    murder and rape innocents
                                    when they pass through to the unprotected and undefended
                                    down the line
                                    the fragmentation
                                    the Rainbows
                                    whatever
                                    Africa

                                    A bit of a FAIL, Daisy
                                    for what is scoped out for us to handle in those books

                                    go it alone like this, people see, I see the Fail
                                    taking your risks
                                    Please don't go that far again here-if you would apply what you just said: denial doesn't know it's denial-
                                    I know what this thread is doing here, in comparison
                                    Thanks
                                    • Yes
                                      and I have

                                      intended
                                      intent
                                      to stop hating
                                      experienced it

                                      And Willing it includes support ongoingly
                                      like here

                                      It's for Luana, really, if anyone else is getting mixed in here

                                      blow some rage, I guess it's good
                                      IF ONE DOES THE REST OF THE PROCESS
                                      • Scott, get over yourself. Like me, you don't know JACK SHIT. No one does. I am insignificant as well as immensely ROYAL. When you are ready to get off your Luana attack, I will get off your back. You are being an asshole.

                                        I have no intent to STOP hating. I have intent to EVOLVE. I do not hate hate or rage like you do, so piss off with the threats. I don't have any ears for your falsities.
                                        • Oh, you only mean the shadows of my letters: right you don't have to take that.
                                          And you mean the healthy side of rage-precious rarity I'm fully with.
                                          Me, attack? O, please. That's where I have rights to such thread: people, look at the wtf HAPPENED already. Know your source. If you would, we'd have something special goin on. HER attacking is off the charts, entirely ungrounded but like directed energy weapons, it does damage. Think she knows?
                                          Where GOD created it? O man, you're asking for real discussion.
                                          • Ever since Luana responded to you with less than approval, you have been gunning for her, Scott. You and WL both. I have simply pointed out that, you are triggered, which you have denied over and over again.

                                            I......am done.

                                            Love,
                                            Daisy
                                            • Excuse me? YOU know this as THAT? Whether I'm 'approved' or not?
                                              and by her-that?
                                              Maybe I WILL mention whatever do you mean by 'ROYAL' then
                                              hmm?
                                              Some special place and I'm either wrong or not allowed? That not everyone here is feeling Royal?

                                              What do you mean, being on my back?
                                              Or you're 'done'?

                                              Rage,...presentations, viewpoints
                                              but stuck there
                                              and a book said it ALL
                                              for you

                                              But I AM struggling with being here
                                              between the author's wishes and Dragonesse
                                              and being needed, appreciated or even loved

                                              but hold all
                                              for some bullshit rage some more

                                              everyone
                                              hold all
                                              for that
                                              it must be something dangerous
                                              something they wouldn't mess with

                                              or at least get right after a while

                                              well, on and on
                                              S
                                              • When did I deny being triggered?
                                                When did I admit I was triggered?
                                                There's triggers like one's essence being beaten that goes with adrenaline, stuff like that.

                                                Then there's being reactive, a smaller version of being triggered-quite average.

                                                WHAT do you want to know here Daisy?

                                                You know Luana's expert as firing rage and damaging, you DO know that-yet somehow, you slide right by this necessary fact to understading this 'session' today. You only want the other person-as much love as any other, (if that matters-and you mention this too; does Luana need love more than others here for some reason? WHAT is that reason then?), to admit if THEY are triggered and then what, nurse Luana if she was triggered in some darkness from here? Fine! But I see zero results.

                                                But there's also being spontaneous.
                                                It's Luana that fails all 'tests'. Admit it, move along
                                                Heal it, move along

                                                either way, it's movements she's not doing or about, thus wasting time
                                                could've got some homework done
                                                but
                                                • Like I said, you don't know shit.
                                                  • Just talk, Daisy
                                                    with the whole internet
                                                    then this group
                                                    surely you may talk better
                                                    more appropriately and humane
                                                    evolved, like you were saying-?

                                                    Gang bangs are essentially triggers
                                                    hit by a lightning bolt, a person could be triggered the rest of their life
                                                    I think we need a WAY more solid base of knowing what triggers are aloud together here first
                                                    than to risk bantying yet aNOTHER good word-meaning around 'forever'
                                                    abused

                                                    Triggers to me mean a deep victim state while also unbelievably harassed

                                                    Reactive is a bit common and the good measuring stick whether we're healing or not

                                                    I guess I'm refuting what you say, it's true, I am-always will in such case

                                                    Stay safe

                                                    Luana's problem is on the perp side of things and locked there, meaning to be there and be used. That's in the zone of evil, what is called evil
                                                    and there's nothing you can say or so about someone handling it: exposing it, sometimes. On the perp side, that you're a woman doesn't matter-all is indistinguishable, where they deem to live: no heart.

                                                    You keep siding with heartlessness, burping from heartlessness and other unhealed areas, how sad.
                                                    Good luck
                                                    Hope you enjoyed the opportunity here of airing out old stuff; major odds against it healing this way, you know.

                                                    But do I know shit, people? I either get a real answer or they're remaining with their own shit-shit that has its places

                                                    Talking to a Daisy wall, wow. Places for walls too when you get there. Compare it to Life on Earth and you know what I'm talking about

                                                    Be mad but don't just talk shit anywhere
                                                    • Scott

                                                      In Daisy's book if I take exception to anything she says, I'm taking things too personally.But , I guess, Daisy you sure as hell don't ?

                                                      Daisy, " The Dead Girl " movie that's for you. Brittany Murphy plays the role just as well as if Courtney Love was in that one. Then after you see it you can open a thread about it and discuss it? You can erotic visualizations about it.
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                                  Jesus. I am really triggered by this thread!

                                  Daisy,

                                  I have had these problems and wanted to say some of these same things about Scott for quite some time. I am actually feeling really pissed at you right now though because I see you as having supported and encouraged him in his gunning for me when it served your purposes of taking me down. I wish you could see how schizophrenic you're being. You are so fucking heartless its not even funny anymore.

                                  I feel W.L. should be cut some slack here. you've no idea what this kids been through or how screwed up he is as a result of it. I know he can be a real pain in the ass. I know FIRST HAND how awful his hatred can feel, BUT I HAVE FAITH THAT HE WILL COME AROUND.

                                  I also know first hand how bad it feels to be bullied by Scott's completely Willess denied hatred coming at you relentlessly. Not that ANYBODY FUCKIGN EVER GIVES HALF A SHIT what my experience has been here. Now you just come in and its just Oh spank the evil bad men! Well when it serves you you don't MIND ONE BIT if the "evil bad men' do YOUR DIRTY WORK for you, do you?

                                  Fuck that shit, Daisy. Be accountable for your self for once in your life. you don't get to pull this schtick anymore of acting like you don't have involvement in the gap.




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                                    Anyway, at the same time as feeling triggered in this way, I can't also help but feel somewhat validated and vindicated by this. When I was on the recieving end of Scott's Willess hatred here not too long ago it was one of the most hellish things I have ever experienced. He seemed to take pride in that too and I had to deal with the reflection of him gloating in grandiosity about having whatever, 'smote' me, (as though he had accomplished this single-handedly) which was horrible..... I am really pissed at you for the active part you played in this, Daisy, and I don't care if you know it.
                                    • But Nathan, man,
                                      did you write posts about Scott
                                      like Luana wrote posts about scott.

                                      Do you have a habit of labeling, categorizing, explaining the level of and spewing out that a specific person is basic
                                      evil?

                                      I can see validation in this way.

                                      "Now you hate him but when I hated him you backed him up"

                                      Like my friends should not be friends of my enemies. All human.

                                      But I dont see you xpressing anger like Luana does.

                                      I dont see the judgment

                                      You pissed at Nathan, you pissed at the Will.

                                      Oh, you have a problem with Nathan, then you hate the will you cocksucking talmudic fag.

                                      And then validation from some sides that, Oh, you hate Nathan you a willhating not attractive pig.

                                      See, thats enough to make someone crazy.

                                      I cant connect with scotts tone. Wish he more blunt. Cant read his will so straight here.

                                      But there something crazy going on, for long time too.

                                      I got mothers round me. They get pissed, when they get pissed. They dont lable anything that does not accept something they say as motherhate. They dont label, grade, whip out 'credentials'. They deal with issue at hand, concrete, careful, however blunt or passionate. So this labeling feels wrong to me. Feels like dearth of mother and a bad rewarded habit.

                                      Not doing Luana one bit of service.

                                      Like I really connect with your blunt message to Daisy here. Not reacting to that charge and what's on the bottem there, not that I know what that is, but it feels very right on to go there.

                                      But what is the terror bein avoided round Luana I do not know, but man I feel it here.

                                      Look at all the confusion avoidance and the light it is always grabbing into itself then selling to other RUers.

                                      Shut up, the perfect words were said here and then we get a link.

                                      Can't you feel the self hatred in that.

                                      Enabling on a grand scale I see.

                                      Let this Will, yes, I think she Mother, essence fall into confusion and not grab at bullshit websites grey light - or do you, Nathan feel like the sites she loves are all that damn willish - do you call her on that? -

                                      Cause the fawning and its ok cause she's like uber mom

                                      its a fucking problem.

                                      And in the end for her the most.
                                      • Look, everyone has hated everyone else here at one time or another. I don't give a fuck what anyone thinks about me, not at all. And I can do or say any goddamn thing want.

                                        Nathan, I am sorry I didn't see Scott until recently. He has always felt off to me, and I have said that out loud. I don't get his stupid language or why he can't just talk plain english. As far as WL goes, he doesn't give a shit about me, so why should I ease up on him? I am sick and tired of Mother haters. I can't wait for them to be wiped off the face of the Earth.
                                        • I have probably had the worst life imaginable, but WL can be a jerkoff to me if he wants. I don't care. Why should I give him special consideration for his problems, huh? No one has given that to me. In fact, every time I open my mouth here, someone jumps down my throat. Nathan, stop asking me to go easy on people when I am not given that consideration, by you or anyone else. I never said didn't have involvement in the gap. We ALL do. Yah. I do not have to work it out with idiots or "bridge" with assholes. That would be an impossibility. I am bridging the gap on my own without any help from you motherfuckers.
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                                            Daisy,

                                            I wanted to respond more thoroughly to this and hope its ok.

                                            Daisy wrote:

                                            "I have probably had the worst life imaginable,"

                                            It sort of feels like guilt to me you saying you have had the worst life imaginable.... To me it seems all relative, and I don't agree your experience has necessarily been more horrible than mine and I honestly don't care about measuring it or comparing it. I think its basically stupid and pointless to do so. I would say your life experiences have been more vividly horrible. I certainly don't have all that much in my life that's horrible that I can point to, except that much of my existence has been lived in the gap without love. Although it might be a lot less dramatic and vivid in nature its not necessarily less difficult to heal what the experience of that has done to me, and what's happened to me in the gap is just as vivid as the horrible experiences you speak of. I have the evidence of this imprinted on my form. It is written all over me and all over my life.


                                            "but WL can be a jerkoff to me if he wants. I don't care.
                                            Why should I give him special consideration for his problems, huh?"


                                            I would say you probably shouldn't. If it doesn't feel real to you or if you don't connect to that and feel genuine compassion there, then I would say you absolutely should have no reason to give him special consideration and to do so would be guilt, not love. Just accept yourself as being where you're at is really the best you can do. Its certainly more important to accept one's self than to accept others.

                                            "No one has given that to me. In fact, every time I open my mouth here, someone jumps down my throat. Nathan, stop asking me to go easy on people when I am not given that consideration, by you or anyone else. I never said didn't have involvement in the gap. We ALL do. Yah. I do not have to work it out with idiots or "bridge" with assholes. That would be an impossibility. I am bridging the gap on my own without any help from you motherfuckers."

                                            Hmm, well I don't agree with that statement.... Actually there's a lot in that I don't agree with really, and in a lot of different ways, It doesn't really bother me that that's how you feel if that's your truth of the moment its fine, but I feel I have given you consideration. I haven't wanted to give guilt that's all, which is really very different.

                                            I've noticed others have expressed validation for your suffering and for your work on a handful of occasions too, and maybe some of that is guilt I don't know. I am guessing it probably is to some degree since apparently you either don't notice it or don't feel very deeply satisfied by it. If it were real recognition for what you have been through and suffered, I would think you would feel validated.

                                            I can see where you're coming from with all that even if I don't completely agree 100%, and i support your right to your perspective and feelings anyway.
                                            • Nathan: "Sorry, but I gotta tell it like I see it. "
                                              "Anyway"

                                              sounds like a free-for-all by Nathan here
                                              my thread

                                              watch it, 'boy'
                                              • And YOUR Homework, Nathan, is to tell the group in about 500 words what good shamans have been for the Earth, the Humans as well as the Universe, ie in Harmonies. What victim experiences might some of them have had throughout (I'd like to know. In Kymatica, they said shamans and shaman groups were especially targeted early on in takeovers. But little else have I heard)? Probably not much you can come up with

                                                And who were they to 'our' Four Parts? (prob. Grandfather)

                                                You and Lu dissed them all-just trying to make it easier for you here, naturally speaking.

                                                Hmm, and what of earlier homework ass's? Guess you failed.
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                                                  Scott,

                                                  I am not dissing Shaman's or any other group. I am not even 'dissing' you. I'm just giving you what I honestly feel about you, that's all, and that is I don't feel like there's anything in what you said I want to respond to. In fact, I'm sorry I addressed you at all.

                                                  I'm sure you'll have a load more of your blah blah blah to respond to this with, but I beg your pardon if I just skip over it. I don't enjoy you very much at the moment. You can criticize me for that all you want, but that doesn't change it.... just makes it more worse.

                                                  If you like, I'll even get out of your thread now.
                                                • 'getting another chance'?!
                                                  TOTAL SUPERIORITY PLOY
                                                  You'd do it now/again! TOTALLY NOT EVOLVING
                                                  Lu-lu too here: superiority. Fascinating the twin superiorities witnessed-and oy, does that imprint have words to rule ya's-why, she was just speaking of mind control!!. Dead imprinting, but...
                                                  Ooo....Kaaaaa
                                                  Cheers to y'alls Oneupmanship going DOWN

                                                  I started this to bash Luana? Extra 'benefit' that comes along with the ACTUAL MATTER

                                                  possibly to 'entertain' you when you're still lost by such imprinting mentioned. Free to go with stuff leaving the Earth type-thing. Told ya to watch it, shut up and more, plenty of times. I just don't see how you can make it very far, what you're up to. I certainly will have my limit, duh.
                                                  • O Andora
                                                    O Oh O

                                                    You come SO close
                                                    I'll just let your words and meanings be

                                                    Yea, back in the moment I surely meant it, carrying on to make this thread.
                                                    Doesn't look like anyone's going to see the difference in Fire that's of concern.
                                                    But the way you say Daughter couldn't help itr/can't help it now...sure is some nice lubricant, would-be. God, how come she hasn't known it THAT way for these years anyway?

                                                    Look again, when you feel up to it, what this thread is all about. There's more alright than just 'my judgement Luana is practicing non-RUoW'...

                                                    Should I connect the FULL trail of it to it all being asuric/spiritual parasites, well then fine. I just prefer good wood burning a healthy fire, by a long shot in some cases.


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                                                    Scott,

                                                    So like you to jump all over me for that. Your posts are chocked full of such ploys of superiority aimed at me, and mostly I just ignore them.

                                                    Before you point out the mote in my eye, take the plank out of your own.

                                                    Now, please, stop trying to dig your hooks into me and attend to your own stuff and leave me to attend to mine.

                                                    • God, Nathan, you say you're frickin leaving so I abide, then you come and take another crap in MY thread! Dude, own your shit.

                                                      Daughter abandoned HER?!! Takes some adjusting to where you're coming from, Andoira as of course Original Story helps. I've mentioned these goody aspects of her, of course I have. No one has to take her ruining many potential healings going on, though. She's ripped so many....What for? THAT responsibility....and quite a few things I say-just b/c some don't pick them up, doesn't mean they're wrong, inappropriate or untimely. Etc.

                                                      But yea, I'm not meant to be here every day and every night either. There's bad intent here, and deeply faulted Intent (from her) Andora and it need be checked! The time came, and here it is

                                                      S
                                                      • For the screaming down below, WL has said he is remaining neutral when bringing up sex and he wasn't doing 'that' in any case
                                                        at hand,
                                                        like on the phone once.

                                                        As far as loving orgasm...y'know, I never bought this free-for-all/anarchy thing. Seth began it LONG ago-maybe it's for those already healed-

                                                        For me, it's one by one, one-by-group using temporary controls at first if and when things get worse or heated or just plain bad. Coming closer, if still together, the LONG way to loving orgasm, comes a time when the explosions are fully known experienced fully, yet watched; enjoyed by all. THEN the loving orgasm.

                                                        Here? I hope Semele gets a better intro soon.

                                                        Andora's book has had a price I do not compute. Can't do it yet.. So no reading it for me?! How strange. But i suspect 'pangasm' until i read her stuff perhaps, nonjudgementally. I suspect it. But nevermind, gotta watch out for projection CONstantly. and be satisfied in my moments.
                                          • Daisy

                                            You being in your victim is so pathetic. Now you've changed your crying photo here again to this new image.Thanks for fabricating bullshit projections like me pulling my wire while talking to you on the phone. I was trying to connect with another RUoWillers since this such a fucking lonely, isolating healing pathway.

                                            So instead of you and Luana blowing up at me about the sex stuff that I bring to light here on tribe, any possible chance you could say something like " W.L. I 'm really fucking mad at you for mentioning such'n such" Is that too much to fucking ask for?

                                            Fuck, I've heard you curse about people here not owning their emotional charge in this way. Walk your fuckin talk. I'm really really fucking mad at you, Daisy !
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                                              Scott,

                                              You actually WANT me to respond to you, and you're trying to hook me, inflict pain on me, punish me, and vampirize my energy as you have in the past, so I think you protest too loudly about me responding in "your thread". that was a menacing, threatening tone you just took with me back there with the "watch it 'boy' comment.

                                              I for my part, don't really want anything to do with you at the moment. I think you really need to take a good hard look at yourself here.

                                              W.L.

                                              You really need to learn when to count your blessings shut the fuck up. Don't make me REGRET sticking up for you AGAIN.

                                              • Nathan,
                                                you're paranoid
                                                You have to move all that to grasp understandings
                                                such as
                                                I'm not talking about you, with you. You're just not my friend and all-you're 'over there'...That's that.
                                                Just the necessary specks of temporary words that give light to darkness-which emotionally you can't take, again, b/c you allow the unmoved understandings do the talking
                                                instead of just moving your feelings. Then you'd notice something different.
                                                Instead, you claim you feel/pick up my 'denied hatred' and such...not very nice.

                                                I'd LOVE to FIX that-what is it exactly 'moving feelings' or not per this situation, hand it to you on a platter so you'd just do it (what the books have been saying to do. Instead, there's a lot of force here that forces people to talk overmuch. Patience.

                                                but your denials won't do the walking/talking here
                                                however you-or anyone- must learn that

                                                But I think
                                                you care no more about guidelines-if I can't take hearing from you fer now and/or you can't take hearing from me. This 'force' has forced one and another past these, even just to FIND them at all. BUT...some guidlelines are blatantly gone past and voila: empowering heartlessness.
                                                Choose along here, what can I say?
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                                                  Scott you arrogant fuckhead,

                                                  I KNOW my feelings about you have a perceptual bead on an actual something.

                                                  I know how badly you want to grind that down, kill it and "destroy the evidence". What cowardice! I am on the brink of annhilation already and all I hear is that you just want to shove me all the way down so you can feel all "high and mighty". .

                                                  I don't care what you think. I don't care what a goddam genius you are. You got nothin' on me.
                                              • Nathan

                                                I didn't ask you to stick up for me. And what blessings are you refering to ?

                                                You made a statement," W.L. will come around " ! Come around to your position on things or what?

                                                I don't appreciate you telling me to shut the fuck up. Would you appreciate it if I spoke in that tone to you?

                                                In the back of my mind I really wonder had you still been moderator with all that I've posted, would you have allowed it or banished me from this tribe group?
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                                          Yeah, well I guess I didn't see Scott either until he turned that shit on me when I was moderator, and that's when I kicked his ass off.

                                          Then I wanted to make peace and tried to have him come back, but he seemed to want me to just basically admit I was wrong which I wouldn't do.

                                          I opened the gates and told him he was free to come back, but he demanded an invitation be sent to him. I think this was something he interpreted as me admitting I was wrong to have removed him. I went ahead and sent it, but I feel that was guilt on my part, and I think at that point guilt began gaining leverage to take me out.

                                          I was then appalled when he started horning in on the conversation Luana and I were having in the "THIS TRIBE!" Thread as though he hadn't just been over at the RUoW II tribe badmouthing me with W.L., and even claimed that Luana and I had hijacked that thread, just as though he had some right to it now.

                                          As far as W.L. goes, yeah, he is one tough nut to crack, but we all can be. I guess if you don't feel like cutting him any slack, then don't feel one bit bad about it. I just felt the need to express that for myself. My advice is maybe just ignore it when he acts this way? As far as what he expresses here, it doesn't seem to matter to him much either way whether you do or don't cut him any. The guy's just that numbed out to it all I guess.... and I guess he's not as sensitive as I am to feeling terrorized by that shit. he just seems to let it roll right off like water off a loon's back...., but I guess I feel there is something salvageable in him that something in me feels like being an advocate of.
                            • Luana

                              What's harm in being Bi ? If two women or two men feel the need to find an expression of love with both sexes. at least give them the credit for seeking out to which feels good to them.

                              I wonder if the four parts of God have an issue this sort of thing ?
                              • Luana, these triggered idiots don't even know they are triggered into their Mother hatred, because denial doesn't know it's in denial, does it?

                                Both of them, stupid wankers who hate their mommies and every other strong woman who ever walked the planet. They HATE mother for saying her truth, what's on her mind, and heart. Neither of them will live unless they find some willingness to admit what fudge-packing, raping, lying Satyrs they are. Talk about Frags, right? Got nuthin' better to do that to torture us, my sweet.

                                I love you with all my heart and soul, Luana. Don't listen to these bastards. God will deal with them all, in the end, right?

                                I mean, I keep asking and asking them ALL to admit their mother hatred. I admit how much I hate Father. When I do and I move it, I find more love for him. Easy peesy. I walked into an AA meeting on Saturday and said out loud, "I FUCKING HATE GOT, THE FUCKING PRICK!" Everyone laughed, because they GET IT. These assholes never will because they just want to take us down.....as soon as we disagree or refuse their repulsive and hypocritical lying bullshit.

                                Hows that?

                                Love you, hunnymommy.
                                • "Luana

                                  What's harm in being Bi ? If two women or two men feel the need to find an expression of love with both sexes. at least give them the credit for seeking out to which feels good to them."

                                  And here you go Wonderious Wound, glomming on to the SEX perspective. Figures. You both repulse and disgust me. You are lower than worms in the guts of a bottom feeder. Fucking bastURDS.
                                  • Daisy

                                    It takes one to know one.

                                    From now on I'm going to refer to Luana as " Uncle Frank "

                                    Yeah, that character "Colonel Frank Slade " portrayed by Al Pacino from that movie " A sent of a woman ". Do we tell or do we not tell, should we let this blind asshole die.

                                    In this universe there only one two whole slyable word worth mentioning; " PUSSY "

                                    Can you listen to that sweet voice, there's fire underneath that dress.
                                    • You have been totaly taken over by a tv mind controll program....its all you ever talk about....

                                      I AM A MOTHER/GRANDMOTHER YOU STUPID FUCKING DEVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                      I KNOW THAT THE MORE YOU BELIEVE YOUR SELF TO BE CAUSEING ME PAIN, THE FASTER YOU STROKE YOUR TINY SATYR DICK.........I REALY THINK YOU SHOULD BE KICKED OFF THIS TRIBE....AND THAT IS THE FIRST TIME I HAVE EVER FELT THAT WAY ABOUT ANYBODY IN THE RUOW PROCESS........YOU ARE SEXUALY GETTING OFF ON CAUSEING WOMAN PAIN AND CONFUSION AND LOSS OF SELF LOVE HERE....AND YOUR ORGASMS ARE VERY MUCH FEEDING THE DEVIL THE POWER TO MURDER MEN, WOMAN AND CHILDREN !

                                      THERE ARE MANY MEN WHO TRY TO HURT RUOW WOMAN.....GOD HAS NOT BROUGHT US THIS FAR TO WATCH A DEVIL LIKE TAKE US OUT.....YOU EATHER SOBER UP, AND CHANGE YOUR NAME AND COME BACK AS ANOTHER MAN WHO IS NOT A SEX PERVERT....OR ....OR....GOD WILL MAKE YOU WISH THAT YOU HAD

                                      THERE YA GO YOU LITTLE PERV, STROKE FASTER !!!!!!!!!!! FASTER !!!!!!!!! FASTER !!!!!!!!.....TILL YOU BLOW YOUR TOXIC HATE LADDENED WAD IN THE FACE OF OUR MOTHER.....THATS WHAT YOU REALY WANT TO DO....ISNT IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ???????????

                                      I FUCKING HATE YOU

                                      AND DO NOT DILUDE YOURSELF INTO BELIEVEING THAT IT DOES NOT MATTER
                                      • Unsu...
                                         
                                        Scott,

                                        Last time I checked this whole place is nothing if not a "free for all". I thought that's what we wanted.

                                        What were you hoping to make of this thread which you started primarily to bash Luana?


                                        Lu-lu,

                                        Are you okay? Who are you talking to, W.L.? I must have missed something, what did he say?

                                        I am very concerned when I see you being like this.... if I were still the mod he would probably be still kicked off, and so would Scott, but I guess now they're getting another chance.

                                        And anyway, now that is not my preference anymore. I hope things can be bridged here and that its not necessary to start kicking people off, but I always tend to err on that side of thigns. I am sorry that this loon guy is giving you such a hard time though. I really am.... and you can take it all on out on me, if you want.

                                      • Wow Uncle Frank,

                                        your real ferocious with those words, ah your just a fucking pussy. You won't even task resposibiltity for what you say here and then have all your posts deleted. Oh that's real noble and couragious, you gay bashing sorry heap of maggot shit !

                                        Geez you were here for a bit and started laying in with the threats and then you disappeared and now your back again. Now you would like to see me removed, go for it try to have me removed. I'll suggest to help tribe to read your posts here on RUoW group, when I send them an email of your intent. I think you should be removed from this tribe ! But Somebody here is moderator.

                                        I don't give a rats as what you are- A HUGE RAGE Fragment of the Mother, no doubt.

                                        I just adore your projections and judgements, Uncle Frank. Did you manage to move any of that blaming rage off line ?

                                        Causing what women pain? Did all the women here ask you to speak on their behalf ?
                                • Scott

                                  Isn't interesting how Daisy & Luana like to speak on behalf of Mother-Father God and that our time is going to come in the end.

                                  I guess thet have no desire to see these gaps heal with projections like that.

                                  Daisy can call me a total asshole from her private tribe, when a subject is not even directed at her, but I attempt to fuck with her there, she'll banish me and then consider letting me back when I have more respect for her on the other women on that tribe.

                                  Daisy, I thought it was rather interesting that the two women didn't respond in the same candor or manner in which you did. No wonder, Scott & I left your control fest tribe.

                                  Right now, Daisy, I think you're being a real fucking dork !
                                  • LOOK HERE YOU LITTLE PEST....YOU EVER CALL DAISY ANOTHER NAME LIKE THIS I WILL HAVE YOU CLEANING PLANETARY LATREENS WITH YOUR TOUNGE FOR MILLINIA....I WILL....NEVER !!!!!!!! FORGET THIS SIN YOU HAVE MADE AGAINST OUR MOTHER/DAISY....SOME DAY....SOME WHERE....YOU ...WILL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DO PENTANCE FOR THIS ASSULT UPON OUR MOTHER'S SOUL.....EXPECT IT !!!!!!!!!!! A CURSE AND A POX UPON YOUR EVERY INDEVER UNTILL YOU REMOVE THE CURSE YOU HAVE MADE UPON OUR MOTHER/DAISY. WITH A PROFUSE APPOLOGY....WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU ....FOOL !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ????????

                                    NO MATTER HOW BIG OF A RAGE YOU BELIEVE YOURSELF TO BE
                                    THERE IS ALWAYS A BIGGER RAGE THAT WILL CONSUME YOURS

                                    ( Daisy Honey, stress not on this internet sexual preditor, the lame loon, .....
                                    if he wernt here getting RUOW Mothers to give him free dominatrix sessions, he would be over at www.bitchybeauty.com

                                    Shit ! so now Pink shows up and all She sees of me is Mother who is screeming in agonie while She is being set upon by a pack of jackles in the form of these creepy DREGS of the men in this process.....WHERE ARE THE.....REAL !!!!!!!! RUOW MEN ??????
                                    • What ever you say RAGE FRAGMENT OF THE MOTHER. You have no power do to fuck all to me here. Uncle Frank.


                                      Oh Daisy, you already presume that I don't give a fuck about you. If I didn't give a fuck about you, I wouldn't bother to thank you for useful suggestions you've given to me here and I do value that. But thank for your kind feedback whether it comes from a rational place or not?
                            • Uncle Frank wants her posts deleted here. I guess she can't stand to look back and reflect on what she said to me and other people here.

                              Ethier that she can't own to be accountable for anything she says here?

                              • > > >
                                > > >BECAUSE: WHEN YOU REALLY HAVE RELEASED
                                > JUDGMENT,
                                > > YOU WILL CEASE TO PERCIEVE YOURSELF AND LUANA
                                > AS
                                > > "DIFFERENT"
                                > > and begin to see yourself on BOTH sides of the
                                > > gap.
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > our discussion of right use of will ENRAGES the
                                > > denial spirits.
                                > >
                                > > they aren't on our side,
                                > > they DESPISE the idea of our happiness,
                                > > and all we have learned concerns them. they
                                > ONLY
                                > > exist on the psychic plane,
                                > > they are not form, will or any kind of Spirit
                                > > that will live through these Earth Changes...
                                > > they are DENIAL and they want us to be separate
                                > > and unable to see Ourselves in each Other.
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > wake up, man...Luana's just not the bad guy.
                                > > you actually think her rage is unfounded...BECAUSE YOU'RE JUDGING AND THEN DENYING EVERY BIT OF HER ENERGY.

                                it contributes to her rage, and for that matter, my rage too.

                                to go on proudly denying it is Ahrimanic. You get to be on the team with Dick Cheney, Pol Pot and all the other sick little Hitlers
                                who blew off those who FELT so that they could be righteous deniers of female energy --

                                out of balance, and dangerous to themselves.
                                i WILL


                                make this point!
                                > >
                                > > you need to Release Judgment and there's little
                                > > else i can say to you that will matter.
                                > >
                                > > you have to.
                                >

                                you have to.

                                if you DON'T release judgment you're literally full of it
                                it's an imbalanced filter that distorts everything You see and the way You see everyone.

                                Scott.

                                you have to release judgment. jesus had to, and you have to, too...

                                that is: if you want RUoW to be meaningful and not just exhausting.

                                i can't say anything else to you and in fact WON'T WASTE MY TIME
                                until i see that you've released judgment. when i speak with luana about this, she agres emphatically and knows exactly what i'm talking about.

                                i'm unfriending you.

                                it doesn't mean i don't like you, because i DO like you.
                                it means that unless you RELEASE JUDGMENT (pp. 16, FIRST BOOK!)

                                it's a waste of effort for me to go on with you.

                                i didn't read what you wrote because releasing judgment helps you UNDERSTAND,
                                and if you haven't...you just don't.

                                yer arms' too short to box with god, dude...

                                release the judgments. you have enough time for it to change the way you percieve things.
                                • See if you can forgive Mikal here people, or leave it be
                                  He's been the closest to i n s a n e here than anyone-
                                  taking this 'move' of Luana's a few months ago and hailing shit from far out in right field.
                                  If you can't read my email-reply then you can't claim you're God boxing and post out here moreso in public with this denial.

                                  Just out of the ball park: WHAT is he talking about?! 'Who cares' if he aligns with Luana while WRONG?
                                  He's a broken record too, apparently, which goes back. Perhaps he has Luana on a dias, whatever, the present topic is WAY past being stuck; she's simply, busted-so we see ALL about it and her (and when and where she can't admit she's wrong as hell). She trips right over it into sheer righteous rage BUT WRONGLY. SHE IS NO EXAMPLE dammit.

                                  I can't sit here and GUESS what denial Mikal is humpin'...one should know to bug off. Maybe it' so simple as HE is judging, also which i can't guess at WHICH judgement of WHAT. Nor can I 'dance' with his perceptions of me that might be clouding him from years back-as well as further alignments with others as such: judgements.
                                  I keep saying to him, I'm not judging her whatever-rage or essence. What I'm talking about is her severely being WRONG and especially made plain with this recent 'reversal' game she ploys, indicating a small heart-whatever when mine isn't the same at all-stop judging we're the same. We're so different that all THIS has to play out til she holds a balance.
                                  All this and more, he's obviously gone past indicating he's going past stuff in himself. Sorry man, gotta chill the outer stuff for more ease in accessing this inner run-on.
                                  There IS a way of course to check your problem-at least you USED to mention stuff about your grandmother (a long time ago, I can hardly remember correctly) to see how your life unraveling shows the issue.
                                  You want me to 'psychically' FIX you (as a general friend and particpant here), you have to do 'better' than this, this 'ride for free'. It's a run-on, a blatant indicator of denial the author, you, is holding. I keep saying Luana is hurting others down a line and Mikal is trying to be an example.
                                  You guys have NOTHING. The denial's been shown and you continue to run pell-mell past yourselves. Whatever, but I tuned the situation and I'm clear of the errs here-by Luana-I will get treated right for it, just a matter of time and hardly the issue: Luana's huge denials in relating online and with RUoW..She's TOtally ineffective in serious ways when it comes to me and some others who are key. I show it here and that's that. 'Yesterday' in fact. It's no longer my problem, only to stand by having stated the simple facts of what happened in the clear sense it is said/known (for being so damned confusing and heated and sheer hell of her). The more you Mikal or others go past it, the more bull' you'll be seen/known as doing.

                                  I STILL have NO idea what you're talking about b/c you're not talking about anything REAL to the situation! WHAT are you talking about?!
                                  You MUST have me confused with some formulation in your mind and all with another 'me'. Clear all that, 'try again'.

                                  Of course you 'like' me, but this 'teaching' me session of yours is a load of crap dude.
                                  I mean, you wrote and said how much I stink-what are you doing here, being d a n gerous?! You like me, I stink, what's up with that? Think it's GOOD after a point to be so split further out?
                                  S


                                  • auX
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                                    jerking off on phone

                                    Tue, August 4, 2009 - 10:54 AM
                                    "I have spoken with WL on the phone in the past. It felt like he was jerking off as he was talking to me. I couldn't prove it, but it sure felt bad. I stopped talking to him after that."

                                    daisy,
                                    wow I was just telling a friend about a neighbor boy from my childhood,
                                    he would call me quite often after school and mumble things on the phone,
                                    while jerking off,
                                    then for a real treat here and there when I would walk past his house,
                                    he would stand in the big front window,
                                    and jerk off for me.
                                    I was so young I didnt really even know what he was doing.
                                    however now I do.
                                    aD
                                  • Just wanted to say thanks to all of you joining in this thread here
                                    this morning which i didn't see til later
                                    maybe we can catch up with it all

                                    Welcome, Worm-don't know shynola about you.
                                    I can only be blunt and more easily Read when the Feeling is there

                                    Luana is far from supporting this Feeling, straight up. WhaEVER she is otherwise, so?
                                    She's cooking something deadly and wrong and I busted her, whatever THAT is of her.
                                    For example, we had just had a deep healing session occur
                                    when two minutes later, she lashed out like I hadn't heard in several years.
                                    It was obvious then, see? It was not in the present. She had no follow-up. Check again why it's hard to talk, to commune: love won't coexist with hate...but add Luana flinging HATE. OK? Simple.
                                    She's known and read all this before. And she's gonna Blow aGAIN?! Fuck, no.

                                    She NEVER 'sits down and talks', she ALWAYS has her super-fly evil-source crap-in-the-sky viewpoint and rally; these are definitions of evil. How is that conducive to healing atmosphere?!

                                    Then the rest, Daisy and Nathan chanting will-hatred, mother-hatred of me. Is that how you say it when you're not sure, are wrong? Then, why? What has this thread to do AT ALL of self-hatred/mother-hatred by ME?! You wanna talk hatred, you go to Luana, stay put and see where it gets you.

                                    Or at least be grounded in saying what you mean. Of COURSE it's embarrassing and what-not to speak self-hatred b/c it's yours. You have 'instructions' what to do there-just don't go out here too much as an escape AND fling whatever at others 'because you can'.

                                    Luana's a loser in this arena, this one part of the healing, this one way, one development: internet group. But a really BAD loser!
                                    That shit chills out, all the rest does.
                                    • Fuck, ain't that the truth.

                                      Uncle Frank is beginning to be a predictable, explosive reactive, emotional timebomb.

                                      Scott, did you see how she took a strip off Worm in the other thread for not aligning with her position towards me.

                                      Say, Daisy there might be some psychic boundary karma stuff to be aware of with the jerking off stuff. If I ever do decide to call you again in the future, I'll be sure to ask for your permission; Is that okay with you?

                                      In a way it be nice to see Shenreed back here on RUoW Group?
                                      • Who asked you (Nathan)?
                                        Where we get that phrase from: just here mentally insinuating guilt ,referencing a past thread AS guilt-likely-
                                        and otherwise, being wrong again. Guilt-for I seem to find nothing of value or essence in your effort. Guilt b/c there is talked blame. It's a nice day, you know, anything about that-like evolving? Just worming around in someone else's stuff...don't know WHAT you're talking about-YOU handling things back then; it doesn't align or ring true at all...an of course not WITH anyone or thing here. Just you alone in your mental interpretations, wheeee
                                        • Yea, you said it:(N) 'desperate... 'One better.'..

                                          'Spot on'
                                          Only to some levels
                                          • Oh! It's to Daisy, from Nathan
                                            in MY thread
                                            about Luana
                                            impersonal or anti-personal to myself
                                            and others

                                            ooo-more dark party time
                                            • 'I'll live' and more senseless quip
                                              bathroom's over there
                                              • Peace is good!

                                                I offer some more here. I've referenced the Eagle's Egg meditation, an audio at www.shamanic.net;
                                                new but definitely a thorough meditation. You need an hour to take it in.

                                                This brings one to some Core, I'll call it. The gap notices but YOU don't/the mind doesn't: you have to experience it.
                                                You can play shaman doing this meditation; a shaman FULLY has to do this meditation for effectiveness; all around, all the time.

                                                One key therein is Non-attachment, another way of saying Core. More than just Grounded. Thing is, one doesn't brag about it b/c simply, there are all kinds of degrees of being in 'state', of Non-attachment. That's between being attached to things and DEtached to things. ALL things, really.
                                                A whole Course in this and you're trusted to at least be doing the full Meditation. There's more to this of course.

                                                From there, 'something flew' you see. I was only much more active at this forum b/c of an obviousness of Nathan's moderation: his mind, and his negativity towards women was showing, month after month, year after year. It's kind-of obvious when you know SOME basics of the books. (Yet he still complains this day)

                                                'Something flew' just after the fact Nathan was no longer moderator (nothing to do with 'going down') and of course, I'm talking about Luana, who began to appear, be active again, in the midst of our Moderator procedures. I hadn't spoken with her for quite some time-no clues as to where I was in any linkage and all'.. Just some basic chats, right here, if you will, and it was there and then a healing session seemed to occur. Fine!

                                                Nathan continued to be outed and bam! Just bam! out of the blue (of Nathan's no longer moderation?)

                                                No core. No ground.
                                                Death threat, etc.
                                                It kept going, thus this thread.

                                                You know? : something EXtra, on top of what we already for years knew of Luana's failings-which seem to still split some unfortunately-This was extra...No Grounding and deeming allowance for it despite everyone else. If people do not see the problem with that, then I CERTainly opt for splitting up into more favorable forum places. One with and what-not for Luana and one definitely not, if that's what it takes in her demanding presence (is this what she HAS created in her 'power'?)

                                                How else to deal with it, or stop it
                                                Not hearing from Tracy, or Semele awhile, (some others) hard to tell...

                                                Staying as it is is a silent acceptance for giving pain at a most raucous pace. I say No. I see no indications that what she's been doing is being taken responsibility for. My foot is down-I remind initially only about Nathan-

                                                It's asuric hell, allowing her. There's more to Life than that! While, we're TRYing to accept ANYone now who has HAD asuras in them and this is raucous enough.
                                                Keep making up your 'minds' and closing 'energies' comfortably safe....we'll see...


                                • Unsu...
                                   
                                  Dammit I wrote a long post about how amazing Luana is to worm and how I don't feel he really gets her, but it was lost. Sorry Lu. Basically though I would say that what you are perceiving as labels and judgments may not necessarily be that. Its Luana's sometimes obtuse and unapologetic way of sharing her perceptions, but I have found her to be amazingly flexible in her perceptions. I have posted on forums with her a long time and most of the time I think she's spot on and appreciate the way she can bring forward such subtle stuff and the way she goes about it usually makes perfect sense to me. I have also seen her take an enormous amount of flack, more than probably anyone else I've ever encountered here, (though I'd consider myself a close 2nd). and somehow bounce back from it. her tanacity in the face of this is nothing short of amazing and I can only conclude it arises from where seh herself says it does, from a desperate desire to help heal the Mother.

                                  (there. that one's even better than the one I lost).

                                  Mikal,

                                  This is all really well said. Can't really hardly add anything to it. Good post, man.

                                  • Thank You Nathan for scurring around trying to repair this damage.....
                                    there are some RUOW heavy weights watching this forum right now.

                                    And You just proved me right....You are Mother's allie

                                    allways were

                                    You were never a problem for Her......cept when You were : )
                                    • Luana Rocks

                                      Tue, August 4, 2009 - 6:54 PM
                                      she is more ruow than anyone could possibly know, i found out because she is my saving grace

                                      stop with the mis-interpretations and try to understand why the daughter abandoned her in original original cause and you may come close to understanding your own predicament

                                      i will fill this in when i get back to the net in a few days

                                      but I don't see anything wrong with any of what I have read here, except for the judgment that Luana is a non-ruower. u are kidding right scott?
                                      • Re: Luana Rocks

                                        Tue, August 4, 2009 - 6:59 PM
                                        uncle frank and i have your denied masculinity by the balls, if you ever want it back it be time to tell it like it is about your own self...leave the feminine out of it for a spell and look at your guy thing, maybe you could merit our attention after we hear something that resonates+
                        • Yeah Scott

                          Both you and I are again told we're Mother hating devils.

                          Yeah were the ones the always get accused for needing to apoligize to Uncle Frank or whoever's part of the Luana 's in crowd network of buddies.

                          I'm looking for the power play in the Will Polarity of her constant ravings. I guess Uncle Franks shit would never stink, coming across lofty as if they shit marble.
                          • Well, the Moon is quite Full, W.L...I feel it cresting like rage and terror too. Stay cool; Will of us does whatever She does, whatever She must
                            more is cresting-the Sun and Earth-pretty cool. Stay cool...Some BEAUtiful cards might be on the table soon. Our uglinesses matched with beauty, having done all we could for a time
                            It's not over! ~~~~
                            • The Moon will be full in the sign of Aquarius. Standby.

                              I've never understoon why you believe a thread you started should only talk about your or the subject you created. This shouts of ego.

                              Try to place nice.

                              You do the same thing yourself...my broken Heart.

                              Try to let go of the ego part and let what Will, Will be.

                              You are loved.


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                                jerking off on phone

                                Wed, August 5, 2009 - 12:17 AM
                                "aD ,thanks for sharing that tidbit, would you like for me to find someway to sexually shame you? "

                                WL,
                                why would you want to shame me?
                                I was kinda of a victim of this boy?
                                aD
                              • "I've never understood why you believe a thread you started should only talk about your or the subject you created. This shouts of ego. " Pink.

                                You're right, Pink.
                                It's just that you just showed up
                                nor recall how open I can be :)

                                It's been strict-feeling for me here recently, that's all-certain processing, being careful (?), and it has called for me to squeeze it a little (I think I only mean Nathan and already that could've moved along)
                                Carry on

                                Good luck getting to know the site now!
                              • Pink

                                I disagree with your comment of letting the this part of the Ego go. Ego has very important place and it is the judgements made against how the ego is seen to be the problem.
                                • For Nathan

                                  Wed, August 5, 2009 - 8:45 AM
                                  Hey Nathan, thanks for understanding. I don't hate anyone here, I am just expressing and working my way through the triggers here. WL can say whatever he wants to, as can you and everyone else here. I'm just rolling with stuff and giving my truest response possible. It's really helping me move through the charge. I hope that we all can shake off the unloving light in our own good time. Whatever you feel about me is ok with me. You too, Scott, and you as well, WL.

                                  I am moving today, finally. Y'all may not hear from me for a few days.

                                  Best wishes, RUoWer's.

                                  Love,
                                  Daisy
                                • If we were to totally let the ego go, we would not be here.

                                  Egotistical people tend to be too wrapped up in their minds and themselves. It's a spiritual endeavour and not what were trying to heal here. Nonetheless, ego has to be and I will work harder with my judgments about it. The very fact that it bothers me when I see it in others, shows a reflection which I need to look into.

                                  I have issues with my ego which has led me into unbelievable rage and fear. It's a fine tightrope we walk as we work our way to balance.

                                  Thanks for telling me you feelings about this subject.
                                  • Re:

                                    Fri, August 7, 2009 - 1:56 PM
                                    Luana wrote here
                                    tribes.tribe.net/lostwillf...48939a189c the following

                                    Yep Thats right Scott....Ya got Mother all trapped up in Her own reflection....
                                    Ya got Her on a technocality here.....
                                    I KNEW YOU WERE GONNA JUMP ON THIS ONE LIKE A DOG ON A BONE.....YOU THINK YOU TRICKED ME.....JUST SO YA KNOW, MOTHER IS MUCH MORE ADDAPTED TO SETTING TRAPS THAN YOU ARE.....
                                    NOW THAT GOD IS ON ....HER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....SIDE

                                    GOD IS GONNA KICK YOUR ASS YOU INFADELIC, SHAMINISTIC, PAGAN, JEW !

                                    (there now go with that one for a while....anything to keep you busy ) """

                                    Mother sets traps? (No)
                                    God takes sides? (No)

                                    If you set yourself up, then deal with it.

                                    God has been kicking my ass my entire life-the gap I mean-
                                    you just do it filthy-style, sloppy-and why at all? You do it against most everyone. I'm here for right reasons so far, so it's OK with Mother. Not you.
                                    You don't belong here and I again suggest the forum be split somehow. Over you. You don't CARE about Mother and I and in that, you're not invited. Love is open so you got homework to do.
                                    I really try to shut up and see your case wordlessly-it's an Option-, but you frig yourself with unlovingness with other people against their will,with your rage-words and meanings and you must stop. You say and mean other stuff but it's still the same pattern as unmoving gap. You hold the gap in place, especially when that gap doesn't mean me. You don't like people getting 'ahead' of you cause you have no Heart there. I'm not intending to keep this space with you open that lets gap hurt people. Your issues need to be more focussed and addressed. You hold up people's healings, you attack in their rest periods, so pay for that and/or get healing. No other way(s).
                                    All this experience and you can't spell a whole LOT of things. Can't relate with MANY yet you keep cliaiming alignment with 'many'.. How much damage is in there, Lu? Why don't you get down to business-besides evil's?

                                    S
  • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

    Fri, August 7, 2009 - 2:15 PM
    at one point scott, you print Annon's attempt to tell Luana to go elsewhere where she resonates with the group

    and then at the end of your post you say this:
    "For her 'allies' here I have more if it goes on. It is a put-down on us all to portend to deal with the real her and yet allow her gap to be dividing us all. I have become more constricted in my trust b/c of this: say, one opens a private tribe who's aligning with Luana-and also won't allow new people or people already here into such private tribe (to stay away from Luanas of the world or to harbor their victim sides). Admit the ignorance involved or it'll be too long a wait."

    it seems you are wanting her out of here, except you do not want her to take the other women that she resonates with to another tribe where you are excluded

    it sounds like you are saying

    get out of here with your mother/grandmother angst and leave us estranged and ungodly men with the daughter?
    • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

      Fri, August 7, 2009 - 3:13 PM
      WHOOOOOOOOOO....ANDORA !

      Once again you hit the nail right on the head.....unbelieveable.....i am speechless.

      How would Mother ever Live, with out you.....You just erased some very deep wrinkels on Her face....

      Thank You

      How can i begin to Thank You?


      ( U, what did i tell You about this One? here is my proof)
      • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

        Fri, August 7, 2009 - 4:02 PM
        honey baby sweety

        HE IS ESSENTIAL
        DO NOT
        I REPEAT
        DO NOT
        THROW THE BABY
        OUT WITH THE BATHWATER

        u no wat i be muttering?
        eh sistah?
        • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

          Fri, August 7, 2009 - 5:40 PM
          No, that's not it at all, Andora. and thanks.
          (Once again, Luana is terribly wrong)

          I haven't a clue who's with or not with Luana-, except Daisy who recently spoke up and who'd made up private tribes JUST FOR the sake of being more safe.. I was totally rebuffed there when Daisy voiced support and when she did, for Luana; shaking up what the heck I'm doing here-I'll get to that.

          What it has to do with Daughters as you say, wow, I wasn't anything to do, thinking like that, I wasn't projecting that..Y'know? Like a big fat judgement about me and Daughters? No, no, no. But it is confusing. I'm just here to 'do business', NO WAY am I here for immature hurting rage, imbalanced rage, ungrounded rage and unevolving rage: all Luana's specialty. So she thinks- and acts.

          Here.s RUoW, here's additional private tribes but they're made with alignments with Luana-one finds out after all. I'm not imagining who would share a separate tribe with Luana (it's rather unimaginable). Maybe it's a little impossible yet I'm sure the space I mean is already around somewhere or just around the corner, even if some of 'me' has to be dropped, if any 'false-greatness' JUST to be apart from her. Maybe it's a leap I need take.

          'Estranged and ungodly' men? Huh? More judgements? What does that have to do with what I'm talking about anyway? Not in real time: judgements and ok: references.. Makes little sense. Makes me ask again 'what do you mean'? Since you've been bringing it up elswhere, I wouldn't be surprised: God spent 'forever' SO alone...and FoM got loneliness a whole 'nother way. But only when we cover this compassionately might it sink in-not with hints of TERRIBLE denial coming out of especially Luana's mouth.. I for one, SURE as heck do not believe a single thing she's saying about it almost..There's NOTHING BUILT THERE-quite the opposite. But you, I can listen to a bit better.

          Put it this way, of course a part of me doesn't want to be at this site at this point. Another day comes, the feeling is still there, different. But it's rather in that sleepwakefulness place...hard to make decisions there

          The whole thing, sigh, is separation that 'she' is causing. It's not what 'I' want exclusively it's general reality. She could cry a million tears later for doing this should it continue..
          I struggle with what I've been putting into this site and measuring whether to risk giving it all up a bit. Others have gone before. For the moment, 'ethics' is winning over me. A bubble of mind and a bubble of emotion are sick and tired of Luana, but a wholesome view wins for now...

          You guys act like you can hardly believe it: rage-woman has no place or time anymore on Earth, that it will get more powerless. Nurse Luana all you want though!


          • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

            Fri, August 7, 2009 - 6:25 PM
            Sorry that came out all mussed up-it's been a mussed up day for me :)
            new to an environment and gap-procedures seeking It out, really
            Bad spirit goes home to Real spirit.

            Straight-following 'the Will' though
            Hmm

            There's a freedom if people want to leave the site, though, and I could take that ride-I don't know-
            If that happens and people want to talk to me, my home page Messages is connected to my email
            Then I have to sign in to Tribe.net to reply.

            Best'
            Scott
            • Scott

              Fri, August 7, 2009 - 6:37 PM
              honey after listening to your take on my words
              i can understand why you are confused
              i wish you could forgive beauty for rejecting you

              i speak volumes about beauty and ugliness
              these are not my edicts
              this predicament you and many conscientious men find yourselves within is a very damned place
              i know you have felt the wanderlust of the daughter taking you in only to abandon you
              and i know you have felt the tender touch of the mother as she tried to console you in this
              i know you want them bothe to unite and meet you

              i beseach you to unite your camp to receive such
              i offered a gift
              to you scott
              and anyone else who wishes to see the wealth that
              I have tended in the darkness

              i am not causal
              but i have created some dire cause
              that i wish to clean up by offering

              i apologize for being remiss in my ability to put up a bleep'in link but i just don't want to do it right now
              i created a new tribe, much to your chagrin (you mentioned this was distracting to the ruow above perhaps)
              called pangasm
              where i posted 6 out of 9 chapters of panGasm for free
              the last 3 chapt. deal with the game, which is not for free
              the principle is described in the first 6 chapters and i wish to extend this to you and all those that desire Scott...it is my heartfelt gift

              contrary to what other's have said, this endeavor is from my heart and constitutes a piece of the puzzle
              my piece
              please
              • Re: Scott

                Fri, August 7, 2009 - 7:42 PM
                Oh!

                Well, thank you, Andora. I'm yet receiving-mode but will keep tuned.
                I trust....I can participate further with you soon.

                So here's the Pangasm-site you mean

                tribes.tribe.net/pangasm

                First load' for me-I'll get to it sometime soon. Thanks-and no, no problem with add-ons to this here that I know or feel.
                Good! Just what I wanted.

                More gift 'somewhere around' would my camp be in order n stuff.(?) Delicious. Just nothing specific yet. Hold on, please-but sure (yes)

                S
                • Re: Scott

                  Fri, August 7, 2009 - 7:52 PM
                  No comment yet on your next, 659 post, Andora.
                  but yang in blue: close.

                  It's going to be hard zeroing in on me right now (except for like, Lu's maybe-flinging asuras) so I prefer light gift exchange, overtly too. Half my training when about working with others is having permission-as with this seeing/soul searching piece you just did-OK? I reel light with you, quite comfortable...let me get something going/house in order and all..I'll let you know.

                  Older near-Hippie-age people...have GREAT gobs to give and all and weird stuff can happen. Pls. just hold on-comfortably,.'be there in a minute'
                  Thanks, sweet!

                  S.
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                Re: Scott

                Fri, August 7, 2009 - 7:57 PM
                Who's demonizing?


                • Re: Scott

                  Fri, August 7, 2009 - 8:36 PM
                  What are you talking about, Nathan?
                  I'd just leave that question be but you added elsewhere

                  "I agree with Luana. I hate to sound like an elitist, I don't think some folks are yet, moving or understanding enough to be here and just disrupting things for those of us who are. I don't mean this as a judgment against him"

                  Nathan and Luana as Jack and Jill

                  Jack and Jill
                  went up to Tribe
                  to taste a bit of Whatever'
                  Jack fell down
                  already down
                  and Jill came screaming hate after!
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                    Re: Scott

                    Fri, August 7, 2009 - 8:56 PM
                    You know this is all a mirror of one, right Nathan?
                    Let's look:

                    who's demonizing? You are (trying to)

                    'I agree with Luana': (alignments in question. Why bother, why risk upon enough risk?)

                    Hate

                    to sound like an elitist (you admit you don't mind it at all)

                    "I don't think some folks are moving..enough...(negative on negative for the thousandth time both of self and others)

                    disrupting (seemingly an absolute, trying to survive in Blue but hey this stuff is for the elite too. In other words, it'd be cool if you were better than conquering and dividing to Communicate here but..)

                    'I don't mean this as a judgement. No, it's a separation ploy. YOU don't wanna really be here. Or, you haven't accepted something or some people here FIRST then make appropriate moves of proper 'separation'.)

                    'him'. Who? You get our brains following your sentence as 'some folks' then quipped that)...You DO appreciate our brains here, right? You're not exhausting them like the children's right? Just for some ungrounded, unfounded sneaky, wrong, trippin' 'expression'? If you won't appreciate the values of Expression and Communication (and help out), then you take what you HAVE created there. War is not helpful, Nathan, duh. Read some books.

                    Need I analyze as such the rest'?

                    S


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            Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

            Fri, August 7, 2009 - 6:29 PM
            I see Luana's rage as having intent to evolve, as seeking life. Scott, I think you are making judgments here, not Andora. I think you are not feeling it at all beyond, "whatever it is I don't like it".

            You need to move Rage, Scott. Quit shoving it back down like its beneath you to feel it, move it or give it expression. Time to break that habit.
            • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

              Fri, August 7, 2009 - 6:59 PM
              I've been holding presence with immasculated masculine polarity Nathan
              I do not wish to demonize it with more judgments either
              for all of the men here that are not able to attract reciprocal attention from a woman that is also attracted to them

              I have understanding for the causal nature of daughter in this rut and wish to stop the battery

              there is little battery reported about the reverse of this hostility that is being directed at the mother
              but, from what i know of scott, after some interaction, is that he is yang in blue - immasculated by blue woman

              if you were to study your behavior scott, with the woman you chose after your ideal woman rejected you....you would have a good place to begin looking for your perpetrator self that you seem to be projecting upon mother/grandmother. In the relationship you created with your second choice you may have squandered the heart you now seem to be supplicating daughter for. just a subjective guess from an indecent bystander!
            • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

              Fri, August 7, 2009 - 11:52 PM
              That's 2 posts today, only by Nathan, that I missed til now-something to do with page-loadings and Tribe-signouts? Not sure: very suspect, weird and interesting.
              Nathan you are twice removed from looking at me using these 'references' including any healing talk. Deal with it. Have to talk normal.

              I can't believe he talked to Semele they way he did today!
              Mon Dieu!
              • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                Fri, August 7, 2009 - 11:59 PM
                Then I posted to link just after his post:

                "I see Luana's rage as having intent to evolve, as seeking life. Scott, I think you are making judgments here, not Andora. I think you are not feeling it at all beyond, "whatever it is I don't like it".

                You need to move Rage, Scott. Quit shoving it back down like its beneath you to feel it, move it or give it expression. Time to break that habit."

                But the post 'arrives' at top!-the one just below here, of mine.

                Here's the assinnine post the creep did of Semele, whose innocence shines and Nathan has no excuse, no reason:

                "Power-hungry Heart Daughter can't actually handle the power she wrongfully took so now she wants to pass it off on someone else.... like it were a baton passing game.

                Anyone, but the person who actually CAN handle it, because her denied rage can't stand to let someone else be empowered to have what's rightfully theirs, nor to acknowledge them as having the ability to handle it, lest she feel not in control or less than in some way. "

                The moderation is rightfully his?!?!?? Has the ability to handle it?!?!??! Plus only looking negatively at people, as if he never read the stuff between God and the ejaculation Spirits., spirits of denial...What a terrible psychology to try and use. Guess he don't mind being gone as they are. WAY too desperate to be a peer here yet. To think HE could moderate.

                Wow. 'Gone'.
                • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                  Sat, August 8, 2009 - 12:18 AM
                  That's the New Moderator thread
                  tribes.tribe.net/lostwillf...cbdf7bd86f

                  so watch out for when this guy 'uses' all this looking-negatively when he has some positive turnaround-maybe even years from now (if we have 'em). Healing is now. Presence is now-right presence. Etc. Maybe all we can do IS a frag party.

                  Semele is going through something UTTERLY NORMAL; has shared it with us: enough said-and thank yous for holding space or whatever a month or two, let's trust a good selection is next. I don't see anyone at all, so NoModerator comes to mind). This guy jumps all over her??!!?!

                  awful trash
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                    Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                    Mon, August 10, 2009 - 2:19 PM
                    MORE! Luana: "I sooo agree with you Andora....I TRY real hard to understand Scott's word soupe ....i think he is a luciferian creep bent on punishing Mother by means of baffeling Her with bullshit.....His presents here is DEFFINATELY counter productive to Mother's process....

                    I think we need to send lucifer a message and kick scotts rambeling, incohearant, drug addicted, alcohol induced ,ASS, off this tribe.and all the other bozzos who agree with him, in a secret agenda to egg him on to stop Mother's expression.

                    Maybe you could do like i do and just ignore his assults upon Mother's terrified Heart....i dont even attempt to make sence of his hidden inuendos, and, the worse thing is if you say something about what he is doing to Mothers....it only fuels and inspires him to do more damage....i think he is masterbateing on getting domed by all of us.....this guy is one sick ass creep who has plagued all of the ruow sites on the net"

                    from the Blue Woman Speaks thread. Andora said NOTHING to me of this ilk. It is so twisted to be threaded into the rest of her rage-trip that it's gappingly misunderstanding real me to of course, being evil. Again, non-RUoW at work; not enough process.

                    Nathan adds, "Luana,

                    ".His presents here is DEFFINATELY counter productive to Mother's process....

                    I think we need to send lucifer a message and kick scotts rambeling, incohearant, drug addicted, alcohol induced ,ASS, off this tribe.and all the other bozzos who agree with him, in a secret agenda to egg him on to stop Mother's expression."

                    I second that emotion enthusiastically.

                    I think there is much here that is counter-productive, way too much and Scott's presence is a major contributor. In my view he has become a like thug/hit-man for the gap of heartlessness and denied rage wishing to take the Will out of commission and stop her progress towards healing. I tried to stop him from doing that by kicking him off when I was moderator, but then decided I wanted to give him a second chance and include him. Big mistake, and subsequent experience has shown me that my initial impulse towards action here was right. But mainly guilt/fear, self-hatred, and self-doubt, etc., caused me to err in this way, and this is one of the things that led majorly to my downfall.

                    If you would support my return to the moderator position, I would gladly carry this out. I am as tired of Scott's shennanigans as you are. I don't feel Scott is like unhealable or anything any more so than me. he is just at a different phase of his evolution and I am sure his rage can turn around towards love, but my understanding is that enabling him to hold back the process of others here is not helping him to do that."




                    also lost in rage predicaments of misunderstanding what's actually going on, in real time, due to buried judgements etc of his own...to wit, he was doing a bad job of moderating. He was continually negative at esp. women and neither of these facts are being admitted. It is mainstream to zoom over these to rage. And worse, associate the real me with being evil, or bad for this group. It is quite complete deriving (rage) from plain subjects he's gone past both in self and this group. 'Nothing to do with me' all the more now, whatever rage deems to be or do about it. He won't be understanding this in any short time. It is not RUoW, it is rage being stuck but blasting out and making messes au mainstream. Equal with the gap. 'Safer' like that? Still, not RUoW if so (safer) for you.
                    • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                      Mon, August 10, 2009 - 3:58 PM
                      Now, 3 of you guys are clamoring Mother-this and Mother-that as aGAINST me...Firstly, Mother isn't like that. Secondly, why aren't you
                      just mothering and?:
                      if to include an internet tribe like this?
                      Thirdly
                      Why are you splitting and dividing as also against me?
                      Because I suggested it about Luana? O well! Things moved on and now we're-I am- somewhere else.
                      Fourth, where is representing balance, ie what are my qualities here FOR Mother?
                      Why don't you just
                      speak Mother?
                      You apparently are speaking unhealed blueness and worse. (Well, little is worse for the state of the world).
                      So yea, better (to) come clean with such argument.
                      S
                      • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                        Mon, August 10, 2009 - 5:59 PM
                        Scott, Mother has more denials than anyone else because she created everyone else and their denials as well as her own.

                        I don't see everyone clamoring against you. Just a few for whom you give a reflection they don't want to see. They could be thanking you for giving the reflection.

                        You are everything to Mother...fragmented broken Heart.

                        No one can heal without you.
                        • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                          Mon, August 10, 2009 - 6:28 PM
                          Thank God Mother is MORE than everyone else (more than the gap)

                          ..'..sourced (created) the denials...God (and Body) were putting into her
                          so she's definitely 'more'...yet STILL not all that is/are denial. More like a blooming renewing Earth-Realm...?
                          but your point-feeling being...easy does it (perhaps)

                          Hiya Pink!
                          thanks

                          :)
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                          Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                          Mon, August 10, 2009 - 6:47 PM
                          Pink,

                          I think this is nonsense. Scott is not giving a "reflection" he is giving mostly ungrounded sophistires laced with denied rage. He has also engaged in total charlatanism twice trying to take credit for felt perceptions which I shared acting as though he arrived at them on his own, meanwhile he judges the fuck out of me as having basically nothing to offer to this tribe. This "reflection you don't want to see" stuff is pure bull. I shouldn't have to put up with this heartless shit, especially from someone I fed and housed for two weeks and even loaned money to and helped him on his way like I did for Scott here.

                          Do you have any idea how it feels to have someone take credit for your perceptions and feelings and then basically call you crazy, call you a demon, bully and batter you with denied rage, beat you down with total heartlessness and then gloat about it openly in front of you? Someone you DID treat as a friend and a brother no less?

                          Why don't you explain to me what it is I am supposed to "see" from that? Explain to me how it helps me to heal to be stabbed in the back by someone who is arrogantly trying to one-up me and completely trashing the friendship we had for some kind of petty power gain he thinks its going to give him..,

                          With all due respect, I think you have it backwards and I think you are protecting Scott here from the reflection he needs to see of his own harshness, heartlessness and cruelty. I think you're doing this to appear more loving by showing you have "acceptance" for shit other people don't.

                          Also I think whatever piece of the puzzle Scott has, I can get on my own from my own Spirit if I move long enough. I don't agree that I need him to heal.
                          • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                            Mon, August 10, 2009 - 7:09 PM
                            Nathan, Oh goody, a taunt. Been waiting for this.

                            So, you're pissed off that Scott stayed with you and you got nothing...cry me a fucking river.

                            Take that huge-ass chip off your shoulder, it must be getting mighty heavy by now. You've not changed one bit from GodChannel forum...so much for moving...judgments aside.

                            Scott is getting the same stuff here he has always received...and so are you. How very interesting.

                            I AM DENIED RAGE and quite proud to be healing it.

                            Oh, BTW, "sophistieres" is not a word.

                            Bring it on big boy...I love it! But, be prepared.
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                              Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                              Mon, August 10, 2009 - 7:18 PM
                              Pink,

                              I think you're totally misreading me here. I am not looking for a fight. If that's what you've been waiting for look elsewhere. I was expressing my heartbreak and pain to you.... I guess hoping for compassion, but apparently you missed that or don't care judging by your sarcastic tone....

                              I really don't care whether you accept my perceptionual hunches of you/your patterns or not. Take them or leave them. I certainly don't want to fight about it.... All of this is fuckign incredibly painful to me. I am exhausted and the last thing I have energy for is a fight. Maybe Luana would oblige you...

                              i was going to add this to my post but couldn't because you posted yours first... but I guess it will just sound liek more 'poor me" to you and you'll hate it. so be it.


                              "As a matter of fact, I am open to the possibility that I don't need any of you to heal. All of y'all treat me like shit, don't help, and you're mostly all just stuck in blaming denied rage for all the problems as though you have no responsibility of your own at all to help with healing it and wasting time projecting it onto me, and whoever the fuck you can instead of getting down to fucking business, and I'm getting sick of it. I am heartbroken over this, but at this point, its getting to be not worth it to me anymore to even try with any of you. "
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                              Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                              Mon, August 10, 2009 - 7:44 PM
                              "You've not changed one bit from GodChannel forum...so much for moving...judgments aside. "

                              I have to say this feels like a pretty mean-spirited and hurtful thing to say in the way I feel you mean it. Where is that coming from?

                              I certainly feel a great difference in myself from way back then, and I've been through more than I could even impart to you. I guess just cause you're not attuned enough to me to feel any difference you assume there isn't one.... Or maybe you fear this about yourself. btw, sophistries is plural of sophistry which is a word.
                          • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                            Mon, August 10, 2009 - 7:45 PM
                            Pink's right in your not holding back just enough to gather in what's going on here, Nathan. It's VERY evident in the mistakes you're making-and they go back-nothing to do with our visit btw-but since I've been here. There are those mistakes, now add the ones being made since: they're going on and on. I'm not going to trace them all for you.
                            It's not 'denied rage', it's live rage you've 'triggered' of me, why not talk that?

                            So, you take your surmises-surmises you could use in other directions but your not stepping back meets with rages in general-and so this makes you use phrases like they mean anything. They don't, fully at all, like 'stabbed in the back, etc etc.
                            I sure as heck got mad but you're not admitting your roles all the wayu through there, the things you said with YOUR 'live rages'...what do some of them mean, hmm? If I don't take them so personally, I can see what they mean and so do and have others. You don't go there one bit. So how can you judge what I or others have been doing without checking your own participations back there (when you wer ebeing addressed and ousted of, moderation?)

                            You know what you'll find if you do your part? You won't transfer so much insanity and blaming rage, for one.

                            The point is, you did enflame me after awhile, once you started retorting immaturely, saying YOUR horrible, mean stuff. I could only ride it out. Then you'd add after that, curses against the shaman and shamanism and ANYone knows you're losing it then. You're STILL losing it.
                            You become less and less yoiurself-aren't you noticing? The words you are using certainly are showing this to me, at least.

                            My stuff here IS grounded (I keep saying it) in that your pattern of treating people with negativity is overly sure a phenomenon. It must be that you're 'son'-and you'll learn very well that there'll be no leadership positions that way. That's the truth before any of me getting 'triggered'. Triggered is when you really hit me, or so, with whatever any call it (rage). You direct it instead of calmly handling situations. You've been shown and reminded this over and over almost by everyone here.

                            You're so completely ensconced in your

                            POINT OF VIEW.
                            WHAT DO THE BOOKS INDICATE ABOUT POV?!!!

                            Whereas I was showing Non-attachment for example. How that matches with trigger or not is too confusing for now-point is, Principle of Life, Nathan-aGAIN...you just will not treate women/Will that way across a board let alone this one. It's in the NAME.

                            ALL those feelings you mean all have to be settled before especially, you, write (here). Come on, it's obvious. Or learn some more a hard way?

                            Where's your universality here? Like no one has gone through this-what YOU are experiencing- before for years or lifetimes etc etc??? Your space is so close...some women can't stay! Any women left here, you 'hit em'!

                            That's your shit, scrawl over my way all you want...you'll have to be 'nice', whatever.

                            Pink's trembling, you'll be alright now, Nathan, huh?
                            Get the LIFE!! Get the REAL messages and feels of the books 'again' or something...homework piles up (meaning bug off a little huh-til you treat me right? O, no go there)

                            Yea, ride out the 'Luana support', see where it gets you. I still have rage-I told you, anyone would know these things YOU don't have to re-say things and repeat things none of which clears that you're universal, btw-, YOU have no business 'seeing into me' anymore. Or learn a hard way?

                            charlatan'? and other stuff...not on any mark: ungrounded, drawn from denial points even of the books; when do you clear all this? Bathroom's over there.
                            S



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                              Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                              Mon, August 10, 2009 - 7:49 PM
                              Scott:

                              I'm not reading your shit. I only have to read a couple sentences in to see you're just pounding the same shit over and over again, which is in YOURSELF, and I'm not going to take it on for you. Can't. Its not mine to take.... and i *can* help myself!

                            • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                              Mon, August 10, 2009 - 8:00 PM
                              Your exhaustion will either pass or (you) process (it). Nathan

                              You mention 'brother' and all. I was deLIGHTed you were in a band and maybe even had this cool girl who was teaching stuff her own way, whatever.
                              Don't worry about this, us, living your life...(we support you any way possible-any real brothers and sisters do this)...release...is a part of All Things-just not the releasing some others have long told us-either 'you know' or come on-it's being demanded-maybe even MORE force comes due to the material. But none should be rage-directed after awhile as a retort and all, from one.

                              You've used this medium and group for it but what really, can it do? We'll discuss perhaps.

                              Back to life (is the only way) in ANY meanwhile. 'We' must build trust, how else?

                              S
                              • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                                Mon, August 10, 2009 - 8:10 PM
                                Nathan: "Scott:

                                I'm not reading your shit. I only have to read a couple sentences in to see you're just pounding the same shit over and over again, which is in YOURSELF, and I'm not going to take it on for you. Can't. Its not mine to take.... and i *can* help myself!:"

                                (So, what are you doing HEre? -hmm?-)
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                                  Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                                  Mon, August 10, 2009 - 8:23 PM
                                  What the hell do you mean what am I doing here? The question doesn't even make sense. Of course its just another bullshit ploy to trip me up and hold the space open for yourself to manifest your unmoving gap here on top of me.

                                  All of this was so unnecessary, Scott. You CHOSE this.

                                  So now go ahead and write another thousand word essay of denied rage pounding for me to not read and then see how impotent you feel.
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                                    Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                                    Mon, August 10, 2009 - 8:34 PM
                                    yeah, well its nice to know you at least accord me some bare recognition of humanity, but you are still judging me, projecting on me, being cruel and heartless. whatever you're talking about and keep pounding about you don't understand what you are seeing Scott. that's clear to me and i also have some inkling of WHY you see it the way you do.., why you're judging me. its a heartless squaring off and positioning tack you took. you really think you understand what you're seeing, but its not actually founded in any feelings unless you count the denied rage that is powering your judgmental point of view regardging me and my participation here.
                                • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                                  Mon, August 10, 2009 - 8:31 PM
                                  So, which is it, N., you know yourself from a demon or you're complaining?

                                  When that all started, you didn't respond to nearly half of it, obviously banking on your POV to carry you through
                                  after all, you're YOUNG. A hell of a conversation indeed, all about demons and fresh info and light from me alone backing up what I said as I still do.
                                  And no, I'm not alone right here in that and I need no agreements with the personages.

                                  but only POV from you ALL the way along
                                  'of course you're exhausted'

                                  so, ya think...shitting in my thread will 'warm you up' to seeing the Light, hmm? Get that dump out of the way, aye?
                                  and dump, and dump, and dump (nevermind the content or meaning-like praying better as one Eats, A hard thing to learn in America, at least. Bad times and how is it you're fitting right in again? What was it, the Election Night, yes?)

                                  A year goes by, dumpings et al

                                  Mother differentiates what is needed, don't worry about it-give her more ease, won't you?
                                  Maybe you're too young
                                  well, enjoy the ass if ya gotta dump so bad elsewheres? Make sense? Young doing that? Maybe you're just alien...

                                  which is it-you need me to finish this out or are you misunderstanding too much for a session/time-and at what expense?

                                  S


                                  • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                                    Mon, August 10, 2009 - 8:49 PM
                                    I chose WHAT, Nathan? Making a move of your negativity on women-so obvious-and where others could agree about, you mean?
                                    Or do you mean the various 'conversations' we had since?

                                    Manifest my gap on you?!
                                    Nope that's not it
                                    Keep 'guessing'

                                    you: "but you are still judging me,"
                                    And what if I'm not (back it up)?
                                    I just 'love' you add-ons: "its a heartless squaring off...positioning..not actually founded in any feelings....unless you count the denied rage that is powering your judgmental point of view "

                                    you're so astute in a myopic bookworm kind-of-way but you forgot ALL about the mirror-differentiation...It's like what's different between you and I...to what's my thread and what's yours...which you are trying to hustle your pov way through. O, could I support it after a point...It's impossible as is, so enjoy the ramifications!

                                    Where it's heartles, look at the person's heart.
                                    There is no positioning.
                                    Feelings you comment on MY feelings? again..MUahahahah

                                    if you go against a person's will enough Nathan, you smell so good there, demonically-naturally calling it (my) denial again (denied rage). It's no POV on my part b/c it's simple activities I'm talking about on the forum here!
                                    And just using words-I suppose you mean is 'judgemental' too but I'd guess you're over your head there-no universal languages do I hear from you, for example.

                                    but a dog's heat, smelling for denials...yea, 'give that to ya'...
                                    • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                                      Mon, August 10, 2009 - 8:57 PM
                                      (Anybody know what the PISS Luana means by 'jew' anyway?!)
                                      something to do with Children perhaps as she cannot go past being One?
                                      y'know, Godchannel where one has ALL the Parts?
                                      These guys just keep forgetting about that, I think their intent needs some work
                                      I think they need stop being immature and begin discussing stuff
                                      I think they're glued onto me b/c I'm pretty cool
                                      and non-attached somehow too
                                      beyond their scope? But I GAVE all the corresponding links and stuff-how could they lose (to raging so bad) with RUoW all the way through
                                      ????
                                      'Congrats'
                                      • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                                        Mon, August 10, 2009 - 8:59 PM
                                        Nathan:
                                        "well glad if I'm providing you with some 'entertainment' luana, or should i say "dementertainment" :)

                                        i'd much rather be getting some real work done though.

                                        but anyhow all the same thanks for your support of my voice and truth, i know it is sincere and it means a lot....."

                                        Ah, just the stuff this thread is about: overt denial with Luana (me exposing it too)
                    • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                      Mon, August 10, 2009 - 5:38 PM
                      Thank You once again scott for yet another jumbled mess...
                      I just cant undersatnd what you are saying?
                      • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                        Mon, August 10, 2009 - 5:49 PM
                        Why not?
                        You read the books, right? You should be able to understand ANYthing

                        (I got more of my stuff in stash)

                        O I know, it's your way of 'relating'
                        shhhaw
                        what a jumble that is-your relating
                        and the books
                        and the internet
                        and other readers
                        say, someone made a thread about it, you've been bad enough
                        • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                          Mon, August 10, 2009 - 8:42 PM
                          Nathan, You are compleetly right in Your responses to both Pink and Scott

                          You just are !!!

                          Nathan, there are MANY more of Us who feel ya

                          Pink, I see You are feeling better....
                          Pink alot has gone on sence last You touched in....
                          for one thing Scott has flipped His lid and Nathan has screw on His own head

                          I dont know ANY man, in the ruow process as right on and evolved with this as Nathan is

                          Dont listen to the lies and deciets of this stupid jew, scott, He is a perma fry.....He calls himself a shaman, for fuck sake !
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                            Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                            Mon, August 10, 2009 - 8:53 PM
                            well glad if I'm providing you with some 'entertainment' luana, or should i say "dementertainment" :)

                            i'd much rather be getting some real work done though.

                            but anyhow all the same thanks for your support of my voice and truth, i know it is sincere and it means a lot.....

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                              Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                              Mon, August 10, 2009 - 9:02 PM
                              "it's simple activities I'm talking about on the forum here!"

                              Its sooo simple Scott. you don't understand what you're seeing and the way you see it is dicated by your judgments. You can lock onto such "simple activities" like grim death and also hold out a LOT of other information whcih you *have* with your judgments. You are so frozen in your view of those 'activities' because your seeing of them is judgmentally skewed, and you don't really get the level I'm working on here. you are holding out a great deal of information and you don't understand what I'm doing, but you don't notice what doesn't fit your description. you just think you have me pegged and in fact, you want to peg me, you set OUT to do so for the heartless reasons I have mentioned here and mentioned right off the bat. I can point to all kinds of inconsistencies in you and back it up plenty, but it would do no good. you simply slap them away, slap explanations on them to explain why they're irrelevant. there is literally no talking to you, Scott.
                              • Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                                Mon, August 10, 2009 - 9:18 PM
                                So much for dedicated and natural listening to you then, Nathan.
                                did my thing
                                Again: 'judgements'...How can you know or see there's judgements here by me when they're not in real time? You're bandying the word-meaning over-lightly and getting away with it until MOST people are releasing judgements. THEN you'd find your way here and not get 'lost' here.
                                I'm standing Nathan, it's called Standing-principles of life are abused and whether there's a fault or two OTHERWISE with me has to wait. Dog.
                                So...there's the actual events and now you say only your level has the understanding-so why aren't you giving peace? What it really is is separation, superiority and all this on your part.
                                And you STILL don't have my permissions for going here. What 'moves you' is my own quips which you don't see as 'natural' b/c blood is in your eyes instead. Bad blood I mean.
                                It's YOUR heartlessness that's the first issue-which doesn't make YOU first at all. THEN we might call me or my own. But you're not even close. You're leeching off of my abilities-one sign is that you're still in my thread as a little unacceptable.
                                I don't CARE about any pegging you any further. Didn't I do enough? You can't live it down!
                                No, you CAN'T continue pointing out inconsistencies-you already 'know' it's no good, duh. 'Explanations on why they're irrelevant'-well, so much for your 'level of understanding' then.
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                                Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                                Mon, August 10, 2009 - 9:20 PM
                                Scott,

                                All of what you are fastening on to and using to prop up your case with here is purely based on your interpretations, but it is mental, unfounded in any real understanding and therefore judgmental by its very nature and is being fed to you by denied rage which you are apparently not even conscious of having.

                                You are just judging here more my exchange with Luana. I don't think you understand what you're seeing. If you did, you'd know and appreciate what tremendous compassion, love, bravery it takes for me to even be talking to you after the hell I've (thanklessly) gone through on your behalf. Probably partly some karmic debt, or simply some judgment of my own of deserving the punishment I've taken from you, but I'm done with that now. you're on your own.
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                                  Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                                  Mon, August 10, 2009 - 9:27 PM
                                  re; why aren't you giving peace?

                                  for 'peace' to be real Heart needs to be born in the gap, Scott. That is something you don't understand and you need to follow MY lead on that which you have a problem with and that is where you have judged me. I know it because I can fucking FEEL it.

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                                    Re: Luana the non-RUoW-online person

                                    Mon, August 10, 2009 - 9:39 PM
                                    It doesn't matter if its not in real time, Scott. I know you and I can feel you anyway/feel your energy. When I read your posts, if i want to I can hear your voice in my head saying the things you write exactly as you would actually say them as clearly as if you were sitting next to me, and I can feel the feeling tone of it. Often this feels REALLY horrible. More often than not, in fact.