Check out this blog. It’s got some interesting strategies and thoughts about investing.
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Re: Investment Strategies
Mon, March 31, 2008 - 10:00 PMI disagree. I believe that the article should have been titled "One Way To Gamble In The Stock Market".
In my world, "Investing" implies that your principal is guaranteed to be returned. If there is no guaranty, then it isn't investing, it's gambling. -
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Re: Investment Strategies
Tue, April 1, 2008 - 5:21 PMinvesting - noun - the act of investing; laying out money or capital in an enterprise with the expectation of profit
With the word "expectation" that would indicate to me that there is some "risk" involved and that there is no guarantee of a return. While the goal is to minimize risk in an investment... if someone guarantees you a return I would question it... even certain investments such as mutual funds and so forth - they all will indicate that there is some risk to investing. So yes, investing is literally a form of legal gambling if you want to use your terms. As my grandfather used to say - there are only two guarantees in this world - taxes and death! -
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Re: Investment Strategies
Wed, April 2, 2008 - 1:32 PMYah I was kind of hoping Kurt would talk a bit about the guarantee thing.
Is he into AAA bonds? Real estate?
I like dollar cost averaging and I like the long hold.
I also purchase debt that's been written off and collect it. There is gold in them that hills.
And dam-it-all if things don't look like the market is turning around these days. -
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Re: Investment Strategies
Wed, April 2, 2008 - 7:49 PMNow this is a good conversation!
I personally think half the time we talk ourselves into recession.. Psychologically induced hysteria. -
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Re: Investment Strategies
Thu, April 3, 2008 - 6:51 AMWell the market was over heated and in need of a correction.
The Cholesterol drug problem that just cropped up will hurt the Pharma biz. I think it was just people being pissed at how information came out and not the actual information.
But not to worry the atomic Collider in Switzerland is going to make a black hole that will swallow the earth.
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Re: Investment Strategies
Thu, April 3, 2008 - 6:02 PMWhen we lend, we require collateral.
In the past, some of the investment positions we have taken have come with performance guarantees, which allowed us to sell our position back if our expectations were not met or exceeded.
Rather than just buying stock, I buy the appropriate stock, and then sell covered call options. This gains income even if the stock price declines.
We can sometimes tell that an enterprise will fail should something catastrophic happen to key personnel, so for some of the investments we've made, we've required that the enterprise obtain "Key Man Life Insurance" for certain principals as a condition of our investing.
If there is a risk in a deal, there usually is a way to hedge that risk.
In addition to investing I also gamble, but I don't delude myself into thinking that one is the other.
As an Investor, the first thing I look at is the ROC ("Return Of Capital"). If a deal passes that test, the next thing I look at is the ROI ("Return On Investment"), which is generally a measure of relative efficiency. -
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Re: Investment Strategies
Sun, April 6, 2008 - 9:23 AM*********** When we lend, we require collateral.*************
Durn tootin. The only down side is that this limits the pool of potential clients. I tell my business clients to get collateral and they blow me off because they can't compete if the try.
I think that most people see themselves and pretty much doing what you described trying to be spread widely enough that cyclicals and industry trends don't undermine them.
I haven't played the game of shorting or buying puts. It's a tad sophisticated for me. I like to use dollar cost averaging and when things turn ugly I sell on the little high blips that volatility creates.
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