reBirth 5.0

topic posted Mon, March 10, 2008 - 2:12 PM by  Unsubscribed
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Well, folks, it sounds like maybe MLA 5.0 is on the horizon... and if it ends up with the new features and tools that I think Admin's planning, I will retire from tribe and make my home again at the MLA.

Crossing fingers!
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  • Re: reBirth 5.0

    Mon, March 10, 2008 - 3:27 PM
    I always suspected you were the hidden head of the MLA Mindy.
    So this tribe might just work out as a TAZ for the MLA fugitives.
    Please enlighten us mortals, when is the quintessential MLA due?
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    Re: reBirth 5.0

    Mon, March 10, 2008 - 3:35 PM
    Min, with your departure from tribe, who shall moderate?

    <stares forlornly at rows of abandoned bleachers>

    Where shall we go, what shall we do?
  • Re: reBirth 5.0

    Mon, March 10, 2008 - 8:42 PM
    That's good news! Keep us posted, as I haven't been at the MLA forum since the technical troubles.
  • Re: reBirth 5.0

    Mon, March 10, 2008 - 8:50 PM
    I don't think Admin and the secret Cabal can promise 'no more technical problems', maybe just different ones. :)

    No start date for 5.0 just yet...
    • Re: reBirth 5.0

      Wed, March 19, 2008 - 1:39 AM
      > maybe just different ones. :)

      That's one of the things lacking in the digital realm

      Old (analog) tech used to just get quirky when it was breaking down (think prepared piano, old cars that only start for their owner), new tech seems to just die (or ask for more money)

      Time for an analog webserver, a la Pratchett's Hex?
      • Re: reBirth 5.0

        Wed, March 19, 2008 - 2:04 PM
        Analog webserver… wow

        I just visualized the torture machine in "the penal colony" by Kafka. Together with disturbing images from "the pillow book" by Greenaway.
        Writing in-for-ma-tion on our skins. On different levels of understanding…

        On a less sadistic note, maybe we're all nodes in the analog internet, connecting to each other and writing in ourselves (in DNA-shorthand) through the morphogenetic fields - forever.

        Please pray tell, what's Pratchett's hex? (forgive my limited knowledge of discworld)
      • Re: reBirth 5.0

        Wed, March 19, 2008 - 7:19 PM
        I just read a book (Souls in the Great Machine) about a post-apocalyptic Australia where folks who could count and such were kidnapped and forced to work as components in a Calculor made of people.

        Oh. It also had dueling female librarian war-chiefs and dolphin subterfuge.
        • Re: reBirth 5.0

          Thu, March 20, 2008 - 1:44 AM
          Hi Borsky - as ever Wikipedia will tell you more than you probably want to know about Hex.

          en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hex_(Discworld)

          Hex has its origins in a device that briefly appeared in Soul Music, created by Ponder Stibbons and some student Wizards in the High Energy Magic building. In this form it was simply a complex network of glass tubes, containing ants. The wizards could then use punch cards to control which tubes the ants could crawl through, enabling it to perform simple mathematical functions.

          By the time of the novel, Interesting Times, Hex had become a lot more complex, and was constantly reinventing itself. Part of it is now clockwork, which interfaces with the ant-farm via a paternoster the ants can ride on that turns a significant cogwheel. Its main purposes were to analyse spells, to see if there were simpler "meta-spells" underlying them, and to help Stibbons with his study of "invisible writings", by running the spells used to bring the writings into existence (these spells must be cast rapidly, and each one can only be used once before the universe notices they shouldn't work). In other words, data compression and information retrieval.

          In Hogfather Hex contained several things that nobody remembered installing, and was asking about electricity. It was at around this time that the wizards become concerned that it may be trying to become something they didn't understand.

          By The Science of Discworld Hex was capable of "once and future computing"; increasing its abilities simply by deducing that the required processing power would exist eventually. Presumably this requires a high expenditure of magic, as it has not been mentioned again (at the time, there was a massive excess of magic available due to a near catastrophic overload of the university's experimental thaumic reactor). This virtual memory appeared as translucent silver towers superimposed onto the real Hex. Hex was sufficiently intelligent by this time not to tell the wizards what it was doing, in case it worried them.


    • Re: reBirth 5.0

      Fri, March 21, 2008 - 1:52 PM
      No technical problems?? pshaw I say! It wont feel like 'home' until it's blown up twice! :D
      • Re: reBirth 5.0

        Thu, May 8, 2008 - 4:44 PM
        Well, you won't be disappointed Matthias (I'll call you that to distinguish you from the Chris who I otherwise know as el8ed1) as the version 5.0 has gone up, and the forum part of it seems to load as slowly as before, at the moment. :-(

        Either they should archive/delete a whole load of old stuff, or get a faster server or something (sigh).

        Having said that, I like the look, the concept, the dream.

        Worth a visit, at least, just to see Bob among the philosophers in the header. :-)
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          Re: reBirth 5.0

          Thu, May 8, 2008 - 10:47 PM
          I keep trying to read and post over there but it just refuses to load.

          I gained so much from those years at the MLA but a part of me keeps saying that those days are behind me and it feels like this latest upgrade just reinforces that. My Mind's just not interested in words these days either. I start writing only to find it impossible to squeeze recent experiences and thoughts into english.

          Anyway, hi to all my favorite people on the planet!

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