Need suggestions for crystal of protection

topic posted Tue, April 15, 2008 - 5:42 AM by  Wind
There is this guy at work, when he is around, I feel very shaky. This is an extremely unusual reaction - I have never had it to a person before, only to really bad situations. The other women I work with also feel really uncomfortable around him. When I described the way he acts to my boyfriend, bf said this guy was acting like he had to be top dog. But our bad feelings go beyond what would make sense for irritation/frustration of dealing with a top dog kind of guy in a place where teamwork goes smoother than hierarchy. One of the othe women said he feels "dirty" to her. We have all been observing him carefully, in case he is doing something really wrong, or truly harmful to our clients (residents in a group home). So far he has done nothing really dangerous that we can see.

I have dealt with the shaky feeling by strengthening my personal shields, and by carrying 6 or 7 crystals on me when I know he is going to be around (I usually have 2-4 in my pockets at any given time). We have a new supervisor, who is also a woman. Last week I gave her a hematite worry stone, because it called out to me to do that. Yesterday, she asked me to find her a crystal or stone that would strengthen her against this guy, as well.

Since I can't put my finger on what is not right about this guy, and I have never studied crystals with an eye to protecting against a specific person before, does anyone here have any suggestions?
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Wind
Minnesota
  • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

    Tue, April 15, 2008 - 10:48 AM
    so sorry about the problems.

    lots of things you can do for protection.

    prayer is extremely..and potentially, infinitely, powerful.

    human beings have no power to stop our guardian angels, should they decide to intercede.

    I knew someone having horrible problems with the boss and went deeply into prayer about it. Next day the boss came at him, ready to yell, looked at him and then just "changed his mind." I think the boss subconsciously felt the light on the person's forehead and that light just chased the darkness inside the guy away.

    Lots of guys are aggressive. That can make folks very uncomfortable. Sometimes the best way around that is not to try to "defeat it," but serve the guy someway...kill the hostility with kindness.

    You know, just buy some donuts and coffee for the gang...something that guy will like. You take some big aggressive guy and bring in some kind of great homemade fudge...and that monster could turn into a puppy overnight.

    Guys also like jokes. That is a great way to disarm an aggressive person. If you make a person laugh, it them becomes very hard for them to treat you poorly.

    But don't expect anything in return. If he is aggressive..then he is probably very insecure and also profoundly superficial. People like that really only think about themselves. Everyone else is just an object to them. So, probably best to outwardly placate them and then avoid them as much as possible.

    As far as feeling shaky goes...there could be a simple explanation. If you do meet someone who is profoundly fearless...it can make you nervous. I have had that happen. There are certain folks like that...I've met professional stunt men, for example. They weren't bad people, but something in their demeanor made me nervous. I think it was there complete lack of fear. It was unnerving somehow. So that is one possible thing.

    I mean, if you guys think this guy is actually doing something illegal...then, you know report it or whatever. But unless you have some kind of real evidence that that is going on...I would just ignore that whole angle. Trying to figure out what is going on in other people's head is just a big dive into the abyss.

    Really, I wouldn't worry about the thing so much. Just bring in some great pastry for the guy and tell him a few jokes...and kill the problem with kindness. I think that works most of the time.

    I mean, you know, he is a guy. We are a pretty stupid lot generally...you can't expect too much from us!!!

    I was hanging around a bunch of guys once...and mind you, we are all friends. We starting talking about sports, then we starting talking about our own background in sports, what we did and etc...next thing you know, it is a verbal competition about who is better and in about another ten seconds we would have been throwing punches. Then, (we were at work) a gal walked into the room and said something like, "men are just crazy." We all looked at each other, realized she was right and calmed down... like I said, we are all pretty nuts.

    peace

    Jon
    • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

      Tue, April 15, 2008 - 8:51 PM
      Jon, thank you for your insights. I have not worked up to being comfortable enough to let my humor out around this guy much. I'm going to have to work up to that. I have found that I can sometimes really warm up to people I don't like (and get them on my side) if I talk up any positive aspect of them - sincere compliments, praise and thanks. It's a common ground to work from. I can start there.
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    Tue, April 15, 2008 - 11:25 AM
    that is some really good advice :) kindness can go very far. i do have a sense that this person is unpredictable, and i am wondering if a background check is done at your workplace on employee's before they are hired. intuition is a strong thing, and if more than one person is picking up on this energy, that is a sure red flag. predatory type of people look for positions like that where they are caring for elders or children. i would pry a little deeper into his background if that is at all possible.....just think if down the road, you heard he did cross that line and was abusive to someone and you didnt follow through on your hunches about him....

    so onto the crystals, like seann was saying, black tourmaline is really good for protection. it is like a filter that pulls funky energy through it and pushes it out the other end all clean. i would wear a big piece for sure. secondly, i would build up your own energetic field by wearing a piece of imperial topaz in a pouch over your solar plexus. if you strengthen your aura and solar plexus, you will be way less effected by this persons energy. lepidolite/muscovite mica is also very good for calming you and putting up a slippery shield of insulation on your aura.
    • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

      Tue, April 15, 2008 - 5:01 PM
      I feel concern for the situation too based upon the fact that the whole cross-spectrum of women are picking this up, and it's not too likely (though it would be heavenly) that all of you are metaphysically-inclined and -attuned. But a comment like "dirty" is really a kind of psychic reading. Besides protection I would think that it might be time for a little of the old "best defense is a good offense" thing. Banish the dude's present energy. One very common wiccan technique is to write down the person's name and then draw a star over it (a pentagram, 5 points) but in reverse. Instead of starting at the bottom left point of the star and moving up and right, you start at the bottom right of the star and move up and left. The star covers the name. As you do so your intention, spoken or silent, is to banish the energy of the dude and if necessary to accomplish this, banish the dude himself. Then -- this is important -- you put that piece of paper under some big weight or inside some dark, locked box. You bind it, energetically. And then be confident, calm and wait for developments. Which will definitely come. Often in an unpredictable way. When the energy or the guy has been removed, burn the piece of paper with gratitude.
      • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

        Tue, April 15, 2008 - 6:56 PM
        I'm not trying to diminish the vibes. I mean you guys may be dead on right. Maybe the guy is an actual criminal.

        Not doubting that at all.

        Just want to see you protected. Here in Jersey, I've had to interact with any number of actual Mafia guys. Cold as ice...and just, you know, really scary.

        But even with those types, if you stayed out of their way, you were pretty safe.

        One time I did a delivery to this mob place. I had to turn my back to the guy to set the delivery down. And I got this image in my mind of being shot in my head while my back was turned to him. I didn't think much of it, but later I thought that maybe that was a real thing...that this guy had actually killed someone and I was picking up on the consciousness of it.

        As far as investigating the dude...I just don't know. I mean if you could do that safely, that would be fine. But criminals tend to be very intuitive about danger...and I just don't want to see you getting into a dangerous situation, ya know?

        I'll send some prayers your way and for the guy too.

        Hoping for the best,

        take care

        Jon
        • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

          Tue, April 15, 2008 - 9:25 PM
          Thanks again, Jon. As I mentioned in another response, it is standard practice to do a pre-employment criminal background check, but I do not know how foolproof and thorough their methods are, here. Back in Arizona, they did a fingerprint clearance. Here in Minnesota, they request criminal records from all the counties one reports having lived in for the last several years - and it might be easy to leave some out.
      • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

        Tue, April 15, 2008 - 9:21 PM
        Lily, most of us are wildly untrained, but empathy is a very common trait/ability for us caregivers. I've learned a long time ago to listen not only to my own intuition but also to trust my colleagues when they mention having those "funny feelings". We are quite comfortable talking about ghosts - it has come up in staff meetings that there may be a ghost at the house (former resident who passed away, lovely person, benevolent spirit, I think she may just be checking in on us rather than consistently haunting).

        Ya know, it's almost odd that I have relatively little concern about this guy harming any of the residents. He has a daughter who is developmentally disabled, that's how he got started working in the field. He has fun talking with the residents, working with them, and participating in recreational activities with them. The red flags are waving in regards to us female staff members - and that must be why I have had such a hard time putting my finger on what is not right about this guy. Normally, I am so focussed on caring for and protecting the residents, that it would not occur to me to look for danger _for_ my coworkers. Wow. There's a lightbulb turning on.

        Thank you for your suggestions. I do want to try banishing this guy's energy.

        I can also shield the house against negative energy.
    • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

      Tue, April 15, 2008 - 9:00 PM
      There are "background studies" done, where the new employee's criminal record is requested from the counties s/he has lived in, in the last however many years. The hitch in the works is that they ask the employee to tell them where all s/he lived - so it might be very easy to get away with leaving some places out, if there might be inconvenient information there.

      As we are all on alert around this guy, we are carefully observing how he acts with the residents and how they respond to him. Hopefully, we will be able to observe real problems before they get out of hand. And I am really glad that I brought it up here, because the insights being shared here will help me know which directions to look for trouble from, and perhaps help to ward off serious issues. Thank you so much for validating my concerns and offering suggestions to help, kristalina.
      • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

        Tue, April 15, 2008 - 9:22 PM
        I am a great believer in ritual,intention,even prayer when appropriate,but when a whole cross section of women are getting the same uneasiness and discomfiture around a person a background check seems hardly necessary in my mind. Concealed personal defense devices such as pepper spray or a tazer seem to be a more practical method of restoring confidence and equanimity. Or possibly a crystal the size of a billiard ball.
        Just saying...
        • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

          Tue, April 15, 2008 - 9:39 PM
          good point stephen, actual self protection like pepper spray is a great idea. it would be a good thing tho, if probing deeper into his background would give the supervisor legal grounds to fire him.

          you could break someones arm with 4 pounds of pressure....if they go to grab you, grab their arm pull it up to your shoulder and with your other arm hold it with your fist pointing up and your arm bent....move it quickly toward his arm, this will break the elbow very easily. i have taken self defense back in the college days, when there was a serial rapist on the loose on my street. he had actually broken into my friends house, (previously stealing her panties)..and one day he was waiting for her when she came home. i would suggest every woman learn how to do this move......dont wait till the story hits close to home.
          • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

            Tue, April 15, 2008 - 10:34 PM
            hmmmmm,...

            well, from my activist days, my legal background is coming to the fore.

            You guys do have to be careful about violating this guys' rights. You can get sued for that. As in lose your bank account and house sued. Even if this guy has a criminal past, he still has legal rights. You can't fire someone for something like that. It is an action without cause.
            Say 5 years ago, I had a fist fight in a bar. Does that mean that I am going to attack people on the job? I've done counseling with ex-cons. The danger they present varies widely. Even among murderers. Some people only kill in very personal interactions and are absolutely no danger to any stranger. I've interacted with a couple of ex-cons who took a life. Both were no more likely to kill again than you or I. And if a guy who has even taken a life has served his time, he also has legal rights.

            I'm not sure I like the idea of investigating someone's background and all. Isn't that what the Bush Administration does with domestic spying and why we hate that stuff so much? Why do we have the right to violate another's privacy? Because of fear and worry? I mean, that would justify doing anything to anyone. I mean, it would be different if he cornered some employee in a hallway and threatened them, but there was no proof...and you guys needed some way to protect yourselves. But he has not violated anyone's rights yet, has he? Why does he deserve to be treated like a criminal unless he has done something criminal to the folks at the job? I mean, if you guys are wrong about this vibe thing, and you violate the privacy of an innocent person......that is a horrible thing for a someone to experience.

            I think pepper spray is ok if you have some training in self-defense. If not, I am not sure that is a great idea.
            People who are unskilled in the use of weapons - of any kind....are very likely to have those weapons turned on them by someone with experience. If Wind has trouble with telling the guy a joke to lighten the tone, how will Wind have the capacity to properly use pepper spray???

            And if pepper spray is used without legal justification, that is something like an assault charge.

            I have some background in martial arts. I could take pepper spray directly into the eyes and still incapacitate most people. It might hurt like crazy, but it would not impair my ability to attack someone. Pepper spray has to be used in combination with other things. The idea behind it is something like...stun the guy for a second or two, while you yell or run away. Beyond that little bit of a head start, it does not do that much. That alone can be enough to get out of a problem, but you have to have a bit of training. Are you fast enough to spray the eyes before he can close them? I mean, this is complicated stuff....

            Other than vibes, what evidence is there that this guy has done anything illegal?

            What if there are creepy vibes from the guy, but they are not from him, but from someone close to him? Maybe he's got a relative doing creepy stuff and the vibes are just carrying through. Maybe the guy is doing some nasty, but still legal. Maybe he has horrible personal hygiene. Or maybe he is seeing a prostitute or doing some illegal gambling, but the vibes have nothing to do with harming others.

            Unless you have some concrete evidence beyond vibes, I would really hold off on any action. Spiritual intuition is real, but it is hardly a precise science....even for professional psychics. A vibe of ill health may seem like a vibe of anger....there are all sorts of confusing scenarios.

            If this guy were a criminal, it is highly unlikely he would be bossy. Real cons are sneaky. They don't make a show of themselves. That makes it harder for them to steal or do what they want. So, I don't know that a criminal background would make sense with being a control freak or domineering or anything.

            However scary it may be, I would exercise some real caution here about how you proceed.
            • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

              Tue, April 15, 2008 - 11:26 PM
              if a person is applying to work in a situation where he or she is caring for people who are vulnerable, they are required to disclose information and have a background check done on them (it is a totally different situation if you are talking about a retail job or something). doesnt a place of hire and or supervisor have this authority? as synchronicity would have it, just this week in seattle a care provider of the elderly is being charged with the murder of one of his nursing home residents. i have heard of this happening alot, that is why in arizona fingerprints are required for employment. as far as i know, it is not considered an assault if you use pepper spray in self defense. i am in no way advising wind to go all scooby doo on this guy, but the care facility itself may have the grounds to at least double check the references/application and background info. i am glad that the communication is good amongst your co-workers and you can watch out for each other. i respect those who are not afraid to act on and trust their intuition. in my opinion, we can not let fear of being sued stop us from protecting ourselves and those we are honored to care for. keep a heads up, and love in your heart.

              speaking from another first hand experience, i volunteered at a health club in california where i noticed peep holes in the ladies locker room. 9 of them in fact. i could not believe that i was the only person or first person to notice them. my gut and intuition also showed me who the person was that made them and was using them. i knew who it was, and i was right. the maintenance worker for the club. there were people who tried to scare me into not reporting it to the authorities. i chose to trust my intuition and went to the management and local police with my photos and intuitive information. sure i could of been worried about being sued, but i am so glad that i chose to be brave and fight for the rights of all those women (and children who took swimming classes there) who had no clue. sometimes you have to be brave enough to take a chance, be a rainbow warrior. the peep holes are now gone.

              please be careful, i would also leave it up to your supervisor or owners of the care facility to find out the legal ramifications of his background check . at least you know that together you and your co-workers brought up the awareness level :) thanks everyone for coming together with some really good perspectives and advice. we really have such a beautiful and thoughtful community here :)
              • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

                Wed, April 16, 2008 - 5:40 AM
                I fully agree with you Kristalina...all about balance in the process.

                "go all scooby doo on this guy,"

                - that line cracked me up!! never heard that expression before!!

                Once I was playing chess with this guy. He was extremely nervous. I asked what he did for a living. He was a psychiatric social worker. Worked with the criminally insane. Now, you just can't make this stuff up.

                So, one day, he is at work. And Steve comes into his office. Steve is about 6' 5" and maybe 250lbs. Steve is holding a brick in his hand. He tells the social worker that he needs him to call the police in order to "arrest the voices in his head." Mind you, this facility for the criminally insane (Steve had already taken a life), had no security!!! None! Some place in Central NJ, I forget the name....near Perth Amboy, I think. So, 6' 5" inch Steve is banging the brick on the table, begging the social worker to have the voices in his head arrested. I asked the guy what he did. He got very crafty. What he did was call the police. He said, "Hi, this is Bob, over at (Facility X), I am here with Steve. He would like you to come over and arrest the voices in his head. Luckily the police caught the drift and came right over.

                So, yeah, security is a very very very serious issue.

                No doubt about that.

                I called up the authorities and complained about the lack of the security at the place. I don't think they did anything. But I tried.

                Ah, what are you gonna do? So many tragedies and problems, so many tears. Why all this madness and hatred and violence in the world?

                So sad.
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                  Wed, April 16, 2008 - 9:26 AM
                  Oh I had wanted to say also in my response, as Jon has said above, that investigation by fellow employees (or possibly even formally asking management to do an investigation) is really not a good idea. Not just from the standpoint of legal liability (you can get sued for defamation and other things depending on the state if you blunder) but also from the fact that when you start something like that, you link your own energy to the suspect's energy--you get yours all wound up with theirs--and I think that's the opposite of what you all want to accomplish. In fact any ritual work should be done with the deliberate intention and feeling of neutrality, of impermeable boundary between the energies, of him over there (waaaaaaay over there) and the employees getting the heads-up info. over here, and the two do not meet or intermingle. It's the whole point of doing any ritual work in the situation and in an interesting way, is the most effective type of shielding. Instead of setting up a protection from an energy seen as focused toward yourself and presenting danger, you set up a situation where it becomes literally, two ships pass in the night without contact.

                  When I read the initial post I got the same immediate hit you describe -- that there could be a problem pertaining to the other employees only. So one could validly think about physical defenses as described, but that entails contemplating scenarios of risk, attack and danger and vulnerability and putting energy into those scenarios -- which adds to the possibility of their happening. And I think when we don't want something to happen, we shouldn't focus on it happening, but instead focus on being safe in our own spaces at all times, projecting our own protection and dignity and territories out so successfully that scenarios of attack become irrelevant in our realities.

                  This problem in fact presents a great opportunity for everyone there who is interested in empowering themselves generally to eliminate threat from their lives -- so useful now that at almost every moment we're having some threat presented to us to keep us scared. Reacting most wisely to this one particular worry could actually prevent future similar situations from ever manifesting!
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                    Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

                    Wed, April 16, 2008 - 9:49 AM
                    i dont know lily, i dont think that learning to protect yourself with some sort of self defense is inviting those energies in. i have to disagree that people who have had to use these moves, invited their perpetrators to attack them by doing so. i also think there is a difference between having management recheck his background and making accusations against someone. yes, making false accusations against someone can get you sued, but doing something that the workplace is required to do when they hire someone is a different scenario. i see where you are coming from, but i still think it is a good idea to use avenues that are available and legal. looking back over his application process is different than accusing someone of something.........i agree it is a good idea to seperate yourself from the energies for sure. just my two cents and opinion i guess.
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                      Wed, April 16, 2008 - 10:15 AM
                      "As I mentioned in another response, it is standard practice to do a pre-employment criminal background check, but I do not know how foolproof and thorough their methods are, here. Back in Arizona, they did a fingerprint clearance. Here in Minnesota, they request criminal records from all the counties one reports having lived in for the last several years - and it might be easy to leave some out."

                      i would lobby your states congress and representatives to change this procedure.
                    • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

                      Thu, April 17, 2008 - 7:03 AM
                      "i dont know lily, i dont think that learning to protect yourself with some sort of self defense is inviting those energies in. i have to disagree that people who have had to use these moves, invited their perpetrators to attack them by doing so."

                      I have found that the level of awareness - of what is going on around me, of people's body language, of the need to pay attention to intuitive feelings to avoid certain situations, of my own ability to defend myself - has been more valuable than any actual moves I could make in keeping myself safe. That awareness was something that self-defense training has honed. It gives one a level of confidence that can ward off certain types of trouble. I think it was Jon who has mentioned how inherently crafty criminals can be. The last thing many of them want is to attack someone who is aware enough to notice them and their potential for trouble. There are many types of crimes for which that lack of confidence and lack of awareness make a person infinitely more vulnerable - and this is true in domestic crimes such as abuse as well as in muggings, etc. In this discussion, and in the discussions I have been having with my coworkers about this guy, we are increasing the awareness levels, and it may be that this will be what turns the tide against any potential violence he might bring into our workplace.

                      Again, thank you all for your insights and suggestions.
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                        Thu, April 17, 2008 - 11:17 AM
                        Since I am very new to this tribe and just expanding my knoledge...this may or may not be totally off. I have a habbit of taking on peoples energy-good or bad and now I have a smoke quartz around my neck that I never take off. I cleanse it every morning and it has help me temendously. I think your problem is a lot different, but if it could help difusse some of the energy he is sending out, it might help.......but that is just my uneducated opinion.......like I said I am just learning.
                        • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

                          Thu, April 17, 2008 - 12:21 PM
                          Hematite is good,
                          its gun metal !
                          cant get better protection than that.
                          Plus it has a Shiny Surface to reflect whats aimed at ya !
                          Selotape a little of this to your wrist and no one knows its there.
                          Hey Presto !
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                          • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

                            Fri, April 18, 2008 - 3:40 PM
                            Dudes,
                            has anyone considered this guy might in fact be into Black Magick ?
                            The same kind of concerns and reactions come with these sort of people hence everyone runs for the light being crystals !
                            The feeling of him having a dirty energy also equates to darker arts.

                            I would reccomend a banishing rite before and after work at least.
  • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

    Tue, April 22, 2008 - 2:07 PM
    the first thing that came to my mind was black tourmaline and i see others have said the same. it is great for protection!!!
    • Re: Need suggestions for crystal of protection

      Thu, April 24, 2008 - 12:22 AM
      I found a lot of a dozen good-sized chunks of black tourmaline on eBay, plus some silver wire to make wire-wrap pendants for all us ladies.... I wonder if I can have the residents string 'em onto the cording, so it becomes a group craft project, and so they can give the pendants to all the staff.... adding meaning and love to the project.

      The photos of the tourmaline look rather like they might want a bit of polishing to really look nice as jewelry, but I'm not sure how best to do that. Well, I shall worry about it when they arrive.

      Thanks again, all.
  • I wanted to update everyone on this situation. I did the banishing ritual mentioned above, with the intention that his negative energy be banished from the group home, whether it be that he could shed that negative energy or if he could not be separated from it, that he himself should not come in. He started calling in sick a lot. I was also working on getting hold of some black tourmaline, and bringing it into the home and sharing with coworkers, and last week when he called in sick, they let him go.

    Thank you all so much for your helpful ideas, and for your good vibes.
    • I have a kinda funny story in this regard. I have never been too enthusiastic about ritual magic, sigils, etc because I don't think I have the maturity or discretion to be wielding those powers over others, but last winter I became suspicious that someone was hexing me. This certain someone was a well known terror of a certain Yahoo forum that was dedicated to "ormus" and this person seemed intent on disrupting the forum at every opportunity and constantly splashing his rather grotesque ego all over the place - a real trouble maker and bull in the china closet. He and I had some particularly heated exchanges on the forum. Finally the moderator after extraordinary patience booted the guy off the forum. That is when I began to feel a "presence" for lack of a better word attacking me psychically and physically. A visit to this person's web site where there was revealed a penchant for ritual magic in addition to a talent for making some of the more dangerous and risky forms of ormus convinced me that it might be smart for me to set up some sort of ritual defense or counter attack - this guy was giving off a sinister vibe in more than a few ways. First, I printed his picture from off his site in triplicate and then burned these in my kitchen sink. Then I wrote in Word "wingding" script -"It hath been returned fourfold" and emailed him this. He never did reply, but the feeling of hex immediately lifted, my health returned, I felt a mild euphoria set in. Now this could have been a psychosomatic release and nothing more, but if I ever feel I am being attacked in this manner again, I will certainly try some more magic as a defense.
      Nice to hear this stuff may have worked for you, Wind.

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