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So, many here keep up the parroting that the Gaza blockade is "illegal". I've been looking around to find what constitutes this "illegal" action, but I can't find it.
Since so many of you choose to say that it's "illegal", then I imagine that you can source where that claim came from fairly easily...
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Re: Is the Gaza Blockade Illegal?
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 2:30 PMYes..
Gaza is occupied territory and collective punishment of civilians is illegal under the Fourth Geneva convention..
From Human rights watch..
"Israel’s blockade of the Gaza Strip, an occupied territory under the Fourth Geneva Convention, constitutes collective punishment in violation of the laws of war."
www.hrw.org/en/news/2008...blockade-gaza
The Fourth Geneva convention..
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Art. 33. No protected person may be punished for an offence he or she has not personally committed. Collective penalties and likewise all measures of intimidation or of terrorism are prohibited.
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Re: Is the Gaza Blockade Illegal?
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 3:21 PMHarmen, WHO CARES WHAT HRW SAYS?!
Israel IS NOT A SIGNATORY TO 1977 ADDENDUMS OF GENEVA 4!
Jesus H Christ on a fucking cross. That's like saying that Russia should abide by NAFTA because its a treaty lots of people agree to, even though it has nothing to do with Russia.
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Re: Is the Gaza Blockade Illegal?
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 5:47 PMHarmen, I did not say 'immoral', or maybe ... shit, I can't even think of another way to phrase it. I said "Illegal" in as much as 'International Law' is relevant.
Quote for me where it's "Illegal".
Any of you want to do it? ESPECIALLY those of you that call Israel's blockade "illegal".
Come on. Keep trying. Is Harmen the only one of you that will try?
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Re: Is the Gaza Blockade Illegal?
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 3:21 AMSalil..
As far as i know article 33 is not part of the 1977 addendum but in the original Fourth Geneva convention from 1949/1950..
Here is a UN spokesman on the issue..
UN expert says Israeli seizure of aid ship a crime
Thu Jul 2, 2009
* Seizure illegal, Gaza blockade "crime against humanity"-UN
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By Stephanie Nebehay
GENEVA, July 2 (Reuters) - A U.N. human rights investigator on Thursday called Israel's seizure of a ship carrying relief aid for the Gaza Strip "unlawful" and said its blockade of the territory constituted a "continuing crime against humanity".
Israeli authorities on Tuesday intercepted the vessel, which was also carrying 21 pro-Palestinian activists, and said it would not be permitted to enter Gaza coastal waters because of security risks in the area and its existing naval blockade.
Richard Falk, the United Nations special rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, said the move was part of Israel's "cruel blockade of the entire Palestinian population of Gaza" in violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention prohibiting any form of collective punishment against "an occupied people".
Falk, an American expert on international law, said Israel's two-year blockade of Hamas-ruled Gaza restricted vital supplies such as food, medicine and fuel to "bare subsistence levels".
The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) said in a report this week that Israel was also halting entry to Gaza of building materials and spare parts needed to repair damage from its 22-day invasion late last December.
"Such a pattern of continuing blockade under these conditions amounts to such a serious violation of the Geneva Conventions as to constitute a continuing crime against humanity," Falk said in a statement released in Geneva.
Prior to leaving Cyprus, the ship was inspected by Cypriot authorities in response to Israeli demands to determine whether it carried any weapons, according to the U.N. investigator. "None were found and Israeli authorities were so informed."
"Nonetheless, the 21 peace activists on the boat were arrested, held in captivity and have been charged with 'illegal entry' to Israel even though they had no intention of going to Israel," Falk added.
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Re: Is the Gaza Blockade Illegal?
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 5:52 AMHarmen, there's a difference between saying the blockade is illegal, and saying that the method is a 'crime against humanity'
And who cares what some lone UN expert says? Its irrelevant. There is ONE body at the uN that can make this determination, and they havent.
anyway, you're wrong. Here's the 1977 addendum.
www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/93.htm
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Re: Is the Gaza Blockade Illegal?
Thu, July 2, 2009 - 11:53 PMWhat does it even matter?
Israel has shown contempt for international law for decades.
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Re: Is the Gaza Blockade Illegal?
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 1:46 AMJohn:
What does it even matter?
Hamas has shown contempt for international law for decades.
How will murdering civilians being legal or illegal change anything? -
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Re: Is the Gaza Blockade Illegal?
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 2:22 AM -
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Re: Is the Gaza Blockade Illegal?
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 2:24 AMSTAND WITH FREE GAZA
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Re: Is the Gaza Blockade Illegal?
Fri, July 3, 2009 - 3:22 AM<What does it even matter?>
GREAT question, John!
Wanna ask all the people here who won't stop pointing out how "illegal" this blockade is?
You're right, John - what does it even matter!?
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