Is this propaganda?

topic posted Fri, July 25, 2008 - 4:08 PM by 





International Solidarity Foundation: Israel has killed 801 Palestinians this year
24.07.08 - 14:10
Nablus / Amin Abu Wardeh - A paper prepared by lawyers Imad Salah al-Din and Ahmed Sameer al- Tubasi from the International Solidarity Foundation for Human Rights documents the killing of 801 Palestinians by Israelis between June 2007 and June 2008.

The paper also reports targeted assassinations against journalists and violations against Palestinian shrines, charities and cooperatives.

Of the 801 Palestinians killed by Israelis, 107 were children and 33 were women.

The document also states that 5,437 Palestinians were arrested within the year, many of them now held in administrative detention centers. More than 11,000 Palestinians are currently being held in Israeli jails.

Israeli attacks against journalists included: detention, killing, injury, storming of press institutions, and closure of local news stations. The International Solidarity Foundation found that Israelis assaulted 58 journalists in one year. All of these actions violated international law and the Geneva Conventions.

International law also calls for the need to protect the sanctity of holy places and to preserve the culture and heritage of all countries. Regardless of this law, Israel has continued to excavate sacred Palestinian areas including the Al Aqsa mosque in East Jerusalem. Israeli forces attacked more than 88 Palestinian sanctities within the year.

Various Palestinian charities and NGOs supply health services and support social and cultural rights in the region. More than 58 attacks on these institutions occurred in the time period, including confiscation and tampering of materials, and enforced closure.

The International Solidarity Foundation for Human Rights also documented more than 608 Israeli barriers and impediments in the West Bank, resulting in devastating consequences for the lives of Palestinians.

After reviewing all Israeli violations committed between June 2007 and June 2008, the International Solidarity Foundation for Human Rights reports:

–A need for international pressure on Israel to abide by its duties as an occupying power in accordance with international law.

–Israel's 'security' justifications for committing various crimes against Palestinians are not justifiable.

–The end of the occupation of Palestine could well result in security, peace and stability for all.

–The necessity of the prosecution of each Israeli responsible for crimes against Palestinians in the interests of legal, ethical and humanitarian justice.

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  • Re: Is this propaganda?

    Fri, July 25, 2008 - 5:34 PM
    Propaganda is a concerted set of messages aimed at influencing the opinions or behaviors of large number of people. As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda in its most basic sense presents information in order to influence its audience.

    Yes. It is. Every bit as much as every post that Yehudi (or whatever he calls himself now) is
  • Re: Is this propaganda?

    Fri, July 25, 2008 - 10:19 PM
    The definition of propaganda is quite broad..

    from wiki:
    "Propaganda is a concerted set of messages aimed at influencing the opinions or behaviors of large number of people."

    In principle:
    propaganda does not have to mean bad quality, omissions or lies..

    But in common language the word propaganda got a bad name:

    Because the NAZI regime of Germany used lots and lots of propaganda..
    Another infamous example of propaganda machine is the pro Israeli lobby in the US..
    The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were also based on massive (mostly Neocon) propaganda campaigns..
    The genocide in Rwanda was also the result of an ethnic propaganda campaign.
    These propaganda campaigns did/do contain omissions and lies..
    One of the reasons i post here..

    "Of the 801 Palestinians killed by Israelis, 107 were children and 33 were women.

    The document also states that 5,437 Palestinians were arrested within the year, many of them now held in administrative detention centers. More than 11,000 Palestinians are currently being held in Israeli jails

    Israeli attacks against journalists included: detention, killing, injury, storming of press institutions, and closure of local news stations. The International Solidarity Foundation found that Israelis assaulted 58 journalists in one year. All of these actions violated international law and the Geneva Conventions. "

    So the answer is..
    While this article might be propaganda, the stated facts seem to be correct..
    • Re: Is this propaganda?

      Sat, July 26, 2008 - 12:26 AM
      From wikipedia in a bit more depth:

      "Propaganda is a concerted set of messages aimed at influencing the opinions or behaviors of large number of people. As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda in its most basic sense presents information in order to influence its audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or gives loaded messages in order to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the cognitive narrative of the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda."

      Or to make that most simply: Propaganda intends to influence rather than inform.

      ISM doesn't have the slightest desire to inform people about the whole truth. They make lies through omission, in order to push forward a certain political agenda. They're clearly propagandists.
      • Re: Is this propaganda?

        Sat, July 26, 2008 - 3:47 AM

        When taken in context to the rest of their public statements - yes. Obviously.

        Is this ONE STORY propaganda? No.

        <The International Solidarity Foundation found that Israelis assaulted 58 journalists in one year. All of these actions violated international law and the Geneva Conventions.>

        This would not be propaganda if they pointed out that these terrorist groups violated international law by intentionally targeting Israelis. I could not find this information anywhere on the palsolidarity.com site. Can you?

        When someone only takes ONE SIDE, they fall to the direction of propaganda. When they have an agenda and a bias in their intent - that's propaganda by the very definition of the word, and this then is propaganda. Understand that telling the truth can still be propaganda, and telling half-truths purposefully when you know the whole story is propaganda.

        <International law also calls for the need to protect the sanctity of holy places and to preserve the culture and heritage of all countries. Regardless of this law, Israel has continued to excavate sacred Palestinian areas including the Al Aqsa mosque in East Jerusalem.>

        You recognize that this is the most sacred place in all Judaism, right? The Muslims built the mosque on top of a Jewish holy place. Do you know this? I doubt it. (Propaganda)

        <Israeli forces attacked more than 88 Palestinian sanctities within the year.>

        Do yo know that many times this is because the Pals FIRED FROM these areas? I doubt it. (Propaganda)


    • Re: Is this propaganda?

      Sat, July 26, 2008 - 8:37 PM
      >> While this article might be propaganda, the stated facts seem to be correct..

      Correct? Really? Did you find the references? I didn't. Do you assume the facts are correct because they didn't use round numbers? So instead of saying:

      "Of the 800 Palestinians killed by Israelis, 100 were children and 30 were women.

      They said:

      "Of the 801 Palestinians killed by Israelis, 107 were children and 33 were women.

      so it must be true because the number "looked accurate". That, my friend, is a very old propaganda trick.

      Anyway, this thread isn't about accuracy - it's about propaganda. I think we all agree that this article is indeed propaganda. On to the next thread...
      • Re: Is this propaganda?

        Sun, July 27, 2008 - 3:49 AM
        <"Of the 801 Palestinians killed by Israelis, 107 were children and 33 were women.>

        And, also - to be fair............how and why were they killed? Were they in or too close to an apartment building that the terrorists were using to attack Israel? Were they involved themselves in an attack in some way or another?

        Those are fair questions, I do believe.
  • Re: Is this propaganda?

    Sun, July 27, 2008 - 10:54 AM
    !!!FALSE PROPAGANDA!!!

    >International law also calls for the need to protect the sanctity of holy places and to preserve the culture and heritage of all countries. Regardless of this law, Israel has continued to excavate sacred Palestinian areas including the Al Aqsa mosque in East Jerusalem. Israeli forces attacked more than 88 Palestinian sanctities within the year.<

    This is a downright lie! I find this statement to be especially disturbing, considering what the p's have done to many Jewish synagogues in Gaza and the tomb of Joseph being ripped apart and burned.
    Israel is not excavating the Temple Mt (known as Al Asqa by the Muslims) IN FACT, the Muslim Waqf has been ripping apart the templel mt for the past few years, destroying second temple artifacts in an attempt to erase history of a Jewish Claim on the mt.

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