we have something in the works!

topic posted Thu, March 20, 2008 - 7:09 PM by 
everyone is sure to be happy :0)
i will keep you posted.
if we have a goal of ordering by cinco de mayo
(but i think it will be ready before then)
then we will have them before the GAMH
(or pictures of everyone who can't make it wearing theirs for
a project i'd like to put together for the GAMH May 30th)

i am putting some preliminary numbers together.
would a good quality original t-shirt be
worth $20 to you? (with anything funds over cost going towards to band)
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    Thu, March 20, 2008 - 10:05 PM
    awesome~count me in!! i agree with freddie!! happy happy miller time!!

    peace, love & happiness,
    michelle
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      Fri, March 21, 2008 - 8:38 AM
      what is the proposed design for our mr miller rock god tshirt? i'll be happy to pay whatever......
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        Fri, March 21, 2008 - 9:21 AM
        I'll take one, whatever the cost is, XL
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          Fri, March 21, 2008 - 11:50 AM
          I LOVE the idea of showing Mr. Miller some love & righteously earned appreciation! I LOVE the creativity this goal is sparking in y'all!

          I IN NO WAY want to rain on this love parade! I would like to add to the love by asking that y'all seriously consider the greater good of our planet & the people we may never meet who will help make this beautiful dream come true. If you're willing to pitch-in a little extra for the band, how bout kicking in a little extra to get organic fair trade cotton t-shirts? I'm sure it would warm Jeff's heart even more to know no pesticides polluted the planet in the making of his sweet surprise.

          If you are blissfully unaware of the true cost of a t-shirt, may I recommend the following 2 articles as an introduction?

          With love for all ONE,
          Jeni

          "There is no such thing as cheap clothes: the true price is paid in human and environmental degradation at the bottom of the supplychain. The only thing that can save these people is to somehow make a change in the way that clothes are made. Research shows that consumers are prepared to buy goods that are ethically and environmentally produced but if only they are at the same price as conventional ones. " -- www.theecologist.org/archive_detail.asp


          "The average price of a T-shirt imported into the US is $1.51, but a downtown department store in Manhattan will sell two for $20; cotton that started in Africa costing $0.76 a kilo is now worth $25 a kilo.
          But Ms Athreya urges bargain-hunting consumers to think about the "true cost" of their purchase.
          "We're all consumers and we need to buy clothes," she says.
          "But I would just ask that people think a little bit about some of the budget clothing that is just so incredibly cheap... it's just not sustainable. " -- news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6612677.stm


          Count me in for at least one t-shirt if y'all go organic, but I will respectfully bow out if y'all choose to go "conventional."
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            Fri, March 21, 2008 - 12:13 PM
            i LOVE your thinking jeni!!!!!!!!
            i am going to ask Mountain Air Batik and the Emersons
            for their sources,
            but if anyone knows of one,
            let me know.

            i'll post a pic as soon as we have something august!
            but this might take some time.
            i am SO excited about this :0)

            it is so much fun to come together to show these guys they are loved.
            seeing Phil fumble on Watervein was so cute, and i can't wait to see pics of Bo
            turning bright red on the Greenhouse reveal! tell me that someone took pics!
            i wonder what marshall and sean will have. . . i would still love a i heart my shirt too!
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              Fri, March 21, 2008 - 12:27 PM
              my hoodie from mountain air is from www.twojupiters.com/
              one of my mountain air shirts is from Beneficial Ts.
              can anyone tell me what their Team Felino tag says?
              i can't find mine.
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                Fri, March 21, 2008 - 12:36 PM
                here is another: ocadvantage.com.au/wholesal...ault.aspx
                i need to find a job doing merch!
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                  Fri, March 21, 2008 - 1:00 PM
                  Hey Kiera! I'm so glad we see heart to heart on this one!

                  My Team Ferlino shirt tag says "American Apparel Sustainable Edition" & is 100% Certified Organic Cotton! NICE!!! GO TEAM!!!

                  When my heart is in the right place at the moment I make a decision, especially after I have made good faith efforts to educate myself before making the decision, then I do not beat myself up about it if I later discover that I could have made an even better decision. But I frequently get frustrated w/ trying to be an ecologically responsible consumer for reasons just like this:

                  It turns out American Apparel has come under fire for oppressing their well-paid American employees by squashing their efforts to organize into a union... plus sexual harassment allegations are rampant. Check out this article only if you don't mind your tummy turning over the notion that even the good guys aren't so great: clamormagazine.org/issues/3...liams.php

                  "Adam Neiman of garment manufacturer No Sweat Apparel hypothesizes that Charney’s narrow-sightedness plays a large role in how he views the opposite sex in general and women workers specifically. The reason American Apparel’s model fails its female employees, according to Neiman, is that Charney retains all the power for himself while the women he employs have a faux sense of liberation that exists strictly within the rules, or lack thereof, that the mastermind has created.

                  Despite its pro-labor marketing, American Apparel has no union, no legal body to advocate for the workers. But “the worker-voiced union model is critical,” offers Neiman. “It’s not enough to have a groovy guy at the top touting, ‘We don’t need union contracts, ’cause we’re all groovy guys. Can’t you tell? We’ve got ponytails!’”

                  Sideshow Acts
                  Neiman’s is one of a few companies doing what American Apparel promised, sans over-hyped sexuality. There are also companies that take a more satirical approach. Sweatshop Labor Productions, a small operation that produces limited-edition screen-printed T-shirts, promoted their collective with sidewalk stencils that read “I [heart] Sweatshop Labor.”

                  In a farcical world of its own design exists the collaborative group at Sweatshop Labor Productions. These young entrepreneurial artists aren’t merely tuned in to youth culture; they are youth culture.

                  SLP’s Lucas feels strongly about the message American Apparel, and America more generally, is circulating about youth culture. It’s the old sex, drugs, and rock ‘n’ roll adage – and it’s blatantly sexist, casting exploitation as masculine and strong and justice-oriented ethics as feminine and weak. “Being against sweatshop labor is a strong position to take, especially for a young company [such as Sweatshop Labor Productions] that must rely on controversy and gossip to get anywhere,” says Lucas, who believes American Apparel is really a good company behaving badly. “One of the ways that American Apparel tries to cover up for its ‘good ethics,’” Lucas says, “is with the hot girls in sexy positions. They think that by exploiting women they won’t look like a bunch of bleeding-heart pussies.”

                  ...This is possible because, at least so far, the new niche market of liberal consumerism is primarily concerned with workers’ rights if the workers in question live far away, in an exotic locale where adding a fair-trade sticker costs a corporation pennies. Deciding to not buy a product because the company that makes it is fighting its own workers’ unionization efforts is not something Charney’s “young metropolitan adults” really do. And as long as progressive consumer standards apply only to workers’ rights in other countries, Dov Charney’s factory is unlikely to supplement the free massages with job security or a voice at work. "



                  WHATFREAKINEVER!!! Follow your heart folks, just follow your heart...
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                    Re: we have something in the works!

                    Fri, March 21, 2008 - 1:17 PM
                    thanks for bringing it up.
                    i am not nearly as concious
                    as i know i could be!
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                      Fri, March 21, 2008 - 1:24 PM
                      I just happened to stumble across that article when I googled "organic fair trade cotton custom t-shirts" hoping to help find a good source for our Miller Time shirts. It's not like I went out looking to slam the source of our Team Ferlino shirts.

                      That might just be my luck. Days after I bought my last tube of Burt's Bees chapstick, I found out they had been bought out by Johnson & Johnson. Then days after I bought some Aveda lipstick to replace my Burt's Bees, I found out Aveda has been bought out by Este Lauder. I don't know why the universe keeps upping the anti on me, but I wish it weren't so dang difficult to be a compassionate consumer...

                      Ok, thanks for letting me vent, now back to the FABULOUS creative energy y'all were pouring into this fun idea!
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                        Wed, April 30, 2008 - 4:53 PM
                        From our past conversation I have been doing more research.
                        Ugh. Ignorance can be bliss! But I am really trying to vote with my dollars.

                        missionplayground.com/www/200...dex.html

                        AWARENESS

                        How much does Fashion cost?

                        *You might not know that most of the world's clothing is manufactured in sweatshops in poorer countries, where workers earn less than they need to live. The workers face cramped or unsanitary conditions, and are often subjected to abuse.

                        As global awareness of the real price of fashion grows, many consumers as well as some clothing manufacturers are leading the push for more eco- and worker-friendly apparel.

                        Here at Mission Playground we are trying to make a push in the clothing industry towards more environmentally sound products. It's not enough having a visual message on your shirt. We think the shirt itself should send a message from start to finish.

                        Here are a few Things that you might not have known:

                        * Hispanic workers earn 85 cents an hour for their labor, while in Indonesia the pay is only 15 cents an hour. Even in the United States, a worker may earn less than $5 for making a garment that will sell for $100.

                        * A cotton T-shirt blended with polyester can release approximately one quarter of its weight in air pollutants and 10 times its weight in carbon dioxide.

                        *Most conventional cotton growing relies on heavy inputs of insecticides, herbicides, and chemical fertilizers, many of which are known or probable carcinogens.

                        Here are some things that you can do:

                        * Get Involved! In the United States, student activists have demanded that their schools contract only with “sweat-free” producers.

                        * Cotton blends can be combined with materials such as hemp or Recycled fibers.

                        * Organic cotton growing accounts for only 0.03 percent of the world's cotton, but is expanding. Although organic materials might cost a little more it is well worth the investment.

                        - Ask for organic cotton goods at your local retailer.

                        Mission Playground is working towards our goal of offering fully organic t-shirts and other garments produced out of recycled fibers and materials. As we continue to grow we will expand our 100% eco-friendly product base.

                        * Information provided by "www.worldwatch.org/"

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