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North Nodes in Synastry - question

topic posted Thu, April 15, 2010 - 10:28 AM by  Temp
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I have the following aspects with someone I'm close to. this has been the most significant relationship of my life and right now, it is totally deteriorating and unravelling .. I'm afraid it's going to be over ... too much has happened already ... do these aspects indicate a long term relationship? I'm the North Node person.

North Node sextile Sun 19 Virgo 12'38" 17 Scorpio 12'53" 2

North Node opp Moon 19 Virgo 12'38" 17 Pisces 0'53" 2.2

North Node sextile Venus 19 Virgo 12'38" 13 Scorpio 51'44" 5.35

North Node conjunct Saturn 19 Virgo 12'38" 12 Virgo 9'14" 7.05

North Node sextile Uranus 19 Virgo 12'38" 16 Scorpio 45' 4" 2.45

North Node square Neptune 19 Virgo 12'38" 16 Sagittarius 55'26" 2.28

North Node conjunct North Node 19 Virgo 12'38" 23 Virgo 58'49" 4.77
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    Re: North Nodes in Synastry - question

    Fri, April 16, 2010 - 2:13 AM
    No, they don't. You have the very same aspects with all the other people who were born on that same day at approximately the same hour all over the globe, and you don't want a long term relationship with ALL these people - or do you?
    Or in other words, charts do not have the power to make people stick to each other like eternal glue. Everyone has freedom of choice (thank God) to leave a relationship - or to stay. Saturn aspects to personal planets (sun, moon, venus, mars, ascendant) MAY cause people to stay together a bit longer than they would otherwise, but I would never ever make a bet on that either.
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      Fri, April 16, 2010 - 8:42 AM
      "No, they don't. You have the very same aspects with all the other people who were born on that same day at approximately the same hour all over the globe, and you don't want a long term relationship with ALL these people - or do you?
      Or in other words, charts do not have the power to make people stick to each other like eternal glue. Everyone has freedom of choice (thank God) to leave a relationship - or to stay. Saturn aspects to personal planets (sun, moon, venus, mars, ascendant) MAY cause people to stay together a bit longer than they would otherwise, but I would never ever make a bet on that either. "

      Some of this I definitely agree with, but it sounds to me like this is someone in a rough patch in their relationship, and they're really worried it's going to fall apart, and thinks the Nodes indicate a separation of some sort or something. I don't think they're looking for reassurance that they aren't bound to somebody, so much as worried that the astrology says their relationship is doomed.

      To the OP - natal and synastry (or composite) aspects, aren't fate. Whether or not your relationship works, is up to the two of you, no matter how many good or bad placements a couple has, that doesn't determine the fate of the relationship. Plenty of people have very good synastry and part ways, and plenty don't and stay together, and vice versa. So, really, don't worry about it.
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    Sun, May 2, 2010 - 7:04 AM
    It first has to be stated and affirmed that the whole astrological chart of both of you has to be taken into account when looking at synastry but not before the individual charts are considered in their own right.

    Each of you will have various levels of drives heading you towards your own individual destiny and hopefully fulfilment and karmic release.

    One or both of you may have other deeper needs drawing you in other directions and you must honour yourself first. However it may be something you can both share and journey towards together. As already stated its up to both of you to work it out and the stars do not fate an individual or a partnership but merely offers you choices within the challenges it puts forth .....and relationships do get challenged and do go up and down.

    To quote myself from a recent topic:

    venus in pisces / Do we love too much?

    ........The opportunity for personal love is rare and special and Karma plays a part in whether we are meant to have this experience in this life. We cannot force it to happen because we crave it and we must not deceive ourselves and make compromises of love because we fear to be alone. ......

    In the pursuance of understanding the chart placements it is worth noting

    1. That while your North Nodes conjunct, which is an important indicator of something significant going on between you, it needs to said that what area of your life energies this applies to and what is it that is important you need to experience together.

    2. Your North Node opposing his Moon is actually your South Node conjuncting his Moon which is what astrologers take into account when considering the Nodal Axis - The South Node representing not only the past, where you have been but also where you are coming from and where you feel familiar. it is the resource within you which you can draw from and fall back on - a great strength or a two edged sword if your inner self is really trying to driving go forward to who you would like to be.

    The Moon person will have a strong sense of identifying with the Node person. The Node person has the opportunity and choice as to how far the person goes in the direction the North Node balanced with how far they can or will take the Moon person along with them - it does 'take two to tango' and in a progressive relationship you both have to pull in the same direction otherwise one will pull the other back or off course from their natural path.

    3. North Node conjunct Saturn is also very important with a determining effect. From my personal experience many students and clients that have come to me have had their North Node conjunct my Saturn. Under these circumstances it has been clear that a specific lesson was needed to be learned by the North Node person which once learned they were happy to forge forward. At which point I side stepped to watch them blossom and reach for their own personal stars.

    4. To repeat, the whole chart has to be considered to make any sense of the combined conditions your soul is struggling through and to give you pointers as to your true strengths and areas of potential vulnerabilities.

    I hope this helps, feel free to ask more, but i would need more detail on the birth charts.
    • Re: North Nodes in Synastry - question

      Thu, May 6, 2010 - 4:56 AM
      thank you so much for your reply, Heimdall. Right now, me n my friend have had a falling out for what seems to be a small issue according to me but a big one acc to them. They say it's too much, they're tired. We have never fought in the 12+ years that we've known each other and now the fights we've had were very severe confrontations. It's just unbelievable. I always thought we'd be friends but it seems they have let me go. I tried to make up, apologized, explained myself, but none of it seemed to work and only made things worse. They have asked me to stay away and that they would call me . so the ball is in their court. They always told me things would not change and now suddenly everything has.

      Could you tell me more and if there will be any kind of reconciliation between us? I hope so. I do not want to lose this friendship. Is it really over? :(

      I've sent you a private message which contains our details.
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      Sat, May 8, 2010 - 1:25 PM
      you mentioned that my South Node conjunct his Moon. there's really not much information available on the nodes on the internet but I did fine this on Cafe Astro:

      "If person A's planet (especially a personal planet) conjuncts B's South Node, the connection is there, no doubt. Person A will feel extremely comfortable with person B, at first. However, person A will eventually feel that the relationship drains him/her of energy, and may feel the need to move on and release him/herself from the relationship, as the relationship pulls him/her into the past. We all face our North Node issues at some point in our lives (we often start the process in our 30's!). If another person is emphasizing our South Node without equal or greater aspects to our North Node, we may feel held back and "outgrow" that person!"

      the above makes me very sad and fearful. I hope you can go thro' our charts and shed some light on what is going on and if we're going to be together or if this is it for us ... :(

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