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Hey Moria!!!
Hope all's well with you!
I gotta tell ya that your section in the new Tribal F. fundamentals DVD is really awesome it has helped me a lot I use it for my routine/practice all the time, but I am having trouble doing the butt contractions on the floor.. I just can't seem to get them buns moving the way yours do!! haha, they just move a bit from the bottom part of the muscle not the whole thing almost to the low back like you..the funny thing is mine are pretty big haha.. but they refuse to move.. so would you please suggest me to do something so that I achieve that level of movement in my glute muscles and can really work on that exercise??
Hope all's well with you!
I gotta tell ya that your section in the new Tribal F. fundamentals DVD is really awesome it has helped me a lot I use it for my routine/practice all the time, but I am having trouble doing the butt contractions on the floor.. I just can't seem to get them buns moving the way yours do!! haha, they just move a bit from the bottom part of the muscle not the whole thing almost to the low back like you..the funny thing is mine are pretty big haha.. but they refuse to move.. so would you please suggest me to do something so that I achieve that level of movement in my glute muscles and can really work on that exercise??
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Fri, December 19, 2008 - 1:17 AMHeehee! The movement will come with plenty of practice, I noticed that when I first started the glute squeezes. My problem is, I have no problem doing squeezes standing up, but when I get on the floor I can't lean forward (probably need to loosen my psoaz muscles right?) so I can't get the movement either. What i'm saying is a can't lean up off the sitz bones so I'm restricting the movement. Any tips for this too?!
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Fri, December 19, 2008 - 8:27 AMSuhaila originated the exercise so a video of hers might not go amiss for tips. I am practicing my straddle sit a lot and trying to press my "uterus" down onto the floor (weird description, I know). I think trying to get down on your elbows helps me, rotate the pelvis out and back and I'm doing them when reaching across a table or with a friend, grabbing her hands as she faces me and she pulls me forward.
You have three sections to your glutes, and when you first start the exercise the lowest part (the minimus, maybe?) is the only part of the glute that moves. Eventually as you stregnthen the glute the power comes from the medius and then ultimately the maximus. (I'm looking at a gluteal muscle chart and that seems odd, but that's how I was taught).
I have found squeezing halfway, all the way, and then releasing has helped me get more muscle behind my glute squeeze. -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Fri, December 19, 2008 - 8:27 AMAlso squeezing as tight as you can and then pulsing it even higher has helped me.
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Fri, December 19, 2008 - 8:33 AMHi, yeah I have Suhaila's Buns video, I can't say she gives any tips on how to lean off the glutes from what i remember - this is the only part of the exercise I seem to have a problem with, because standing my glutes are obviously moving - it's very odd! -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Fri, December 19, 2008 - 9:15 AMSAme problem here!
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Fri, December 19, 2008 - 10:37 AMThen it probably an inner thigh/pelvis inflexibility issue would be my guess? I know I have a similar problem-- I'm so tight in that area I can't help my lower back from curving.
This is silly, but have you tried physically reaching under you and pulling your glutes so they sit on the floor behind you? What about bringing the legs closer together? -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Fri, December 19, 2008 - 11:14 AMI have tried that and that helps a little. I think it is definitely tightness in the psoaz and inner thigh, as you said.
I like the suggestion, but no matter how close I bring the legs in, my lower back tends to curve, which is really annoying!! -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Fri, December 19, 2008 - 4:14 PMI know! My back is so curved, and it really starts to hurt after awhile. A couple of days ago I tried doing them with my back against the wall and that helped a little too.
All of us three are going to figure out a way to conquer the curved back, I know it! -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Fri, December 19, 2008 - 8:00 PMHeck yeah Megan!!! let's co-fund the "Lazy Big Buns that want to do well and do other things good too" club >oP -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Fri, December 19, 2008 - 8:28 PMHaha, lifetime member right here. -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Sat, December 20, 2008 - 12:48 PMHey Ladies,
Moria posted the following in another thread about trouble with the straddle sit:
"If you're having trouble sitting in the straddle position, lay with your bum up against a wall and back on the floor. Extend your legs straight up the wall and then allow them to fall all the way open to the side. Read a book, talk on the phone, watch a movie, whatever and just let gravity pull your legs open. It's best to do after a warm bath and maybe a glass of wine :) If the stretch it too intense, puff pillows up next to your outer thighs to provide some resistance."
But, if you have tight hamstrings too, you will still have trouble with your back curving when you bend forward, so if you have both problems you might want to include some hamstring stretches too. -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Wed, January 7, 2009 - 10:30 AMDuring a Multi-level Suhaila wkshop she also introduced the idea of rolling your IT bands. the muscle that runs down the outside of the top of your leg. Miss S said that if your IT bands are tight then they will strangle your glutes. good to know so it that muscle doesn't pull your knee out. I took a roller wkshop just recently with Cera at Shoebox and learned a lot. Hurts like a MoFo though. -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Wed, January 7, 2009 - 10:41 AMI second the roller.
I saw someone use the roller and I thought, "psssh, I can do that, it's easy." Then I tried it and almost cried. "Hurts like a MoFo" hits the nail on the head.
I've been trying to roll every day and I'm starting to notice a slight improvement. I also try to use it on my hamstrings -
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Sat, January 10, 2009 - 9:28 AMThe roller is AwEsOmE!
I can't live without mine. It can stretch you out, roll out your kinks, and you can even work out on it! Totally recommend it.
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Mon, January 12, 2009 - 9:50 AMwhat is this roller? is it that cylindrical deep tissue massage thingy you roll over? -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Thu, January 15, 2009 - 7:34 AMAwesome link! Thanks for the contribution. Suhaila and her chiropractor introduced me to this fun roller thing about 4 years ago and it really made a difference in my hip flexibility. For me the best part is to lay where the muscles insert around the inner and outer hips and hip flexor. Then regular yoga focusing on lung and hamstring stretches will help release your psoas, hip flexors, and hamstrings. These are what's pulling you into a kind of crunch when you are sitting in spread eagle on the floor. Especially if the psoas is too tight it will make that small hump in your lower back. Once these muscles have relaxed then the glutes will have a broader range to move, but you still have to work on glute strength and dexterity. Having a big beautiful butt doesn't insure strong glute work, strangely enough, because most women walk by powering through their legs, so isolating the glutes is like waking up a zombie sometimes. Regular practice is what does it. Lifting half up and half down helps with dexterity and breaks up the monotony of single glute squeezes, and then squeezing them both together as tight as possible with out engaging any of your, um, pelvic floor, builds strength. And the whole gluteus minimus/maximus/medius labeling thing doesn't match the action of squeezing half way and then all the way. So an anatomy chart might confuse things because your minimus is actually your outer/side glutes, what gives hott men that really nice concave flex in their side booties. So it's your good ole gluteus maximus that you want to focus on and when it contracts in the lower areas it's just building strength to finally make it half way and then all the way up to the top of the pant line. It's just 3 different areas of the same muscle that strengthen over time. Lemme know if you have anymore questions about this stuff. Best! -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Thu, January 15, 2009 - 11:00 AMYeah, after looking at the chart you're right about the glute sections... Suhaila and my teacher have described it this way to me though.
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Thu, January 15, 2009 - 11:02 AMOh, I actually reread it again... maybe that's how she described it and I assumed it meant 3 diff. sections.
I'm going back to bed :)
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Fri, January 16, 2009 - 12:36 PMThis is great!!!! Thanks to all you lovely ladies for the advice, it really does help!! -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Sun, January 18, 2009 - 10:55 PMabout squeezing the glutes, should i be imaging like squeezing my 'anus' (sorry for graphic description). i used to think the glutes are the outer parts of the butt and i think i was contracting my hamstring. normally i can only contract if i lock my knees. but if im on a soft bend, i can contract it.
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Mon, January 19, 2009 - 1:18 PMNo, don't squeeze your anus, and, yes, to strengthen you can start by squeezing both cheeks to gain control, then work on isolation. Also you can get on your hands and knees, allow your knees to slide out directly to your sides, ending up in frog pose. Then try alternating glute squeezes. This works really well for people who are tight in their thighs and hamstrings. -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Mon, January 19, 2009 - 7:33 PMThanks Moria. Previously i read that some people describes squeezing the glutes are like imagining you are going to go potty and use the muscle there and try to stop it. another one i've read is by imagining there's like a coin in between your butt and try squeeze so you can hold the coin.
Is there a descriptive way to explain which parts i should be trying to squeeze? sorry for such dumb questions. -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Mon, January 19, 2009 - 8:06 PMI think of it as they're not squeezing in, they're sliding up your back. The movement is lifting off the floor, not in. -
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Mon, January 19, 2009 - 10:49 PMThanks Megan. That helps a lot! I keep thinking of squeezing into the centre of the spine. No wonder I'm going no where. -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Fri, February 13, 2009 - 8:58 PMSo can you girls recommend a website or a place I can get this foam roller thing? I've been looking for it but no luck yet :( -
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Mon, February 16, 2009 - 8:53 AMWhich size is best? I've found atleast 7 different sizes -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Mon, February 16, 2009 - 5:45 PMYou want to get a roller that's around 36"L by 6"W... long enough to lye down on it and fit your head, down to your, um, rear :) And if you plan on "rollin", then be sure you buy a FULL roller. A very good purchase!
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Mon, February 16, 2009 - 9:28 AMTarget usually has them (that's where mine is from) and I believe you can order them from Suhaila's website.
Another option is to use tennis balls, which are a LOT more intense. I usually use those on my bed to diffuse some of the pressure.
I also like to stretch it out like dis:
Sit on the floor with knees bent, feet flat (so your legs are at a roughly 90 degree angle).
Lift one leg and place it across the top of the other, both knees still bent.
Use to top leg to *gently* pull the bottom leg to the side (so if your right leg is on top, pull the left leg over to the right, like you're trying to get your knee to touch the floor).
Take it easy because it can be a pretty intense stretch. I usually like to use the roller, then do some glute and IT stretches.
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Sat, February 21, 2009 - 3:16 AMHey all, i've been researching this thing too for a while now because i have the same problem. The bum up against the wall thing did help me to get a couple more inches wider.. the wine helped to :) But its like ive just hit a brick wall now and cant go any further. I get the curve in the lower spine too and it hurts like hell sometimes :( Has anyone heard of this before?
www.elasticsteel.net/Splits_...-dvd.htm
He has alot of vids on youtube and he really seems to know what he's talking about and as far as i can see guarantees full progression into the complete splits. Its expensive at $49 however, i am seriously contemplating the purchase because i feel the out and out non co-operation of my body is wrecking my head and holding me back!! There are lots and lots of 100% positive reviews for the dvds and they come highly recommended. Any thoughts on this would be great.... :)
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Sat, February 21, 2009 - 3:32 AMAlmost forgot.. I've actually emailed him last night via youtube explaining my, now our, problem to ask if the DVD will help.. ill post his response.. -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Sat, February 21, 2009 - 7:50 PMThanks for posting that link maqs. just the other day I was saying to myself that I wished there was a DVD that helped to work into the splits. Yay. I'm really curious to read his response. Thanks again. :) -
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Sun, February 22, 2009 - 1:58 AMOk here's the response
Mags,
You are probably refering to your Gracilis muscle. It's a part of the adductors group and there are plenty of strengthening and stretching exercises to target that muscle group.
Warm regards,
Paul
After googling this muscle I asked him to clarify if the DVD would help and I got the answer below
There adductors are included in the Split Specific Warm Up, in light stretches, in ELC and in deep stretches sections of the DVD.
So im still thinking ill buy this dvd expense and all. If i could just do the splits my life would be so much better! :)
Mags aka drama queen.
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Fri, February 27, 2009 - 10:26 AMAgh Mags!! I totally sympathyze! I think the tight muscles might come from sitting in an office for long periods of time.. and well we cant help it cuz thats out job!... the splits *sigh* are a high goal for me as well.. whenever I try its weird... this muscle close to my knee which I don't know its name.. hurts! and its like it can't give in anymore!
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Re: Question about your section in the new DVD
Wed, March 4, 2009 - 12:47 AMHey there.. if you go to elasticsteel.com and order a dvd. Get this its called.. everything you need to know about the splits.. couldnt be more perfect. Myself and my dance partner have ordered it already and its on the way yikes! He guarantees if you follow the programme you are guaranteed the splits! The service from the site is absolutely excellent. Very quick transaction and the staff are really helpful and friendly too! Ill keep you posted on the progress!
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