What did you lose?

lost my macbook power supply :O
i believe it was left plugged into a surge protector at smash camp

Sparklers were in my truck bed...I have them.

I'm with ya on the kudos to Bama. I know it was a real hardship, but I'm really thankful that she and WNB were able to come all the way from Reno for the event. Bama, you ROCK!

And another thing: I'm all for people getting to do WHATEVER they want as long as it doesn't interfere with the rights (safety, boundaries) of someone else.

At the Big Burn, people were asked to change their behavior or their camp activities "because children might see it." In all honesty, if you really feel that you must take your child to an event, it is ENTIRELY up to you to be with your child AT ALL TIMES so that you can monitor what your child sees or does. It shouldn't be the responsibility of others to edit their behavior at these types of events. What we do in the default world, hopefully, is to have respect for the rules of the greater part of society. That's why burn events are supposed to be different.

I don't feel that burns are an appropriate place for children, and that's my opinion. The real problem comes in when the event attracts the attention of the local law enforcement because there are children in attendance. So in that way, people who take their children under 18 to a burn event are jeopardizing the rights of the rest of the community.

I'm with ya on the kudos to Bama. I know it was a real hardship, but I'm really thankful that she and WNB were able to come all the way from Reno for the event. Bama, you ROCK!

And another thing: I'm all for people getting to do WHATEVER they want as long as it doesn't interfere with the rights (safety, boundaries) of someone else.

At the Big Burn, people were asked to change their behavior or their camp activities "because children might see it." In all honesty, if you really feel that you must take your child to an event, it is ENTIRELY up to you to be with your child AT ALL TIMES so that you can monitor what your child sees or does. It shouldn't be the responsibility of others to edit their behavior at these types of events. What we do in the default world, hopefully, is to have respect for the rules of the greater part of society. That's why burn events are supposed to be different.

I don't feel that burn events are an appropriate place for children, and that's my opinion. The real problem comes in when the event attracts the attention of the local law enforcement because there are children in attendance. So in that way, people who take their children under 18 to a burn event are jeopardizing the rights of the rest of the community.

I have an Amen Sisters on that!
I thought what was said to Bama was fucked up as well, especially since she and WNB are such contributers and participators in our area despite living else where. Home is where the heart is after all.
And as far as the kid thing goes, I have never agreed with kids at these types of events. I ended up watching said kid for a while the night of the burn because no parent was around. There were too many dangerous & inappropriate activities, plus too many fucked up people for it to have been ok to let a kid run around the main field burn night , unlit and unsupervised.
I believe kiddie burns have been organized in the past (like mini rudkus) and I think that those are the only events that kids should be allowed at. I have much respect for you Button, as a mother and as a person. Your daughter is one of the most well adjusted and well behaved children I have ever met. Great job mamacita!

yep---i admit..i did ask for the noise to be taken a little further away from the ranger tent at 5am b/c mariposa had just asked to put the baby to sleep and she did it. i am sorry if i rained on anyones parade but i had just traveled over 800 miles to come to this event and i had yet at 5 am on sunday morning to party and hang with peeps. i had stayed for the most part at family camp not bothering other ppl, not bringing myself or the baby to the pagent event though i was suppose to enter. b/c i did not want to freak ppl out who were on drugs.

did anyone bitch at JUJU when she walked up to the banging drums and screamed at him to shut the fuck up or she would stick that drum up his ass?????? why isn't she being judged on that?


i did not ask for the noise to stop, i just asked if the cow bells and drum to be please taken away a little further away from the ranger tent so i could continue to enjoy myself a little longer..b/c i knew the baby would be waking up soon anyway. i even encouraged bama to come with me to find a party at 5 am..mind you i had just woken up and was ready to enjoy the last 8 hours of my burn with her, but she got pissed at me, i guess. now i know why she was acting so wierd over the phone to me.



i tried to ranger with a baby ...silly me for trying to volunteer while bringing a baby..but i recruited people and those were bama's words.
i was also told i did not have to ranger..but i still hung out in the tent and manned the radio for you buttons, when you needed me. i tried!


you are lucky that you have a baby sitter to take your child and that you may never have to consider giving up burning life for your child.
so where do we parents who have no one to watch our baby do? when she becomes of age ?????????
give it all up...or do we raise our children to be tolerant and keep a close on them while at an event???


this is very upsetting to me exspecially since you were so excited to see us and you even brought out things to the event for us...for the baby.

WTF???

i have not missed a myschevia to date either. FUCK, I HELPED PLAN THIS EVENT FROM THE BEGINNING !!!! I TOOK MY KID TO WORK WEEKENDS AT THE BEGINNING!!! I WORKED THOSE WEEKENDS TWO YEARS AGO!




and it was (trust me) way harder for me to travel to TX with two kids to get to this event
and now i am being judged

wow!

at least at BM kids are accepted even encouraged. maybe it's my fault for procreating again years after becoming a burner, but i have a lot more to offer a community i just couldn't do as much this year, sorry!
sorry i didn't fullfill my ranger duites.
i will do better next time if i ever come again.
this is why we are creating our own burn in STL......


geez....i have never felt so alienated amoungst family in my life.

i also heard from someone at myschevia " fuck.,all these ppl are ruining my burn" well....guess what ...you are responsible for your own experience and so was mine.....i did not party....i did not get to hang with many for too long..... i just went and enjoyed the moments as they came....even if that meant taking my baby so be it. i had a great time!
and i tried so hard not to burden others.

thank you for what you did do, buttons.
i really appreciate it.
but now i think it is time for me to ponder this and shed a tear or two and wonder if ppl really do get it.

No Button I agree with you 100%. Myschevia needs Bama and Bama belongs there. I dont know what the context was of "maybe you should find other regional" but if it was in a "you don't belong at the event or don't belong as Miss Myschevia context since you moved (or for any other reason)" they can go fuck themselves.

Othe note, I have a kid. I have told people when he's been around on a work weekend...you are not responsible for my child or changing your behavior for him. What he sees and does is MY responsibility. I'm getting really fed up (especially after the issue at BRC) of everyone thinking that they can bring their kids and expect to then control other peoples behavior at a burn when the person isn't doing anything wrong. If the kid can't sleep DONT BRING HIM/HER. SEVERAL of us are parents and don't bring our kids for our own reasons. I don't bring my son for my reasons to the actual burn and I'm not changing my behavior for anyone if I'm not hurting anyone and following the guidelines of the burn. I've seen things make me uncomfortable......so what....I either look away or adapt and learn something new that end up liking.

Frigging everyone trying to tell people how to act. Quiet??? At a Burn??? So long as we are not making so much noise that we're going to have to deal with law enforcement I think that request to turn it down for kids to sleep is f'ing ridiculous.

Willow

its at my place. Are u going to see tigger soon? Maybe at marshalls. Or next time ur at lee harveys let me know