A Whole New World

topic posted Sat, May 24, 2008 - 5:39 PM by  Paul
Hello all.
I am just stepping into the world of BDSM. My and my SO are interested most in D/s play. She is the sub and I am the DOm. I have done a bit of research online, but I am still not sure if I am finding what I am looking for as I tend to miss fine print in front of my eyes. I am wanting to make sure that I am not going to put her in pain, and I understand that only she can tell me what is too much. We are looking for this to go further. I have Dom tendencies, but I am also a very caring person. I am also somewhat of a perfectionist. No I know that I am not going to get it right the first time. But I want to make sure that we both have a good time.

Whit that being said. I am simply looking for good sound advice on what can be too much to handle at first and what is a good way for two people to start off in this type of play.
Any information is welcome.

Thanks
.
posted by:
Paul
Oklahoma City
  • Re: A Whole New World

    Sat, May 24, 2008 - 5:54 PM
    Lots of books are out there. The Loving Dominant by John Warren would be perfect for you. Also, Screw the Roses, Send Me the Thorns would be a great book. Try those. I'm sure others will have their favorites. Sensual Magic by Pat Califia is another one I love.

    Also, look for BDSM groups in your local city.

    Domina
    • Re: A Whole New World

      Sun, May 25, 2008 - 3:18 PM
      Paul, just make sure you continually communicate w/ your sub. Each of you could always fill out a checklist - to determine what each of your limits maybe. Have fun w/ it!!!!
  • Re: A Whole New World

    Sun, May 25, 2008 - 3:42 PM
    bummer that this thread has taken a turn in another direction. i've seen some great discussions started with an initial thread that may or may not have been from a legitimate person seeking actual information to put into RL use. the information presented was interesting and thought provoling and the discussions lively. this question, whether asked by a troll or a 'real' person still bears discussion IMO. it's much different than the ones that come on these tribes with the "make me your slave" "i'm looking for a Dominatrix" "anyone wanna fuck?" "how does anal sex feel?" posts.
  • Re: A Whole New World

    Sun, May 25, 2008 - 4:34 PM
    <eyes the "0" friends, no picture, incomplete profile from Oklahoma City with great skepticism> but that's not new with me.
    • Re: A Whole New World

      Sun, May 25, 2008 - 6:06 PM
      I may just be a Tribe Snob by now, but that gets my anntenna up as well.
      I mean, I don't have a digital camera, but I always pull stuff whenever I can. Even If I have to scan things in after hours at work :)
      And with a complete profile and a few posts to tribes, it takes about 15 min to find a friend.
    • Re: A Whole New World

      Sun, May 25, 2008 - 6:07 PM
      I imagine it's kinda hard to have as many friends as you do, when he only joined yesterday.

      But who am *I* to judge.
      • Re: A Whole New World

        Sun, May 25, 2008 - 6:36 PM
        I know, we were all new to Tribe once............
        • Re: A Whole New World

          Sun, May 25, 2008 - 9:49 PM
          I've been on Tribe for a few years now and have only 33 friends only because I'm selective and not a "friends whore" but the first day I joined by the end of the day I had a complete profile and several friends added. Just saying. To each his own. It's just a red flag for some on Tribe (the empty profiles).
          • Re: A Whole New World

            Sun, May 25, 2008 - 10:43 PM
            And after all we have said he still has no friends..............

            And that is exactly my point Jaded..............
            • Re: A Whole New World

              Mon, May 26, 2008 - 12:34 AM
              Nor has he bothered to reply or thank anyone who has truly suggested helpful hints.
              • Re: A Whole New World

                Mon, May 26, 2008 - 1:25 AM
                Hey, the dude has been on tribe for a very short time and may not have more than a few minutes to check in every once in a while. He didn't force anyone to say anything and he hasn't exactly asked a trollish question. So what he has no tribe friends, maybe he's like me and doesn't friend people he doesn't know in person and he doesn't know anyone in Oklahoma who is on tribe. I had a blank grey head for months and months when I first started on tribe. It was only when a friend taught me how to attach an image to my profile that I had anything else. Why start with all the suspicious crap right away?
                • Re: A Whole New World

                  Mon, May 26, 2008 - 1:29 PM
                  I have a grey head, and to be honest, I have a grey head, so my 'profile pic' isn't that innacurate.

                  I also don't friend every person who asked me. Maybe he is being cautious. I tell new folk all the time not to friend everyone who asks. Trolls abound and they especially love the taste of newbies.
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                    Re: A Whole New World

                    Mon, May 26, 2008 - 5:09 PM
                    I obviously don't friend everyone who asks and I also don't friend everyone I know. I also obviously don't have MY pic easily accessed on my profile BUT it is a complete profile for what it's worth. It just makes me a bit suspicious which is my general nature as anyone who knows me can vouch. I've seen quite a few "new" profiles pop up on Tribe lately with the same specs not from this area posting such a question never to respond again. I don't think it's a coincidence nor do I think it's someone with little time to periodically check on their postings. Again, I have a suspicious nature.
    • Re: A Whole New World

      Sat, May 31, 2008 - 11:56 PM
      I don't find people with no photos or friends on Tribe to be any more suspicious than anyone else, especially not in this tribe. As someone else has pointed out, we were all new once - and that's both to Tribe and to kink.

      As a tribe specifically for newbies, and which does not restrict entry, it is only natural that we will attract people who have just signed up for Tribe and may not yet know anyone, online or off, in the kink community. The whole point of this tribe is to be a place where even the newest of
      the new can feel comfortable to dip their toes in the water, and what's more, our old mailing lists never provided any opportunity to post pictures *or* list friends, and we all did just fine in those days. Newbies are often much more reticent about having pictures out there than the rest of us may be, too, and that's hardly something I at least can find fault with. If anything, I find it to be an entirely reasonable and prudent thing to do.

      All told, it would really be kind of silly to consider folks who don't have a lot of the accoutrements like Tribe friends and photos that the rest of us now take for granted to be any more or less suspicious just because of that.
  • Re: A Whole New World

    Mon, May 26, 2008 - 6:28 PM
    Poor guy. I can see why he hasn't dared to comment again. He came here as a newbie, asking legitimate questions, and the majority of responses in the thread must end up feeling like baseball bat blows to the middle. Considering his post was probably his first on entering tribe, I hope he hasn't been traumatized so much in making the mistake of expecting to be treated well, that he'll abandon tribe as a precious resource. It's an unfortunate welcome we've given him...
    • Re: A Whole New World

      Mon, May 26, 2008 - 6:34 PM
      You're right Grizzly.

      Paul, if you're still out there please don't be shy about posting again, just to let us know you are out there!

      Ya gotta understand that this online world opens us up and can make us a bit cynical. Not really personal thing.......
      • Re: A Whole New World

        Mon, May 26, 2008 - 6:44 PM
        People can become so jaded after some time in the scene.
        • Re: A Whole New World

          Mon, May 26, 2008 - 7:55 PM
          Absolutely, Petaluman...which is why I have the name...I've been burned badly by the internet by not being cautious and suspicious. Once upon a time I was very naive when meeting people over the internet. I actually thought they were who they portrayed themselves to be online. Little did I know then. I still am very doubtful that the reason he hasn't answered is because of doubt tossed his way over his profile. I do so wish him to prove me wrong. I will admit to being wrong when he does....IF he does.
          • Re: A Whole New World

            Mon, May 26, 2008 - 8:05 PM
            Living in the past should not be worn like a badge of honor. The present is a much more satisfying place to be. BUT we all have the choice of how to live. While I may not relish your outlook on life I most certainly respect your right to view life and people as you do.

            I'm just sayin'
    • Re: A Whole New World

      Sun, June 1, 2008 - 12:09 AM
      Thanks for your post, Grizzly.

      Paul, please disregard these skeptics. Theirs is not the majority opinion around here with respect to profiles - *or* the official one in this tribe.

      You are perfectly welcome to have whatever you want on your profile, and I hope you will visit here often and find this tribe to be a helpful source of information.

      Jaded, we all know very well by now how you feel about these things, and I would appreciate it if you would tone it down on this tribe. It is just not necessary to pipe up with these same skeptical remarks every time anyone posts anything who doesn't have a profile filled out the way you think they ought to, and it detracts from the atmosphere I am trying to create here.

      This isn't a trolling post, or spam, and there's no reason whatsoever to believe that Paul is insincere or deserving of this kind of ridicule. There's also no law that says that people have to come back just because they've asked a question.

      It would also be much more constructive to simply suggest to newcomers that they fill out their profiles more completely, explaining the benefits of doing so. But the reality is there are also good reasons *not* to do so as well. A discussion about those differences of opinion would be much more useful to newbies than this kind of unmitigated suspicion.



      • Re: A Whole New World

        Sun, June 1, 2008 - 12:28 AM
        I'm glad we have such a kind person watching over the tribe, klg...........

        That said, it appears to be etiquette to at least respond to posts on a question you have asked..............
        I am not judging, that's just what I see.

        As you can see from my earlier posts, I've tried to apologize and make Paul feel welcome........

        All he need do is post again and this whole silliness would be settled..............
        • Re: A Whole New World

          Sun, June 1, 2008 - 7:57 AM
          'All he need do is post again"

          No, he doesn't NEED to do anything. That was the whole point of what Grizzly and KLG were saying.

          He has no responsibility for your feelings. You are the only person who is responsible for how you feel. Trying to get the whole world to conform to your idea of proper behavior is a futile exercise and will not increase your happiness. If you are upset by what other people do or don't do, work on changing how you feel about it.
          • Re: A Whole New World

            Sun, June 1, 2008 - 10:21 AM
            I don't think MY feelings have anything to do with this. I was not "upset" about anyone's actions, nor was I trying to get anyone to conform to a model of behavior. I was simply suggesting a course of action for the new guy. Most people on Tribe respond after they ask a question, simply to keep a thread going. I am aware that he has no responsibility to do anything here.
            Geez this thread got of course! First we attacked the new guy and now I'm being attacked for apologizing to him. WTF?
            • Re: A Whole New World

              Sun, June 1, 2008 - 11:25 AM
              **********All he need do is post again and this whole silliness would be settled.............. *****

              No, Dear, it was not for apologizing. It was for the above remark. It came across to me as an attempted to justify the situation. If I was Paul, I would be offended by the above statement. Being accused of predatory behavior is not a silly matter.

              It is true that most people would respond after they asked a question IF the answers they received were warm, welcoming and helpful. If I was a newbie, I would have been out of here like the proverbial bat out of hell from that roasting.
              • Re: A Whole New World

                Sun, June 1, 2008 - 2:10 PM
                I wasn't trying to justify the situation.
                And there are some welcoming messages after his post.
                Frankly, I don't see anyone's post accusing him of predatory behavior, unless they were deleted.

                I'm really sorry if my words have caused any misunderstanding.
              • Re: A Whole New World

                Wed, June 11, 2008 - 12:34 AM
                Bats out of hell aside, sometimes people sign up on a website like Tribe, or even a group like this one - and then actually forget they exist, or that they posted anything. The fact that someone has not returned and responded to answers to something they post simply doesn't necessarily mean a thing. Oddly enough, some people actually have lives enough that they don't remember this place even exists ;->

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